"Transformers" List!

[ElderPredator]

Hey everybody,

The official list so-far:

Autobots:

1. Optimus Prime
2. Bumblebee
3. Jazz
4. Ratchet
5. Ironhide

Decepticons:

1. Megatron
2. Starscream
3. Brawl
4. Bone Crusher
5. Barricade
6. Scorpinok
7. Frenzy
8. Blackout

[outsyder]

They'd better fucking have Sideswipe. He was my favorite.

[ElderPredator]

I'm liking everything I'm hearing so far!

[ElderPredator]

Oh shit, the signal is gone!

[ElderPredator]

That was a fantastic broadcast, I'm definitely joining that contest when it starts in a few weeks.

[SinisterMinistr]

soundwave?

[ElderPredator]

Originally posted by SinisterMinistr
soundwave?

Nope, it doesn't look like it. Doesn't matter to me. He was cool but not as cool as the others in my opinion. I'm so happy that Starscream is in it.

[SinisterMinistr]

say what you want but for some reason when I was little, I loved soundwave..... just would have been cool to see my fav character from back then live-action. [fingers crossed for sequel, and more transformers added to cast]

[outsyder]

So is that the final list or can we expect more?


By the looks of it, I'd assume we will get more Autobots.

[Dead Halloween]

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[Jig Saw 666]

The budget must be really high for this movie I mean the amount of CGI they'll have to use. But I'm happy with the list and I'm happy that there are more Decepticons bad guys are always better. And I bet there will probably be a sequel if not already being talked about.

[therealjohng]

Where the fuck are the Dinobots?

[outsyder]

Originally posted by therealjohng
Where the fuck are the Dinobots?

I will see your Dinobots and raise you the Constructicons.


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[g05]

Originally posted by Dead Halloween
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geez. is that supposed to be Bumblebee? i'm just going to forget everything i saw as a kid from the G1 series and just "go with it" when the movie comes out. sure they won't look like what we remember and there will be major differences, but i know i'll like some parts of the movie if not for the most part. when film companies make super hero films, you can't please all the comic book fans. same concept with this movie.

[ElderPredator]

I think Bumblebee looks awesome and I love the look of the frozen Transformer. I think this movie will rock the house. Yu had to have seen that webcast yesterday to get a true feel for what is coming. I don't care if Optimus has flames, it doesn't matter. What matters is the character and maintaining the personality which the writers made an absolute promise that they have preserved the original Generation 1.

[The Young Son]

Cooooool.

Starscream is in the house!!!! I only hope they find someone who is close in voice to the original actor.

I will see your Dinobots and raise you the Constructicons.

I will see the Dinobots and your Constructicons and raise you the Aerialbots.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by outsyder
I will see your Dinobots and raise you the Constructicons.


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Touche.

[outsyder]

Originally posted by The Young Son
Cooooool.

Starscream is in the house!!!! I only hope they find someone who is close in voice to the original actor.



I will see the Dinobots and your Constructicons and raise you the Aerialbots.

I will see your Aerialbots and raise you the Go- . . . . oh fuck I fold.

[Shockwave]

Where the hell is Sound Wave??? Hes Megs right hand man.

......fuck. That means no Ravage either.:mad: Ravage was the shit.

[Solid Snake]

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/optimus.jpg

What is that?

[therealjohng]

I'm boycotting if that is Optimus Prime.























Ok, I'd just be pissed.

[Shockwave]

I think they are trying too hard to make them look "hip".

If they fudge Megatron like they did Prime then ill be pretty upset.:(

Im still dead-set on seeing this, but ill be the first to admit that the new designs dont really impress me. In fact, they kinda suck.

Starscream looks like a POS if the figure looks like his movie counterpart.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by SinisterMinistr
soundwave?

Yeah, cause transorming tape players are totally rad!

Meh. Me personally I was never a fan of Prime or Bumblebee, but since they're the main guys I guess they have to be in there. Never liked Ironhide either.

The Decepticon list isn't bad, but how about Schockwave or Six Shot?

For the Autobots I hope to see Sunstreaker, Hot Rod (always liked him better than Prime), and Ultra Magnus.

Or something totally random like Perceptor... or not.

[MrPhox]

They should make Optimus the old school red truck with blue head...but they should put one out of left field and make Megatron the purple dinosaur from beast wars. That'd be slick.

[X-Nightcrawler]

What's this "Autobot" and "Decepticon" business?

[outsyder]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
What's this "Autobot" and "Decepticon" business?

Are you serious?

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by outsyder
Are you serious? I'm being cleverly satirical about how everyone in the universe seems to be hugely knowledgable on the show and I'm clueless. I know who the Decepticon/Autobots are but the names are all a "?" for me.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
I'm being cleverly satirical about how everyone in the universe seems to be hugely knowledgable on the show and I'm clueless. I know who the Decepticon/Autobots are but the names are all a "?" for me.
Well the Autobots are called that because most of them are a vehicle of some sort (except perceptor who is pretty much a talking telescope).

The Decepticons are so named I think because they are deceptive (like most bad guys).

I don't get it. If Frenzy is in this, then Soundwave should be as well.

You can also add Vortex to the list. I remember someone (Elder I think) posting a script excerpt of Vortex attacking an aircraft carrier.

BTW, does anyone else hope that at the end of this film, Megatron becomes Galvatron? That would be sweet. Galvatron was always so much more of a badass!

[Lord Raiden]

No Soundwave or Shockwave?! :confused:

WTF did they do to Prime? :mad:

Still seeing it although my enthusiam just got knocked down a few notches.

Fortress Maximus would be hella cool to see on film. I owned that toy as a kid and wished to God I still had it...biggest Transformer ever. :cool:

[starcat]

Originally posted by Badbird
Yeah, cause transorming tape players are totally rad!

Meh. Me personally I was never a fan of Prime or Bumblebee, but since they're the main guys I guess they have to be in there. Never liked Ironhide either.

The Decepticon list isn't bad, but how about Schockwave or Six Shot?

For the Autobots I hope to see Sunstreaker, Hot Rod (always liked him better than Prime), and Ultra Magnus.

Or something totally random like Perceptor... or not.

finally somebody mentioned sunstreaker...my hats off to you badbird... he was my first transformer toy as a kid, and one of my favorites... but like gambit in the x-men he probably wont be in it...

i too would love soundwave in this movie...but they would probably try to make him more current and make him an ipod or something... but that would be cool if it was like scary movie 4 ;)

[DareDevil]

Isn't it funny that every new news usualy dissapoints people but they still think the movies going to good.

:confused: :confused:

[Shockwave]

...more like they HOPE the movie is going to be good.


The overall line-up so far is solid, with some exceptions.(wtf no soundwave/shockwave but Scorponok of all things??)


..as for the designs ill really hold out until i see them talk and walk, but in still shots they looks kinda "meh".

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by The Young Son
BTW, does anyone else hope that at the end of this film, Megatron becomes Galvatron? That would be sweet. Galvatron was always so much more of a badass!


That would be amazing.

[adamjohnson]

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[Shockwave]

I dont want to see or hear about Galvatron till a later movie.

First, they need to bring SHOCKWAVE(Guess who i named myself after?) in to kick both Megs and Primes ass like he did in the comics.

...THEN they can bring in Galvatron!:)


EDIT: sorry, hard to type with a broken hand

[starcat]

yeah...SOCKWAVE rules...

[X-Nightcrawler]

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[therealjohng]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
That's the binary code for MSDos! Wow, mister!


Is that what that is?


I thought it was that song by Clutch.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by starcat
finally somebody mentioned sunstreaker...my hats off to you badbird... he was my first transformer toy as a kid, and one of my favorites...

Really? Me too. I got to chose between Sunstreaker, Jazz, and some other car, I don't remember. Well of course I'm gonna go with a yellow Lamborgini... And Michael Bay does love fast cars, so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Soundwave as an iPod... LOL.

I could honestly care less how much "traditional Transformer canon" is kept. This is a brand new movie that is its own take of the idea. I don't give a shit if Megatron is a jet, or if Prime is a longnose semi, or if Bumblebee is a Mini Cooper. It's not like Michael Bay is rewriting history - he's just putting his spin on it and I'm willing to let him do whatever he wants to make a cool movie.

I mean, seriously, Soundwave? WTF? Who cares? This isn't the cartoon show. If you want to see a movie version of that, go buy Transformers The Movie.

(BTW, Soundwave became a tank in a later run of the toys, so there, he can be a tank.)

[Lord Raiden]

I posted this in another thread and thought I'd do it here too for those of you who haven't seen the interview yet:

Just watched a 34 minute interview over at Yahoo movies talking with the writers of TRANSFORMERS. I was initially bummed that my favorite TF, Optimus Prime, wouldn't be his traditional red and blue flat nose rig. The writers explained that they want to keep the "core" of the story but have to update it to current standards. And again, I won't pass judgment on Prime or any other TF until I see them in action on screen. I also think why they decided to add some brand new Dececpitcons...I think (at least hope) they added these characters so we can see them die (or destruct) in the movie. It killed me as a kid in 1986 and seeing some of the Autobots and Decepticons go to that big junkyard in the sky. I won't spoil anything for you as it is a pretty thorough interview.

Check out this link for the interview (http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808716430/trailer)

[GodMagnus]

A few more images of toys for the helicopter bot, Scorponok and Starscream toy proto.



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Supposed Starscream
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Pretty obvious. And kinda freaky and cool!
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[Badbird]

Originally posted by GodMagnus
A few more images of toys for the helicopter bot, Scorponok and Starscream toy proto.



http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m297/ejosh1/3941344e686dd5ca67fl9.jpg
Supposed Starscream


What the heck? Is his shlong hanging out or something?

What kind of jet is he suppoesed to be? I can't tell. A Harrier?

[GodMagnus]

Originally posted by Badbird
What the heck? Is his shlong hanging out or something?

What kind of jet is he suppoesed to be? I can't tell. A Harrier?
The website name was blocked out. He's supposed to be a Raptor. Not sure which though!
That may also NOT be Starscream. It's all rumour right now!

[Lost in Space]

ya someone said they were going to forgive whatever happensa and go with it, and whoever said that im totaly with it

[coolguyone]

As an aspiring director, all i can say about this movie is that this is another typical example of how directors that dont know or like the original content are allowed to direct movies that hold more than just a place in peoples heart. I am a transformers fan and when i heard micheal bay was directing , i expected more from him than this. he has literally changed it to suit himself. There are a couple of things that you have to keep in the transformers universe (especially if you gloting that you are doing it for the fans and its faithfull to the generation 1)

1. optimus is a red truck and flat front ( how can you give an excuse as weak as " i chose the long nose version because when transforming its more efficient and believable" , im sorry but that is weak , specially with modern cgi animation , modeling, and rendering)

2. ratchet is an ambulance. jesus ! if you wanted to change certain aspects of the film to applease fans and grow the franchise , you wouldnt make the mistakes your making here ! yes, you dont have to have everything the same as the cartoon , would it be so hard to maybe make ratchet into a modern abulance, or make starscream into a modern f22. if you dont want to keep the old 80's look which made fans happy. there are compramises to everything.

3. Megatron stays as a gun ! if you come out with the excuse that you cant because its not believable then you are just not a good director. you can make anything look good , its a visual medium.
... most of all you keep story elements the same , its a war fought by two oposing factions that land on earth millions of years ago ! im such bay can make explosions , and great car crashes ! , but so can any director. i agree with some of the fans that are dissapointed. Whoever gave the comment that bay is the only directory possible to make this movie, then he is intilted to his opinion but he clearly doesnt watch that many movies, have you ever heard or peter jackson, jame cameron !!!! , and if anyone says you cant always stay to the same story excuse ! well i guess you havnt watch Lord of the Rings (big block buster movie , 2nd in world wide gross only to titanic ! which was made by non other than james cameron) is it so hard to just for a moment and think that maybe the reason why transformers cartoon and the recent transformers line of comics from g1 were such a sucess is because they kept the original story !!!! , why change whats already fantastic? clearly here we dont have any valid excuse for whats happened. and if you defend the changes then you need to look at it objectivly as a person. if your going to make a transformers movie based on characters from G1 , you dont change character designs like whats been done, you dont change story development, you clearly dont change character arch, AND YOU DONT ADD DECEPTICONS THAT WHERE NEVER IN G1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! , micheal bay , i have lost respect for you as a director and i wont see the movie if when i see a trailer (not a crappy teaser that a kid can make with a home camcorder) it looks like whats been seen so far. And as a fan i urge whoever says they love transformers and or even has alittle respect for it ,then not to see it . yes , i have said it. because anyone can make cool explosions with cars and planes and tanks but only a great director and or a fan can make something true to the original story . REMEMBER What Bay said " i was never an original fan , but i love vehicles "

[The Young Son]

Dude, you need to lighten up.

I for one am not entirely impressed with the new "modifications" Bay is making, but I am holding out some hope that it will come together nicely in the end.

[Shockwave]

I would have to see them in motion. Right now i agree with the poster that said they look like BIONICLES.:(

[Badbird]

Originally posted by coolguyone

2. ratchet is an ambulance. jesus ! if you wanted to change certain aspects of the film to applease fans and grow the franchise , you wouldnt make the mistakes your making here ! yes, you dont have to have everything the same as the cartoon , would it be so hard to maybe make ratchet into a modern abulance, or make starscream into a modern f22. if you dont want to keep the old 80's look which made fans happy. there are compramises to everything.

So what are you saying? You can't change things, but you don't have to make everything the same?

Look, first and formost - The Transformers cartoon, and subsequent movie, were nothing more than elaborate comercials for TOYS. That's it! We're not talking about some legendary fiction here like LOTR or Shakespeare. For crying out loud, they are giant robots that turn into cars!

I really, really, really don't care how they are changed, because A) While I was a huge Transformers fan, G1 was my least favorite line of toys and cartoons. And B) Somethings are just stupid. Megatron is a giant robot that SHRINKS when he transforms? Sorry, that's just retarded and done just for the cartoon. Megatron was designed to be a cool toy first, and a cartoon villian second. That's why he's a gun, and Soundwave was a walkman - so they would be cool looking toys for kids to play with.

Kid 1 - "Hey, cool tape player."

Kid 2 - "It ain't a tape player - it's a fucking ROBOT!"

Like I said before. If you want a movie that sticks to the original cartoon's roots, go rent Transformers The Movie.

The new movie is it's own thing.

[coolguyone]

your entitled to your opinion Badbird , but clearly you just justified my post .. when you made your comment
A) "While I was a huge Transformers fan, G1 was my least favorite line of toys and cartoons. " see badbird the whole point of the transformers g1 movie is that its based on g1 movie ! let me break it down for you so you can understand.
b) if you making a movie about jorge washington and you dont change jorge washington and make him a alien. you stick to what jorge washinton is (a human) .
c) ill now expalin the ratchet comment. : you see every time there has been comments from the studio, bay , writers, and any other person giving excuses regarding the change. they still say that they are being faithful to the g1 lineup and that the reason for the change is that it wouldnt look believable when they transforms. what i say is that , this is a lame excuse . because of the technology avaliable in rendering computer animation. what i ment in ratchet was that lets say i was bay and i really wanna rejuvinate the series and franchise. there are certain elements you cannot change and certain elements you have freedom with. what i ment is that lets say ratchet was an 80's ambulance and that you want to change the look , well there are compromises, make him a modern abulance (atleast that way you dont deviate from the character elements) you dont go 180 and start to change characters , looks (extreme changes), character arcs.
d) now you comment with LOTR , i understand what you mean but it stays the same ..they are not just robots that transform, they are FUCKING TRANSFORMERS ! if you were going to make a starwars movie remake based on the episode 4 and say its exactly faithful to episode 4 , you dont change luke and make him look like a hiphop star. you dont change the circular deathstar to look like a giant banana. Yes you make change some looks on it but you have to keep it circular and looking somewhat the same you can add newer concepts but the overal look stays somewhat the same. and you definatly dont change the story ! this isnt about, that transformers was a litterary masterpiece its about staying true to the g1 universe. other than that , if your gonna change all of it then dont bother saying its based on g1 and the story. because for that just say that its a transformers movie but not like anything you have seen before ( no optimus, megatron etc etc . just new characters and story)
e) if you would know anything about transformers , is that they are not just some giant robot with giant pistons , they are an advance alien species . even in the cartoon , comic and if you ever ready the annuals explaining their technology then you would know that there are nanites in they just like human cells that allow for transformation and reduction in size. its not just because they were toys , well ofcourse they were toys .. be realistic almost everything that comes out in tv or movies ends as a toy. now if you say that you cant make megatron transform from a gun and make it look good then your not a good directory and you dont have imagination. if you dont stay true then your destorying the charater. and also you will have to do it sometime , because megatron wasnt the only one that reduced in size.
f) the whole point that the majority of people are saying is that if your gonna make a transformers movie based on g1 story and characters , you try to stay true to it and not change everything. now if your gonna make a new generation and transformers universe then go on ahead but dont fucking name it g1 based.
g) also get your facts straight , megatron wasnt designed as a toy first and the movie wasnt a commercial for toys. look up the information before you post wrong information.
p.s. to end this with a comment similar to yours , if you want to see a movie that sticks to transformers g1 dont do whats being done now, if you want a movie with bionicles , explosions , and cool vehicle explosions then dont name it transformers g1 movie. because its not , you can slap on a autobot symbol to any car and name it optimus , but its not optimus until its a flat nosed red truck with the matrix in it. and your right if you want to see transformers g1 rent the movie , but if you want to see bionicles then go see micheal bays version . because thats what its is , but dont name it transformers g1. because its not !

[LordSimen]

I pretty much agree with Badbird on this one.

And for the record, I think Megatron being a gun is incredibly stupid. It is, with out a doubt, the worst form of Megatron out of all his incarnations in my opinion.

[Shockwave]

And for the record, I think Megatron being a gun is incredibly stupid. It is, with out a doubt, the worst form of Megatron out of all his incarnations in my opinion.

..but he IS a gun. If they change that im gonna scream.

The only thing they could do to Megatron that i could KINDA, SORTA tolerate is if they made him in into a cannon like Galvatron was.

:mad:

If they are going to change the characters to the point that they no longer look ANYTHING like the ones i remember, then id say leave it to someone more competent.

This is like Spider-man where they fucked with the Green Goblins costume and came out with something that like a POS. Its not even Bay, but usualy others who want to make something uber-cool and never seen before, rather then sticking to the older models.

..designing whats come before is boring, so they change and add shit just to do it. It happens with any adaptation and its usualy just done to do so.

[Hack]

wow...you guys are still going to see this movie even if they change everything or nothing. Bay did his thing to the characters and your going to do yours by seeing the movie and getting a sequel started! K? everyone comes out happy.

[Shockwave]

...while im against most of the totaly stoopid changes made so far, im not going to condemn the movie to the depths of hell until i see it for myself.

If its sucks, then ill quickly forget it was ever made and give it a passing thought as i see it in the 10$ bin at Wal-mart. It it rules....then ill have the joy of watching a damn fine action movie.

Either way, life goes on.


:)

[coolguyone]

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i totally agree with shockwave, megatron was a gun and had a huge canon on the side of his arm. to change that and say that you cannot make it due to size and looking stupid means that you know nothing about making movies. because anyone that is good in his craft of film making can make it look fantastic. and remember guys .. we are not just talking about megatron , its difining element in transformer universe. there are dozens of transformers that reduce in size , or get huge. now just because you cant film right you gonna take that aspect of it away. come on guys be real , its part of the story and universe.
--- also im totally with some poeple , they have fucked up the movie , but i will give it its own chance. if i see a crappy trailer i will definatly not see it , because just like spider-man it doesnt deserve a sequel if it sucks. ---- " and yes spider-man was crap, even the spider-man 3 looks like crap. they couldnt even get venom or the black spider-man custom right. -----
anyway , the point is to stick to the basics when your portraying a certain story. you dont butcher it !

[Badbird]

Originally posted by coolguyone
g) also get your facts straight , megatron wasnt designed as a toy first and the movie wasnt a commercial for toys. look up the information before you post wrong information.
p.s. to end this with a comment similar to yours , if you want to see a movie that sticks to transformers g1 dont do whats being done now, if you want a movie with bionicles , explosions , and cool vehicle explosions then dont name it transformers g1 movie. because its not , you can slap on a autobot symbol to any car and name it optimus , but its not optimus until its a flat nosed red truck with the matrix in it. and your right if you want to see transformers g1 rent the movie , but if you want to see bionicles then go see micheal bays version . because thats what its is , but dont name it transformers g1. because its not !

A word of advice, if you want to be taken seriously here, try breaking up that wall of text with a few paragraph spaces and maybe be a little more coherent. I didn't read about half of what you wrote.

Yes, the cartoons were made to promote the toys. The cartoons were made by Hasbro. And the Matrix didn't even show up until the movie, which showed how they pretty much made stuff up as they went along.

Look, The Transformers was a great cartoon... for kids. Making a big budget movie that ridgedly stuck to that story would be rediculous and stupid. There have been endless iterations of the toys (including Megatron being a tank and a jet, Prime being a long nosed car carrier and gorilla(!), etc.), as far as I'm concerned the film makers can pick and choose and make a "greatest hits" for all I care.

Stop compairing Transformers to great works of literature and/or film (or George Washington), because it's not. It was a fun TV show and that's it.

[coolguyone]

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Yes, the cartoons were made to promote the toys. The cartoons were made by Hasbro the Matrix didn't even show up until the movie, which showed how they pretty much made stuff up as they went along.

as far as I'm concerned the film makers can pick and choose and make a "greatest hits" for all I care.

Stop compairing Transformers to great works of literature and/or film (or George Washington), because it's not. It was a fun TV show and that's it.
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Maybe this will be better for you Badbird , this is a forum i can write however i want. if you can' t read then thats your problem. however based on your comments you constantly prove that you dont know what your talking about or know what an example is.

Look all im saying is that if you want to go and do a transformers movie thats fine , but dont say its based on characters from generation 1 , i understand you never liked it to begin with. but the its the same nevertheless if you going to tell a story based on characters that were made by someone else , dont butcher it , if you want to change everything then dont go and glot that your being faithfull to the 80's cartoon, because your not.

Now if Bay would have said , look im my own take on transformers and they will look nothing like the g1 and or be characters from g1, then i think the amount of people complaining wouldnt have been that much. Because everyone of the bat knows that your doing a new story with new characters. But if your going out stating that your making it faithful to G1 and having the same characters from it. then you have to stick to the basics of it.

lets face it , you might not like the toys, cartoon, or anything else on transformers. but if your going to make a movie or a story based on them and g1 in particular then you stick to the same elements. like it or not. because they may have been thought up as cartoons and or have been done trough imagination and or toys , it doesnt matter . the story is already there , and a universe was created just like a star trek universe or a starwars universe. etc etc . each of those has a background elements that you must follow. the same is said for transformers " wether you like it or not"

Now if you are saying about comparing them to literature , yes we can compare them. transformers might have started as a cartoon , but that doesnt take from the fact that it grew into something more. same as starwars . it might have been a story in lucas head but now there are novels, universes , stories, comics, movies, and even technologies based on it. the same goes for transformers. what make a great literature is the story and the elements within them. you can compare them because if you know about literature you know that there are only 32 different types of stories you can tell or write about. from there you expand. is the transformers a masterpiece maybe or maybe not. but the core of it is the same. just because a story hasnt been deemed a litterary masterpiece by whoever dicides that doesnt mean that its not. there are many stories and literatues out there deserving it and they are not called. but anyway , what i mean is that yes you can compare stories.

Now the movie might be great and full of action, or it might bomb for all i care but is it a g1 transformers movie? based on the information and concepts being out there , its not. its just a ripe off from it. and another example why people that dont like and know story about films they are shooting should not be allowed to shoot them.

[Badbird]

From Wikipedia:

Launched in 1984, the Transformers toyline was promoted through both a comic book by Marvel Comics and an animated series produced by Sunbow Productions.

Here's the link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_series) if you want to go edit it because it's wrong too.

I never said I didn't like G1 - I said it was my least favorite. Though the original series made me a fan, I prefer the post-Transformers the Movie era much more.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by Shockwave
..but he IS a gun. If they change that im gonna scream.

The only thing they could do to Megatron that i could KINDA, SORTA tolerate is if they made him in into a cannon like Galvatron was.

:mad:

I'm sorry but the incarnation of him as a gun is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my opinion and I'd rather him be a tank or something of that sort.

[Shockwave]

I loathed the tank Megatron personaly.

Maybe it was the UGLY-ASS color scheme however. When he was a tank he got painted army colors all over and got a purple face. Looked like shit on a stick.

...a few years later i saw one where he was still a tank, but he was the solid whit/black/grey combo he was in the cartoons. THAT looked pretty cool.

...if they go with something different then the gun tho, id still rather just go with the mounted cannon like Galvatron was, just do it in Megatron colors.:cool:

[Shockwave]

I never said I didn't like G1 - I said it was my least favorite. Though the original series made me a fan, I prefer the post-Transformers the Movie era much more.

Same here. I thought the series had alot more life to it AFTER it got off earth. (after the movie)

[Badbird]

Originally posted by Shockwave
Same here. I thought the series had alot more life to it AFTER it got off earth. (after the movie)

Reading all that stuff on Wikipedia really brought back the memories. I'd forgoten just how... "out there" the cartoon series got. Even when I was a kid and there was all that stuff with the Quintessons, the "Hate Plague," Starscream's ghost, etc, I knew it was pretty weird. Really dark for a supposed kid's cartoon.

But I also cleared up something I never really knew.

Generation 1 (G1) refers to the entire cartoon run and includes the movie. Generation 2 refers to the 1993 attempt to relaunch the toys. That was where Megatron became a tank. I always thought G1 was the "present day" Transformers while G2 was the Future, post movie Transformers... but actually all of that stuff is considered G1.

I really need to get the TV series DVDs.

[Jig Saw 666]

http://www.seibertron.com/images/movie/megatron002.jpg

That looks pretty cool.

[Iacon5]

is his mouth the slab of metal that looks like a grin or the vagina with teeth below that? if so is the metal slab a mostash?
personally i think they'd look ool for original alien robots but as transformers they're all wrong. i've always hated the skeletal look with a bunch of random metal shards just slaped on there. it's much better when they have cohesive arms and legs and most importantly faces.
the bodies are bad enough but do they really have to give all of them new stupid faces that no one can recognise?

[Shockwave]

Im sorry, theres just no defending that. ..i mean, could they make Megatron look LESS like the show??

Holy flying shit.


This is just change for changes sake, and it sucks cock. This better be an early 'fucking around" concept art pic that never got close to the screen.

[Tuukka]

I don't really care that much whether they are that loyal or not. I used to watch TF religiously when I was a kid (This was the time when Cyclonus was the main villain). But in the end TF is just a cheesy, dumb series which existed only to sell toys. So I don't consider it as a sacrilige even if they change stuff.

I just want to see big robots kicking ass.

Having said that, I'm not too taken with these designs. The fundamental problem is clear: The robots don't have a clear distinctive form, there is just a generic skeleton which has been covered with a HUGE amount of random crap. As a result the robots look messy and unfocused, lacking any characteristic design.

Still, I think the film will be fun.

[chinton]

I just find it interesting that despite being 24 I had never heard of the Transformers until this movie.

[Jig Saw 666]

I sure these are just concepts I dont think Michael Bay will destroy the series. But I like some of the concepts you have to relize what if they stayed true to every single detail from the t.v. series because imagine if Doc Ock looked the way he did in the comics it would have been a bad movie. So set back and lets see what happens.

[Hack]

Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
I sure these are just concepts I dont think Michael Bay will destroy the series. But I like some of the concepts you have to relize what if they stayed true to every single detail from the t.v. series because imagine if Doc Ock looked the way he did in the comics it would have been a bad movie. So set back and lets see what happens. totally agree with ya jigsaw

[Big Boss]

Originally posted by chinton
I just find it interesting that despite being 24 I had never heard of the Transformers until this movie.

That truly is amazing! Do you mean that you have never heard of Transformers over their 20+ year history? Not just Generation 1, but Generation 2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, RID, Armada, Energon, and Cybertron? Not trying to talk to about you, I just find it interesting how you could have missed it. What cartoons did you watch growing up?

The transformers is the telling of one of the best rivalries of good vs. evil. Other rivalries that compare to the Autobots & Decepticons are:
Joe vs. Cobra
Jedi vs. Sith
Ford vs.Chevy
Coke vs. Pepsi

Truthfully though, I hope that this Megatron is an early rendering, or maybe his Cybertron form that gets reformatted when he gets to Earth. That is too much change! Remember the 1998 Godzilla change to make him look more "realistic"? I think they would have had more success if they had just CG'd a model of the original Godzilla and just gave him more detail. Megatron looks too busy just standing still! Why do they want all these exposed wires and gears? They're just making the animators work harder everytime one of the transformers move compared to if they were based more on G1 design. G1 designs were smoother, not nearly as cluttered, and had room for enhancement.

Yes this Megatron does look scary, but I think any 30 foot tall robot, with a total disregard for human life, walking down the street with a Fusion Cannon on his arm capable of taking out a city block would be just as scary. Anything big and able to destroy you with ease is scary. The Stay Puft Marshmallow Man anyone?

[Shockwave]

The more i look at that Megatron the worse it looks.

..i mean really, no face plate? No Helmet? No color? No hand-cannon at the very least?


That thing looks like something out of a HALO videogame, not a Transformer. It doesnt even look like ANYTHING really. Just a jumbled mess of shit thrown together at random.
:(

I really dont give two flying fucks about "could they do this in real life" or "they wouldnt REALLY look like this! We gotta make they look real!" "They wouldnt have mouths in reality!"

Who cares if they can change size when they transform, or turn into a gun, tape player, ect, ect. This IS NOT a movie where u should be questioning the logic of transforming robots from a gaint planet made of metal 5 biillliooon light years away. Reality has nothing to do here!:p

[LordSimen]

I like that Megatron. Atleast he's not a gun. That looks kind of cool.

[Hack]

You have to admit, it would be sorta dumb if Megatron was a gun that shrank in size.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by Shockwave

That thing looks like something out of a HALO videogame, not a Transformer. It doesnt even look like ANYTHING really. Just a jumbled mess of shit thrown together at random.

My first thought was he looked like the badguys from Titan AE.
http://www.linkandpinhobbies.com/Graphics/pl_titanAE.jpg

[seven]

hey people.....i'm new aroun here...just figured out how to post....:) i surely enjoyed the trailer it left me at first with "what the fuck?" expression on my face...oh come on...u show images from a space probe on Mars, everybody is happy...bla bla... and then u show a shadow and u have a glimpse at a robot throwing a big bad-ass punch in the camera....and then the "coming soon" shit....sincerely this trailer reminded me of a Heineken comercial....i don't know they could at least show some metal there....no T&A in this movie I guess:)

[Hack]

The only t&a we're going to get is the funny looking metal t&a.

[Big Boss]

I'm just now seeing this but over on LatinoReview.com they have info on the size of the Autobots and of Megatron. They didn't say anything about how big the rest of the decepticons are but they should be bigger since they are mostly planes and helicopters compared to cars. Jazz is a Pontiac Solstice! With the optional hard top on he looks pretty good!
[URL=http://latinoreview.com/filmpreview.php?id=254[/URL]

[seven]

The Pontiac looks cool.....I've never been a transformers fan but i like the idea of a movie based on the animate series....yeah...maybe this will be my next obsession....who knows? :)

[Iacon5]

the only way that megatron works is if his alt mode is a pile of scrap metal.

hell i would honestly perfer him shrinking to a gun than this.
i mean their advanced sentient transforming robots frm another planet and people believe it. you say they've discovered the ability to greatly reduce their size and THATS when people stop believing?

[Agent of God !]

Hummm,

Will you look at those pictures? I just so feel that we are heading towards the next ID4. A lot of hype, big budget, cool (not to me) designs and (of course) great special effects. One day we probably will all regret and deny ever seeing this flick, I am so disappointed by what I am seeing about it. I will just stop picking on Michael Bay and stop trying to predict the outcome of the Transformers for me and anybody else, I wish my assumptions were all wrong but so many basic elements that made the Transformers fun are absent from the current production, the only thing I like so far is Optimus’ head. I mean that’s a terrible percentage.

http://www.gwjokes.com/pictures/optimus-prime.jpg

Optimus Prime:” Now all we need is a little energon… and a lot of luck”

Agent out!