Okay, he's your dad, that's great, now SHUT UP, Michael Douglas!

[bankholdup]

http://www.rp-online.de/layout/showbilder/5191-041210_kirk_michael.jpg
"This legend belongs to me, now back off!"

There's nothing wrong with respecting and loving your father, but when it seems like that's all you talk about, you sound creepy and obsessed.

Michael even has one of those short presentations they have before movies on TCM, dedicated to sucking his father's cock...not literally. "My father did this, did that, showed me the ropes, wasn't appreciated as much as he should have been, blah blah blah. Where's the man's Oscar? He's my father, by the way."

He's also the reason you have a name in the film industry, by the way. And I don't mean that as a compliment, daddy's boy. Should I mention "Cuckoo's Nest", or should I mention the stage play, Summer Tree, where Michael was fired, and Kirk had to save his ass, bought the rights to the film version, and had Michael star?

Now, I haven't seen their 2005 HBO special "A Father...A Son...Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810861/), but is it safe for me to assume that it's Michael kissing Kirk's ass, while Kirk (slowly, but surely) makes a wisecrack? Nothing against Kirk, per-se, but these two seem to be so one-note with one another, and that note is quite sour by now.

And when Kirk had the knee-replacement at an older age, Michael says this: "Every statistic shows at his age that he should not be having his knees replaced. He did it, and he's recovering faster than anybody ever anticipated. I just think that's an inherent quality of what makes him kind of special."...huh? Special? I don't know if I buy that, but okay...

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040116/040116_douglas_hmed_2p.hmedium.jpg
"Look at him and I'll sock you! Don't look at him and I'll sock you!"

And in newer news, reported at IMDb.com, there is a short article about how Douglas was disgraced with how Wonder Boys was received when it came out in 2000. He says, "Wonder Boys was a huge disappointment personally. I loved the movie and we didn't even get critically acknowledged as far as awards go. I thought it was a f**king disgrace. I'll be honest - it really hurt my confidence. It was a punch in the gut. In fact it was my father who helped me through it. His favorite movie is Lonely Are The Brave. Nobody saw that when it came out, nobody's seen it since. My father's disappointment in that movie helped me get over mine."
There's nothing wrong with going to your father for advice, but come on, Michael! Michael is throwing in boo-hooing over people not seeing this apparently not-to-be-missed performance (note: haven't seen it, could be seen as an unfair comment on my part) which seems absolutely unnecessary to me.

I mean, is there something phenominal about their relationship that I am missing here? Am I accusing Michael of acting more like an ass-kissing biographer than a son? Perhaps.

I don't expect this rant to go over extremely well with many Schmoes, perhaps because of my "evidence that makes little sense", but for those that have witnessed this ass-kissing way too much, like myself, well, join in!

[thedudeman69]

Some stars are using their parent's stardom as a springboard to jump start their career, They also sometimes use it to FURTHER their career. I find that stupid. Micheal Douglas does kiss his dad's ass a bit too much, but we all do sometimes. I mean, they are our parents, we do have shower them in a good light and all, but I think some people can take it too far and just take it to a creepy level. Sounds like that Michael Douglas uses his father as a point when something fails, he has his dad pick up the pieces. I mean, I don't think it is healthy to have a dependncy on a person like that. I mean, Micheal doesn't really have that much of a impressive resume. I mean, he was good in War of The Roses, Wall Street. That is all I can think of where he impressed me. Seems like he is kinda attaching to his dad and milking his dad for what he is worthy. But, that is just me.

[echo_bravo]

M. Douglas did kick so much ass in The Game though. As well as Wallstreet, Fatal Attraction, Basic Instinct, Falling Down, Traffic, and Wonder Boys...plus he is banging Catherine Zeta-Jones.

He is okay in my book.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Yeah, the man owes his success to his father, so does the president.

I don't get it, what the hell is wrong with what he's doing? Kirk Douglas is in his nineties, Michael might as well show him as much gratitude as he can before it's too late.

[JurassicMik]

So what, he loves his dad. Michael Douglas kicks ass, Kirk Douglas kicks ass. End of story.

[Scorpio24]

This is right up there with the other rants people just aim at celebs because they have nothing better to do or say.

Michael Dougals and his father had a very strained relationship when he was younger. He's on record as saying that they both felt like they had to start again when he got older to make up for the lost time.

Fuck me he's showing his dad gratitude and love before he's gone and people got something bad to say about it.

It's really no surprise though. Got to keep the hate running strong.

[bankholdup]

It's not that he does it, it's the way he does it. At least two specials...SPECIALS! The TCM one is almost sickening. I said it myself more than once that there's nothing wrong with showing gratitude, or appreciation, but the way Michael Douglas does it practically exploits that he is the son of Kirk Douglas.

[BorderEevilIII]

Wouldn't you be raving about your dear ol dad 24/7?!?!?
Lets assume that Mike is just protective of him 200% more since he suffered a stroke which imapred his speech ability but still dad is still human and not glass china. He is not goin to break if you let go. I say be alert on your toes if he is in present company. GIve dad some space......JEEZ:rolleyes:

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by bankholdup
It's not that he does it, it's the way he does it. At least two specials...SPECIALS! The TCM one is almost sickening. I said it myself more than once that there's nothing wrong with showing gratitude, or appreciation, but the way Michael Douglas does it practically exploits that he is the son of Kirk Douglas.


I really fail to see how you can make this your main point.

Serioulsy Douglas Junior is more than a little succesfull himself these days. He has no need or no reason to try and trade off his old mans reputation. He has built a great one himself by doing stella work in front of and behind the camera.

No matter hom much love he shows his old man or (as you say) bring to everyone's attention that he is Kirk's son it would make no difference to his career at this point. NONE!

Also you complaint about the TCM special. Did either of the Douglas boys produce it? If not no matter how sickening it was no blame can be attached to them to how the end product came off.

[Euclid]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
This is right up there with the other rants people just aim at celebs because they have nothing better to do or say.

Michael Dougals and his father had a very strained relationship when he was younger. He's on record as saying that they both felt like they had to start again when he got older to make up for the lost time.

Fuck me he's showing his dad gratitude and love before he's gone and people got something bad to say about it.

It's really no surprise though. Got to keep the hate running strong.

Could not have said it any better.

[bankholdup]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Also you complaint about the TCM special. Did either of the Douglas boys produce it? If not no matter how sickening it was no blame can be attached to them to how the end product came off.

Of course there can! What Michael Douglas says and how he ass-kisses non-stop is what caused the end product to be so absurd, and borderline embarassing. It seems Michael doesn't know how to speak about his father without wanting to give him a blowjob.

And as Border said (whether he's being sarcastic or not, can't tell), give the man some room! He, physically or emotionally, I fairly assume, is not made of glass. I mean, come on, he recovered from knee surgery!

[BorderEevilIII]

Originally posted by bankholdup

And as Border said (whether he's being sarcastic or not, can't tell), give the man some room! He, physically or emotionally, I fairly assume, is not made of glass. I mean, come on, he recovered from knee surgery!





Sarcastic?




GASP!



*slaps holdup for that suggestion*

[Scorpio24]

Ahh i see. So I can take it from your reply that you have no argument any more with the fact that you're original point about him hanging on his fathers reputation is now mute right?

And this new argument is you saying that Douglas shows his old man to much love. In fact it's embaressing right?

Christ man your warped hatred for the man is more fucking embaressing than what you are on about. The man shows his (lets be honest) close to death father all the love he can and its to much for you.

What crap. You're first argument was Michael trades off his fathers reputation by showing him so much love and now your argument is his show of love is embarresing. Sure. SURE!!!!!!!

They don't put out the edit. Prehaps you should think about that. No matter if he called his father a cunt in front of the cameras an editor could still make it look like theres nothing but love to give.


This rant is rediculous for the reasons YOU have mentioned.

[AWP82]

Scorpio, you remind me of Bubba sometimes. You're one of those few people in the world who are funny when they seem annoyed. Funny in a way that you feel their pain and can tell they're holding back (or trying to). I wish I could pull that off. Something about it tickles me like hell. :p

I swear it's NOT an insult. It's kind of endearing in a way because it goes to show that jokesters like you are human too....

Uhh....hmm..........I don't really know where I was going with that. Sorry man. Just talking out of my ass. I'll shut up now before it all backfires. :D

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by AWP82
Scorpio, you remind me of Bubba sometimes. You're one of those few people in the world who are funny when they seem annoyed. Funny in a way that you feel their pain and can tell they're holding back (or trying to). I wish I could pull that off. Something about it tickles me like hell. :p

Same applies to Heart Collector.

[Scorpio24]

:D

Like Bubba? Well some days thats a compliment while others it means I have the munchies. ;)

Yeah I get what you mean. And you're right about what you said. I mean I rant about shit myself on times but usulay harmless thinmgs that I don't really care about. But when you rant about showing you're old man love?...........ya know?

[AWP82]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
:D

Like Bubba? Well some days thats a compliment while others it means I have the munchies. ;)

Yeah I get what you mean. And you're right about what you said. I mean I rant about shit myself on times but usulay harmless thinmgs that I don't really care about. But when you rant about showing you're old man love?...........ya know?

Hey, don't worry....you're not that old. You've only got 3 years on me.

But yeah, I rant about dumb shit too. The only difference is I DO care about the dumb shit I rant about, and that just reflects how dumb I am. And when I'm truly annoyed/mad, I don't pull off being funny that well.

I'll tell you what I'm talented at......making off-topic posts like this one, and coming off like an attention whore. It's pathetic...

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Same applies to Heart Collector.

Heart Collector is funny period. I'm not sure he holds anything back.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by AWP82
Heart Collector is funny period. I'm not sure he holds anything back.


True, I suppose.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by AWP82


I'll tell you what I'm talented at......making off-topic posts like this one, and coming off like an attention whore. It's pathetic...





Haha. I'm sure people will forgive you.

[bankholdup]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Ahh i see. So I can take it from your reply that you have no argument any more with the fact that you're original point about him hanging on his fathers reputation is now mute right?


First off, it's really hard to understand what you're saying the way you're delivering your words. But if I understand it correctly...
...
And that wasn't my original point at all. Pay attention to what I write, okay, cause it's sort of important here. I said he is where he is today because of him, not that he hangs onto his father's reputation...god I hope I'm understanding all this. And I stick by that quite firmly. But I in no way made it my original/only "argument" (statement, is more like it) that Michael Douglas is a leech. Please read the original rant to fully understand all my points.


Christ man your warped hatred for the man is more fucking embaressing than what you are on about. The man shows his (lets be honest) close to death father all the love he can and its to much for you.

It's not the fact he shows the love, okay? Jesus...it is that he EXPLOITS it more than anything! That is wrong! I said a million times that it's not that he does it, but the WAY he does it. There is a world of difference between a son saying "I love my father. He's done alot for me." and appearing in specials, and in interviews with constant ass-kissing and cute little smiles.


What crap. You're first argument was Michael trades off his fathers reputation by showing him so much love and now your argument is his show of love is embarresing. Sure. SURE!!!!!!!

No no no no no. My first post was how he shows this love of his father in a shameful way. I haven't changed my argument, I've simply added on to it.

PS--there is so much more to my rant that you care to mention or open your eyes to.

You seemed to have missed the entire point. Let me sum up the point of my rant. Michael Douglas has his career because of his father. It's not the fact that he shows love, it is HOW he shows his love. It appears as though it is all he talks about, and quite obsessively. He also boo-hoos about what his father hasn't won, and goes to cling to him after someone doesn't appreciate himself (Michael). He also makes his father to be the biggest warrior since...Spartacus! I wonder if Michael Douglas admires anyone else other than the great Kirk Douglas.


They don't put out the edit. Prehaps you should think about that. No matter if he called his father a cunt in front of the cameras an editor could still make it look like theres nothing but love to give.

I don't know if I care to believe that silly statement. Editing can manipulate alot, but Michael himself has said the words on plenty of occasions, so I think that supports my argument in this instance.


This rant is rediculous for the reasons YOU have mentioned.

I'm going to disagree, naturally.

[APzombie]

Interesting read Bank.

I think its safe to say Michael could never get a reservation at Dorsio without pops.

[bankholdup]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
...But when you rant about showing you're old man love?...........ya know?

Unbelievable. I really hope you understand the rant more after my latest post. Otherwise, you're putting up an argument about, well, something different and it's not worth the time.

[AWP82]

Hmmm.....now I'm thinking I misread that "showing your old man love" line. I thought Scorpio was referring to my ass-kissing of him and Bubba who are both older than me (as in me showing them love, or something). :confused:

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by bankholdup

There's nothing wrong with respecting and loving your father, but when it seems like that's all you talk about, you sound creepy and obsessed.

Michael even has one of those short presentations they have before movies on TCM, dedicated to sucking his father's cock...not literally. "My father did this, did that, showed me the ropes, wasn't appreciated as much as he should have been, blah blah blah. Where's the man's Oscar? He's my father, by the way."

Lets start at the beginning of this WONDEFULL rant then.

Define obsessed? He dotes on his father and he's obsessed? Bullshit.

So they have a fucking presentation? So fucking what? He says his father showed him the way and the ropes. Again big fucking deal. Please explain why this is a problem for you?


COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PERFECT FATHER SON RELATIONSHIP PLEASE!




He's also the reason you have a name in the film industry, by the way. And I don't mean that as a compliment, daddy's boy. Should I mention "Cuckoo's Nest", or should I mention the stage play, Summer Tree, where Michael was fired, and Kirk had to save his ass, bought the rights to the film version, and had Michael star? .


Um no. THE reason? Let me repeat it for you son. UM NO!! Did he help him break in? Well gee yeah I guess he might have. The fact that Michael Douglas is a great actor and a fantatsic producer is of no interest to you though is it? Because that wouldn't agree with you're rediculous arguments.


Now, I haven't seen their 2005 HBO special "A Father...A Son...Once Upon A Time in Hollywood" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810861/), but is it safe for me to assume that it's Michael kissing Kirk's ass, while Kirk (slowly, but surely) makes a wisecrack? Nothing against Kirk, per-se, but these two seem to be so one-note with one another, and that note is quite sour by now.

Oh wait so this argument is about the fact that they shared a joke. Pathetic. Oh and I like the way you dropped in (slowly but surely) as if we should hold that agianst them to.




And when Kirk had the knee-replacement at an older age, Michael says this: "Every statistic shows at his age that he should not be having his knees replaced. He did it, and he's recovering faster than anybody ever anticipated. I just think that's an inherent quality of what makes him kind of special."...huh? Special? I don't know if I buy that, but okay...

What have we here?

Yet another brilliant argument. Douglas gives his father some kudos and tries to talk his old man up and we have something else we can attack him on. Sad.





And in newer news, reported at IMDb.com, there is a short article about how Douglas was disgraced with how Wonder Boys was received when it came out in 2000. He says, "Wonder Boys was a huge disappointment personally. I loved the movie and we didn't even get critically acknowledged as far as awards go. I thought it was a f**king disgrace. I'll be honest - it really hurt my confidence. It was a punch in the gut. In fact it was my father who helped me through it. His favorite movie is Lonely Are The Brave. Nobody saw that when it came out, nobody's seen it since. My father's disappointment in that movie helped me get over mine."
There's nothing wrong with going to your father for advice, but come on, Michael! Michael is throwing in boo-hooing over people not seeing this apparently not-to-be-missed performance (note: haven't seen it, could be seen as an unfair comment on my part) which seems absolutely unnecessary to me.

So what's the big deal here? He was gutted his favourite film which was brilliant by the way wasn't accepted liked he hoped? Fuck it add it to the list. BRING ON THE HATRED!!!!!!!!




I mean, is there something phenominal about their relationship that I am missing here? Am I accusing Michael of acting more like an ass-kissing biographer than a son? Perhaps.

No just something phenominal about your inability to believe that he loves his father. It's fucking berserk I know???


I don't expect this rant to go over extremely well with many Schmoes, perhaps because of my "evidence that makes little sense", but for those that have witnessed this ass-kissing way too much, like myself, well, join in!


The only part of the rant I agreed with.



So lets clarify. Michael owes his entire career to his father. He is as you said THE REASON he has on.

Um no.

Also he loves his father - Thats a problem
He boasts about his father - Thats a problem
He gts support from his father - Thats a problem

Also you have said:


It's not the fact he shows the love, okay? Jesus...it is that he EXPLOITS it more than anything! That is wrong! I said a million times that it's not that he does it, but the WAY he does it.


Could you show me where you said this a million times. Because I can't see it. Me thinks you just added this to make it look like you had/have a point.



PS--there is so much more to my rant that you care to mention or open your eyes to.

No there's not.


I don't know if I care to believe that silly statement. Editing can manipulate alot, but Michael himself has said the words on plenty of occasions, so I think that supports my argument in this instance.

No it does not.


I don't know what else to say. Everything you have said is either rediculously overblown or tainted with extreme bias. You have nothing but opinions tainted with strange hatred of a father son relationship.

Also about this whole exploitation angle you've got going. There is nothing to exploit. Michael won't get anything out of showing the world how much he loves his father. Open you're eyes.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by AWP82
Hmmm.....now I'm thinking I misread that "showing your old man love" line. I thought Scorpio was referring to my ass-kissing of him and Bubba who are both older than me (as in me showing them love, or something). :confused:

Yeah I was just to kind to point it out.

:D

[Scorpio24]

Ooops

[AWP82]

The sexual tension between you guys is killing me. HIT THAT SHIT ALREADY, BOTH OF YOU!

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by AWP82
The sexual tension between you guys is killing me. HIT THAT SHIT ALREADY, BOTH OF YOU!

Are you sure you're not mis reading shit again.

;)

[AWP82]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Are you sure you're not mis reading shit again.

;)

Umm, I think I'll just leave that open to interpretation. ;)

Honestly, I don't know anymore. My brain's numb.

[bankholdup]

Um no. THE reason? Let me repeat it for you son. UM NO!! Did he help him break in? Well gee yeah I guess he might have. The fact that Michael Douglas is a great actor and a fantatsic producer is of no interest to you though is it? Because that wouldn't agree with you're rediculous arguments.

The fact that you insist that what I am saying is strictly opinion (despite my having proof of Michael Douglas' over-gloating ways) is sort of hypocritical, don'cha think? Who says Douglas is a great actor and a fantastic producer? Many people, perhaps...but strictly opinion.


Yet another brilliant argument. Douglas gives his father some kudos and tries to talk his old man up and we have something else we can attack him on. Sad.

"Some" is not the word for the amount of kudos he splooges onto his father's lap.


No just something phenominal about your inability to believe that he loves his father. It's fucking berserk I know???

Beyond this post, I hope to completely stop arguing with you, seeing as how you're missing the point STILL. I don't have an inability to believe he loves his father. I KNOW HE DOES!, and that's part of the rant. It is how he displays this...wow.


So lets clarify. Michael owes his entire career to his father. He is as you said THE REASON he has on.

Um no.

Also he loves his father - Thats a problem
He boasts about his father - Thats a problem
He gts support from his father - Thats a problem

You are putting my "arguments" into their simplest forms, refusing to look beneath any sort of surface. I didn't say it's the problem that he loves/boasts about his father. For the hundredth time! It is the way he--forget it, not worth it.


Could you show me where you said this a million times. Because I can't see it. Me thinks you just added this to make it look like you had/have a point.

Gladly.

There's nothing wrong with respecting and loving your father, but when it seems like that's all you talk about, you sound creepy and obsessed. <---opening paragraph to first entry

There's nothing wrong with going to your father for advice, but come on, Michael! Michael is throwing in boo-hooing over people <---paragraph after 2nd picture of the Douglas boys

And look at this:

It's not that he does it, it's the way he does it. <---2nd post I have in this thread. It says exactly what you apparently don't (or refuse, probably) to see!

I said it myself more than once that there's nothing wrong with showing gratitude, or appreciation, <---2nd post, as well.

That's 4, not a million...use that for your next argument, though, please, be my guest.


I don't know what else to say. Everything you have said is either rediculously overblown or tainted with extreme bias. You have nothing but opinions tainted with strange hatred of a father son relationship.

How come what I say is opinion and what you say is fact? Is it because you're Scorpio24 and I'm not? Is it because I was cursed to be bankholdup?



Also about this whole exploitation angle you've got going. There is nothing to exploit. Michael won't get anything out of showing the world how much he loves his father. Open you're eyes.

This is not all I am accusing Michael Douglas of, but here goes...Michael, it seems, will get the graditude of saying "Man, we had a rough patch but we really got back together in the end." And he won't have a goddamn burden on his shoulder the rest of his life after Captain Kirk leaves us.




And AWP82, do you mind not giving us your cute little sidenotes? They're distracting, serve no purpose, and if you don't have anything to add constructively, what's the point in posting? There's nothing wrong with humor (or attempted, anyway), but you come off more as a loyal servant than an individual with something real to say.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by bankholdup


The fact that you insist that what I am saying is strictly opinion (despite my having proof of Michael Douglas' over-gloating ways) is sort of hypocritical, don'cha think? Who says Douglas is a great actor and a fantastic producer? Many people, perhaps...but strictly opinion.

No I don't think so. Proof of Michael Douglas over gloating ways???

I'm not even going to bother.




"Some" is not the word for the amount of kudos he splooges onto his father's lap.

Yes this love it's terrible.




Beyond this post, I hope to completely stop arguing with you, seeing as how you're missing the point STILL. I don't have an inability to believe he loves his father. I KNOW HE DOES!, and that's part of the rant. It is how he displays this...wow.

I relaise this. You can't seem to grasp that it is rediclous to piss and moan about someone loving oops i mean exploiting (silly me) his father. And i'm sure you'll be back to say nothing in particular again.




You are putting my "arguments" into their simplest forms, refusing to look beneath any sort of surface. I didn't say it's the problem that he loves/boasts about his father. For the hundredth time! It is the way he--forget it, not worth it.

That's because they are simple.



It's not the fact he shows the love, okay? Jesus...it is that he EXPLOITS it more than anything! That is wrong! I said a million times that it's not that he does it, but the WAY he does it.

Ok lets go through this shall we. Below is the examples YOU give me to prove your above statement.


There's nothing wrong with respecting and loving your father, but when it seems like that's all you talk about, you sound creepy and obsessed.

That doesn't say EXPLOITED!!! That says CREEPY AND OBSESSED. So we'll scratch that effort at making a connection shall we?

There's nothing wrong with going to your father for advice, but come on, Michael! Michael is throwing in boo-hooing over people

That doesn't say EXPLOITED that says ASKING YOU FATHER FOR ADVICE and BOO-HOOING. So lets scratch that effort at making a connection shall we?

It's not that he does it, it's the way he does it.

Well thats close. But still no mention of this EXPLOITATION you have mentioned MILLIONS of times.

I said it myself more than once that there's nothing wrong with showing gratitude, or appreciation,

That doesn't say EXPLOITATION that says NOTHING WRONG WITH GRATITUDE OR APPRECIATION.


So no. Nice try but you hadn't said it had you. Then you give me 4 exaples but say anything but what you are now claiming. Will you be coming back with another angle that was somehow in this labarynth of a first post that I have missed?

Because it's getting rediculous when you try and match things to try and encoperate a new point.





This is not all I am accusing Michael Douglas of, but here goes...Michael, it seems, will get the graditude of saying "Man, we had a rough patch but we really got back together in the end." And he won't have a goddamn burden on his shoulder the rest of his life after Captain Kirk leaves us.

Christ you're sounding petty man.

Now he's doing it so that he desn;t have the burden on his shoulders when his father no no waith Captain Kirk dies.

You're losing credebility by the post.




And AWP82, do you mind not giving us your cute little sidenotes? They're distracting, serve no purpose, and if you don't have anything to add constructively, what's the point in posting? There's nothing wrong with humor (or attempted, anyway), but you come off more as a loyal servant than an individual with something real to say.

The dude can say what ever the hell he likes. It IS a discussion board is it not? And his humor as only been topped by the comedy that is your attack on the Douglas's.






So just incase you break you're promise and come back with a new and improved formula.

Douglas exploits his father' relationship. Um no I don't think so.You would have to provide proof of this. Because even though you claim you have you really haven't.

Douglas owes his career to his old man. Um no, I really need not go into this. It's not even opinion. If he was crap he'd be known as crap.

I suppose winning Oscar's for Producer and Actor just isn't quite enough for you.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

AWP is right, both of you make love.....right now.

[AWP82]

Originally posted by bankholdup
And AWP82, do you mind not giving us your cute little sidenotes? They're distracting, serve no purpose, and if you don't have anything to add constructively, what's the point in posting? There's nothing wrong with humor (or attempted, anyway), but you come off more as a loyal servant than an individual with something real to say.

Loyal servant? :confused: Jesus, that's random. But whatever, I'll step off. I just figured my levity would help lighten the mood a bit since things were getting heated, but I guess that didn't work, so go ahead.....have a fit for all I care.

[jaw2929]

Scorp is right, Bank is wrong, end of story. :p

For real, Bankholdup, you've got no argument and I think maybe you might have a sort of a pissed off jealousy you possibly might harbor, in seeing a father and son love one another in the public spotlight....

And you're pissed for what? How does showing a great amount of appreciation/love and respect for one's father, how is that "wrong"? You say it's in the WAY he does it... So? So what? Why do you care that he does these things for his dad? Honestly? How does your point make any sense? How can anyone agree with what you're saying? Is Michael hurting his fans or the people who see him, by showing this affection for his father?

Honestly, please justifiably explain to everyone here how loving your dad (in ANY kind of way) is even a remotely BAD thing. Please.

[bankholdup]

Scorp...

I think there was a misunderstanding between what I meant when I said "I said that a million times". Exact quote from me: "...it is that he EXPLOITS it more than anything! That is wrong! I said a million times that it's not that he does it, but the WAY he does it."
I did not mean that I said a million times he exploits him, though I suppose I can see why you'd think that, due to the way the paragraph was structured. But I was (though not obviously...) referring to the way he approaches his love, not that he exploits it a million times. Clear?

And yes, you're right, it is a discussion board, Scorp. Giving asinine comments like AWP was giving is not discussing anything.

And Trail_Blazer, there is no jealousy at all...simply a dislike for the way someone does something. Why don't we just get rid of the Rant forum, huh? Quote from you: "You say it's in the WAY he does it... So? So what? Why do you care that he does these things for his dad? Honestly?"

It's just what I feel, that's all. I thought I supplied some evidence, though apparently nothing good enough for you guys. Gee...why should we really care about any rant we mention, though? I mean, really. Why should you really care that someone doesn't want to see a movie by themselves? Are they harming you in any way? Weak sauce. It's something we either feel passionately enough to discuss (though evidently not in a civilized manner...), or get a kick out of talking about, having discussions. Why jump down my throat for feeling passionately enough to bring the topic up? It's people like you that stop others from wanting to speak their minds with comments like that that you made.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Well, bankholdup just wanted to rant about pointless bullshit that he wanted to get off of his chest.....something I've done on a number of occasions. Let's take it easy on him.

[ColonelColinCaine]

Bankholdup, I know exactly what you're talking about. I too can appreciate the fact that Michael Douglas loves his Dad, but Jesus, does it really need to entail the making of two documentaries and a feature film. I can't remember it's name, but it should have been called:

"Look At How Great the Douglas' Boys Are!!!! No, Seriously, My Father's A Fucking Legend, And Both Of Our Careers Have Gone Down the Shitter Now That We're Not Young, So We're Just Going To Feed Off Of Each Other's Celebrity!"


Now, please, don't mistake my smart-ass ravings for hatred, or jealousy, because they aren't. I just don't see any reason why I should give a shit about Mike, or Kirk, or Mike's goofy-looking hellspawn that co-starred, and how well they get along with each other.

[AWP82]

Originally posted by bankholdup
And yes, you're right, it is a discussion board, Scorp. Giving asinine comments like AWP was giving is not discussing anything.

Nuh uh! They're funny.....because I said so.

Seriously though, lighten up man. A little levity never killed anyone. This thread needed it, IMO.

[jaw2929]

Originally posted by bankholdup
It's people like you that stop others from wanting to speak their minds with comments like that that you made.

Really? So does that mean that you'll not make anymore rants about anything anymore? If so, that's pretty sad you'd let a comment of mine detur you away from bitchin' about something....

It doesn't hurt someone to go to a movie on their own, or with friends... You're right in that regard, I see your point... I suppose I like many others here, have a hard time finding anything negative about your rant. As well I'm sure some might have a hard time identifying with mine....

Fair enough.

[bankholdup]

Oh no, not me! :) I'll rant when I need to, but I think this is actually only my second rant anyway (funny enough, they're both actually on the main page, I think), so that shows how little I feel the need to complain.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by AWP82
Nuh uh! They're funny.....because I said so.

Seriously though, lighten up man. A little levity never killed anyone. This thread needed it, IMO.


I thought it was funny. ;)

Now get back to cleaning my house.

[AWP82]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
I thought it was funny. ;)

Now get back to cleaning my house.

Thanks for not taking offense to it. I was surprised at his reaction. Most people ignore my "cute sidenotes" instead of getting mad at them.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by AWP82
Thanks for not taking offense to it. I was surprised at his reaction. Most people ignore my "cute sidenotes" instead of getting mad at them.


I remember getting pissed at one of your sidenotes, and once I realized it was sarcastic it was too late and you had already responded, I felt like kind of an asshole.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
I remember getting pissed at one of your sidenotes, and once I realized it was sarcastic it was too late and you had already responded, I felt like kind of an asshole.

I remember that. That was in rant as well wasn't it? I remember your response and thinnking "ahhh he hasn't come across AWP before."

:D

[The Postmaster General]

What's with all the incest references? Freud is getting an erection in his grave.

Wonder Boys rocked. I didn't know it wasn't acclaimed. Didn't it get some Oscar nods?

Remember when Kirk cut off Michael's hand and then told him he was his father? That's the kind of shit they don't put in the biographies.

Everyone here is okay.

I used to sometimes get Jeff Bridges and Lloyd Bridges confused with Kirk Douglas and Michael Douglas, but a good friend taught me a saying that helped me not get confused again: "You have the Douglas clan If the jaw is sharp at the hinges, but if the jaw is wide and round you're looking at the Bridges." That friend eventually was sent to prison for making death threats on Beau Bridges.

One time I was in Hollywood, and someone stole my travelers checks. I was making a scene at the bank because they weren't helping out. A kind old gentleman with a gleaming smile helped me. If that kind old man was Kirk Douglas, this story would be really good right now. Instead I have a depraved tale of ending up in the LA porn scene and needing to be rescued by George C. Scott.

I've never seen Wall Street, but have quoted it on several occasions. When people say, "That's a good flick." I just smile and nod.

Sometimes I make up sayings and attribute them to people who don't exist. I often explain the absence of these people by saying they were sent away.

Tough Guys - that movie had Kirk Douglas in it.

[ColonelColinCaine]

Bubba, I....don't really know what that meant, but............that was some seriously funny shit!

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
What's with all the incest references? Freud is getting an erection in his grave.

Wonder Boys rocked. I didn't know it wasn't acclaimed. Didn't it get some Oscar nods?

Remember when Kirk cut off Michael's hand and then told him he was his father? That's the kind of shit they don't put in the biographies.

Everyone here is okay.

I used to sometimes get Jeff Bridges and Lloyd Bridges confused with Kirk Douglas and Michael Douglas, but a good friend taught me a saying that helped me not get confused again: "You have the Douglas clan If the jaw is sharp at the hinges, but if the jaw is wide and round you're looking at the Bridges." That friend eventually was sent to prison for making death threats on Beau Bridges.

One time I was in Hollywood, and someone stole my travelers checks. I was making a scene at the bank because they weren't helping out. A kind old gentleman with a gleaming smile helped me. If that kind old man was Kirk Douglas, this story would be really good right now. Instead I have a depraved tale of ending up in the LA porn scene and needing to be rescued by George C. Scott.

I've never seen Wall Street, but have quoted it on several occasions. When people say, "That's a good flick." I just smile and nod.

Sometimes I make up sayings and attribute them to people who don't exist. I often explain the absence of these people by saying they were sent away.

Tough Guys - that movie had Kirk Douglas in it.

Somebody was high last night. ;)

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Somebody was high last night. ;)


I wish.

Imagine living a life where you wake up thinking of shit like that.



Now imagine it while listening to this:
http://uk.geocities.com/da2badeggs/midi/hulk.mid

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I wish.

Imagine living a life where you wake up thinking of shit like that.

Haha. A few of us wake up thinking things like that we just tend not to write them down.



Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Now imagine it while listening to this:
http://uk.geocities.com/da2badeggs/midi/hulk.mid

But you're definitley the only guy thinking it to this.

:D

[robk]

I have no problem with Michael showing his love for Kirk(as long as he doesn't leave his footprints on Oprah's couch:D ).
I do agree though, that, if it wasn't for his old man, we'd all be asking "Who the hell is Michael Douglas?"