NSA tapping phone calls

[bigred760]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/12/feedback.phone.records/index.html

I personally don't have too much of a problem with this; I mean, for starters my phone calls aren't that interesting to begin with, and I don't have anything to hide.

Right or wrong?

[outsyder]

Just talk dirty.

[Jon Lyrik]

I rarely use the phone and I have nothing to hide, but I still don't want anyone tapping into my calls. Ever.

[Squid Vicious]

There's an old joke:

A guy is crawling around on his hands and knees under a lamppost. Another guy walks up and says, "Hey, what are you doing?"

The crawling guy responds, "I dropped my car keys."

The other guy says, "Did you drop them over here?"

The crawling guy says, "No, I dropped them over there, but there's more light over here."

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I'll let you figure out for yourself what this joke has to do with this thread.

[free]

Damn... it really is beginning.

I read a few of the responses in the link, and this one is by far my favorite:


So now the government can see all the people who have called Planned Parenthood in any given area. They can also see every woman who has called a women's clinic that provides abortion services. The can see every person who ever called the ACLU, or the EFF, or any other privacy organization. Granted, they don't know what was said in that conversation. However, given the obvious agenda of our current administration, the very calls themselves would be enough to get some of us on a "list" of people to watch for possible subversive activities. Please note that these are all phone calls that are perfectly legal to make. The end result will be guilt by association, one of the things that our Constitution was supposed to expressly protect us from. There are those who say, "If you've done nothing wrong, what do you have to fear?" To those people I would ask, why do you send your mail in envelopes? Why not just write it on post cards for everyone to see? Surely you're not sending anything illegal or subversive in your mail, right? So what do you have to worry about?


"Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power."

[Lynn7]

We are living in a dream world if we think that people don't have access to our phone calls and our internet usage etc. Everything we do is open to be getting obained by someone. In order to use this against us they would have to get a court order. I am not paranoid about this because I figure that there are millions and millions of people and the government has trouble funcitoning in many capacities. They are not going to be going through our records. If they are watching someone for terrorism then I suppose the might look at who they call etc.

With caller Id and etc I'm sure the phone company has records of everything.Even the cable company knows what shows you watch in many instances.

[someguy]

Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You're Calling

May 15, 2006 10:33 AM

Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

A senior federal law enforcement official tells ABC News the government is tracking the phone numbers we (Brian Ross and Richard Esposito) call in an effort to root out confidential sources.

"It's time for you to get some new cell phones, quick," the source told us in an in-person conversation.

ABC News does not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls.

Other sources have told us that phone calls and contacts by reporters for ABC News, along with the New York Times and the Washington Post, are being examined as part of a widespread CIA leak investigation.

One former official was asked to sign a document stating he was not a confidential source for New York Times reporter James Risen.

Our reports on the CIA's secret prisons in Romania and Poland were known to have upset CIA officials. The CIA asked for an FBI investigation of leaks of classified information following those reports.

People questioned by the FBI about leaks of intelligence information say the CIA was also disturbed by ABC News reports that revealed the use of CIA predator missiles inside Pakistan.

Under Bush Administration guidelines, it is not considered illegal for the government to keep track of numbers dialed by phone customers.

The official who warned ABC News said there was no indication our phones were being tapped so the content of the conversation could be recorded.

A pattern of phone calls from a reporter, however, could provide valuable clues for leak investigators.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/05/federal_source_.html

Looks like the government is really using this to uh....defeat terrorists :confused:

[Squid Vicious]

But guys...

If they weren't collecting our phone records, they'd be collecting our REMAINS!!! (http://clips.mediamatters.org/static/video/yourworld-20060511.mov)

:rolleyes:

What a tool...