"X-Men 4" Already In The Works!

[ElderPredator]

Hey everybody,

How many of you strongly felt that it wouldn't end at "X-Men 3"? I knew they wouldn't stop and for all of you who felt the same way, we were exactly right. According to Lauren Shuller Donner, negotiations are already underway to bring back the original cast for the 4th film. As well according to Donner, the new cast members of "X3" such as Ellen Page, Ben Foster and others were already signed on for another sequel so this has been known for a long time that there would be a 4th movie. The only real obstacle of this however is that in the renegotiations, the actors could ask for a big chunk of money so it's unclear what will happen. I really hope they come to an agreement and make a 4th as I want the series to continue further.

It's not sure whethere "Wolverine" or "Magneto" will come before or after the film but it is now in the machine and is starting to grow. Only time will tell before we hear official news of the film starting. I really hope but highly doubt that Bryan Singer will return to direct the 4th as he may have the "Superman" sequel to deal with. Tough call but we'll have to wait and see.

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What do you all think?

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[Shockwave]

..im thinking Singer should have never left.

..and with the Supes sequel in question, he might be as well.:)

[DarkKnight81]

I knew all along that the Last Stand was just for the current generation of X-Men. I think if Brian Singer comes back they might be able to get some of the big actors back. I'd prefer that they focus on some new characters and the already established younger X-Men such as Iceman, Collosus, Kitty Pride, Rogue (you know she's coming back) and on the the Brotherhood side keep Juggernaut(maybe get him a real costume this time), Pyro (if he's alive) and maybe an old, weakened Magneto so he's not so untouchable this time and bring in Mr. Sinister as a stronger new leader of the brotherhood. Then along comes a troubled young mutant by the name of Remy LeBeau. And we know where that goes with Rogue. Angel should turn to the Archangel and join the brotherhood. Beast should be the new leader of the X-Men with Professor X gone and presumably Storm and Wolverine gone. The third piece of the triangle could be to bring back Bill Duke to create an army of Sentinels to hunt down and kill both the X-Men and the Brotherhood. Set this all up for an X-Men 5 where Bishop and Cable come back from the future to help the X-Men fight Apocolypse. Thats just my 2 cents.

[cocksmokinclerk]

i guess i'd be for this

[Jig Saw 666]

Hopefully Brett Ratner doesnt direct X-men 3 was the worst of the three. And I hope this one is darker and I hope Apocalypse and the how he trys to get The Twelve.

[Cronos]

X3 was a huge surprise so im all for another film and if they were to bring Singer back i would be even more excited (although i hope he gets to do a Superman sequel)

[Thrizzle]

Aside from Jackman, who really cares if the other big name stars dont come back? An X-Men movie with Angel, Collossus, Gambit, Ice-man, etc would still be kickass.

[jolanar]

X3 killed the franchise. Not because it was a bad movie, just because of the plot.

[William Munny]

Originally posted by Shockwave
..im thinking Singer should have never left.

..and with the Supes sequel in question, he might be as well.:)

Yep, Singer's a moron.

While I'm not a huge fan of the X-Men to begin with, I do believe that Singer was building up to a spectacular climax following his strong work with "X2". It's a shame that he traded that climax for a shot at resurrecting "Superman", as it's now clear that he dicked that up royally. In effect, the fool ruined not one but TWO franchises.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
Hopefully Brett Ratner doesnt direct X-men 3 was the worst of the three.

It's not all Ratner's fault. he did an excellent job given the piece of shit of a script that he was given. i think if we got a stronger script this time, Ratner could actually get his chance do it right....

I don't think trying, and i do mean "trying," to do Apocalypse is a good idea. it's just too huge of a storyline. there are a lot of other great X-men story arcs that would be more suitable....

[William Munny]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
It's not all Ratner's fault. he did an excellent job given the piece of shit of a script that he was given. i think if we got a stronger script this time, Ratner could actually get his chance do it right....

For what it was, I liked "X3", and I commend Ratner for swiftly wiping up the mess left behind by Bryan Singer.

[ElderPredator]

I feel the same way, Ratner did an amazing job for what he was given. It was Fox's fault that the movie was so friggin' rushed and wasn't as good as it could have been. I still loved the movie though and can't wait to own it.

[ilovemovies]

Instead of X-Men 4, I wish they would remake X3.

X3 is the most frustrating movie of the year because it could have been so great. It could have been so awsome. Instead, it was merely adequate. And the so called final showdown was a complete joke. That wasn't a war. It was a minor friggin' battle.

What sucks is that because of X3, Famke Janssen and James Marsden can't come back. And Patrick Stewart probably wouldn't be able to come back either. I mean, his voice would be back I guess, but wouldn't it be another body?

[bowieee]

Storm has got to go.

Halle Berry's pretentiousness over the whole affair really irritated me. Part 3 was a joke and hopefully the powers that be realize that and will try to bring the films back to the level of entertainment they once were.

[soda]

few things:

1) obviously there will be an X4, you don't make 120+ million opening weekend, and call it a triology, not in Hollywood, you milk that cash cow till there's nothing left to milk it for.

2) Ratner was a horrible choice to direct, but IMHO, the real villians in this situation were Fox. I would hope that neither would be involved with X4. I'd like to see Marvel hire Joss Wheddon (after he's done making Wonder Woman) to make X4, he'd be my first pick, and Marvel has an excellent relationship with Wheddon. You know what would kick ass? Wheddon, Brubaker and Claremont co-writing a script, the three finest x-writers of my generation, together, on one script.

Or how about this for a total dark-horse shot. How about Richard Donner directing X4. Know how Marvel could get an appointment with Donner? Call Marvel Employee, and current Wolverine writer, Jeph Loeb, who shares an LA office with DC head writer Geoff Johns, and have Johns give his buddy Richard Donner a call (Johns and Donner are working together on Action). I just hope they can get somebody good to write and direct X4, the franchise needs a pick me up.

3) The Bryan Singer bridge has been burned, and he's not coming back. Singer still has a run coming up on Ultimate x-men (do you guys realize what a golden age it is to be an x-fan? Brubaker on Uncanny, Wheddon on Astonishing, and Singer on Ultimate?) That train left the station a long time ago, deal with it.

[Shockwave]

Ill also chime in that i think Ratner did an amazing job with what he had to work with. The movie was rushed to hell and back, and still managed to be 100 times more entertaining then Superman turned out to be.

If anyone is to blame for X3, its FOX. They love to fuck themsleves up on alot of thier own major franchises.

Everyone could come back, since it looks like "the cure" isnt lasting.

...even Cyclops could have easily survived since his body was never shown. I bet they find him wandering around, powerless, and with no memory of who he is in the middle of alaska or something. It IS a comic book movie after all.

No dead body means they are still alive. (not that dying ever stoped anyone from returning in the comics!)

That being said, i could easily go for Beast, Storm, and Wolverine being the heads of the school. Maybe bring in another head master like Forge or something to help out. It could work.

[soda]

Originally posted by Shockwave
Ill also chime in that i think Ratner did an amazing job with what he had to work with. The movie was rushed to hell and back, and still managed to be 100 times more entertaining then Superman turned out to be.


I thought the exact opposite, I thought Superman was a 100x the better of the two movies, but that Superman was a far from perfect film. Just goes to show how much I disliked X3. To each his own, though.

Originally posted by Shockwave


Everyone could come back, since it looks like "the cure" isnt lasting.

...even Cyclops could have easily survived since his body was never shown. I bet they find him wandering around, powerless, and with no memory of who he is in the middle of alaska or something. It IS a comic book movie after all.

No dead body means they are still alive. (not that dying ever stoped anyone from returning in the comics!)


That is 100% true, Recently, at a convention, Dan Didio, exec VP of DC comics was asked about the character Aztek, his reply was:

"dead, but getting better."

Translation: he's dead, right now, but he'll be back, and sooner rather than later. In comics, there are only three states of being:

Alive.

Dead, but getting better, followed by "I got better"

Thomas and Martha Wayne, John and Mary Grayson, Jor-el, and Uncle Ben. The "deads and never coming back because their death was crucial to the heroe's story".

Up until a year ago, I would have said Bucky and Jason Todd were in that last category, as I would have said Norman Osbourne was years ago, but they all got better / got back from Europe / was resurrected due to a Superboy Prime Retcon Punch.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by soda
Up until a year ago, I would have said Bucky and Jason Todd were in that last category, as I would have said Norman Osbourne was years ago, but they all got better / got back from Europe / was resurrected due to a Superboy Prime Retcon Punch.

the Normon Osbourne return was expected, but Jason Todd and Bucky?? that shit didn't sit well with me. i mean, even though The Winter Soldier and The Red Hood are both cool characters, it still seemed unnessecary....

[Terror Australis]

Oh please X-Men: The Last Stand is not the worst film of the year (leave that to Date Movie (1/5). Burrr....).

Personally I loved it. Alright it may not have been up with the first two films. Also may lack a bit of the "depth" and some of the new (and some old) characters aren't developed enough but dammit I had a blast with it and I never had good time in the cinema for a long time after I was watching this film. I think that Brett Ratner did a solid job from were Bryan Singer left (even thoe it did feel rushed but it never botherd me). The action great and plot had my interest through out. I can understand people were disappointed but I took for what it was and that is why I enjoyed it.

My rating:

X-Men: The Last Stand - 4.5/5

(The other two "X-Men" films I both gave 5)

[bigred760]

The story and its execution were poorly done as far as I'm concerned. If there is a fourth, than the plot needs to be better and handled better as well. The special effects were fine and the action sequences awesome. But if they're making a fourth X-Men, they most definitely need Hugh Jackman back; if not, than it won't be worth a damn.

[DarkKnight81]

I'm a huge X-Men fan, my second favorite just after Batman, so I hope they get their shit together and get this done in about 3 years. Can Marvel take the rights back from Fox and make it through their own production company? I know everybody loves Wolverine and he has carried the first three movies along with Ian McKellan, but I think its time to move on. The Wolverine character just demands too much screen time and while he is still around nobody else will get a chance to shine. Bring in a "name" to play Gambit and make him the new antihero. The only way I see Mardsen coming back is if Singer came back and I dont think thats happening. Halle Berry can keep her ass at home, we dont need her whining.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
The only way I see Mardsen coming back is if Singer came back and I dont think thats happening. Halle Berry can keep her ass at home, we dont need her whining.

How in the world would Cyclops be coming back?

And I agree with the Halle statement.

[DarkKnight81]

I have no idea, people had mentioned that you never saw his body. I of course assumed he disinigrated like Prof. X and all the other people The Pheonix killed. While I dont think they'd ever bring him back I do think his character was by far the most underused.

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
I have no idea, people had mentioned that you never saw his body. I of course assumed he disinigrated like Prof. X and all the other people The Pheonix killed. While I dont think they'd ever bring him back I do think his character was by far the most underused.

They were all dissolved into another dimension!!

[blankpage]

While I didn't hate The Last Stand by any means, compared to the other two flicks, which I really loved, I think they took a few steps back. Mainly because the whole film so was rushed, and just didn't have that emotional impact and excitememnt the first two had. I wouldn't say it killed the franchise, but I think a lot of people are gonna be expecting some really exceptional if they plan to make a 4th. I have no doubt people are gonna go see it, and with all the freakin' cash they made with the last one, I'm not surprised the studio wants to move forward. I'm game for a 4th, but I fall into that category of people who are going to be expecting something really exceptional this time around.

[Robot]

The first time I saw X3 I didn't leave the theater disappointed or bothered by anything on screen. The next viewing when the shock and awe of all that was happening wore off, the reality of the film set it and just how displaced most of it was.

Mystique being turned human after 2 small fight scenes?

Professor X being torn apart by his beloved Jean while she turns into something that resembles a creature from Ghostbusters?

Wolverine looks like he hadn't slept in weeks and been out drinking and forget to keep up his beard.

Kitty Pryde and Iceman being focused on while Rogue goes and gets the magic shot?

Hey. Let's get rid of Cyclops within the first 10 minutes.

Hey. Let's give storm a lot of screentime, who cares how had of casting it is!

Let's use Angel in the movie enough to add him to the trailer but not enough for anyone to really care about his character.

If X4 can make up for these mistakes/problems, I'll gladly welcome the film.

[Bm0ney]

/sighs/

Well, sequels and making money are what make Hollyweird tick. So a sequel isn't out of the picture IMO. I like the idea (above) of giving it to Joss Whedon - but time will tell.

X3 was just tragic and the only thing missing was Chris Tucker. I can only hope the next one does better.

[Shockwave]

Id just name it "NEW MUTANTS" or "X-FORCE" and make it about the kids anyway.

Bring in Cannonball, Wolfs Bane, ect,ect, keep Rouge, Iceman, Kitty and Collusus. Maybe throw in a young Gambit..

Just keep Storm, Beast, and Wolverine as School heads and u have a movie.