Bush to veto stem-cell research?

[darchangel]

Congress was four votes short of a 2/3 majority...the article also says as much as 70% of Americans approves of stem-cell research...how can he say no to this?


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20060718-1408-stemcells.html



~darchangel~

[free]

Because Jesus wouldn't like it.

[MacReady]

It's like a vegetarian tossing away a giant buffet full of meat when there's an alley full of starving hoboes nearby based on princibles.

[Lynn7]

President Bush is delaying the inevitable. This will end up going thorugh in a few years and then we can all look at this in about 20 years time and see where this has led us. This kind of thing will do us no good. It is a slippery slope that will be rearing its ugly head in the future. The slope will always get slippery. This is a complex issue that many people are taking lightly.

[bigred760]

It's official - he declared he vetoed the legislation at a press conference full of anti-abortion advocates and little children (because as we all know: "Jesus loves the little children"). He talked about advancement of scientific research and methods while still being ethical.

[jeo4]

How disgustingly self-righteous of him.

[someguy]

How will the slope get slippery? I mean, what will we start doing, testing on foreign babies?

[Thrizzle]

The world is being punished by ignorant voters who put this man into office.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Thrizzle
The world is being punished by ignorant voters who put this man into office.

And how many of those do you believe will change their vote in two years? I believe that conservatives are in for a shock.

[outsyder]

Originally posted by jeo4
And how many of those do you believe will change their vote in two years? I believe that conservatives are in for a shock.


It would depend on who is Bush's successor as Republican Presidential candidate.

[someguy]

<post 'captain obvious' picture>

All this vetoing stuff is just for the midterms. Notice now flag burning, immigration, gay marriage and stem cell research are being brought up again right before the elections. Looks like Bush and co. want to pander to the religious right again, hopefully it won't work this time.

[Thrizzle]

Originally posted by jeo4
And how many of those do you believe will change their vote in two years? I believe that conservatives are in for a shock.

Honestly its anyone's guess, because lets not forget, Bush got re-elected which to me was absolutely astonishing.

This is all presuming that previous and future elections are legit.

[The Postmaster General]

"Federal agents in Northern Utah raid a stem cell research factory working out of a mobile park home, film at 11."

[darchangel]

Originally posted by Lynn7
President Bush is delaying the inevitable. This will end up going thorugh in a few years and then we can all look at this in about 20 years time and see where this has led us. This kind of thing will do us no good. It is a slippery slope that will be rearing its ugly head in the future. The slope will always get slippery. This is a complex issue that many people are taking lightly.


Care to elaborate?



~darchangel~

[electriclite]

There's nothing light about this issue. Its all about life.

On one side, you have those who are concerned about hypothetical/potential human lives and on the other you have those concerned about lives actually being lived and that are suffering.

I say that if people have their eggs harvested and get a kid out of it, whatever they decide to do with what's left behind should be the final word. Anyone who tries to override or abuse this, be it a doctor or the government, for whatever interest, is in the wrong.

[echo_bravo]

But who wants to see Michael J. Fox sucking the guts out of an aborted fetus? I mean didnt we learn anything from the Christopher Reeves debacle?!





















I am only kidding. I watch way too much Southpark.

Wrong move on G.W's part to veto this.

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
Wrong move on G.W's part to veto this.

I think he has a Rick James complex.

"I'm The President, bitch!"

[Vong]

I'd hope for something like this to be voted on by the public, and then I keep remembering that half of America voted for Bush.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Vong
I'd hope for something like this to be voted on by the public, and then I keep remembering that half of America voted for Bush.

Nope. Not even close. 58 million Americans voted for Bush, compared to some 300 million who live here. Assuming 2/3 qualify for voting (after eliminating minors, felons and immigrants not registered to vote as of yet), not even half the country voted. And of those, a deplorable 19 percent of voters aged 18 to 24 voted.

[MacReady]

Before passing the bill, the Senate unanimously approved two other measures intended to give Bush stem cell-related legislation that he would be willing to sign. Republicans hope it will soften the political impact of vetoing a measure backed by prominent Republicans including Nancy Reagan and conservative Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (Utah).

The first of those measures would ban the creation of human fetuses solely for the purpose of harvesting body parts, and the second would encourage research into creating stem cell lines without destroying human embryos.

So much for Lynn's slipper slope argument.

[Vong]

Originally posted by jeo4
Nope. Not even close. 58 million Americans voted for Bush, compared to some 300 million who live here. Assuming 2/3 qualify for voting (after eliminating minors, felons and immigrants not registered to vote as of yet), not even half the country voted. And of those, a deplorable 19 percent of voters aged 18 to 24 voted.

Sorry, I should have said that half of the Americans that could/did vote in the 2004 elections, voted for Bush.

[<3mekthx]

Notice now flag burning, immigration, gay marriage and stem cell research are being brought up again right before the elections.

I actually think that Kennedy was the one pushing for this stem cell research funding to come to a vote.

I think that its absolutely ridiculous that this is how Bush exercises his first veto of his presidency.

[JohnTheHenchman]

I am not religious. That being said, I agree with this veto. Why should everything under the sun be federally funded?

[someguy]

You're looking at things financially, whereas Bush vetoed for moral reasons.

[The Postmaster General]

I think there's a lot of things that the federal government shouldn't fund, but looking for cures to diseases isn't one of those things.

[jeo4]

Originally posted by Vong
Sorry, I should have said that half of the Americans that could/did vote in the 2004 elections, voted for Bush.

Scratch out the word "could" and this statement is accurate.