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Top 10: Reasons PG-13 Horror Sucks #2

Nov. 16, 2007
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PG-13. A community that can watch limbs cut off, innards pulled out and monster rape without blinking an eye still gets a collective chill when that hated rating is mentioned. The wailing and gnashing of teeth that can ensue often becomes the stuff of legends and biblical stories.

IT'S GONNA BE PG-13?! ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME?! JUST KILL ME NOW!

In a quiet moment I think we can all admit that the world has never come close to ending because of a PG-13 rating. That said, there are also a lot of uppity pricks out there who like to chirp about why the genre community is stupid for caring about a rating. We'll give those naysayers the benefit of the doubt and just call them woefully uninformed.

The reason we care is simple - PG-13 horror movies blow ropey goat chunks. Let's get into why. Then Spit Bullets 'cause I know ya'll have some opinions on this shite!

READ PART 1 OF THIS LIST HERE

WARNING - COMMON SENSE AHEAD!

5. Weak Gore


Half the fun of a lot of genre pics are the creative deaths. It may not be high art, but it can be a helluva good time. In flicks where the point is more strictly to terrify than to entertain, well used gore can really drive the fear and discomfort home. There have certainly been horror movies with little or no gore that were effective, but PG-13 horror movies try to be bloodless slashers and goreless ghost stories. Lame and ill-conceived on every level.

4. No Swearing


If I'm being chased down by whatever stalker, monster, supernatural terror that happens to be gunning for me, my language is going to be along the lines of "F*ck this f*cking shite, oh my f*cking God I'm going to f*cking die!" It's certainly not going to be "Oh gosh, shoot. This darn situation is a bummer. Fiddlesticks!" Some times you gotta let the colorful lingo fly. Almost every horror movie revolves around one of those times.

3. Stifles Creativity


If you're hiring someone to write for you, do you want their best, most amazing ideas, or just something that's marginally good enough to get produced. The clear answer based on PG-13 projects is the latter. Telling someone from the outset that you want a horror script with no blood, no significant cursing and no nudity or interesting sex is the same as telling them you want to make a crappy film. Just like making a porno without any sex scenes, no matter how good the rest of it may be, you're still missing crucial elements.

2. Morally Suspect


Can you imagine the uproar if someone suddenly started making sanitized pornos so that teens could go see them unaccompanied? So why is no one bothered by these thinly veiled "adult" movies that are catering to teens. Sure they suck, but that doesn't change the fact that the situations, fear, and violence that any genre pic tries to exploit is inherently adult subject matter. There are plenty of kids across a wide range of ages who would do fine seeing whatever today's filmmakers can come up with, but it doesn't mean a completely unrestricted rating is responsible. BTW, what is wrong with our culture that we're more comfortable with kids seeing gunshot wounds and severed limbs than naked bodies?

1. You Cannot Make A Great PG-13 Horror Movie


Do you think Julia Roberts had a chance to land Richard Gere in PRETTY WOMAN if she was a gold digger trying to get him? Hell no, she had to stumble into it. Debatable whether that could ever happen in real life, but for now we'll say it's possible, if not likely. In the same fashion you could certainly make a horror film, and then find that the tone and subject matter naturally lend themselves to a rating less than R and end up with a great PG-13 genre pic. But you can't do it on purpose. Because if you set out to make a PG-13 horror movie your goal is not to make a horror movie, it's to make a PG-13 movie. Those goals do not support each other. There have been a few good PG-13 horror movies, but there have been no great, destined to be classic PG-13 horror movies. And there never will be. Maybe it's just me, but I've never understood working on something, that from the beginning, you know has no chance of being great.

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Garthy
4:17PM on 11/19/2007
HAH. Stifles creativity.

Seems you don't understand what CREATIVITY is. Is it creative to have someone get stabbed and have blood spurt across the room? TRUE creativity is challenged by a PG-13 movie...
HAH. Stifles creativity.

Seems you don't understand what CREATIVITY is. Is it creative to have someone get stabbed and have blood spurt across the room? TRUE creativity is challenged by a PG-13 movie. TRULY creative people can make a good movie whether it's R, PG-13, G or NC-17.

It's not hard to be creative when you have no limitations at all. It is a true sign of creativity to be able to make something that is good even if you have constraints.

Mr Withers, you have truly shown how sad and pathetic this list is by trying to suggest this...
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Phatmaster
10:22PM on 11/16/2007
Bloodless slashers and goreless ghost stories are lame and ill-conceived on every level?

Have you not seen Halloween?

Bloodless slashers and goreless ghost stories are lame and ill-conceived on every level?

Have you not seen Halloween?

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foxgate2000
9:10PM on 11/16/2007
Isn't the morally suspect girl Jenna Jameson?

A horror film CAN be great and a classic even with a PG-13 rating if it was made, subjected to the fascists at the MPAA and received a PG-13 rating. Howeve...
Isn't the morally suspect girl Jenna Jameson?

A horror film CAN be great and a classic even with a PG-13 rating if it was made, subjected to the fascists at the MPAA and received a PG-13 rating. However, 9 out of 10 times if it's made as an R movie and the studio forces the director to cut it down to PG-13, well, then it usually sucks and censorship comes into play. It doesn't come into play if it's just a movie that happens to get a PG-13 rating on it's own.
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Altar
8:44PM on 11/16/2007
I demand the source of the morally suspect girl.
There is nothing wrong with PG-13 as long as its intelligent. Thats all that matters. Gore and nudity don't make a good horror movie. Horror does.
I demand the source of the morally suspect girl.
There is nothing wrong with PG-13 as long as its intelligent. Thats all that matters. Gore and nudity don't make a good horror movie. Horror does.
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Weak gore?
wallebe10
3:42PM on 11/16/2007
Have you not seen Halloween? One of the best horror movies of all time and it had barely any gore? Jesus...
Have you not seen Halloween? One of the best horror movies of all time and it had barely any gore? Jesus...
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Going to have to disagree...
PhantomOfTheParadise
2:14PM on 11/16/2007
...on #3. It takes true creativity to make an effective film with limits. It's easy to make a film and go too far and make a decently entertaining film. It's difficult to do the same with imposed limits. Now for the m...
...on #3. It takes true creativity to make an effective film with limits. It's easy to make a film and go too far and make a decently entertaining film. It's difficult to do the same with imposed limits. Now for the most part, a lot of PG horror has been mediocre, but there have been some great films with PG/PG-13 ratings that have been great BECAUSE they avoided the excesses of an R rating.
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AGREED!
Ammon
12:07PM on 11/16/2007
PG-13 is the one great atrocity to the horror genre. While there are diamonds in the rough (like the examples given below), for THE MOST PART when a horror flick is PG-13 (and made to be PG-13 from the time it's gree...
PG-13 is the one great atrocity to the horror genre. While there are diamonds in the rough (like the examples given below), for THE MOST PART when a horror flick is PG-13 (and made to be PG-13 from the time it's greenlit), it blows ass! For every one example of it working, I can give you six where it doesn't.

Good list! What it all comes down to is saying F*CK CENSORSHIP! I could aslo say the same thing about there being no truly great PG-13 ACTION MOVIES, but that's an entirely different discussion (and list) all together.
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Yog-Sothoth
11:11AM on 11/16/2007
As Garthy pointed out earlier, there is a world of difference between a PG-13 film and an R-rated film that was neutered down to make a buck. Seriously, I think you're confusing exploitation for real horror. And to ...
As Garthy pointed out earlier, there is a world of difference between a PG-13 film and an R-rated film that was neutered down to make a buck. Seriously, I think you're confusing exploitation for real horror. And to say that you can't make a good PG-13 rated horror film is to negate many of the classics that have come out before the ratings system came into existence.

What you need to keep in mind is that there are just as many shitty R-rated horror films as there are PG-13-rated ones (can you say 'Valentine'? Good, I knew that you could. Now, how about 'Turistas'?).

Finally...NO SWEARING? Jesus Christ on a sybian, man! The original 'Grudge' from Japan frightened me to the point where I was hiding under the covers (and I was 30 at the time) and I don't recall anyone even saying "Dammit" in it. For that matter, there was very little gore and no nudity for that matter.

Grow up, man.
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JAWS
10:06AM on 11/16/2007
How about great PG horror? JAWS and Poltergeist. Two big time classics there. How about the G rated The Haunting.

I thought The Ring and the Sixth Sense were pretty good PG-13 Horror.

How about great PG horror? JAWS and Poltergeist. Two big time classics there. How about the G rated The Haunting.

I thought The Ring and the Sixth Sense were pretty good PG-13 Horror.


PS the girl in the Morally Suspect photo is mega-hot
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GravitaZ
8:35AM on 11/16/2007
The Ring, The Others, What Lies Beneath, 1408, The first Grudge(debateable)
The Ring, The Others, What Lies Beneath, 1408, The first Grudge(debateable)
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You sound jaded
MallratsJaySB
3:31AM on 11/16/2007
I agree with some things you listed like weak gore because yes, PG-13 horror movies that rely on slashing and violence need to show it to be effective. However, you are way off on you cannot make a great PG-13 horror ...
I agree with some things you listed like weak gore because yes, PG-13 horror movies that rely on slashing and violence need to show it to be effective. However, you are way off on you cannot make a great PG-13 horror movie. How about 1408? That is easily one of my favorite genre films because it was horrific, but not in the usual way. It showed that no matter what horror a person faces, nothing can match the loss of a child. It had an excellent ambiance and Cusack put on a terrific one man show performance. It doesn't have to have nudity, excessive swearing, graphic violence, or anything else you mentioned to be an excellent horror movie. And I think that movie set out to be PG-13, which contradicts what you are saying.

I'm completely onboard with you when you say that most PG-13 horror movies suck, but to say that there have been no great ones is foolish. And complaints like no nudity are trivial and make it seem like you're a child desperate to see some boobs.
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