Krav Maga

[Tweek]

How practical is the method for self-defense?

[Tai Mai Jew]

Honestly, any martial art will aid you as a fighter, whether it be for offensive purposes or defensive purposes... and although Krav Maga isn’t the most popular fighting system out there, it aint bad... the Israeli police force and tactical forces uses the system and they seem to be doing fine with it.

My only beef with Krav Maga is that the system only teaches defensive methods, nothing offensive. Though, if you really want to learn how to stop a man from stabbing, shooting, or blowing you up, I suppose this is just for you. If you do end up doing this, expect little or no ground techniques, little or no punching or kicking techniques, and a lot of throwing and disarming techniques.

Hope this helps.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Oh, and I forgot to add that the other side of Krav Maga is pure weapons training.

[Tweek]

thanks muchly.

[martyds761]

I like it. But it is a defensive art that can cause major pain. I took Judo as well to be able to attack if need be.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Are you going to try this MA out, Tweek?

[Tweek]

Maaaaybe.

I'm weighing my different options. It depends on whether or not I can find a good school in my area.

I'm also thinking about Oom Yung Doe/Chung Moe Doe, as it can help people with asthma

[Tai Mai Jew]

Originally posted by Tweek
Maaaaybe.

I'm weighing my different options. It depends on whether or not I can find a good school in my area.

I'm also thinking about Oom Yung Doe/Chung Moe Doe, as it can help people with asthma

Martial arts won't help you with asthma, no matter what kind, only proper medicine and proper physical exercises will do this. It’s like saying a chiropractor can cure cancer... totally ridiculous.

Although I'm not saying ‘don't try them out’... I'm all for the Asian arts, traditional gung fu is cool, but don’t believe disease curing bullshit.

[Scorpio24]

Tweek you're a girl/woman right?

If you are I'd always advise ladies to practise an art that will teach you offence as well as defensive manouvers.

Like Tai has said it's mainly a defensive art and i'm not being sexist but that's fine if you are a strong guy that is able to overpower someone through defensive actions and ending the fight, great. But if you are a lady and you are attacked you're more likely ot be attacked by someone that is stronger than you and it's better to know how to disbale them quickly and efficiently. I hope that's not coming across as assholeish?

I would advise you to take up jui jitsu. It's a hard discipline but extremley worth while. I learnt more and felt more confident in myself after 3 months doing that than I had done in 3 years as a boxer. Tai didn't you study Jui jitsu or Brazillian jui jitsu before? What's you take on it?

[Tai Mai Jew]

It’s hard to say really... I’ve been a jiu-jitsu practitioner for about 6 years now, although I haven’t done much training in three years... I believe you can defend yourself against anybody with some jiu-jitsu, some wrestling, some Muay Thai, and maybe with a little bit of boxing... it can go a long way. Saying, or believing, a single fighting system is superior to another is ALWAYS a false statement/belief; being a good fighter means to gain knowledge, not to deprive yourself of it. Even if your just looking to defend your person against thugs and lowlifes and whatnot, its better to know all elements of the game, rather then one.

I’d recommend a school, or a place, that teaches up game, down game, submissions, good runaway tactics (like, “kick him in the balls, then run away” type stuff), offence, and defense.

[martyds761]

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Martial arts won't help you with asthma, no matter what kind, only proper medicine and proper physical exercises will do this.
It may not cure it, but it can be controlled easier using influences from martial arts. A disease like Asthma will be there, but from being healthy and fit, you might be able to make it "go away". But martial arts can help you with your asthma just by being in better condition.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Nope, you NEED treatment, even if its for minor cases... medicine comes first before anything else, before exercise, anything. Physical exercise keeps your entire respiratory system in shape, including your lungs... without medicine, you aren’t helping anything but the problem.

Physical exercise alone cannot help you with your asthma. As i said before, it's just as ridiculous as a Chiropractor saying he can cure cancer with only a few spinal adjustments.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Martial arts won't help you with asthma, no matter what kind, only proper medicine and proper physical exercises will do this. It’s like saying a chiropractor can cure cancer... totally ridiculous.

Although I'm not saying ‘don't try them out’... I'm all for the Asian arts, traditional gung fu is cool, but don’t believe disease curing bullshit.


I wasn't saying it was going to cure the asthma.
I was saying it'd probably help. difference.
I know of a woman who lost 200 lbs and cut her asthma meds in half after two years practicing oom yung doe.
ANd i'd still be in treatment for it, i wouldn't cut out my meds, that'd be plain dumb of me.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Originally posted by Tweek
I wasn't saying it was going to cure the asthma.
I was saying it'd probably help. difference.
I know of a woman who lost 200 lbs and cut her asthma meds in half after two years practicing oom yung doe.
ANd i'd still be in treatment for it, i wouldn't cut out my meds, that'd be plain dumb of me.

Oh, I agree with you... I was simply just making sure you weren't claiming anything. I just have people telling me how to “cure” diseases all the time, or giving me “testimonials” of people they know whove “cured’ their diseases with some dim mak treatment or whatever. 99% of it all is pure bullshit. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, my bad.

Besides that though, what are your overall objectives? what are you trying to achieve with Martial Arts? Are you just looking for self defense tactics? Maybe I can help a little better if you describe exactly what you're looking for.

[Tweek]

I'm looking for self-defense tactics and to help improve my confidence. I'm completely and hopelessly night blind and I'm too scared to go out in the dark by myself. Because I can't defend myself. I'm more confident in daylight for some reason. -shrug-

[martyds761]

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
medicine comes first before anything else, before exercise, anything. Medicine should be an extra tool to use. Not come first. You remind me of a "pusher". lol I think exercise and life comes first, medicine should just be another weapon in a persons arsenal.

As for the "bullshit" you keep mentioning, I think you need to meet a few people who have "overcome" their disability/disease from strengthening their mind and body. They may still have the disease etc, but it doesn't need the treatment now.

Good luck with it all Tweek.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Originally posted by martyds761
Medicine should be an extra tool to use. Not come first. You remind me of a "pusher". lol I think exercise and life comes first, medicine should just be another weapon in a persons arsenal.

As for the "bullshit" you keep mentioning, I think you need to meet a few people who have "overcome" their disability/disease from strengthening their mind and body. They may still have the disease etc, but it doesn't need the treatment now.

Good luck with it all Tweek.

Listen... i have plenty of disabilities, like a lot of people, and ive tried a lot of shit to help me through it all. I know medicine more then most people, and though I don’t considatr myself an “expert” on the subject, at the same time I dont sound anything like a pusher... thats very fucking insulting, even as a light hearted joke.

I mean, jesus, if what you say is true... then why should cancer patients have go through chemotherapy? Or why should crohn's disease patients have to take steroids?

Even with smaller diseases like asthma: they don’t need inhalers, right?… all they need is a steady diet of yoga. :rolleyes:

yeah right.

All I know is I would have died when I was a kid without medicine... and the majority of EVERYBODY with ANY disease on the ENTIRE planet would die a lot earlier then they would otherwise.

Nobody will ever convince me that medicine doesnt come first. ever.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Originally posted by Tweek
I'm looking for self-defense tactics and to help improve my confidence. I'm completely and hopelessly night blind and I'm too scared to go out in the dark by myself. Because I can't defend myself. I'm more confident in daylight for some reason. -shrug-

well, I dont think there is anything i can do about your blindness, sorry :).

but here’s a list of styles you might enjoy (hopefully I spelt them correctly):

1. Shogerijutsu (ground techniques, throwing, lock and choke submissions)
2. Boxing (a great self-defense method, in any form)
3. Krav Maga (another great self-defense art, throwing, submissions, strike)
4. Sanshou (A lot like Thai boxing, though not as effective)
5. SAMBO (great self-defense art, includes striking, throwing and whatnot)
6. Muay thai (go figure)
7. savate (another form of boxing)
8. Kali/Escrima/Arnis (Filipino styles, includes weapon training)
9. Jujutsu/jiu-jitsu (Brazilian or whatever, ground art)
10. Bando (striking, kicking, throwing, locking)

any of these styles would be a good choice. hope this helps.

[Scorpio24]

That's a good list up above. Any would do you fine. But like I said I really feel that you shoul practise an art that will give you the offensive tools needed to feel confident in yourself to take on and disable an attacker.


AQnd for that reason I believe you should either thake up jui-jitsu or Thai Kick Boxing

[Tweek]

well, I dont think there is anything i can do about your blindness, sorry

grr, i was just explaining..
:o


Thank you kindly for the list

[Tai Mai Jew]

Originally posted by Tweek
grr, i was just explaining..
:o


Thank you kindly for the list

I kid, I kid, tweek... hence the ":)" at the end of it...

and you're welcome, I hope it helps.

[Tweek]

Oh I get it. It's a joke. Jokes are funny.

[Tai Mai Jew]

Here's a demonstration of how Krav Maga works...

link here (youtube.com) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8JId0uphAnc&search=frank%20shamrock)

Actual sparring in Filipino escrima

here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LTZ7rhDyHdk&search=Escrima)

[QUENTIN]

I've been a practitioner of Krav Maga for a little over two years now and I would certainly consider it worthwhile. What Tai said is mostly true, though not entirely. Krav Maga is intended almost purely as an excellent self-DEFENSE method, but to claim it's entirely offenseless is not quite true. The focus is on how to defend yourself in the event of an attack, but using the skills you learn from Krav Maga training, you should certainly be able to pose a formidable offense if need be. Like Scorpio, I want to tread lightly, but if you are a woman, I would doubt you'd be most interested in offensive maneuvering anyway, as it sounds like you're more interested in keeping yourself safe than fighting competitively or getting into bar fights and whatnot. And in that case, I can highly recommend Krav Maga. I do agree with Tai that a combination of several arts will enable you to be most effective defensively and I have a background in wrestling and did some kickboxing in high school, so training in those fields certainly helped improve my overall ability as a close combatant, but if you want to learn the basic skills to defend yourself, try going to a class, talk to the instructor afterward about your personal goals, and see how you like it.

Who your instructor is, as with any martial art, is very important, which is why I suggest talking to him afterward. My instructor back home was in the Israeli special forces and was an excellent teacher, whereas my instructor at college is a former American SWAT officer and his classes focus more on the aerobic element than the combative elements. I was disappointed to find it more like a Tae Bo class than the true Krav Maga classes I'd had earlier.

You should also know, there is no competitive aspect to krav maga, and I know some who consider it "dirty fighting", it is an entirely practical school which is meant to train you for several real life situations in which you may have to be brutal. But if keeping yourself safe is the priority, it's definitely something you should look into.