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(Part 1/2: click
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 Robert
Englund has been on the scene since the 70s. He's been in films like Tobe Hooper's "Eaten Alive", "Dead and Buried", "Galaxy
of Terror", "The V series", "Wishmaster", "Urban Legend" and way
more. But it's his incarnation of dream killer Freddy "the
freakin'
man" Krueger, originating in Wes Craven's genre classic "Nightmare
on Elm Street" that immortalized him as a horror icon. Let's face
it, the Big K is now amongst the ranks of all the horror greats: we
have Dracula, Frankenstein and yes...we have Freddy! That's quite an
accomplishment and Robert deserves all of his success. He has always
been really good to his fans throughout the years, while
being a fervent horror fan himself. Now, as we all know, the long
awaited "Freddy vs Jason" will soon
be upon us. The film is done shooting and
has now entered post-production. PART 1 of this interview concentrates on
"Freddy
vs
Jason" while PART 2 will be about Robert's other upcoming
projects
and more! Freddy vs Arrow is on! Here's what this great man had to
say.
ROBERT: (in a Freddy voice that freaked me out):
Hello? ARROW:
Hello Mr. Englund, how are you?
ROBERT:
(in a Freddy voice that freaked me out):
Fine. ARROW:
First, I'd like to thank you for giving me years and years of
nightmares as a child.
ROBERT:
(still in Freddy voice):
Well, it's a dirty job and somebody had to do it. What can I tell ya!
ROBERT'S FAV HORROR MOVIES

ARROW: (laugh) I'll start off by asking you
what your favorite horror movie is?
ROBERT: I actually have a couple-- I sort of like to do old school/new school, you know?
ARROW: Yeah.
ROBERT: I'd have to say right now the ones that are in memory the
most are "The Innocents" with Deborah Kerr, a black and white film,
sort of what I would call old school. More recently I really liked
"Devil's
Backbone".
ARROW: Yeah, great movie!
ROBERT: Those right now are my favorites and both of them are what I
like to call at this stage in my life: the classy end of horror.
Sort of like "Rosemary's Baby"
and stuff like that. But I don't want my fans to
think that I don't like them down and dirty too-- I also recently saw a
great little English film called "Dog Soldiers"
that I really liked and going back to the early eighties, I loved
John Carpenter's remake of "The Thing" with Kurt Russell, I haven't
seen it in a while but it's a movie that I hold very dear. I also
loved Brian De Palma's "Sisters" back in
the 70's. The film had a great use of split screen, blended comedy,
horror, thriller and had some great nightmare concepts. Have you
seen De Palma's new movie?
ARROW: Yeah, I have actually...Femme Fatale.
ROBERT: Did you like it?
ARROW: Yeah, I did. It's Brian De Palma going back to
his old way; "Body Double" kind of vibe.
ROBERT: I like that stuff, my friend Greg Henry is in that.
ARROW: Oh yeah! Have you seen the film yourself?
ROBERT: I haven't seen it, I literally wrapped "Freddy vs Jason" on
the last week of November and they were still shooting when I left.
I missed the cast party and all because I had to fly down to Laguna
Beach where I live. Once there, I threw the wife and the dog in the
car and drove all the way back to the California coast because I had
to do Thanksgiving with my wife's family. I just drove back 2 days
ago and my face is still swollen around the eyes.
ARROW: You relaxing now?
RE: Yeah, I'm just taking it
easy:
sweeping up the leaves, getting ready for the holidays to hit.
FREDDY VS JASON: DIRECTORS AND SCRIPTS

ARROW: Well, let's hop onto what everybody is
mucho looking forward to, me included, which is "Freddy vs
Jason".
ROBERT: Sure.
ARROW: What was it about this specific screenplay that made
it be "the one", as opposed to all of the other scripts that strolled
through over the years?
ROBERT: I think it wasn't just the
scripts delaying the production...they also went through a bunch of
directors. I have been set to do this movie since 2000, that was the
goal. Sort of like Freddy 2000 you know?
ARROW: Yeah.
ROBERT: So the first director was Rob
Bottin the genius effects guy--
ARROW: Yup, The Thing...
ROBERT: They had problems with the
budget with Rob, so then I think they brought on Guillermo del Toro...but he went on to
"Blade 2". They were tweaking the script all this
time too. I actually went to Europe once and sat across one of the
producers of "King of the Hill", the animated show, and he had also
done a draft for the film! I thought that was great! So after
Michael De Luca left New Line, there were new people that
had to be agreeable on the script and maybe there were changes in
attitude as to what the script should have.
I always felt there had
to be a great "Jason nightmare" or the movie wouldn't work and how
Jason and Freddy would get together was always a problem for me. As
time went by, we needed to re-integrate the back stories on both
monsters in the script. Now all those things are accomplished
amazingly and amazingly fast, I think. You're going to have to
surrender a little bit to the contrivance of how Freddy and Jason
get together. Freddy literally needs Jason.
HYPNOCIL
DRUG, FREDDY DOWN AND OUT &
THE LOOK OF THE FILM

ROBERT: There's also a subplot about "Hypnocil" in the film which is a
drug. The script kind of makes a statement about today's drug
culture: Prozac, Viagra and everything. So the parents of Springwood
have developed a drug to prevent them from dreaming. So by
preventing people from dreaming, Freddy can't get to them and people
have now forgotten Freddy, the fear, the legend, the myth. The
portal in which Freddy can enter has sort of been sealed shut, because
people don't dream anymore. But there's also side effects with this
drug, this pill, this hypnocil...as in hynotioc and this is a
subplot in the film.
ARROW: Actually, wasn't "Hypnocil" the drug that Nancy
took in "Dream Warriors" to not dream?
ROBERT: Yeah, they brought it back.
The adults are manufacturing it now and the lead girl Lori, played by
Monica Keena, her father is a pharmaceutical guy. So Freddy is sort of impotent now and
he can't reach his revenge on the siblings and the survivors of the
vigilante parents that burned him alive, so he needs someone to
instill fear, so he uses Jason since Jason operates in the real
world. Jason becomes Freddy's sort of "Frankenstein monster" and
Freddy eventually loses
his control over him as Jason begins poaching on Freddy's victims.
And there's
also all sorts of nasty stuff in the film, there's a nasty
back-story on Freddy, a
nasty back-story on Lori's family and
a nasty back-story on Jason...and
Freddy gets inside Jason's nightmares.
ARROW: Wow, I'm now officially anxious to see
this.
ROBERT: It's great. This is not
anything new, the critics are saying this is another way to exploit
the franchise and all, but it really goes back to "Batman Vs
Superman", "Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein" or the
"Wolfman meets Dracula"
and all that. This is like an old tried and true, wonderful, fun
Hollywood popcorn concept and it isn't anything new. Because of
Ronnie Yu, the director who did "Bride of Chucky", and more recently
Samuel Jackson's film "Formula 51", I look at this film as a great,
state of the art-- almost like a coffee table comic book, just by the
way it looks.
Fred Murphy who was the DP on "The
Mothman Prophecies" and "October Sky" was the DP on the film and between he and Ronnie, they
sort of came up with this beautiful, and yet twisted, look to the
film. It's like some gorgeous, twisted, violent Dutch comic book you
know-- Asian, Cyber Japanese Cyber Punk, illustrated comic book with
Scorsese camera angles, Orson Wells camera angles and film noir
style...it's REALLY interesting! There's also lots of different colors
plays, kind of like Paul Schrader's style. It's just really a great
classy, violent popcorn movie. I've been calling it a gourmet
popcorn that's spelled...G-O-R-E (in a scary ass
Freddy voice that made me jump).
ARROW: (laughs) It sounds like a
freakin' visual
treat!
ROBERT: It is, and I think that the
audience just has to surrender itself to the comic book mentality
of it. I don't mean like comic "funny", I mean like the graphic style.
Once the movie starts, there's just a great rhythm to it...it's just
cool sequence after cool sequence.
JASON GOES
RAVING IN CORN

ROBERT: My favorite scene in the
movie is a sequence I'm not even in. It's a sequence of Jason at a
rave in a cornfield in middle America.
ARROW: OH YEAH! (I got excited there...big time!)
ROBERT: The scene is just phenomenal!
When you read it, it has these great rhythms to it and when you see
it visually: little rave nerd boys with day glow clothes being piped
and speared by Jason and flung across rows and rows of corn glowing
like meteors or comets through the night.
ARROW: Wow!
ROBERT: It's cool
stuff...really cool
stuff. ARROW:
That's like a crowd pleasing Jason scene for the fans.
ROBERT: It's a great Jason scene with
Freddy getting in at the end of it. It's just structurally such a
wonderful relentless, Jason the mindless shark feeding at a rave
scene. It's just the perfect thing. The rhythms, the geometry of the
corn field. It's really going to be a famous sequence, I think.
DOES FREDDY GETS HIS DAY? BABY JASON?
FREDDY AND JASON SELLING OUT OR NOT?
TO GORE OR NOT TO GORE?

ARROW: Does Freddy get his own famous, crowd-pleasing sequence?
ROBERT: Freddy has a couple of great
sequences in the film, but he's kind of like the puppet master in
this for a while. What's great about Freddy in this is when he gets
to comment and manipulate the back stories and the fears of the
characters-- especially with Jason. I'll just give you a hint: Freddy
meets baby Jason. Ok...it's great, it's just really sick stuff.
ARROW: I wanted to address this. Being on the
Net
a lot and hearing all the feedback about "Freddy Vs
Jason", I picked
up that the younger teens, the newer audience are really, really
looking forward to the film...while some of the long time, more
hardcore fans are a little afraid that maybe Freddy and Jason are
being watered down or "mainstreamed" for today's target audience.
ROBERT: All I can tell you is this:
Remember what I told ya before? Gourmet popcorn?
ARROW: Yeah.
ROBERT: There's more violence, Freddy
is less funny and more violent...
ARROW: Nice! (fanboy body rush happened here)
ROBERT: Freddy is a little older
here, Freddy is not uber-Freddy like he was in "Wes Craven's New
Nightmare", he's not a jokester either. He's a little slower, he gets
yanked in reality, gets an ass kicking. Freddy is also a little more
afraid and his powers are a little diminished. But he has an agenda
and there's more violence and more twisted shit in this film than in
the last 4 Freddy movies.
ARROW: Well, that's very good news! Would you say
that the
film is more axed towards the fantastic, the gore or a little bit of
both?
ROBERT: I think
it's a meld of
both. The film is really stylish but it's also really violent. It's
got lots of effects and lots and lots of good gore. Sometimes it
gets a little "Monty Python" gore, but that's intentional
because it's dream world shit. So you get both values out of it.
KANE HODDER, JASON'S MOTHER AND
THE DOGS OF HORROR

ARROW: Now I want to address this.
Lots of fans,
me included, are pissed that Kane Hodder is not Jason and...
ROBERT: Let me tell you what I know
about this.
ARROW: Shoot.
ROBERT: It was never meant as
an insult to Kane except for the reality that Kane is not in it,
which you can perceive, as an insult because Kane was certainly
responsible for the popularity of Jason in the last 10 years.
Director Ronny Yu, who has lots of strong stuff out there, I mean we
loved "Bride of Chucky"...well, Ronny had this image of
Jason. Now I'm
not sure if it derived from a Friday the 13th movie as much as from
an illustration, a comic book what-not, but he always presumed that
Jason was gigantically big and because it's "Freddy Vs Jason", he always
thought that in this comic book style that he was going to exploit, Jason would be larger than life, almost basketball player-like. He's
just absolutely huge in this movie!
(Arrow Note: Ken Kirzinger, who plays Jason in FVJ, is 6"5 and
Kane Hodder is 6"3...
they should've given Kane elevator shoes for
those 2 inches. COME ON!)
I always serve the writer first because
I'm English trained, even though I'm American. I don't protect my own
ass, I protect the writer's ass first.
That's where it all starts: writer
knows best and the writer is my first god, then I serve the
director, then I serve myself. Actually Jason's
mother has this piece of dialogue
I've been using as an image. I always get inspiration from whatever
characters say about my character. So I use this piece of Jason's
mother's dialogue where she calls him a "big stupid dog". I've been
thinking of Jason as a huge stupid dog and Freddy as just like a
little yap-yap junkyard dog.
ARROW: (laughs)
That's hilarious.
ROBERT: That's the imagery I used for
the whole movie. And there's a little bit of sympathy for Jason in
the movie even though he's a relentless killer, because his
back-story is more sympathetic. So I played into that, I made Freddy
a real asshole in this movie, even more so than usual. He's that
little yappy dog that you want to see get his and Jason is like the
big stupid dog with a little bit of sympathy in him. Now you can
quote me on that, but that might be a trap, don't print this as the
result of the battle necessarily, as I like to say Freddy takes a
licking...but he keeps on ticking.
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You haven't lived until you've
heard the TRUE Freddy Krueger's voice cackle at ya over the phone! I
expected a burnt tongue to pop out of my receiver at any moment.
I've never felt so "fanboy" during an interview...I mean, here I am
talking with a man who scared the shit out of me when I was a kid.
Robert lived up to his positive rep, he was way cool, funny and very
pleasant to interview. Thanks A BUNDLE Robert and keep kicking it
dude! I now can't wait for Freddy Vs Jason!
CLICK
HERE TO READ PART 2 OF MY INTERVIEW WITH
ROBERT ENGLUND

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