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Jig Saw 666
08-28-2006, 07:25 PM
Alot of people thought that Spider-Man was going to go out with a bang next summer with him facing 3 of his most challenging villains ever. But people will be happy to know that there are many Spiderman movies coming to the big screen. This is what Marvel Studios' Kevin Feige says to MTV he also said that 50 years of comicbooks can be 20 years of movies. And if 3 is a big hit which it will be then this will close the deal with more Spiderman movies to come. So each Spiderman is made over every 3 years so thats about 8 movies for the next 20 years. In my personaly opinion this is both a bad and good idea first I know the cast from the original won't probally return most likely for one more after Spider-Man 3. And on the good side we'll get to see our favorite villains coming to the big screen.

What do you guys think? What villains do you expect to come in the next couple of films?

cocksmokinclerk
08-28-2006, 07:58 PM
i could be wrong but i thought that tobey macguire and sam raimi both have signed on to star and direct in them until at least number 6,

MisterChristian
08-28-2006, 08:11 PM
can't wait for The Lizard actually since we have seen Dr. Curt Conners in Spidey 2 and he was mentioned in Spidey 1... :D

Trail_Blazer
08-28-2006, 08:26 PM
Yea, I heard there was going to be 6 flicks as well... Which should be pretty fuckin' cool I think...

Mr. Fred Krueger
08-28-2006, 08:29 PM
I think Tobey is only signed for three films. Although considering these films are what made him a household name, I wouldn't be surprised to see him return--especially if Raimi returns (although I'd love Raimi to take a break and give us a traditional gory, funny Sam Raimi horror film again).

IndianaJones07
08-28-2006, 08:46 PM
But so many of the storylines end with three...

I could see them keeping Venom for a fourth, but I respect the direction of these movies far too much to let them make up 6 more hours of material. Off the top of my head, the only other series I can think of would be Harry Potter that has that many movies with the same character. And part of that is you see him grow up. Spidey's going to be past the growing-up angle after three (High School, College, Young Adult), and, as much as I love the franchise and feel that it could not have been done any better than how they did it -- 4, 5, and 6 might just be three Spiderman:The Last Stand types of movies, and that's what I'm concerned about...

The Young Son
08-28-2006, 09:14 PM
I don't care how many they make, as long as they keep the same cast and the quality of the films the way the are now.

I'm all for more movies!

cocksmokinclerk
08-28-2006, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by The Young Son
I don't care how many they make, as long as they keep the same cast and the quality of the films the way the are now.

I'm all for more movies!

my thoughts exactly!

Hack
08-28-2006, 11:40 PM
The Lizard and the time when Spidey grew 4 more arms from Morbius' blood.

Cronos
08-29-2006, 06:27 AM
Originally posted by The Young Son
I don't care how many they make, as long as they keep the same cast and the quality of the films the way the are now.

I'm all for more movies!

big fat ditto on that

Jig Saw 666
08-29-2006, 06:47 AM
Spiderman: Green Gobiln

Spiderman 2: Doc Ock

Spiderman 3: Sandman
Venom
Gobiln

Spiderman 4: Lizard
Venom
Kraven the Hunter
Black Cat (as a good guy)

Spiderman 5: Electro
Hydroman
Vulture
Kingpin


Spiderman 6: Mysterio
Chameleon
Scorpion
Rhino


Spiderman 7:Carnage
Venom
Hob goblin
Shocker


Spiderman 8: Sinister Six
Black Cat(good guy)
Venom (good guy)

Shockwave
08-29-2006, 07:36 AM
..just keep the QAULITY coming and ill be in line.

Just dont start trying to rush the shit out of them like X-MEN, or try and get overly artsy like Superman Returns.

Spider-man 2 i consider the perfect comic book movie. For me, it had just the right amount of romance, comedy, drama, and action. Hers hoping part 3 can rival it.

Right now, the only thing im worried about is that itll go the way of Batman and clog the movies with villians to make up for a lack of change in the heroes personality.:(

Batman Begins and Spider-man 2 work so well cause they keep the focus on the hero. Gotta run with that.

austingirl
08-29-2006, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Shockwave
..just keep the QAULITY coming and ill be in line.

Just dont start trying to rush the shit out of them like X-MEN, or try and get overly artsy like Superman Returns.

Spider-man 2 i consider the perfect comic book movie. For me, it had just the right amount of romance, comedy, drama, and action. Hers hoping part 3 can rival it.

Right now, the only thing im worried about is that itll go the way of Batman and clog the movies with villians to make up for a lack of change in the heroes personality.:(

Batman Begins and Spider-man 2 work so well cause they keep the focus on the hero. Gotta run with that.

Definitely agree with everything you said, especially trying to get them all out too quickly. It's more important to turn up with a quality film than just another comic book movie to please audiences!

3 looks to be in the same line as the previous 2 in terms of quality and character development, so I am hoping they will continue to strive to make good follow-ups!

moviebuff01
09-15-2006, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by IndianaJones07
But so many of the storylines end with three...

I could see them keeping Venom for a fourth, but I respect the direction of these movies far too much to let them make up 6 more hours of material. Off the top of my head, the only other series I can think of would be Harry Potter that has that many movies with the same character. And part of that is you see him grow up. Spidey's going to be past the growing-up angle after three (High School, College, Young Adult), and, as much as I love the franchise and feel that it could not have been done any better than how they did it -- 4, 5, and 6 might just be three Spiderman:The Last Stand types of movies, and that's what I'm concerned about...


With you on that, but Tobey Maguire will be 50 by the time they get the 4th film out. I believe that careful planning should go into films and that they shouldn't be thrown out one after the other, but they have been spanned over a long time. Look at Lord of the Rings, they did great with the close releases. Spider-Man 3 is killing me, it's been a long wait.
With regard to the characters, I agree with the concern that there may be too many. It is hard to focus on the story of four different villains and concentrate on the hero saving the day all at the same time. I hope they can manage it and keep the vibe going that they have created with the first two. Can't wait to see the theatrical trailer, the teaser did its job... hurry up May!

the clever guy
09-16-2006, 09:01 PM
how come no ones really mentioned carnage? maximum carnage? now, granted that movie would be insanely huge on scale and would probably never happen. ever. just for the mere fact that it could and possibly would take about 2-3 movies alone to explain...unless of course, you wanna go all 'the last stand' about it, cram a massive storyline into roughly 2 hours (forgive me for forgetting how long it actually was...but i dont care either way), and completely fuck it up. then again, if they did that...aunt may would die (which she did die in one story arc...), mary jane would be become terminally ill somwhow and..die, peter would go insane and possibly die, and j. jonah would be the savior. anyway, back to the subject at hand...

theres also other milestones here:

ben reilly - who the hell doesnt remember that long confusing jacked-up storyline. this would also spawn kaine and cameleon.

kraven's last hunt - spider-man...buried...alive!

the other - hell, why not throw some recent jazz into the mix? it was one of the better spider-man storyies i've read in a long time.

other cool villains - mysterio (preferrably quintin beck), hobgoblin, doppleganger, the lizard (stop teasing us sam!), and the snooty usher (ok, maybe not...but he was the only person - on screen - to defeat spider-man)...

well, there literally limitless stories to go with when it comes to spider-man, as long as the writers of 'the last stand' keep the hell away (sorry, i'm still bitter at throwing my hard-earned $9.00 on that damned movie!). after the college years in spider-man, they could start with his friendship with tony stark and living in stark towers (many, many more cross-over characters...so this might not happen) and peter being a teacher...or whatever gap i missed in between that (i did get out of the comics for a little while there, so bear with me). just my thoughts on everything thus far.

adamjohnson
09-17-2006, 02:04 PM
The character DOES change, which is why they'll need to recast everyone with more mature actors. Peter in the last years of the comic has gotten married, lost an unborn child and has since become seperated from Mary Jane. There IS drama in there still. And Clever Guy, the Snooty Usher IS Quentin Beck AKA Mysterio.

Danger^Cart
09-17-2006, 02:18 PM
I think making more than 3 movies is a BAD idea. Just look at Star Wars...

I'm pretty sure the snooty usher being Beck is just an extremely misplaced rumor as well. I'd like to see Bruce Campbell in a first billed villain role as much as the next Evil Dead fan, but c'mon, it just aint gonna happen.

adamjohnson
09-17-2006, 02:31 PM
No, it was confirmed by Avi Arad months ago.

Danger^Cart
09-17-2006, 02:45 PM
Ah, I see. I've been away for awhile so I don't know these things, but I still don't hold too much trust in that. I seriously doubt that would ever actually happen.

adamjohnson
09-17-2006, 02:57 PM
No, he flat out said Quentin Beck was the fourth villian in SM3. It's the reason Bruce has had two very ditinct and different characters in the two film - he' Quentin Beck, master of disguises and illusion. :)

Jig Saw 666
09-17-2006, 07:06 PM
Quentin Beck isn't the 4th villain his the waitress at a resturant that Peter goes to. The four villains are 1. Sandman, 2.Venom,3.Goblin,4.Symbiote.

adamjohnson
09-17-2006, 08:15 PM
Go back and read the article. He says FLAT OUT its Quentin Beck/Bruce Campbells; character.

the clever guy
09-17-2006, 08:30 PM
ummmm...maybe i missed the part where it says that the snooty usher is quentin beck or vice versa? i dont recall him ever being named quentin beck. if you're referring to bruce campell being both the snooty usher and quentin beck, then i see your point. if you're going down that alley, then quentin beck is also a wrestling announcer. but i do recall an article (which i might have read on superherohype.com) a little while back which interviewed bruce and he stated he wasnt going to state what his charcater is, or that he was being quiet about it...i apologize for not remembering. but again, quentin beck is only mysterio...he is NOT (and im talking the character himself) a snooty usher or a wrestling announcer. bruce campbell is all of these (IF....IF the mysterio thing holds water) and that makes him fucking awesome.

Shockwave
09-17-2006, 08:46 PM
..the symbiote is Venom..


All im hoping for is NORMAN appearing to HARRY again like he did in SPIDER-MAN 2.

Jig Saw 666
09-17-2006, 09:42 PM
Here was the intreview



I had the honor to go to a Q&A session with Bruce Campbell on Friday night in Cambridge, MA. It wasn't long before someone popped the 'Spider-Man 3' question. Bruce said that he couldn't say much and was probably going to say too much, but he and Spidey will "team up." He also bragged that the snooty usher is the only person to ever defeat Spider-Man in the movies.

Later in the night, (with an enitrely different crowd) there was a screening of his film "Bubba Ho-Tep." He took more questions, and again Spidey 3 came up. This time, said that his role was "pivitol." Obviously a joke, but I'd be willing to be that he is definitely NOT Mysterio, as earlier rumors claimed.

X-Nightcrawler
09-17-2006, 10:47 PM
So I was way off hoping they'd stop at part 3 (hated the second).

. . . I just want the superhero trend to end as soon as possible.

bigred760
09-17-2006, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
. . . I just want the superhero trend to end as soon as possible.

Sorry man, don't see that happening anytime soon.

I think if Sam Raimi enjoys making the movies - he'll continue to do so; he seems like that kind of filmmaker. I don't think Maguire and Dunst will last as long as he will. I see Raimi continuing to do Spidey movies sfor a while, while directing other flicks in between every so often.

jord2006
09-18-2006, 06:46 AM
i dont know the comics enough to really chat about it but the last to villains have been pissweak, dont get me wrong i loved the movies. villains to me have to be the exact oppisite to the hero. spiderman being your all around good guy and the villain being the exact oppisite HELLSPAWN. doc oc and the goblin just dont do it for me but i have high hopes for venom

adamjohnson
09-18-2006, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
Here was the intreview



I had the honor to go to a Q&A session with Bruce Campbell on Friday night in Cambridge, MA. It wasn't long before someone popped the 'Spider-Man 3' question. Bruce said that he couldn't say much and was probably going to say too much, but he and Spidey will "team up." He also bragged that the snooty usher is the only person to ever defeat Spider-Man in the movies.

Later in the night, (with an enitrely different crowd) there was a screening of his film "Bubba Ho-Tep." He took more questions, and again Spidey 3 came up. This time, said that his role was "pivitol." Obviously a joke, but I'd be willing to be that he is definitely NOT Mysterio, as earlier rumors claimed.

I said the Avi Arad interview. Not the Bruce interview from four years ago.

Jig Saw 666
09-18-2006, 01:24 PM
O I'm sorry I didnt no September 10, 2006 was four years ago.

adamjohnson
09-18-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
O I'm sorry I didnt no September 10, 2006 was four years ago.

You're forgiven.

APzombie
09-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Shockwave
..the symbiote is Venom..


All im hoping for is NORMAN appearing to HARRY again like he did in SPIDER-MAN 2.

Can't remember where I heard it but I do recall reading an interview with Dafoe a while back, he said he hasn't been contacted by Raimi for anything dealing with the third film, but he wishes him the best of luck. It was a while ago, there still is a chance but we shouldn't get our hopes up.

martinphipps
09-19-2006, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
Spiderman: Green Gobiln

Spiderman 2: Doc Ock

Spiderman 3: Sandman
Venom
Gobiln

Spiderman 4: Lizard
Venom
Kraven the Hunter
Black Cat (as a good guy)


You can't just list villains and hope that Raimi will use them. You need to pitch a story that Raimi would want to go with. Like this:

"So Conners becomes the Lizard and Peter knows it is Conners and tries talking to him, thinking that if Conners personality can take over then he can tell Peter what he has to do to cure him but Kraven thinks the Lizard is just a dumb animal and tries to kill him but Spiderman stops him so then Peter goes off to find a cure for Conners and he thinks he's found it but, in the meantime, Kraven has been preparing for Spiderman's interference, lays a trap for Spiderman and Spiderman has to escape from Kraven's trap and cure Conners before Kraven kills him. Meanwhile, two new charactes are introduced, one of which is Felicia Hardy (who isn't the Black Cat yet) and the other is the guy who becomes Carnage just before the end credits."

Ew. That really sucks. But that just proves my point: you need to think of a good story first and then worry about what villains Spiderman has to face.

Martin

Shockwave
09-19-2006, 07:18 AM
Ew. That really sucks. But that just proves my point: you need to think of a good story first and then worry about what villains Spiderman has to face.

Exactly.

I used to think Doc Ock was lame as hwll, but i loved how he was handled in the movie. It was as a villian, yeah, but he also seemed like an actual fleshed out character.

Sandman, i cant wait to see what they do with. When he was written well in the comics, he was one of my favorites. Hes been in everything from The Sinister Six to The Avengers themselves.


With Sandman, Harry, and Venom/Peter running around, i get the feeling were going to see alot of shades of grey to these characters.:cool: