The Boondock Saints

[Monotreme]

I would like to see a show of hands. Who here hates this movie with a passion?

*raises hand*

So I saw it for the first time yesterday in wake of the indescribable cult hype it gets on internet movie communities among people my age - 7.7 rating on IMDb, for example, special edition DVDs, theatre screenings, etc. And it was one of the worst cinematic experiences of recent memory. I mean, if it had at LEAST had some cinematic balls or a sleek style like Running Scared, which sucked but isn't quite as bad as Boondock. But it is inconsistient to the point of pain, and bland as shit. It is also stupider than Tom Arnold in that ruddy 90's movie. It sort of comes across as a Tarantino rip-off, except that there's nothing even remotely similar to anything Tarantino in the film. It is unfunny as shit, the characters are painfully bland and have no "cool" traits or stuff, the shootouts are simple as fuck, and... and shit! It's just such an unentertaining mess that, on top of it being poorly made and boring as fuck, it's also preachy as shit and it just pisses me off that this film is so popular.

To those to whom this film appeals, can you please explain to me what is so good about it, and how people can compare it to Tarantino? Because hell, the Tarantino RIP-OFFS (like "Confidence") look like opuses of the crime genre when compared to this film.

[Duke Nukem]

I haven't seen the movie and don't care about seeing it either. And I have to say...before the fanboys on these boards find out about this rant, track you down and burn you alive...you were very, very brave to speak out and be honest.

[ilovemovies]

Actually, I've read almost as much people who love it hate it too. This movie really does seem to be a love it or hate it type flick.

I haven't seen it yet myself but I'm very curious to just because of how polarizing it seems to be for audiences.

[Monotreme]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I haven't seen it yet myself but I'm very curious to just because of how polarizing it seems to be for audiences.
For the love of god, don't bother.

Fans and haters! Speak up, lads! I sat here all weekend biting my nails, eagerly expecting a vicious exchange of insults - and none were to come! Draw ye swords, noblemen! And chivelrous knight opposers of the film, prepare ye shields and storm the battlefield!

[Kevin Lockard]

I was actually planning on writing a script called "The Angel(s) Of Death" and then was told the story was almost too close to that of Boondock Saints so I went and saw it. It's not that good. The story and concept was obviously interesting but the end result wasn't. I'm still gonna write my own script of TAOD, even if it does lend to TBS a bit (killing "bad" people doesn't guarantee as being too close together anyhow if you ask me).


**Raises Both Hands**

[Joshmo]

Used to hate it - but now I like it 7/10 If I ever direct a first tme flick, I hope I can surround myself with talented people like Duffy did.

[Cronos]

ever since i first saw it I've loved the Boondock Saints, its a film that I can just sit down to, switch my brain off and have a blast watching, fun action scenes, good performances and a good soundtrack, just fun from beginning to end

also i've got me sword drawn and i'm waiting for ya Monotreme :D

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Joshmo
If I ever direct a first tme flick, I hope I can surround myself with talented people like Duffy did.

Who are you speaking of specifically? Obviously things didn't work out for Duffy.

It's an awful movie. I laughed my ass off from start to finish, hardly able to believe the absolute atrociousness of what I was witnessing. A wannabe hip and cool movie of the worst possible kind (also see Lucky Number Slevin).

[echo_bravo]

Originally posted by Cronos
ever since i first saw it I've loved the Boondock Saints, its a film that I can just sit down to, switch my brain off and have a blast watching, fun action scenes, good performances and a good soundtrack, just fun from beginning to end



Pretty much agree with ya. The ending credits were the real atrocious part.

[chasingbanky]

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This movie is crap. The Gun fight with Billy Connelly in the middle of the street was the absolute epitome of stupid senseless gun fights... How can these ace killers miss a guy 20 feet in front of them with so many shots? Aside from the horrible writing, terrible acting, bad special effects, and stupid storyline, I usually mention that to the fans that ask me "How could you not like Boondock Saints man?" Fuck this movie, everyone I know that likes it has absolutely no place in my book of "peoples who have opinions that matter."



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[Shockwave]

I HATE this overhyped POS with a passion.

[CletusHorniblow]

Originally posted by Cronos
ever since i first saw it I've loved the Boondock Saints, its a film that I can just sit down to, switch my brain off and have a blast watching, fun action scenes, good performances and a good soundtrack, just fun from beginning to end

also i've got me sword drawn and i'm waiting for ya Monotreme :D

I agree with Cronos. It's one of those great turn-off-your-brain type of movies. Is it the best of it's sub-genre? Far from it, but it's still an entertaining ride from start to finish; whether or not the rumors of the director being a complete ass are true.

I'd take a Tarantino film or Snatch of TBS anyday...but that doesn't mean it's not a fun flick.

[Joshmo]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Who are you speaking of specifically? Obviously things didn't work out for Duffy.

It's an awful movie. I laughed my ass off from start to finish, hardly able to believe the absolute atrociousness of what I was witnessing. A wannabe hip and cool movie of the worst possible kind (also see Lucky Number Slevin).

Things not working out for Duffy of which I am well aware and have also seen the documentary, have nothing to do with the FACT, he was able to surround himself with talented people to get his film made.

[MadsenOMC]

Once again, who are these talented people you speak of?

[Joshmo]

Listen to the commentary on the new dvd - I dont wish to enage you

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
A wannabe hip and cool movie of the worst possible kind (also see Lucky Number Slevin).

I loved Lucky Number Slevin so if are going to compare it to that movie maybe I will actually like this.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Joshmo
Listen to the commentary on the new dvd - I dont wish to enage you

That's pretty lame. You brought it up and I am curious as to exactly who you are referring to. I have no intention of ever watching the movie again or listening to the commentary. But if you want to wimp out, well, I guess there's nothing I can do about that.

Lucky Number Slevin is easily one of the worst movies I have seen this year. What a fucking massive piece of shit on every level. Thinking about how bad it is makes me angry. However, I am hardly surprised that you loved it. I am only surprised when you hate something.

[Criminal Rock]

You tell him Madsen!!!

[SLagonia]

Oh, come on, that was a great movie!

[Kato76]

Even if you hated the film, you have to admit that the Cat exploding was probably the best cinematic shocker that I've seen I fell off my couch laughing when that happened..


HEEHEE

[Joshmo]

Oh my..should I take the obvious lame ass bait thats being offered me by the guy who has problems with 90% of the films he watches?..what should I do? Should I "wimp" out? Why, I was attacked about it not being surprising why I liked it...uh, oh..should I respond..other than being fasicious like now?

Naw....

If you wanna know so much about what I stated - then you're gonna just have to listen to the commentary (and subesequenlty LEARN SOMETHING)or suffer as to why I wont engage you on a more mature level. :rolleyes: :o

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Joshmo
Oh my..should I take the obvious lame ass bait thats being offered me by the guy who has problems with 90% of the films he watches?..what should I do? Should I "wimp" out? Why, I was attacked about it not being surprising why I liked it...uh, oh..should I respond..other than being fasicious like now?

Naw....

If you wanna know so much about what I stated - then you're gonna just have to listen to the commentary (and subesequenlty LEARN SOMETHING)or suffer as to why I wont engage you on a more mature level. :rolleyes: :o

The dreaded eye roll again. People love that around here. Really demonstrates their maturity. Spare me joshmo. I wasn't baiting you. I asked because I want to know. I am curious as to who you are talking about. I would like to know who these talented people you speak of are. Is that really asking a lot? I fail to see how listening to the Boondock Saints commentary would be educational. Your refusal to answer a simple question is odd. Makes me think you don't know the answer.

[Joshmo]

People love giving you the dreaded :rolleyes: because most of the time you warrant it

Again - think what ya want - Personally, I think you know I DO know the answers but refuse to give you the satisfaction. If I dont know what I'm talking about I havent noticed any fans of the flick saying Duffy doesnt discuss this in the new dvd - and being fans and loving it and not listening to the commentary by now makes ME wonder how much of a fan of it some are.

Duffy also glossed over the real reason why his film got fucked with and he also made no mention of the documentary - he in fact has his own reality about why his flick tanked and its quite comical, but you'll just have to listen to the commentary or drop the issue, cuz I aint gonna give the satisfaction to someone who hates the flick anyway, and THATS why you get all these :rolleyes: from people cuz you dont let shit go - EVEN ON MOVIES YOU HATE YOU KEEP YOUR BULLSHIT GOING AND GOING AND GOING AND GOING...


















..AND GOING AND GOING GOING....:o

Dude, you'd be surprised and probably wouldnt believe me, the amount of PMs I got the last few times I went round robbin with you the amount of people who said stuff like "Its about fucking time someone said something to Madsen"...I just wish those Shmoes had the balls to say that on here, LIKE I DO..DIRECTLY TO YOU. Everyone deserves at least that...even you ;)

[MadsenOMC]

LOL. Alright Joshmo. You have huge balls. You really showed me. Whatever will I do. I am so scared of the big bad Joshmo. In all seriousness, you can believe what you want, but I was not trying to start shit with you. I was and still am honestly curious about who exactly you meant when you said Duffy surrounded himself with talented people. Is that really an unreasonable question? Was I way out of line when I asked you to name names? If you don't want to answer, fine, so be it. I won't be losing any sleep over it. That's cool. But I don't understand why you couldn't just answer me. Seemed like a straightforward question and I truly wanted to know who you meant.

And seriously man, do you honestly think I fucking care that some random people here IM'd you about supposedly standing up to me? I think it's funny that apparently some people are afraid of me. It's also funny that you think you are some big brave guy who stands up to me. But hey, if that really makes you feel better, good for you.

[Joshmo]

For me to think I am brave would mean I have something to fear.

When random numbers get into DOUBLE DIGITS...in under one hour....well... :D

But they should have had the king size balls..well actually medium size balls I pack and actually say it for all to read. They are too concerned with making cyber pals...I could care less if I am liked, love, hated, etc. Thats about the only thing I think you and I share in common - but then again, it really feaks you out to go on page after page after page to make your point over and over and over and over..etc, etc, etc, etc, etc..

and I also got another message about 30 minutes ago..NOTICE..the next Shmoe who PMS me with a screw Madsen message, I will REVEAL your name and message. Sorry if I just lost ya as a bud..but as I said, I dont care.

[The Heart Collector]

Boondock Saints is pretty goddamn terrible. If someone tells me its their favorite movie I have to assume they never crossed the 16-year-old maturity line.

[Kato76]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Boondock Saints is pretty goddamn terrible. If someone tells me its their favorite movie I have to assume they never crossed the 16-year-old maturity line.

You know most of us men never ever cross that line, we just try and stay in adolescence for all our life.

Saying that, I did however enjoy Boondock Saints. But it wasn't just just the movie that I enjoyed (being a home theater enthusist) it was the first movie that the lady in the upper aparment called and complained about. She was rambling on about something and the F-word?

So I told her to take her hearing aid out and it will be ok

:rolleyes:

[Monotreme]

I love inciting war and terror :cool:

And by the way, I too would like to know exactly what talented people (besides Willem Dafoe) Duffy surrounded himself with. Because the film looked like it was filmed, set decorated and costume designed by a bunch of 16 year olds.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by Kato76
Even if you hated the film, you have to admit that the Cat exploding was probably the best cinematic shocker that I've seen I fell off my couch laughing when that happened..


HEEHEE

That was exactly one of the things I thought was retarded about this movie. It's like it's trying so hard to be extreme and cool and outragious.

And the gunfight in the middle of the street was really stupid. They just stand on one place while Billy Connely slowly moves to one side. WOW! John Woo eat your heart out!

Not to mention you could barely understand a word the two heroes were saying. Nor were they interesting.

It got to a point where it was almost unwatchable. Thank god there was never a sequel.

[Cyclonus]

Originally posted by Duke Nukem
I haven't seen the movie and don't care about seeing it either. And I have to say...before the fanboys on these boards find out about this rant, track you down and burn you alive...you were very, very brave to speak out and be honest.

I haven't even seen this movie. Is that, by itself, considered an unpardonable sin in these parts? ;)

[vesaker]

heh alright he's my 2 cents for any who care ;)

1. Willam Defoe kicks ass and once again shows he personal versitlity by playing a homosexual character. Now while that not necessarily something special its a one up on many many other actors out there

2. A movie doesn't have to be mentally engaging to be good. I meen come on its a shoot'm up action film! if you were expecting crazy nonsense like in Terintino films then your first mistake was picknig the movie up.

3. How can you not know who the talented ppl are surronding Duffy?? i meen come on Shawn Patrick Flanery was the bomb in Powder LMAO

But all in all i did enjoy this movie but i took it for waht it was, and action shoot'm up thriller. It may have tried to be intelctual at parts but it did fall short.

Oh and Madsen if your still wondering why Joshmo won't just tell you who the "talented" ppl are surrounding Duffy then you may want to look the word 'spite' in the dictionary ;)

[jaw2929]

I couldn't stomach this gaddamned fucking piece of shit... I got about 40 minutes in and turned it off, bewildered that it's received such praise/acclaim... Fuck this nonsensical fucking garbage!

[BigSugar]

Okay, this is no way a defense of the film itself, but what the hell are "cinematic balls?" That just seems like a patently pretentious and disingenuous statement. You don't like the movie, fine, but how about some criticism of it that makes a little sense. So the movies lacks balls. Does that make it have a "cinematic pussy?' Being a heterosexual male, I might prefer that quality. I might, in fact, not wish to seek out movies for which a good description would be that they have "cinematic balls."

[KingofKings25]

*Raises Hand*

This movie was terrible and I really don't see why people like it. Horrible script, horrible music, nobody actors, and bad film making all together.

1/10 - 1 point for the hotel room scene.

[vesaker]

Originally posted by KingofKings25
*Raises Hand*

This movie was terrible and I really don't see why people like it. Horrible script, horrible music, nobody actors, and bad film making all together.

1/10 - 1 point for the hotel room scene.


How the hell can you say the Willen Defoe is a nobody actor?!? i meen may be one ungly bastard but he's an amazing actor :P

[stickmangrit]

fuck this movie.


much like Passion of the Christ, it's a mediocre and boring movie that has garnered far more praise than it ever deserved. that it was made by a dickhead with ego and hubris comprable to Mel Gibson is telling as well.



and as for the fucking cat, i thought that scene was hilarious...

back when the cat's name was Marvin and Travolta was holding the gun.

[Annie Hall]

I really like the set up of this movie. The first half is really fun: cool music, fun banter, Willem Dafoe prancing, a lot of Irish accents and, yeah, some cheesy "badass" movie tricks--but it's clearly a first attempt. The flick begins to break down in the second half, as though the director knew how he wanted to end it but...didn't know how to get there.

Each time I see this movie, I feel more and more like the director was so excited to actually have control of a film that he just gave each cool thing he'd seen in a movie he liked a try. The movie is way too self-aware, but I think it saves itself from being self-important.

I think it really had the potential to be completely great in the right hands, but save some really fun moments, a couple cool performances and a killer initial plotline, Saints falls short. Still good for 3am viewings, definitely not to be taken seriously.

[cocksmokinclerk]

yea this film does really suck donkey balls!

hand raised

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Once again, who are these talented people you speak of?

Um, Willem Dafoe? Billy Connolly? also Norman Reedus and Sean Patrick Flannery are fairly competent actors.

But yeah this movie is AIDS. Hopefully THE DEPARTED will replace it as 'the movie about crazy boston irishmen that people like'.

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by Kato76
Even if you hated the film, you have to admit that the Cat exploding was probably the best cinematic shocker that I've seen I fell off my couch laughing when that happened..


HEEHEE

That scene was directly stolen from PULP FICTION.

[The Heart Collector]

Also in case people were wondering sorta why the movie became so popular, its partly because since it never had a proper release it was a movie that a lot of people slowly discovered and it became 'their' movie.

now everyone's seen the fuckin' thing.