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Face-Off: Real Steel vs. Transformers 3
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by Stephanie Cooke Jan. 27, 2012
For last week’s Face Off, we pitted action movies Red and Wanted against one another. Our breakdown led the verdict to come out as a tie, but in the end, it’s all up to YOU. So which movie triumphed and came out victorious? This was the first Face Off (thus far) where the decision wasn’t completely unanimous and one movie won over the other by a meager ONE vote. So who won? Like I said, the runner-up came awfully close, but in the end, Wanted took the lead and won last week's Face Off!

This week, the film Real Steel arrived on DVD and Blu-ray. And it got me thinking about what would happen if Atom went head-to-head with Optimus Prime from Transformers. Of course, that fight only takes place on my head and unless I want to write a fanfiction about it, it’ll stay that way. The next best thing is putting the characters respective movies head-to-head for this week’s Face Off... REAL STEEL vs. TRANSFORMERS 3: DARK OF THE MOON.
Titles
If I knew nothing about REAL STEEL other than just the title, I think I would probably assume it was a movie about construction workers or something. The title doesn’t exactly give off the vibe that this movie is about robot boxing. Lots of people have suggested that a more appropriate title for the film would’ve just been Rock Em, Sock Em Robots and I think something along those lines would’ve worked a lot better.
TRANSFORMERS 3: DARK OF THE MOON isn’t exactly a great title either, but while it is a bit wordy, it isn’t too bad. It tells you that this is part of the Transformers movie franchise and it implies something dark and foreboding on the moon. Which pretty well sums up what the whole movie is about.
Directors/Directing
Shawn Levy is a name that you’re probably not too familiar with. He does have a few titles that you’ve probably seen though like Date Night, the 2006 Pink Panther, both Night at the Museum films, Just Married, the 2003 Cheaper by the Dozen, Big Fat Liar and he’s directed some miscellaneous TV series episodes.

But the question here is how does he do with REAL STEEL? I think that this film has trouble deciding what kind of film it wants to be. Is it a family film? Is it an action film? Is it a futuristic drama? The direction of the film is a bit off and while the concept of the film is based off a really interesting story (titled Steel by Richard Matheson), the film didn’t really contain any of the charm that original story (or the episode of The Twilight Zone that adapted it) did.
Michael Bay is a name that most movie buffs are familiar with. He’s known for making things go BOOM! in his movies. Some of his more notable works include Armageddon, the previous two Transformers films, Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys I and II and The Island.

As far as his work in this film though, how does he do? Well, I think that TRANSFORMERS 3 is the strongest film from the franchise, but is it a good movie? Sure, it’s entertaining, but I don’t think that Mr. Bay goes above and beyond his call of duty as a director to make it that awesome.
Cast
REAL STEEL has a couple of big names including Hugh Jackman, Evangeline Lilly, Hope Davis, Anthony Mackie and Kevin Durand, but the film’s main star is child actor Dakota Goyo (who looks like he could be Justin Bieber’s kid brother… or demon spawn!).
TRANSFORMERS 3 stars Shia LaBeouf (meh), Rosie Huntington-Whitely (who was surprisingly decent in the movie… maybe she got action film pointers from beau Jason Statham), Tyrese Gibson, Patrick Dempsey (aka Dr. McDreamy), Frances McDormand, John Turturro, John Malkovich and Alan Tudyk (who was my favourite part of the movie!) with voice actors Peter Cullen, Leonard Nimoy and James Remar.
Soundtracks
• "Here’s A Little Something For Ya" by Beastie Boys
• "Miss The Misery" by Foo Fighters
• "The Enforcer" by 50 Cent
• "Make Some Noise" by The Crystal Method ft. Yelawolf
• "Till I Collapse" by Eminem
• "One Man Army" by Prodigy & Tom Morello
• "Give It A Go" by Timbaland ft. Veronica
• "The Midas Touch" by Tom Morello
• "Why Try" by Limp Bizkit
• "All My Days" by Alexi Murdoch
• "Kenton" by Danny Elfman
• "Iridescent" by Linkin Park
• "Monster" by Paramore
• "The Only Hope For Me Is You" by My Chemical Romance
• "Faith" by Taking Back Sunday
• "The Bottom" by Staind
• "Get Thru This" by Art Of Dying
• "All That you Are" by Goo Goo Dolls
• "Head Above Water" by Theory Of A Deadman
• "Set The World On Fire" by Black Veil Brides
• "Alive & Awake (Remix)" by Skillet
• "Just Got Paid" by Mastodon
Entertainment Value
REAL STEEL definitely had a premise to be a brainless, entertaining flick, but was instead just all over the place. But let’s ignore the bad and try and focus on the good… like Evangeline Lilly as a sexy, robot mechanic/robot gym owner. Or SORT OF SPOILER when Hugh Jackman gets the crap kicked out of him by Kevin Durand END OF SORT OF SPOILER. How about the robot fighting action? Some of that was also pretty awesome (sans dancing).
With any Transformers movie, you can expect mindless action and explosions (courtesy of Michael Bay, of course). You can expect lots of eye candy and you can expect big, extremely high budget action sequences. Is TRANSFORMERS 3 enjoyable? Sure, at times. Is it action-packed? Sure and again, it's full of lots of things going BOOM! including a ton of things that shouldn’t be able to go BOOM! like lampposts and trees.
Transformers 3
TRANSFORMERS 3 took the win on this one according to our breakdown. I was tempted to give REAL STEEL the points for Cast because of Evangeline Lilly, but Alan Tudyk and pretty well everyone else save Shia LaBeouf convinced me to give the point to them. But putting our verdict aside, which movie is YOUR favourite? Did you enjoy REAL STEEL and the robots duking it out in the ring or did you enjoy TRANSFORMERS 3 with its alien robots duking it out on Earth?

If YOU have an idea for The Face Off, like what movies you'd like see go head-to-head, let us know! We want to hear about what movies you think would make for a good competition and you can email those suggestions to stephaniecooke@joblo.com and then check back to see YOUR challenge!

So which movie do you think is better?

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SauronsBANE
11:09AM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I'm convinced you're one of those movie-goers who just likes hot actors/actresses and big explosions...in other words, michael bay's target audience. i'll give you the titles argument, as theres no denying the powerful effect on movie-goers just by simply adding in the word "transformers" in the title has. for director, yes bay obviously has the pedigree and credentials. but in terms of the
I'm convinced you're one of those movie-goers who just likes hot actors/actresses and big explosions...in other words, michael bay's target audience. i'll give you the titles argument, as theres no denying the powerful effect on movie-goers just by simply adding in the word "transformers" in the title has. for director, yes bay obviously has the pedigree and credentials. but in terms of the actual directing of each movie, Transformers 3 was a train wreck. maybe if he hadnt spend half an hour on setting up the introduction, he wouldve had time to end the movie, you know, NOT ridiculously abruptly. and it seemed the movie was leading us to believe that shockwave would be the main villain next to megatron....nope! sure the giant skyscraper-eating metal earthworm was freakin cool, but shockwave took a backseat to megatron and sentinel prime. not nearly as much screen time as he deserved. the stupid vulture decepticon and sam's extremely irritating co-worker?? that was bay's patented attempt at stupid humor. in terms of casting, yes transformers had all the superstars. that doesnt mean they were good though. in real steel, ya i thought the kid was a little annoying. but the chemistry between jackman and the gorgeous evangeline lilly more than made up for it. meanwhile, that victorias secret model couldnt act whatsoever. which is to be expected because shes not, you know, an actress. not as bad as i thought she'd be, granted, but in no way is she a good actress. standing up to megatron and turning him against sentinel?? first, NO ONE should be able to talk to megatron like that and expect to live longer than 10 seconds. 2nd, that was such a cop-out just to have her have an impact on the story. as for soundtracks, i thought iridescent was the only song in transformers? that was the definition of overusing a song to make it more 'emotional.' as for entertainment, ya transformers was bearable because its filled with hot women/men and giant robots fighting to the death. but real steel actually resonated emotionally. it tells a great story. jackman goes from being a single, greedy, selfish jerk to being a loving father/boyfriend. sam witwicky goes from moping around that he doesnt matter anymore to...what, exactly? not sure what character progression he went through. transformers 3 was definitely the worst movie of the trilogy. real steel, which was a beautiful mix of being an action film and a family film, stands head and shoulders above transformers 3.
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SauronsBANE
11:10AM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
wow...didnt mean to make this rant so long...shouldnt ever get me started on transformers 3!
wow...didnt mean to make this rant so long...shouldnt ever get me started on transformers 3!
 
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ChiefAaron
11:27AM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Oh, SauronsBANE, if you think Transformers 3 was the worst in the trilogy then you clearly didn't see Transformers 2. Either that or your taste is completely the opposite of the majority of movie-goers. Regarding the two movies in question here, I didn't get the impression that she liked either one particularly well. It was more of a "lesser of two evils" decision. I also don't think her stated
Oh, SauronsBANE, if you think Transformers 3 was the worst in the trilogy then you clearly didn't see Transformers 2. Either that or your taste is completely the opposite of the majority of movie-goers. Regarding the two movies in question here, I didn't get the impression that she liked either one particularly well. It was more of a "lesser of two evils" decision. I also don't think her stated preference for actor Alan Tudyk means she likes hot actors/actresses. If that were the case she would have easily give the "Cast" point to Reel Steal.
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SauronsBANE
1:41PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
you make some good points, ill admit. and honestly maybe i do have a different taste, because i saw transformers 2, and although it definitely had alottt of flaws, i didnt think it was as flagrantly awful as people make it out to be. the 1st movie was the best, then it got worse with the 2nd, and then hit rock bottom with the 3rd. too much emphasis on making it 'bigger' and more 'emotional,' am...
you make some good points, ill admit. and honestly maybe i do have a different taste, because i saw transformers 2, and although it definitely had alottt of flaws, i didnt think it was as flagrantly awful as people make it out to be. the 1st movie was the best, then it got worse with the 2nd, and then hit rock bottom with the 3rd. too much emphasis on making it 'bigger' and more 'emotional,' among manyyy many other flaws. but i definitely see your point with the hot actor/actresses. ill probably never be convinced of transformers 3 being a good movie, but to each his/her own.
 
Cathelotte
4:32PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
You've earned my "thumb up" for your answer to SauronBANE: it was respectful and polite! No "you're a dumb ass" or "fuck you, retard" or "you're sooo gay" like most people around here usually write!
You've earned my "thumb up" for your answer to SauronBANE: it was respectful and polite! No "you're a dumb ass" or "fuck you, retard" or "you're sooo gay" like most people around here usually write!
 
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Jekkie24601
12:04PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Real Steel was a far superior movie to any of the Transformers. I almost didn't go see it because I thought it would be like Transformers. I was pleasantly surprised.
Real Steel was a far superior movie to any of the Transformers. I almost didn't go see it because I thought it would be like Transformers. I was pleasantly surprised.
 
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Licha_Bates
12:20PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Transformers 3 was way better than Transformers 2, but no way better than Real Steel.
Transformers 3 was way better than Transformers 2, but no way better than Real Steel.
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Streicher
10:42AM on 01/28/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Nice. I think your comment says it perfectly.
Nice. I think your comment says it perfectly.
 
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JakeLikesMovies
12:40PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
You make some valid points but ...
There is one thing that Real Steel has that Transformers 3 is lacking; heart.
I thought it was just going to be a harmless fun flick that would essentially be Rock'em'Sockem robots with Wolverine and I, like Jekkie, was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. The only category that I feel Transformers could have a shot at winning would be the director, but I've always been a Michael Bay
There is one thing that Real Steel has that Transformers 3 is lacking; heart.
I thought it was just going to be a harmless fun flick that would essentially be Rock'em'Sockem robots with Wolverine and I, like Jekkie, was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. The only category that I feel Transformers could have a shot at winning would be the director, but I've always been a Michael Bay apologist.
 
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cerealkiller182
12:51PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Transformers 3. At least it had that last 30 minutes of awesomeness while Reel Steel had...not much of anything.
Transformers 3. At least it had that last 30 minutes of awesomeness while Reel Steel had...not much of anything.
 
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dead anchoress
1:03PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Transformers 3 > Real Steel if I absolutely HAVE to choose. If only for the fact that at least Transformers has some epic destruction sequences but that hardly makes up for the films weak characters, blatant racism, and tired plot. Fuck the humans and just have a Transformers movie on a planet that isn't Earth for once! No one gives a shit about the human race in a Transformers movie.
Transformers 3 > Real Steel if I absolutely HAVE to choose. If only for the fact that at least Transformers has some epic destruction sequences but that hardly makes up for the films weak characters, blatant racism, and tired plot. Fuck the humans and just have a Transformers movie on a planet that isn't Earth for once! No one gives a shit about the human race in a Transformers movie.
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andris
1:01PM on 01/31/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Actually, I do. For me, the best part of Tf3 was when the Autobots were out of sight, and the humans were on their own, fighting the Dicepticons.
Actually, I do. For me, the best part of Tf3 was when the Autobots were out of sight, and the humans were on their own, fighting the Dicepticons.
 
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ericodarko
1:40PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I have to give my vote to real steel. it was tons of fun and i was pleasantly surprised by it. as for transformers 3, i completely despised it. the first 90 minutes is spent on a useless storyline involving sam trying to get a job and it gets completely abandoned and never mentioned again. then you get megatron going through a mid-life crisis, nasa accountants as the vialins, and megatron being
I have to give my vote to real steel. it was tons of fun and i was pleasantly surprised by it. as for transformers 3, i completely despised it. the first 90 minutes is spent on a useless storyline involving sam trying to get a job and it gets completely abandoned and never mentioned again. then you get megatron going through a mid-life crisis, nasa accountants as the vialins, and megatron being tricked by a girl using reverse psychology? and, as a civil engineer, i was completely offended/infuriated by the preposterousness of the destructions equence especially with the building just standin at a 45 degree angle while it's getting destroyed and...i'm sorry i got carried away there. it is not really the filmakers fault for the lapse in engineering accuracy, it was just me being nitpicky haha. anyways, real steel = awesome, tdotm = poor excuse for a film (even worse than revenge of fallen!)
 
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JFernandes
2:43PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Transformers 3, easily.
Transformers 3, easily.
 
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speederice
3:38PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Transformers 3 - 100% fewer dancing 11-year-olds.
Transformers 3 - 100% fewer dancing 11-year-olds.
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Streicher
10:39AM on 01/28/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Shouldn't you have typed "Transformers 3 = 100% fewer..." and not "-"? Even most dancing 11 year olds know that.

Anyone else find it interesting that everyone who disagrees with this article's decision has positive ratings on their comments and everyone who agrees has negative ratings?
Shouldn't you have typed "Transformers 3 = 100% fewer..." and not "-"? Even most dancing 11 year olds know that.

Anyone else find it interesting that everyone who disagrees with this article's decision has positive ratings on their comments and everyone who agrees has negative ratings?
 
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optimusprime24
3:59PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I've been trying really hard to rent Real Steel, but all the redbox around here are out of stock. Hopefully, I'll see it soon.
I've been trying really hard to rent Real Steel, but all the redbox around here are out of stock. Hopefully, I'll see it soon.
 
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SuperRO
4:47PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
I have to disagree but I found Real Steel to have a lot more heart and more underdog fun. Don't get me wrong, I love me some robots, explosions and hot chicks but TF3 was pretty much the same while Real Steel was waaaay better than what I was expecting.
I have to disagree but I found Real Steel to have a lot more heart and more underdog fun. Don't get me wrong, I love me some robots, explosions and hot chicks but TF3 was pretty much the same while Real Steel was waaaay better than what I was expecting.
 
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filmguy450
6:45PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Very Bad Decision
The only point of the break down I agree with is the title. Just because TF3 has a larger and (mostly) better known cast doesn't mean those actors are good. I love Tudyk (see him in 'Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil' to see how great he can be) but playing a stereotypical and offensive gay person, he was awful. Shia gave the worst performance of his career in this. I could go on about the cast, but to make
The only point of the break down I agree with is the title. Just because TF3 has a larger and (mostly) better known cast doesn't mean those actors are good. I love Tudyk (see him in 'Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil' to see how great he can be) but playing a stereotypical and offensive gay person, he was awful. Shia gave the worst performance of his career in this. I could go on about the cast, but to make it brief, aside from Peter Cullen everyone else sucked. As for 'directors', aren't Levy and Bay both the same on level for film buffs, in terms of how much hated they get (sometimes, not deserved)? As such, shouldn't we focus on which made the better film? In that case, Real Steel wins, as it has good fight sequences and acting. As for the whole 'it didn't know what kind of movie it wants to be'- that exact charge can (and should be leveled) at TF3. Is it a movie about an entitled asshole that can't get a job? Is it an offensive comedy about 'Deep Wang'? Or is it a movie about goddamned giant space alien robots fighting each other? Considering how little of the titular characters are in this (or any of the three films really), I am not too sure it is that last. This Face Off was an awful joke.
 
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Nowheredan136
7:40PM on 01/27/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Agreed
I think "Real Steel" gets credit for being more original and risky than TF3, but TF3 a really good movie. In a big budget action movie like that, all i ask for is a story and acting thats not terrible enough to distract from the amazing effects and action scenes. With TF3, thats exactly what i got. Not a perfect movie, but a damn good entertaining one.
I think "Real Steel" gets credit for being more original and risky than TF3, but TF3 a really good movie. In a big budget action movie like that, all i ask for is a story and acting thats not terrible enough to distract from the amazing effects and action scenes. With TF3, thats exactly what i got. Not a perfect movie, but a damn good entertaining one.
 
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hoodlum.thunder
12:51AM on 01/28/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
the Rock em Sock em reference
what a fucking pioneer of comedy...hadnt heard that one in the last day or so. formulaic and sugar-laced as it was...give me Real Steel anyday over the piss-poor handling of the Transformers.
what a fucking pioneer of comedy...hadnt heard that one in the last day or so. formulaic and sugar-laced as it was...give me Real Steel anyday over the piss-poor handling of the Transformers.
 
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Cochise
7:36PM on 01/29/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
easy
Dark of the Moon! But of course, it's one of those rare movies that people actually love to HATE/troll but it is what it is. Still, highly entertaining flick for me, and for millions of others!
Dark of the Moon! But of course, it's one of those rare movies that people actually love to HATE/troll but it is what it is. Still, highly entertaining flick for me, and for millions of others!
 
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b2webster84
8:10PM on 01/29/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Ok... so, I haven't seen Real Steal but I really wanted to. I, like another guy, haven't been able to get it at the red box yet. From what i'm told it's pretty good, from a pure entertainment value point of view. Now I have seen T3 and it was bad, not T2 bad but somebody cut this down 30 min. bad. Even though the cast was "popular" they were terrible. Dempsy was atrocious, just terrible and
Ok... so, I haven't seen Real Steal but I really wanted to. I, like another guy, haven't been able to get it at the red box yet. From what i'm told it's pretty good, from a pure entertainment value point of view. Now I have seen T3 and it was bad, not T2 bad but somebody cut this down 30 min. bad. Even though the cast was "popular" they were terrible. Dempsy was atrocious, just terrible and Lebouf was worse than Crystal Skull. So, even with out seeing Real Steal I have to say this is wrong.
I love Transformers and I love Nemoy, so how did you fuck that up Bay?
 
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andris
12:55PM on 01/31/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Michael Bay
"Some of his more notable works include Armageddon, the previous two Transformers films, Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys I and II and The Island"

The ONLY film you left out of his filmography was THE ROCK. Guess that wasn't all that "notable" to you...
"Some of his more notable works include Armageddon, the previous two Transformers films, Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys I and II and The Island"

The ONLY film you left out of his filmography was THE ROCK. Guess that wasn't all that "notable" to you...
 
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andris
1:01PM on 01/31/2012 Add as a friend | MFC profile
Michael Bay
"Some of his more notable works include Armageddon, the previous two Transformers films, Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys I and II and The Island"

The ONLY film you left out of his filmography was THE ROCK. Guess that wasn't all that "notable" to you...
"Some of his more notable works include Armageddon, the previous two Transformers films, Pearl Harbor, Bad Boys I and II and The Island"

The ONLY film you left out of his filmography was THE ROCK. Guess that wasn't all that "notable" to you...