Lord Of The Rings vs. A Beautiful Mind: Which should have won Best Picture?

[Jerk Shapiro]

My vote goes to LOTR. This movie blows A Beautiful Mind out of the water. The acting, the story, the characters, the epic war battles... I mean, Beautiful Mind was good, but LOTR should have won Best Picture.
No doubt in my mind.

YOU?

[Sylvie]

I enjoyed A Beautiful Mind-it made me think, and Russell Crowe should have won the oscar for it. But a movie like The Lord of the Rings is very special, like The Wizard of Oz and Star Wars-I think it should have won, but the other two I mentioned did not win either, so I wasn't surprised. Long after many of the Best Picture winners are forgotten, The Lord of the Rings will be dearly loved by young and old for ages to come. Besides, maybe Two Towers or Return of the King will win- If they're just as good as Fellowship of the Rings, I will be happy-I CAN'T WAIT!!!

[syxxpac]

Lord of the Rings. That's all I have to say.

[Strider]

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring was fucking screwed... and that's all I got to say about that!

Strider

[Horror whore]

MOULIN ROUGE

[dr.gorman]

My pick was Moulin Rouge but Im glad A Beautiful Mind beat LOTR.

[Arlius]

Out of the five, I would have picked Beautiful Mind.. so I think the right one won. My prediction at the time was that the sort of people who make up the voting members of the Academy would be the sort of people that ABM appealed to more so than LOTR...mostly an older demographic that still appreciates traditional filmmaking...and forget MR! -- it didn't have a chance. Try watching ABM with the director's commentary to fully understand that film.. it's not a big and flashy spectacle with lots of action and effects, so younger viewers tend to dismiss it too quickly as boring. It would not have bothered me at all to see LOTR win for BP... if Crowe could have won for best actor. I might have even prefered that outcome... but like I said, based on who makes up the Academy, ABM was my prediction all along.

[syxxpac]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Arlius:
so younger viewers tend to dismiss it too quickly as boring.
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Hey, I'm young and I found A Beautiful Mind to not be boring at all. In fact, I really liked it, but I just feel that LOTR really should've won. There are a ton of movies that come out each year that use "traditional filmmaking", but I thought that LOTR was a special gem among the usual batch, mixing epic special effects with an engrossing story and endearing characters wonderfully. It's not every day that a movie successfully blends special effects with a great story.

[Hypothermia]

&lt;&lt;&lt;shoots MOVIE-Maniac 8 dead where he stands&gt;&gt;&gt;

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This question is old. The fact that it is being brought out again is pathetic. Then again the fact that a particular movie won an award last March is still being moaned about is...whatever it's past pathetic.

Aren't there any more recent films we can moan about?

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[YF Manson]

I was hoping for the Fellowship of the Ring to win but hopefully The Two Towers will avenge the mistake that was made.

[Tuukka]

I liked A Beautiful Mind (7/10), but despite a superb cast and some witty and original ideas, it felt like the standard TV movie of the week. Too cliched, and a HORRIBLE ending. I was rolling my eyes during the award show and the final speech in the end. I don't think that the movie had some intelligence, but it certainly wasn't deep. It didn't seem to have much to say besides "Love conquers all!". The REAL lifestory of Nash was much more interesting than the washed-up, disloyal, glamorized Hollywood version of it.

FOTR (9/10) had it's flaws, but it's the most ambitious and succesful adventure film of the last 20 years, since Raiders Of The Lost Ark.

[john_doe]

i seem to be the only human being alive who didn't like Lord of the Ring: FOTR. And ABM earned to win because it was a old-fashioned movie with an interesting plot, true or not. But Moulin Rouge was the BEST PICTURE last, period!

[Favourite end]

john_doe, you`re not the only one who thinks LOTR wasn`t good enough to win.I think the same.For me the best picture of the year was Moulin Rouge, although the best director WAS Peter Jackson.

[B-ball Dude]

LORD OF THE RINGS. I hated A BEAUTIFUL MIND.

[CheekyShepherd]

I have not yet seen ABM.

But, my vote will go to Lord Of The Rings, simply for being the film generations have waited decades for.

Peter Jackson was robbed!!

Even had LOTR not won Best Picture. The Best Director gong should have rightfully been PJ's!! I think he put one hundred percent into the vision of LOTR matching everyones expectations.

[Terrell]

Definitely ABM. I donn't even think FOTR was deserving of a Best Pic nomination. Memento should have gotten that nomination in place of LOTR. FOTR is a good film, but certainly not Best Pic in my opinion.

I also would have had no problem with Moulin Rouge winning.

[Jasonite]

Neither of them...Memento should've won Best Picture, and behind it was Vanilla Sky.


Jasonite

[Ed]

the lord of the rings or moulin rouge

[Sylvie]

Concerning A Beautiful Mind's appeal to younger people-It's my 15 year old niece's favorite movie, but I haven't persuaded my daughter to even watch it.

A note to Hypothermia-I'm new here, so I like this topic. So if you've already been there, done that, why don't you just not bother with this thread and start a new topic that appeals to you more?

[Nate6]

Oh, it's the old ABM-LOTR argument again. I give ABM 9/10, LOTR 8/10, that's my two cents.

[Hannibal21]

I loved both movies. But I was really glad that A Beautiful Mind won best picture. I liked it just a little bit more than LOTR because of the acting and how the movie made me feel good and made me think. LOTR: FOTR was an entertaining, fun film but it was a bit long.

[master noam]

I can't imagine anybody NOT loving LOTR: FOTR. It's peffect. ABM was good and Jennifer Connelly deserved to win and Russel Crowe deserved a nomination. But the movie its self and the directing DIDN't.

LOTR is a great movie in its whole and has unbelieveable directing. A truely special film. I savor everything second of it.

[tbone]

The post says Lord of the Rings or A Beautiful Mind. Not Lord of the Rings of A Beautiful Mind or Moulin Rouge. My pick is one of my favorites Lord of the Rings.

[Jason Voorhees]

Lord of the Rings.

[Jasonite]

Originally posted by master noam
I can't imagine anybody NOT loving LOTR: FOTR.



Well then you can start imagining me, because while I can't bring myself to hate this movie, it's certainly one of the most overrated movies of the past 10 years. Coming from someone who's read the trilogy more than once and LOVES the fantasy genre in general, the most I can hope for now is that this movie does for fantasy what Star Wars did for sci-fi...make it acceptable for more movies in this genre to be made.


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[Nate6]

Originally posted by Jasonite
Well then you can start imagining me, because while I can't bring myself to hate this movie, it's certainly one of the most overrated movies of the past 10 years. Coming from someone who's read the trilogy more than once and LOVES the fantasy genre in general, the most I can hope for now is that this movie does for fantasy what Star Wars did for sci-fi...make it acceptable for more movies in this genre to be made.

Same with me. It's still a good film, but the sheer overdone hubris around it has forced me to pull a Quentin and drop my rating from 9/10 to 8/10.

[QUENTIN]

Originally posted by Nate6
but the sheer overdone hubris around it has forced me to pull a Quentin and drop my rating from 9/10 to 8/10.

Hey now! :eek: ...Personally I think Vanilla Sky should have won, and of the nominees In The Bedroom was the best. However of the two options, I'd go with A Beautiful Mind (8/10) over Lord of The Rings (7/10). Both are overrated, but the latter much more so.

[The Professional]

they should have just given the oscar to the first manipulative and melodromatic bullshit film that came along which was supposidly based on a true story, but was lightened up for its audience. oh...wait....

[Annie Hall]

I honestly am put through a bit of a dilemma...I mean, Lord of the Rings was utterly perfect...brilliant, fantasic, splendid. The sets, the acting, the filming...were all perfect. And also, Peter Jackson was able to adapt a classic book to the point of the movie almost exceeding the greatness of the book. Quite an accomplishment.

But, A Beautiful Mind was more "human based" and I could "relate" to it on a more personal level. Howard was able to take a rather awkward and (to me) slightly uninteresting story and make it captivating and interesting. I have yet to read the book, but I found ABM to be an intelligent, personal, brilliantly acted movie.

Moulin Rouge was "spectacular, spectacular" and my personal favorite movie of the year. It's the first decent Musical in years (that was not a "mock musical" like Little Shop of Horrors). The music was expertly adapted, the acting was superb, and the entire "effect" was a flat script brilliantly brought to life.

...so, which should have won? How can you take three such wonderful, yet totally different movies and compare them? I find it to be utterly impossible...had Moulin Rouge won, I would have felt that LOTR and ABM were robbed. And since ABM I felt that Moulin Rouge and LOTR were as well. Therefore, after all of this gushing...my point is: they all deserved it equally.

[Nate6]

Originally posted by QUENTIN
Hey now! :eek: ...Personally I think Vanilla Sky should have won, and of the nominees In The Bedroom was the best. However of the two options, I'd go with A Beautiful Mind (8/10) over Lord of The Rings (7/10). Both are overrated, but the latter much more so.

That wasn't what I was referring to, I suppose I should have been more clear. I meant that when Moulin Rouge! was given such a huge overrate from the general film fan public, you mildly lowered your grade. Indirect reference.

[dr.gorman]

For Mind vs Rings: AMB all the way. I thought the acting was 1000000x times better, the story was more complex and interesting, and it made me feel good (I'm semi-schizorphrenic, but I've learned to control most of it). LOTR IMHO is just overrated crap and Jackson had no right touching the books.

For choice between 5 nominees: Moulin Rouge. The movie blew me away. The acting was great, the sets/costumes/cinematography was beautiful, the music was A+, and the romance of the movie didn't bother me at all (some romances in movies do irritate me)

[notchreturns]

Well, Vanilla Sky was my favorite film of 2001, so yeah, I guess it would be my winner. I'd say Lord of the Rngs was a 7/10 and A Beautiful Mind, 9/10....

[charliebobo]

My favourite movie of 2001 was Amelie. Out of the 5 nominations, In The Bedroom was the best movie, even though I enjoyed ABM more. LOTR is well done but not my kind of movie. However I also think PJ deserved the Oscar, and so did Russell Crowe

[the movie guy]

A Beautiful Mind was nothing special. Nothing at all I thought was worthy of any award. Russell Crowe tried too hard... The more I think of it, the less special Jennifer Connelly's role was... The direction was good, but no real difficult task (like LOTR was, WTF Academy?!). Oooo, Ron Howard shot the film in chronological order! (Waves hands around in sarcasm) SO HARD! I do that with the short films I make! Give ME an Oscar. Sheesh. Anyway... The writing was not good. It was full of stupid, jokey lines, and the story was so altered and fake feeling, so...

LORD OF THE RINGS, BABY! YEAH!