Make the Most Elitist Top 10 Movies You Can

[ChemicalRomance]

My friend had done this with me a while ago and I found it to be very fun with the random lists you can put together. Basically just compile what you think the top 10 of the biggest film snob in the world might look like: strictly old movies, forgotten classics by auteurs, movies that boggle the mind with randomness and obscurity, etc. Give it a whirl!


1) Novecento: 1900 (Bernardo Bertolucci)
2) Fitzcarraldo (Werner Herzog)
3) Lifeboat (Alfred Hitchcock)
4) Salo, Or The 120 Days of Sodom (Pier Paolo Pasolini)
5) Fallen Angels (Kar Wai Wong)
6) Hour of the Wolf (Ingmar Bergman)
7) Satyricon (Federico Fellini)
8) Naked Lunch (David Cronenberg)
9) Dersu Uzala (Akira Kurosawa)
10) Visitor Q (Takashi Miike)

[ChemicalRomance]

I guess everyone gives up cause they can't beat mine ;)

[bankholdup]

Strictly old movies, eh? Just post Hannibal's list! ;)

[ChemicalRomance]

Haha :)

I think it's more of a 'if i saw this list of 10 movies I would projectile vomit at the wannabe non-conformist this person is'. That kinda thing.

[Tayzlor]

01. The Society of the Spectacle (1959, Guy Debord)
02. **** (1967, Andy Warhol)
03. Good Night, Nurse! (1918, Buster Keaton)
04. Quintet (1979, Robert Altman)
05. Star Spangled to Death (2004, Ken Jacobs)
06. Renaldo and Clara (1978, Bob Dylan)
07. Ulysses' Gaze (1995, Theo Angelopoulos)
08. The Cure for Insomnia (1987, John Henry Timmis IV)
09. Jeanne Dielman, 23 Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975, Chantal Akerman)
10. Gerry (2002, Gus Van Sant)

[ChemicalRomance]

...I don't think anyone is beating that.

I'LL BE BACK!

[dman476]

1. Shoeshine (Sciuscià) (1949, De Sica)
2. The Devil's Envoys (1942, Carné)
3. Rocco and His Brothers (1960, Visconti)
4. L'Atlante - (1934, Vigo)
5. Day for Night (1973, Truffaut)
6. The Wind (1928, Sjöström)
7. Hippolyt, the Lackey (1931, Sekely)
8. The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (1975, Herzog)
9. The Ox-Bow Incident (1942, Wellman)
10. il Bidone (1955, Fellini)

[ChemicalRomance]

Originally posted by dman476
5. Day for Night (1973, Truffaut)

Damn you! I was gonna put that in my next one!

[dman476]

Originally posted by ChemicalRomance
Damn you! I was gonna put that in my next one!
Sorry :p

[Buck Turgidson]

This would be an exercise in stupidity from most other posters, but anyone who knows Drew's taste knows that he's quite the sophisticated cinephille (as is Tayzlor), so this promises to be interesting. Tayzlor including Gerry and a Warhol film probably puts it away.

Wonder if I should mention that I really like Day For Night, Naked Lunch and The Ox Bow Incident?

[Buck Turgidson]

1. Sleep (Warhol. 1963) [No, I haven't seen it...]
2. Last Year At Marienbad (Resnais, 1961)
3. The Passion of Joan Of Arc (Dreyer, 1928)
4. Monsier Verdoux (Chaplin, 1947)
5. Freaks (Tod Browning, 1932)
6. Industrial Symphony No. 1: The Dream of the Broken Hearted (David Lynch, 1991)
7. Persona (Bergman, 1966)
8.The Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975)
9.Fear and Desire (Kubrick, 1953)
10.Straight to Hell (Alex Cox, 1987)

I actually own one of these and like a few, but...I think this is a fair representation of a top ten for someone trying just a little too hard to be hip.

[ChemicalRomance]

Good lists Buck and dman.

About Persona though, yeah you might see it an elitists top 10, but I kinda went a different route and attempted to include what I consider more 'uknown' Bergman in Hour of the Wolf.

Hmm...I'm just lining up my plan of attack for my next list post. I'm going for a good one!

By the way, regarding "Sleep": Hahahhahahaha.

Oh yeah:

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
This would be an exercise in stupidity from most other posters, but anyone who knows Drew's taste knows that he's quite the sophisticated cinephille (as is Tayzlor)...

Thanks, you too! :)

[zeppelin]

1. The Rules of the Game (1939, Jean Renoir)
2. Day of Wrath (1943, Carl Theodor Dreyer)
3. Winter Light (1963, Ingmar Bergman)
4. Steamboat Bill, Jr. (1928, Charles Reisner & Buster Keaton)
5. Good Morning (1959, Yasujiro Ozu)
6. Ugetsu (1953, Kenji Mizoguchi)
7. The Earrings of Madame de... (1953, Max Ophuls)
8. The Conformist (1970, Bernardo Bertolucci)
9. Orpheus (1949, Jean Cocteau)
10. The Last Laugh (1924, F.W. Murnau)

Of course, this person would only include #4 to prove to everyone that he does not look down on comedies, so he digs up a really old one that is above the sense of humor of most other people. And for #3, this person will not be able to write anything about it without mentioning that it is "much better than the overrated The Seventh Seal."

[Andrew Ratto]

the

[ChemicalRomance]

Originally posted by Andrew Ratto
Chinatown

Really? Is that in the sense that it's so unobscure that in some crazy way it is obscure?

Remember the lists for this very same topic we were shooting around on AIM? Yeah, they were shit compared to what's been posted here so far. These lists kick our asses ahha.

[Andrew Ratto]

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[HeavyFknMetal]

This should be quite fun.

1. Pierrot le fou (1965, Jean-Luc Godard)
2. Un chien andalou (1929, Luis Buñuel)
3. Sansho the Bailiff (1954, Kenji Mizoguchi)
4. Salo, Or The 120 Days of Sodom ( 1975, Pier Paolo Pasolini)
5. Even Dwarfs Started Small (1970, Werner Herzog)
6. Kwaidan (1964, Masaki Kobayashi)
7. Mouchette (1967, Robert Bresson)
8. Montenegro (1981, Dusan Makavejev)
9. Teen Kanya (1961, Satyajit Ray)
10. Mikaël (1924, Carl Theodor Dreyer)

I hate the term film snob, mainly because that's what my friends call me. Well excuse me if I'd rather watch a Truffaut film over something like The Fast and the Furious.

[dman476]

Good call on The Conformist and Pierrot le fou guys.
I was going to use Sansho, but I thought it was only fair to leave that to Hannibal :)
I too don't like the term film snob too, but at least it makes a distinction between those who like Fellini's films (me! me! me!) and the Fast and the Furious.

I think Haxan should be mentioned in one of these lists too.

[ChemicalRomance]

Originally posted by HeavyFknMetal
4. Salo, Or The 120 Days of Sodom ( 1975, Pier Paolo Pasolini)

Copycat ;)

[HeavyFknMetal]

Originally posted by ChemicalRomance
Copycat ;)

It's a good pick what can I say.

[ChemicalRomance]

I think what makes the pick good is the directors name.

By the way I am dying to see SALO...rumor has it that it is one of the most valued DVD's in the world since Criterion lost it due to copyright problems.

The August 1998 Criterion was removed from the market due to copyright problems. So, this version of the DVD with the "white ring around the hub" can be easily sold for 600 or more US dollars in good condition. This makes it one of, if not the most, valuable DVD in the world. Bootlegs are extremely common due to its value. Research should be done before purchasing.

I'm also dying to see it because from everything I've read about it, this sure sounds like a fucking hard one to sit through!

::patiently waits for Hannibal to convince me to never ever see it::

[Tayzlor]

Originally posted by ChemicalRomance
I think what makes the pick good is the directors name.


Brings up another question:
Which directors would bait an elitist based on their name solely?

I'm thinking the Italians have this covered with Pasolini, Michelangelo Antonioni, Bernardo Bertolucci, Federico Fellini, Luchino Visconti... it's all in the syllables, I'm sure.

Perhaps the biggest giveaway possible would be if someone included one of Warhol's screen tests in their top ten.:D

I think zeppelin's list is perfect. All foreign, all official masterpieces. One problem: The Rules of the Game would be listed as "La Regle de Jeu".

[HeavyFknMetal]

I like this thread, I'm gonna start using this as my recommendation list. Elitist Film Snob here I come!!!!

Oh, and a few honorable mentions I just want to throw out there.

Wavelength (1967, Michael Snow)
Color of Pomegranates (1968, Sergei Parajanov)
Taste of Cherry (1997, Abbas Kiarostami)
Thieves (1996, Andre Techine)
Rendez-vous (1985, Andre Techine)
Meshes of the Afternoon (1943, Maya Deren)
The Falls (1980, Peter Greenaway)

This is fun, maybe I'll add more later.

[Hannibal21]

The following are in no particular order:

Paper Flowers (1959, Guru Dutt)
The Music Room (1958, Satyajit Ray)
Humanity and Paper Balloons (1937, Sadao Yamanaka)
Napoleon (1927, Abel Gance)
Freeze, Die, Come to Life (1989, Vitali Kanevsky)
Broken Blossoms (1919, D.W. Griffith)
Sherlock Jr. (1924, Buster Keaton)
Woman of the Dunes (1964, Hiroshi Teshigahara)
Chikamatsu monogatari (1954, Kenji Mizoguchi)
A Touch of Zen (1969, King Hu)

Originally posted by ChemicalRomance
I think what makes the pick good is the directors name.

By the way I am dying to see SALO...rumor has it that it is one of the most valued DVD's in the world since Criterion lost it due to copyright problems.

It's your funeral. :(

[dman476]

Another list:

My Life to Live (1962, Godard)
If...(1968, Anderson)
Age of Gold (1930, Bunuel)
A Man and a Woman (1966, Lelouch)
Stalker (1979, Tarkovsky)
Der Untertan (1951, Staudte)
Sedmikrasky (1966, Chytilova)
Weekend (1967, Godard)
Ko to tamo peva (1980, Sijan)
Days of Wrath (1968, Valerii)
Le Plasir (1952, Ophuls)

[ChemicalRomance]

Originally posted by dman476
If...(1968, Anderson)

Oooooooo good one!

[dman476]

Thanks. :D
I actually saw that film a while ago - and I remember it being really good. I'd love to watch it again but it's not on dvd :(

[Buck Turgidson]

Films I really like are starting to come up with more frequency...:D

I read about Sleep years ago and it immediately upped my regard for Warhol as an insidious underminer of all things normal, almost like Marcel Duchamp.

[dman476]

All this talk about Warhol is making me nuts.
I really want to see Empire now.
That movie sounds kick-ass; unlike ****.
What sane man can sit through a film 24 hours long?
No offense of course if someone can.

[Tayzlor]

Originally posted by dman476
What sane man can sit through a film 24 hours long?
No offense of course if someone can.

If you edit a whole season of 24 together, with commercials intact, then you may have some takers. You can take brief five minute Kramer naps while the commercials run.

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
I read about Sleep years ago and it immediately upped my regard for Warhol as an insidious underminer of all things normal, almost like Marcel Duchamp.

Hee, it has to be the creepiest thing to be in the same room with him and a camera. There's silence, and it may feel like you are alone, but he is watching, he is watching and he is recording. Creepiest of all, he is not commenting.

[QUENTIN]

1.) La Signora Senza Camelie (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1953)
2.) Die Gezeichneten (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1922)
3.) Noroshi wa Shanghai ni Agaru (Hiroshi Inagaki, 1944)
4.) Jalsaghar (Satyajit Ray, 1958)
5.) Berg-Ejvind och Hans Hustru (Victor Sjöström, 1918)
6.) Anaparastassi (Theo Angelopoulos, 1970)
7.) Drôle de Drame ou L'étrange Aventure de Docteur Molyneux (Marcel Carne, 1937)
8.) Mossafer (Abbas Kiarostami, 1974)
9.) Youth in Poland (Albert Maysles, 1957)
10.) Nuit et Brouillard (Alain Resnais, 1955)

This most elitist of the elitists would slip in the relatively "popular" Night and Fog in last place to show he's not a total snob, have the unknown Carne film be the only comedy, to show he can laugh, and have the only film in English be a black and white documentary by the Maysles brothers...before they were famous. Also of note would be his inclusion of Inagaki and Sjostrom rather than the "overrated, popular" Kurosowa and Bergman. And since he loves films so much, his #1 is an exposé of the hardships in film, directed by the master of pretension before he went all Hollywood. Runners up of course would be Godard's Le Petit Soldad, Tarkovsky's Nostalghia, and Welles' The Other Side of The Wind. Average year of release: 1941.

[Buck Turgidson]

Smart people with the Snarkometer® revved up to 10.

[dman476]

Originally posted by Tayzlor
If you edit a whole season of 24 together, with commercials intact, then you may have some takers. You can take brief five minute Kramer naps while the commercials run.
That is true. Still, it would be awfully hard.
Kramer naps? :p
I haven't done those ever before (I lie, I lie).

[HeavyFknMetal]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
1.) La Signora Senza Camelie (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1953)
2.) Die Gezeichneten (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1922)
3.) Noroshi wa Shanghai ni Agaru (Hiroshi Inagaki, 1944)
4.) Jalsaghar (Satyajit Ray, 1958)
5.) Berg-Ejvind och Hans Hustru (Victor Sjöström, 1918)
6.) Anaparastassi (Theo Angelopoulos, 1970)
7.) Drôle de Drame ou L'étrange Aventure de Docteur Molyneux (Marcel Carne, 1937)
8.) Mossafer (Abbas Kiarostami, 1974)
9.) Youth in Poland (Albert Maysles, 1957)
10.) Nuit et Brouillard (Alain Resnais, 1955)

This most elitist of the elitists would slip in the relatively "popular" Night and Fog in last place to show he's not a total snob, have the unknown Carne film be the only comedy, to show he can laugh, and have the only film in English be a black and white documentary by the Maysles brothers...before they were famous. Also of note would be his inclusion of Inagaki and Sjostrom rather than the "overrated, popular" Kurosowa and Bergman. And since he loves films so much, his #1 is an exposé of the hardships in film, directed by the master of pretension before he went all Hollywood.

Brilliant. I would change Jalsaghar to the lesser seen Teen Kanya though, but other than that, brilliant.

[Hannibal21]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
1.) La Signora Senza Camelie (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1953)
2.) Die Gezeichneten (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1922)
3.) Noroshi wa Shanghai ni Agaru (Hiroshi Inagaki, 1944)
4.) Jalsaghar (Satyajit Ray, 1958)
5.) Berg-Ejvind och Hans Hustru (Victor Sjöström, 1918)
6.) Anaparastassi (Theo Angelopoulos, 1970)
7.) Drôle de Drame ou L'étrange Aventure de Docteur Molyneux (Marcel Carne, 1937)
8.) Mossafer (Abbas Kiarostami, 1974)
9.) Youth in Poland (Albert Maysles, 1957)
10.) Nuit et Brouillard (Alain Resnais, 1955)

This most elitist of the elitists would slip in the relatively "popular" Night and Fog in last place to show he's not a total snob, have the unknown Carne film be the only comedy, to show he can laugh, and have the only film in English be a black and white documentary by the Maysles brothers...before they were famous. Also of note would be his inclusion of Inagaki and Sjostrom rather than the "overrated, popular" Kurosowa and Bergman. And since he loves films so much, his #1 is an exposé of the hardships in film, directed by the master of pretension before he went all Hollywood. Runners up of course would be Godard's Le Petit Soldad, Tarkovsky's Nostalghia, and Welles' The Other Side of The Wind. Average year of release: 1941.

Ladies and gentleman, I think we have a winner! I don't think any list could beat that.

[Tayzlor]

QUENTIN sounds like he just shimmied out of a conversation with one before sitting down to make the list. :D

[ChemicalRomance]

I think the most elitist film snob ever would have his #1 film be rated 9/10 or 4.5/5.

NO MOVIE IS PERFECT!

[chinton]

Random thought.

Im a big fan of Lifeboat. Underrated.

[dman476]

Originally posted by ChemicalRomance
I think the most elitist film snob ever would have his #1 film be rated 9/10 or 4.5/5.

NO MOVIE IS PERFECT!
HAHA, I totally agree.
That's so true.
I have a friend who is just like that.

[Tayzlor]

Never forget Bela Tarr. He'd be the most "exciting thing going these days".

I wonder at what point are portrayals are delving into parody.

[morricone]

Originally posted by Tayzlor
If you edit a whole season of 24 together, with commercials intact, then you may have some takers.
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[Tayzlor]

Originally posted by morricone
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[dman476]

Originally posted by Tayzlor
?
Probably, Morricone is a taker for your wonderful idea! :)