Scorsese's Oscar will be for...

[bankholdup]

I figured I'd start a thread, since there is a mini-discussion going on in another thread in the General Forum about the Oscars this year, and a possible one for Scorsese now, in the future, or never.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

If he gets anything, it will be an honorary. Here's why: the Academy, and all the guilds are all equally anti-Scorsese, they just don't know it.

[sarah1980]

Strictly an Honorary Oscar

[Gordon]

I'm pretty sure it won't be for The Departed as it's really not an Oscar film.

I'm guessing near future not because I believe it but because I refuse to believe anyone could be so moronic as to not give him a Best Director Award.

They should build a time machine and give Stanley Kubrick a best director oscar.

[dalomini]

Unless there's an awesome standout, I think the Academy realizes the sin they've committed over the years so they're going to take advantage of this opportunity to reward him for what is supposedly his best since Goodfella's

[chinton]

They were moronic not give Hitchcock an Oscar or Kubrik. I see no reason why it would be different here.

[Lazy Boy]

We should all be grateful that beacons of talent such Ron Howard can claim an Oscar for directing while Marty sits on the sidelines with his head in his hands. :rolleyes:

I'd guess Honorary Oscar. If he gets passed over this time for a film in which he's receiving the most ecstatic reviews since, say, Goodfellas, then he ain't gonna win one in a competition.

[The FamilyJulas]

It better be in the near future (i.e. Silence, etc.) Because i am sick of the academy fucking one of the greatest directors of all time in the ass year after year.

[TylerDurden182]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
If he gets anything, it will be an honorary. Here's why: the Academy, and all the guilds are all equally anti-Scorsese, they just don't know it.

LOL. Agreed.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Think about it: it's not just the Academy, the Directors Guild is just as bad, if not worse. They always go with the directors of more popular films....elitist cocksuckers.

[TylerDurden182]

^^^^^^^

I completely agree.

[deadguy76]

Originally posted by chinton
They were moronic not give Hitchcock an Oscar or Kubrik. I see no reason why it would be different here. I think you mean "best director" Oscar since Hitchcock won an honorary Oscar and Kubrick won best special effects for 2001:ASO

I don't think he will ever win. Clint Eastwood and the extreme right have staged a right wing conspiracy against Scorsese.

[Shockwave]

I don't think he will ever win. Clint Eastwood and the extreme right have staged a right wing conspiracy against Scorsese.

Dammit all! And here i thought it was because Eastwood made kick-ass movies.:(


But in all honesty, i think he has a very good shot with the Departed.

Flags of our Fathers looks awesome, so its gonna probably be a tight race. MDB and Mystic River both rocked my world. Im really starting to get a tad tired of war movies however, so im rooting for the Departed.

I want Jack to win best actor this year also. He looks electrifying in the trailer as the villian.

[JackassFan]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
If he gets anything, it will be an honorary.
Yep.

:(

[chinton]

Yes I mean Best Director


And since when is Eastwood against Marty. I don't really get Eastwood how deliberately fashioned a multi-faceted conspiracy. Eastwood just happens to be a good director.

[ilovemovies]

Depending on his competition for the rest of the year, I think he might actually have a decent shot this year especially considering how amazing the reviews are for The Departed.

[deadguy76]

Originally posted by chinton
Yes I mean Best Director


And since when is Eastwood against Marty. I don't really get Eastwood how deliberately fashioned a multi-faceted conspiracy. Eastwood just happens to be a good director. He just "happens" to be better than Martin Scorsese? Just because he's won two Oscars doesn't mean he's better. Flags of our fathers, a movie celebrating pride in the American Military, just happens to open up the same year as Scorsese's next movie after being nominated twice for his last two, and losing his last one to Eastwood?

[Shockwave]

He just "happens" to be better than Martin Scorsese? Just because he's won two Oscars doesn't mean he's better. Flags of our fathers, a movie celebrating pride in the American Military, just happens to open up the same year as Scorsese's next movie after being nominated twice for his last two, and losing his last one to Eastwood?

Flags isnt about pride in the American military, but thats beside the point....


Do u really think MDB and Mistic River WON due to pride in the American military??


Besides, since WHEN has Hollywood run short on "inspirational" stories "based" on real life??

Eastwood is actualy a huge fan of Scorsese. Its a crime that a master like him hasnt won yet, but it has NOTHING to do with Eastwood.

[The Young Son]

I'm thinking NEVER.

I love Scorsese, but he is a director with far too much talent and vision to ever get a fucking Oscar. The Academy have denied him too many times and it is just painful to see him nominated again and again and not win.

[zeppelin]

Originally posted by deadguy76
I don't think he will ever win. Clint Eastwood and the extreme right have staged a right wing conspiracy against Scorsese.

You know Eastwood is a Democrat, right? And even if he was on the "extreme right," there isn't any conspiracy against Scorsese, I assure you, and certainly not a political one staged by the extreme right. It's Hollywood you're talking about, remember. Since when is the Academy politically conservative? Didn't they give Michael Moore an Oscar? And Roman Polanski? Just look at the Best Picture nominees last year...a movie condemning McCarthyism, a movie with a huge multi-ethnic cast about racism, and yes, the "gay cowboy movie." I doubt it's even possible for a right-wing conspiracy to exist in the Academy.

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
We should all be grateful that beacons of talent such Ron Howard can claim an Oscar for directing while Marty sits on the sidelines with his head in his hands.

First of all, Scorsese never lost to Ron Howard, and though I know that's not the point you were making, they don't worship Ron Howard anyway. The Oscar he won for A Beautiful Mind was his one and only nomination ever. He didn't even get nominated for Apollo 13, which was nominated for Best Picture that year, and also won the Directors Guild award (the only time, I think, when the DGA winner was not an Oscar nominee). On the other hand, Scorsese may not have won yet, but he has 5 nominations for Best Director under his belt, including one for The Last Temptation of Christ, which received extremely mixed reviews (so did Gangs of New York, for that matter). So that's 5 nominations for Scorsese vs. 1 for Ron Howard. I really doubt the Academy holds Howard to a higher regard than they do Scorsese.

Anyway, I don't think Scorsese will win this year, but a nomination may be in hand. The reviews are great for the most part, but I think the fate of The Departed at the Oscars will depend more on box office. If it's a hit like The Aviator was, then it might even get a Best Picture nod, which would certainly translate into another nomination for Scorsese. But I doubt he'll win. I do, however, think he will win a competitive Oscar sometime within the next couple of years, for one of his next two movies. And of course, there will be a HUGE standing ovation, proving that there is NOT some conspiracy against Scorsese.

[thedudeman69]

The Oscars, by the last two years alone, try to pick the best most contversial picture/performance/director so that they can be called "edgy"

Scorsase could do a snuff film and still not get a Oscar for it.

[chinton]

I never actually said Eastwood is better than Scorsese. I love them both.


But the idea that Eastwood in his senior years has masterminded a far reaching conspiracy against Scorsese is just ridiculous. I hate to dissapoint but Eastwood is a great director. It's not like Brett Ratner won over Scorsese.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by chinton


But the idea that Eastwood in his senior years has masterminded a far reaching conspiracy against Scorsese is just ridiculous. I hate to dissapoint but Eastwood is a great director. It's not like Brett Ratner won over Scorsese.

Yeah, but Eastwood won the direction oscar three times while Scorsase is still at zero.

[chinton]

And what does that have to do with anything. Yes it's terrible that Scorsese hasn't won an Oscar, but once again unless he rigged the votes how is this Eastwood's fault.

Am I really the only one who sees Eastwood as a great director.

[deadguy76]

Originally posted by zeppelin
You know Eastwood is a Democrat, right? And even if he was on the "extreme right," there isn't any conspiracy against Scorsese, I assure you, and certainly not a political one staged by the extreme right. It's Hollywood you're talking about, remember. Since when is the Academy politically conservative? Didn't they give Michael Moore an Oscar? And Roman Polanski? Just look at the Best Picture nominees last year...a movie condemning McCarthyism, a movie with a huge multi-ethnic cast about racism, and yes, the "gay cowboy movie." I doubt it's even possible for a right-wing conspiracy to exist in the Academy.
Sen. Lieberman is a democrat, or at least he once claimed to be. Even though he supported more conservative ideas, like prayer in public schools and supporting the Iraq war. Eastwood once told Michael Moore "If you ever come on my property like you did with Charlton Heston, I'll shoot you." Why would a democrat say something like that?

I'll agree that the academy doesn't lean politically one way or the other. Deep down I really don't think there's a conspiracy (you guys need to learn to take a joke), I just think it's crappy that Clint Eastwood conveniently releases a movie the same time Scorsese releases one.

[chinton]

He's simply releasing his movie. Is Eastwood not allowed now to release movies when Scorsese releases movies.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by chinton
He's simply releasing his movie. Is Eastwood not allowed now to release movies when Scorsese releases movies.

Yeah. It's a free country. He can release it. :D


By the way, I wasn't saying that Eastwood isn't the mastermind twiddling his mustache everytime Scorsase loses. I was just saying that Eastwood has already gotten some Oscars and Scorsase didn't get any because the acadamy in my opinon, goes "aw, fuck it. we'll give it to Eastwood." I find Eastwood to be a solid director. I was a big fan of Mystic RIver.

[Shockwave]

I just think it's crappy that Clint Eastwood conveniently releases a movie the same time Scorsese releases one.

Whats convenient about it? I think this works in the favor of Scorsese.

If anything i think Eastwood is in for the uphill battle this time around simply because hes making a war movie AND due to Eastwood winning so much of late.

I LOVE MDB and Mystic River and think they deserve every award they got, ........but i really think this is gonna be "it" for Scorsese. :cool: Not due to any "any shoulda won in the past so well give it to him this time" bullshit, but because the movie hes made THIS TIME deserves to win.

[AngelDust06]

If he doesnt get one for the Departed, especially since a majority of the films that have been coming out this year have been crap, then someone needs to blow up the Academy's main office. Sorry Clint and De Niro but Its going to take alot to beat this fantastic film.

[deadguy76]

I really have the sneaking suspicion that Clint Eastwood and Scorsese will be in a McGuire/Sosa race to see who wins.... without all the steroids of course. :D

As if any director in history has ever worked out at the gym.