Gyllenhaal offends Gulf War vets

[Lynn7]

GYLLENHAAL OFFENDS GULF WAR VETERANS


Also see:
JAKE GYLLENHAAL
JARHEAD


Movie star JAKE GYLLENHAAL has shocked American Gulf War veterans by joking they did nothing but "masturbate" during their time in the desert in 1991. The cheeky 25-year-old stars in JARHEAD, a movie exposing the US soldiers' lack of combat in the Middle Eastern conflict. He said, "The US soldiers were sent to the desert for 122 days and they sat in the same tent and did nothing, except a little too much masturbating."
29/04/2006 14:28



I don't think people should think that because they read a book or saw (or acted) in a movie, that means the whole truth has been presented.A lot of actors make the mistake of thinking because they starred in a movie they now are in the "know" on the issue.

[echo_bravo]

Wow, this little comment just proves my "I hate the Gyllenhaals" rant I had posted awhile back.

I would love for this little prick to say that to a Marine's face. He would get sent away in a stretcher.

Both his parents were in showbusiness to begin with, so him and his bratty sister have had pretty much every role handed to them on a silver platter. He comes across as a snotty, hipster little bitch. Cant fucking stand the guy. HE BETTER NOT FUCK UP ZODIAC!!!!!!!!!!!

(calms down) Sorry about that but the Gyllenhaals rub me the wrong way.

[The Heart Collector]

Hahahaha. That comment was hilarious.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Lynn7
I don't think people should think that because they read a book or saw (or acted) in a movie, that means the whole truth has been presented.A lot of actors make the mistake of thinking because they starred in a movie they now are in the "know" on the issue.


He was joking.

[someguy]

Um...were they really shocked or offended? The only thing I saw was that they were 'shocked' but there is no quote from any person who was there. I think that someone is just trying to find an excuse to smear Gyllenhaal here.

[Lynn7]

I would be slightly offened if I had trained to go to war was sent to a possible situation where I might be killed and had to be in extremely hot weather and wearing tons of gear and was away from my family and friends and then years later some actor makes a flip, derogatory comment like that. Yes, I would be mad.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by Lynn7
I would be slightly offened if I had trained to go to war was sent to a possible situation where I might be killed and had to be in extremely hot weather and wearing tons of gear and was away from my family and friends and then years later some actor makes a flip, derogatory comment like that. Yes, I would be mad.

Yeah.

Imagine how insulting it would be if the guy who sent them to die suddenly made jokes about the reason he sent them to die didn't really turn out to be true in front of a gathering of importance guests while being filmed.


Nope, no weapons of mass destruction down here.

[The Heart Collector]

Except The President is beyond reproach.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Lynn7
I would be slightly offened if I had trained to go to war was sent to a possible situation where I might be killed and had to be in extremely hot weather and wearing tons of gear and was away from my family and friends and then years later some actor makes a flip, derogatory comment like that. Yes, I would be mad.



You shouldn't be ashamed of masturbation, though. Everyone was doing it, and you needed to blow off steam while killing time. It's really no big deal, although quite icky.

[EVILxxx]

This issue seems to come down to intent. What did GYLLENHAAL intend to mean. Having heard a few of his other interviews he had said he had great respect for the men who served in Desert Storm and the men who continue to serve, so i don't think his comment was meant to offend anyone.

[Joshmo]

Um, Lynn?

Care to comment on the man who sent people to war and then joked about not finding WMDs under his desk as compared to an actor who hasnt sent anyone to die and was joking..and is ALLOWED to joke simply cuz he hasnt sent anyone in harms way..to die?

I've heard Jake on a few talk shows show admiration for the military. Sounds taken out of context for sure.

I've heard Bush say he respects the troops and then crack fucking jokes about no wmds...people are dying and he jokes about the very reason he said he sent there for...that amounts to lip service. He SUCKS...admit it.

[Lynn7]

OK let's be fair. If you say Gyllanhall has respect for the troops but was making a joke that is fine. But let's do the same thing for Bush. If he made a WMD joke but says he respects the troops then let's give him the same treatment.

Oh what the heck let's go even further and not judge people on any one thing they say but take everything into consideration about what they stand for or not. What a revolutionary idea! Then the Trent Lott's of the world will not be railroaded out of their positions as a racists because of one comment they make despite entire careers of tolerance. I'm all for getting rid of the gotcha and politically correct mentality.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Lynn7
OK let's be fair. If you say Gyllanhall has respect for the troops but was making a joke that is fine. But let's do the same thing for Bush. If he made a WMD joke but says he respects the troops then let's give him the same treatment.

Oh what the heck let's go even further and not judge people on any one thing they say but take everything into consideration about what they stand for or not. What a revolutionary idea! Then the Trent Lott's of the world will not be railroaded out of their positions as a racists because of one comment they make despite entire careers of tolerance. I'm all for getting rid of the gotcha and politically correct mentality.


Yeah, but you cast the first stone.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Whatever, I think what Gyllenhaal said is pretty damn funny, no matter how politically incorrect it was.

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by Lynn7
OK let's be fair. If you say Gyllanhall has respect for the troops but was making a joke that is fine. But let's do the same thing for Bush. If he made a WMD joke but says he respects the troops then let's give him the same treatment.

Oh what the heck let's go even further and not judge people on any one thing they say but take everything into consideration about what they stand for or not. What a revolutionary idea! Then the Trent Lott's of the world will not be railroaded out of their positions as a racists because of one comment they make despite entire careers of tolerance. I'm all for getting rid of the gotcha and politically correct mentality.

There are different levels in whcih a joke might be inappropriate. If you're THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, it's a hell of a lot more inappropriate to make the joke that if you're some fucking actor. If you're responsible for the goddamn war, you don't crack jokes about how the reasons for it didn't pan out IN PUBLIC.

You're not all for getting rid of any mentality. You're just backtracking because George W Bush does this same old shit.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
There are different levels in whcih a joke might be inappropriate. If you're THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, it's a hell of a lot more inappropriate to make the joke that if you're some fucking actor. If you're responsible for the goddamn war, you don't crack jokes about how the reasons for it didn't pan out IN PUBLIC.

You're not all for getting rid of any mentality. You're just backtracking because George W Bush does this same old shit. Fuckin' A. THC, you took the words right out of my mouth. How is it that you could give Bush the same treatment as Jake. Bush started the fucking war and then made a joke about the reasons why he sent the troops over.

[Lynn7]

Bush started the war? Talk about revisionist history! Hussein started the war by kicking out the inspectors that he agreed to have come in. Buy firing on our military that he agreed to let come in when he LOST the first Gulf War. Bush gave him hundreds of chances up to about 48 hours before the war began Bush was still giving Hussein the chance to back down. Hussein was like "Bring it on!" and so Bush did. With the congress' approval.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Hey....does anyone remember that bin Laden guy? I wonder if Bush still remembers him....

[darchangel]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Hey....does anyone remember that bin Laden guy? I wonder if Bush still remembers him....

The answer? No...and it doesn't look like Lynn does, either.




~darchangel~

[EVILxxx]

Well he is kind of hard to get while he resides in the sovereign nation of Pakistan.

[MacReady]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
Well he is kind of hard to get while he resides in the sovereign nation of Pakistan.

Well, tell that puppet leader over there to kill him for us or else will turn the tables on him. I really don't want him laying around with a muslim majority country that's got nukes.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by MacReady
Well, tell that puppet leader over there to kill him for us or else will turn the tables on him. I really don't want him laying around with a muslim majority country that's got nukes.

I agree. The problem is that he is in an area that can only be described as "The Wild West" of Pakistan. There is absolutly no law and the people there are pretty much left to what ever devices suit them.



KABUL, Afghanistan — A top U.S. counterterrorism official said Saturday that parts of Pakistan are a "safe haven" for militants and Usama bin Laden was more likely to be hiding there than in Afghanistan.

Henry Crumpton, the U.S. ambassador in charge of counterterrorism, lauded Pakistan for arresting "hundreds and hundreds" of Al Qaeda figures but said it needed to do more.

CountryWatch: Pakistan

CountryWatch: Afghanistan

"Has Pakistan done enough? I think the answer is no. I have conveyed that to them, other U.S. officials have conveyed that to them," he told reporters at the U.S. Embassy in Kabul after talks with Afghan officials.

The chief spokesman for Pakistan's army, Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan, dismissed Crumpton's assertion that Islamabad was not doing enough.

"It is totally absurd," he said. "No one has conveyed this thing to Pakistan, and if someone claims so, it is absurd."

Crumpton said U.S. officials continue to believe that bin Laden is somewhere along the Afghan-Pakistani border, and was more likely to be on the Pakistani side.

(Story continues below)

ADVERTISEMENTS
Advertise Here

"If we knew exactly where bin Laden was, we'd go get him," Crumpton said. "But we're very confident he's along the Pakistan-Afghan border somewhere," he said.

He added that there was a "higher probability" that the Al Qaeda leader was hiding on the Pakistan side.

Crumpton also gave Islamabad credit for last year's capture of a top Al Qaeda strategist with a $5 million bounty on his head.

U.S. and Pakistani officials said earlier this week that Mustafa Setmarian Nasar was arrested in the southwestern Pakistani city of Quetta in November. Crumpton said that this showed that Pakistan is working to arrest Al Qaeda leaders.

Pakistan has launched repeated counterterrorism operations in its lawless tribal regions close to the Afghan border over the past two years, in which hundreds of militants and soldiers have died.

"Our expectation is that they will continue to make progress, and we know that it's difficult," he said. Pakistan "can't remain a safe haven for enemy forces, and right now parts of Pakistan are indeed that."

A senior security official in Islamabad said that Crumpton, during meetings with Pakistani intelligence and government officials this week, praised Pakistan for its efforts to hunt down militants.

"I am surprised that he praised us here, and is saying something else in Kabul," the official said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the record.

The official added that Gen. John Abizaid, the chief of the U.S. Central Command, also thanked Pakistan when he met with Pakistani leader Gen. Pervez Musharraf on Thursday.

Separately, gunmen on a motorcycle killed a former regional Taliban leader who switched allegiances after the hard-line regime was ousted in southwestern Pakistan on Saturday, police said.

Mullah Samad Barakzai, who was head of the Department for Promotion of Virtue And Prevention of Vice in Afghanistan's southern Helmand province during the Taliban's hard-line rule, was standing near a seminary in Quetta when he was attacked, local police chief Qazi Abdul Wahid said.

He said Barakzai, also known as Maulvi Yar Mohammed, had been living in Pakistan since the Taliban regime was ousted in late 2001 as a result of U.S.-led attacks.

The man had distanced himself from the Taliban and become a supporter of Afghan President Hamid Karzai's government, Wahid said.

"It seems that he has been killed by Taliban," he told The Associated Press.
Foxnews.com

[MacReady]

What might be more humiliating is the fact there are parts of Afghanistan still controled by the Taliban.

[EVILxxx]

Well they don't have cities under their control. All they have is a few spider holes in some mountains and areas that would make the most humble One horse town in Virginia look like a booming metropolis.
Plus we know they are there. It is far more benficial for us to observe them from an area which we know where they are, than to bomb them out of their hiding spots making them go into hiding.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
. . . One horse town in Virginia . . .

I've lived there.