D.A. Harvey Dent Confirmed For "The Dark Knight"!

[ElderPredator]

Hey everybody,

The wait is over (kind of) as Christopher Nolan has finally answered the one question that has been on all our minds since Heather Ledger was cast as Joker.....will District Attorney Harvey Dent appear?

The answer to that is a big YES! Nolan confirmed this recently at the Chinese theatre during an interview with IGN Filmforce. Here is what he had to say when they asked if he had been cast yet:

"Not yet." Would that actor be an American, an Aussie or a Brit? "You'll see," Nolan promised.

Sounds friggin' awesome and just the confirmation that he is appearing is perfect to me. In my opinion, Billy Dee Williams should come back from the first "Batman". :D (He was awesome!)

Link: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/736/736931p1.html

What do you all think?

[ElderPredator]

Sorry for the mix-up at the beginning everyone, it posted the article before I finished it. :rolleyes:

[cocksmokinclerk]

sounds awesome, can't wait to see who it is! i'm still kinda bummed that nolans first choices for the joker and penguin both turned him down, but still nolan will fucking own!

[DarkKnight81]

My final prediction: Guy Pierce.

[ElderPredator]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
My final prediction: Guy Pierce.

My prediction as well.

[Agent of God !]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
My final prediction: Guy Pierce. http://www.lostonwallace.com/images/two-face2.gif

Hummm…

That would probably be Nolan’s best choice, since he’s worked with him before (Memento) and Pierce is as convincing as a good character (The Time Machine) as much as believable as an evil character (The Count Of Monte Crysto). Thus covering Harvey Dent’s thirst for justice and then his psychopathic aptitude for crime. I hope Christopher Nolan (I wonder if these hotshots ever read Joblo.com) reads this thread tonight and calls Pearce first thing tomorrow morning to offer him the two faced role.

Agent out!

[ElderPredator]

That would be pretty sweet. He'll have to go for a younger Harvey Dent since we're looking at the younger years of Batman. Pierce could act pretty cold and psycho if he wanted to. Remember Sam Jenkins? :D

[LordSimen]

Anyone starting to think that since they worked together on the Prestige that Mr. Hugh Jackman might be in the up and running for this role?

[ElderPredator]

Originally posted by LordSimen
Anyone starting to think that since they worked together on the Prestige that Mr. Hugh Jackman might be in the up and running for this role?

I wouldn't doubt the possibility but I wouldn't choose him. He's Wolverine.

[APzombie]

On the ball Elder, on the friggin ball :)

Im not sure about Hugh, I don't know if Nolan would put in a well known from Marvel, that and I think a really important element for Nolan is casting against type. Ledger as the Joker is an example, Gary 'king of the baddies' Oldman as Gordon is another. I expect someone he probobly hasn't worked with. Someone who has a bright future, and someone who hasn't had a histroy with comic book films.

[ElderPredator]

Originally posted by APzombie
On the ball Elder, on the friggin ball :)

Im not sure about Hugh, I don't know if Nolan would put in a well known from Marvel, that and I think a really important element for Nolan is casting against type. Ledger as the Joker is an example, Gary 'king of the baddies' Oldman as Gordon is another. I expect someone he probobly hasn't worked with. Someone who has a bright future, and someone who hasn't had a histroy with comic book films.

Thanks AP! ;)

Gary Oldman did an excellent job as Gordon and I look forward to seeing him again in the sequel with a bigger role for sure. Nolan has a great nose for new and current talent.

[Jig Saw 666]

It is most likely it will be Liev, Guy, or Hugh but I ways lookin around and you decide you looks the part.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/face_candidates.jpg

[ElderPredator]

That is very cool Jig Saw and out of those, I would go with Liev. It really fits him. :D In a good way.

[FLAME_ON]

Definitely gotta go with Liev but I'll tell you what... Joaquin Phoenix looks like a BAMF with that burnt half of a face

[DarkKnight81]

Liev or Joaquin would be great but please God no, not Phillipe or Cusuck.

[TylerDurden182]

I'm hoping it is either Joaquin Phoenix or Guy Pearce.

[Rick-James]

I still think Hugh Jackman.

[Strider]

I hope it's Guy Pearce. I desperately want to see Christopher Nolan work with Pearce again. If anyone can convince Pearce to appear in a comic book film, it's Nolan.

Strider

[Agent of God !]

Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
It is most likely it will be Liev, Guy, or Hugh but I ways lookin around and you decide you looks the part.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/face_candidates.jpg

Hé,

I wish Nolan would go for Pearce, but bottom line is whoever he picks I think he shouldn’t take the whole Two-Face character literally. What I mean by that is to avoid having the disfigured Harvey Dent turned criminal, have half of a suit a certain way and another half a way, 2 distinct girl friends… He should avoid to put to much into the appearance of the character that is caused by his conflicted dual personality, in the long run I find to much of that quite corny.

Agent out!

[Agent of God !]

Those make ups are basic, sober but very efficient and sufficient. Two face doesn’t need an entire new wardrobe, new women… His name is Two-Face not Two-Socks or Two-Ties or Two-Pants…

Agent out!

[Commodore]

Billy Dee! Billy Dee! Billy Dee! Billy Dee!


Sorry, that nutty professor quote just came to mind. I would go for Billy Dee because the guy needs some work.

[starcat]

if they use billy dee they better keep him as a black guy in the sequal when hes two face.... that really pissed me off about the original set...

also i think balthazar (cotton weary) getty would do an awesome job as harvey
or, i know throw the rotton tomatoes, but i think tim curry would be killer as well

[DarkKnight81]

Apparently another name has been thrown into the mix for Harvey Dent: Ethan Hawke
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/shortpunk17/Myspace%20Album/ethanhawke.jpg
I'd still rather see Schreiber or Pearce but this isnt the worst idea ever.

[therealjohng]

I've been saying since the beginning, "In Nolan I trust." And I will continue to say it. The guy knows what he is doing.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Jig Saw 666
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/artos/face_candidates.jpg

While Cusack doesn't necessarily look the part to my liking, he is a superb actor who could pretty much play any role he set his mind to with conviction.

Phillipe, as much as I loved him in the criminally (no pun intended) underrated Way of the Gun, is just not suited for this role. Like Katie Holmes, he seems too green for the role, as if he needs a few more years under his belt.

Liev, unfortunately, has declined the role, which officially makes him a douchebag in my book, because not only would it in no way hurt his career, leaving him little excuse, but he's freaking perfect for it. FUCK YOU LIEV SCHRIEBER, YOU SELFISH FUCK! FUCKER! EAT A DONKEY COCK YOU PILLOW BITING SHIT MONGER!!

....sorry. It had to be said.

Ethan Hawk would be horrible. I can't stand him, and, like Kirsten Dunst, he has troll teeth. Stand against troll teeth people. Say NO to troll teeth.

My only problem with Guy Pearce, is his face. He has an extremely skinny, wierd, cheeckbone thing going on, that gives his features an almost skeletal look. Harvey Dent has a firmly set square jaw, or to rephrase, the exact opposite of what Guy Pearce is rockin'. Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but its always bugged me in his other roles (However fine an actor he may be) and I KNOW it'll bug the shit out of me in this one.

Which leaves us with Joaquin, who would be utterly fantastic. I have no quarrels with him as Dent, and hopefully, it'll come to be. The dude is a BAMF.

And I completely agree with you Agent, his dual personality complex should not be takin to the literal extremes, as its often corny and unnecessary. However, that being said, I would like to see the half white, half black suit make an appearance. That is in no way corny, only ridiculously badass and sinister.

[DarkKnight81]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
While Cusack doesn't necessarily look the part to my liking, he is a superb actor who could pretty much play any role he set his mind to with conviction.

Phillipe, as much as I loved him in the criminally (no pun intended) underrated Way of the Gun, is just not suited for this role. Like Katie Holmes, he seems too green for the role, as if he needs a few more years under his belt.

Liev, unfortunately, has declined the role, which officially makes him a douchebag in my book, because not only would it in no way hurt his career, leaving him little excuse, but he's freaking perfect for it. FUCK YOU LIEV SCHRIEBER, YOU SELFISH FUCK! FUCKER! EAT A DONKEY COCK YOU PILLOW BITING SHIT MONGER!!

....sorry. It had to be said.

Ethan Hawk would be horrible. I can't stand him, and, like Kirsten Dunst, he has troll teeth. Stand against troll teeth people. Say NO to troll teeth.

My only problem with Guy Pearce, is his face. He has an extremely skinny, wierd, cheeckbone thing going on, that gives his features an almost skeletal look. Harvey Dent has a firmly set square jaw, or to rephrase, the exact opposite of what Guy Pearce is rockin'. Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but its always bugged me in his other roles (However fine an actor he may be) and I KNOW it'll bug the shit out of me in this one.

Which leaves us with Joaquin, who would be utterly fantastic. I have no quarrels with him as Dent, and hopefully, it'll come to be. The dude is a BAMF.

And I completely agree with you Agent, his dual personality complex should not be takin to the literal extremes, as its often corny and unnecessary. However, that being said, I would like to see the half white, half black suit make an appearance. That is in no way corny, only ridiculously badass and sinister.

I agree that the best possible casting would have been Liev Schreiber, and I'm sure Chris Nolan thought the same and thats why he offered him the role. Maybe he will change his mind. However, I'd still prefer Guy Pearce...then Joaquin. If it werent for the hair lip thing Joaquin would be at the top of my list. At least they would know which side of his face to fuck up.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Liev, unfortunately, has declined the role, which officially makes him a douchebag in my book, because not only would it in no way hurt his career, leaving him little excuse, but he's freaking perfect for it. FUCK YOU LIEV SCHRIEBER, YOU SELFISH FUCK! FUCKER! EAT A DONKEY COCK YOU PILLOW BITING SHIT MONGER!!

....sorry. It had to be said.




when did he decline the role? Last time i checked, he kept talking about how much he'd love to do TDK....

I demand links, damnit!

on a side note, what do you think about Josh Lucas?

[DarkKnight81]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
when did he decline the role? Last time i checked, he kept talking about how much he'd love to do TDK....

I demand links, damnit!

on a side note, what do you think about Josh Lucas?

This is the best I could find, but I also do recall him declining the role, probably due to his schedule not necessarily b/c he doesnt want to be in it. But you never know.

From Batmanonfilm.com
Not long ago, I heard that Liev Schreiber may be out of the running for Harvey Dent in THE DARK KNIGHT. According to THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER, Schreiber has joined the cast of Love in the Time of Cholera. Another casting note via HOLLYWOOD.COM, Katie Holmes will play Posh Spice in a David Beckham biopic. I curious if either of these projects might affect THE DARK KNIGHT, with filming of starting in March ‘07. Filming on Schreiber’s project is upcoming; no word on when the Beckham film is set to go in front of cameras. Of course, Katie Holmes was actually in BATMAN BEGINS and has been said at times to be both returning and not coming back. Schrieber has only been rumored for the part of Dent. FYI (Thanks to "Dave" for the Holmes info)...

[Danger^Cart]

I also recieved that information from BOF, who are seldom wrong, but as you said, hopefully he will reconsider. Personally Joaquin's hairlip doesn't bother me near as much Guy's skeletal face, but to each his own. I think Joaquin can play brooding better than Pearce can, and the brilliance of his transition from normal to moody to psychotic cant be denied. Also, over Pearce, he has the build of Harvey from the comics, which rivaled Bruce himself (In Year One he has a bench in his office, what does that tell ya).

I'm rooting for Pheonix, and actually, the more I think about it, I would prefer him over Liev. Fuck Schrieber.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I'm rooting for Pheonix, and actually, the more I think about it, I would prefer him over Liev. Fuck Schrieber.

That wouldn't be bad casting at all. Phoenix has shown a lot of range in his movies and could pull this off quite well. Though I think Pierce could do it as well; Schrieber would definitely look the part, but whether or not he could pull it off is up in the air.

[Danger^Cart]

Holy crap, I just had a revelation.

I was watching Supernatural (which is a GREAT show, btw) tonight and I realized: Holy shit, Jensen Ackles would make an awesome Harvey Dent. Not only does he possess pretty much all the physical characteristics of Dent but, and anyone who's ever actually watched Supernatural can back me up on this, he has a surprisingly deep acting range. I know this will never happen, but I thought I'd share it anyway's.

Something to ponder.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
on a side note, what do you think about Josh Lucas?

http://www.canmag.com/images/front/people2/joshlucas.jpg

[APzombie]

From what I gather I think Nolan wants to hold in the casting for the rest of the film probobly until the press release right before filming begins in March.

[cerealkiller182]

I have been for Liev for Dent since i saw the Manchurian Candidate remake. But Josh Lucas and Joaquin Pheonix are good choices too. Although Pheonix seemed to have put on some major pounds since Walk the Line. His appearances at the award shows he looked real puffy. Dent should be very well built seeing as he was real vain before the scarring.

Some people on another board think Pheonix would be bad because of his birth mark (usually mistaken for a surgery scar) because Dent is suppose to be a pretty boy and very vain.


I never liked Guy Pierce. I've liked movies he is in but found him to be very bland most of the time. I do would be a good Dent but a terrible Two-Face. I also remember him saying that he was uninterested in comic movies which was brought up because of his connection with Nolan. Although i remember Bale saying the same thing once when someone asked him about being both Batman and Bond.

[CyclicNightmare]

Give Tommy Lee Jones another shot.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_forever/tommy_lee_jones/batmanforeverdvd.jpg

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by CyclicNightmare
Give Tommy Lee Jones another shot.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_forever/tommy_lee_jones/batmanforeverdvd.jpg

While I think he;s good enogh to deserve another shot he's A) Too old, and B) Theyre trying to distance themselves from past franchises.

Liev is my favorite becasue Ive seen waht he can do with split personalities in Manchurian Candidate. His age too, however, may be a factor in not getting the role. For, as you may or may not know, Harvey Dent is not yet DA, he's ADA, much like Rachel Dawes. (Dent will likely come in to replace the one killed off in BB)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Geijutsuka/Manips/2face2sm.jpg

Guy Pearce, Josh Lucas, and Etan Hawke, among otehrs - Im all very meh about. Not for their portrayal of Dent - in which case I think Phillipe would do an admirable job - I just wonder about their ability to portray such a conflcited, complicated personality such as Two-Face with enough subtlety to be believeable.

An actor such as Cillian Murphy would be a good choice. Vastly underrated as he is, he pulled off BOTH the normal asshole-doctor and psychopath as well as anyone could. But alas, he IS the Scarecrow.

Note: Hewould have landed the Batman role if not for his physique.

Which is why I kinda think Lachy Hulme will get the Two-Face role. It would be the same switcheroo that happened with Crane.

Lachy with his Macduff beard.

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/52/50/20/10m.jpg

[bob]

I think, out of the names mentioned in this thread, Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman, and Josh Lucas are the best choices.

And is the Scarecrow coming back? Cillian Murphy was easily the best part of the first movie.

[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by CyclicNightmare
Give Tommy Lee Jones another shot.

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/warner_brothers/batman_forever/tommy_lee_jones/batmanforeverdvd.jpg

bwahaha, that made me LOL

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by bob
I think, out of the names mentioned in this thread, Guy Pearce, Hugh Jackman, and Josh Lucas are the best choices.

And is the Scarecrow coming back? Cillian Murphy was easily the best part of the first movie.

In theory, he should be back, at least for the third film.

I've heard stories that tell (totally fan made) where the Scarecrows fear toxin is part of the Jokers origin. And it seems like a pretty good idea.

[DarkKnight81]

Batman should be chasing down the Scarecrow to start off the Dark Knight much like the Haunted Knight book, just to give that character some closure. He doesnt deserve to go out the way he did in Begins.

[moviebuff01]

I feel the same way about the scarecrow.. I thought Cillian Murphy did a good job in the first movie. If he does not have a big role in the second film I would atleast like to see his character have closure, as others have said. It would be cool to see Scarecrow give Joker his beginning. Either way, I am excited to see what they come up with!

[Danger^Cart]

Scarecrow isn't "out", they only reason they did that whole taser thing at the end was to give him some facial disfigurement so maybe, as I would have it, he feels he can't take off the mask ever again and Jonathan Crane molds into his Scarecrow persona that much more, perhaps even completely disappearing within it. I'm sure they'll have him in the sequel, even if its only a brief cameo.

I agree, combining the fear toxin with Jokers origins is a great idea, because not only does it bridge the two films together but it would explain this:

From IMDB...
Batman and Gordon find alliance with a newly appointed DA Harvey Dent to stop a vicious killer with a warped sense of humor known only as The Joker, a threat to both the good, and the evil of Gotham City.

Maybe the Joker seeks vengeance on Scarecrow for the deformities he suffered as a result of the fear toxin? It's could work.

[DarkKnight81]

I think the Joker should go on a killing spree of any remaining members of the League of Shadows (the Joker may be a villain but he knows when some else is in his territory no matter who they are). Somehow encounters Scarecrow along the way who has created a more dangerous toxin that scars him. Then the Joker kills that fuck once and for all. Sorry Cillian, I loved you in Begins but we need some sacrificial lambs.

[OpT!Mu5]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/744/744382p1.html

Just weeks after Ryan Phillippe dismissed talk that he was up for the role, Batman-on-Film.com claims that a new, heretofore unreported actor may be a contender to portray Dent.

According to a longtime "friend" of Batman-on-Film.com, Ethan Hawke (Assault on Precinct 13, Training Day) is up for the role of "a lawyer" in the Warner Bros. project. At 36, Hawke is about the right age for the young, doomed D.A.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/744/744382/ethan-hawke-gattaca_1162861017.jpg

[Mr. Gray]

I dunno.....I've never seen Hawke play a psychotic role, so I really don't know what to think. He could look the part, but at the end of the day, that doesn't mean shit.

[FLAME_ON]

And the role goes to Ethan Hawke...:confused:

Blow me

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/11/07/ethan-hawke-is-harvey-dent/

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by FLAME_ON
And the role goes to Ethan Hawke...:confused:

Blow me

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/11/07/ethan-hawke-is-harvey-dent/

Still just a rumor guy,

[FLAME_ON]

Oh I know... I just never though of him as a contender for the role, it's a nice choice, just came as a surpise to me

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
I think the Joker should go on a killing spree of any remaining members of the League of Shadows (the Joker may be a villain but he knows when some else is in his territory no matter who they are). Somehow encounters Scarecrow along the way who has created a more dangerous toxin that scars him. Then the Joker kills that fuck once and for all. Sorry Cillian, I loved you in Begins but we need some sacrificial lambs.

The League of Shadows is pretty much just a group of leaderless ninja's now (Unless of course they bring in Talia to pick up the pieces, which would be a friggin' awesome direction to go in) so there arent really any individual characters to track down and kill, not to mention what exactly would be Jokers motivation? The League of Shadows isn't exactly a publicized organization, so The Joker (who, since this is an origin story, is more than likely going to be a petty thief (in his original story back in the Golden age he was a jewel theif) or low-level enforcer) knowing of their existence would be kind of silly.

And Scarecrow isn't actually a member of the League. Bruce acknowledges this in the mansion while he chats with Ra's.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
The League of Shadows is pretty much just a group of leaderless ninja's now (Unless of course they bring in Talia to pick up the pieces, which would be a friggin' awesome direction to go in) so there arent really any individual characters to track down and kill, not to mention what exactly would be Jokers motivation? The League of Shadows isn't exactly a publicized organization, so The Joker (who, since this is an origin story, is more than likely going to be a petty thief (in his original story back in the Golden age he was a jewel theif) or low-level enforcer) knowing of their existence would be kind of silly.

And Scarecrow isn't actually a member of the League. Bruce acknowledges this in the mansion while he chats with Ra's.

I thought Nolan had confirmed way back when that The Joker would be taking orders from the LOS, killing mob bossess an shit?

[DareDevil]

Ethan Hawke is the 2nd best choice I've read here, the dude's been missing in action recently and is always an underrated actor. Though I would love to see Guy as far as I can tell that's only fanboy rumors since i have never read him mentioned for any casting officialy.

[DarkKnight81]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
The League of Shadows is pretty much just a group of leaderless ninja's now (Unless of course they bring in Talia to pick up the pieces, which would be a friggin' awesome direction to go in) so there arent really any individual characters to track down and kill, not to mention what exactly would be Jokers motivation? The League of Shadows isn't exactly a publicized organization, so The Joker (who, since this is an origin story, is more than likely going to be a petty thief (in his original story back in the Golden age he was a jewel theif) or low-level enforcer) knowing of their existence would be kind of silly.

And Scarecrow isn't actually a member of the League. Bruce acknowledges this in the mansion while he chats with Ra's.

I know Scarecrow wasnt in the LOS, I was just saying the two might cross paths. As far as the Joker taking out the remaining members of the LOS, Nolan made it sound as if his intentions were more unknown instead of just a pure straight up villain. What I was getting at was that maybe he would be killing these other villains to show them whos turf it was. But who the hell knows what this movie is really going to be about anyways.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
I dunno.....I've never seen Hawke play a psychotic role, so I really don't know what to think. He could look the part, but at the end of the day, that doesn't mean shit.

You obviously haven't seen Taking Lives. (But then again, why would you want to. Its a shit movie).

Don't be so quick to dismiss Hawke as a candidate. I remember when I first heard Ledger had been selected and I thought it was complete bullshit because we'd never heard he was even in the running. Then, he got the role.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by The Young Son
You obviously haven't seen Taking Lives. (But then again, why would you want to. Its a shit movie).

Don't be so quick to dismiss Hawke as a candidate. I remember when I first heard Ledger had been selected and I thought it was complete bullshit because we'd never heard he was even in the running. Then, he got the role.

...holy shit, i forgot about that movie (guess that says a lot.) well, i vaguely remember that, but i guess he wasn't bad. i still don't know if he could handle the personality swings, but i guess i would make too much of a fuss if he was cast.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
but i guess i would make too much of a fuss if he was cast.

I would. I can't stand Ethan Hawk. I think he's a bland, two-dimensional actor who in no way would fit the role of Harvey Dent.

I still like Phoenix for the part but, if a knew name must be thrown in, I still say Jensen Ackles would be a nice fit.

[bigred760]

I kinda doubt that we'll be seeing any connection between the Joker and the League of Shadows, unless there's some connection in a comic book somewhere as far as the origin of the Joker is concerend - comic book aficionados out there can confirm this or what not (Soda?!?! :D) .

And I don't like the idea of the Joker getting started by the fear gas. He's not afraid of anything, he's just freakin' insane. And I'm wondering if we'll even see the origins of the Joker since we already know he's out there from Batman Begins. Plus, Nolan might want to distance any plotlines from Burton's version. I'm talking out of my ass of course, but it's something to think about.

Ethan Hawke definitely looks the part, but if he does get it, it must have been one hell of a audition because I too think he's not up for it talent-wise. But that's what I said about Heath Ledger, so . . . we'll wait and see.

[Thrizzle]

Pleeeaaasse be Guy Pierce. We all loved him as a cop in LA Confidential, and he has that sinister dark side we all saw in Memento. He's the perfect choice. Perfect i tells ya!

[KingofKings25]

Why for the love of god is Guy PEARCE getting so much love for this role? I'm not sure who I would like for this role but Pearce would be one of the last people I think would fit the role. He doesn't belong anywhere near this movie let alone the DA.

Hawke or Phoenix sounds good.

[theGruppe]

Originally posted by KingofKings25
Why for the love of god is Guy PEARCE getting so much love for this role? I'm not sure who I would like for this role but Pearce would be one of the last people I think would fit the role. He doesn't belong anywhere near this movie let alone the DA.

Hawke or Phoenix sounds good.
While I like Guy Pearce, I have to agree. He just doesn't quite fit the role.

[Thrizzle]

Damnit i knew it was EA not IE lol. Why isnt he right for the role? Not the right look?

[Silverload]

Originally posted by KingofKings25
Why for the love of god is Guy PEARCE getting so much love for this role? I'm not sure who I would like for this role but Pearce would be one of the last people I think would fit the role. He doesn't belong anywhere near this movie let alone the DA.

Hawke or Phoenix sounds good.

Because it’s a Christopher Nolan film. Guy Pearce will always be fans first choice and will always be rumored for every single role in a Nolan film. He was long rumor to be Batman, Scarecrow, Joker, etc... I’m sure it won’t be long before we start hearing that he’s going to play Catwoman, and fans will cheer :p

[AaronisMe]

It would be cool if Pearce and Nolan were reunited on this movie.

Though, Hugh Jackman sounds fun too but that would be mixing comic book empires which would be weird. Besides, he has 50 things on his slate already.

Ethan is adequate.

[AaronisMe]

"Up and at'em, Ethan! Time to make another awful Richard Linklater movie"-American Dad

[adamjohnson]

News outta BOF

Jett says none of the rumored candidates will get the role, and the casting will be considered 'unconventional.'

(everyone interprets that as a black Dent, but I disagree)

They're officially going for a star.

I think it'll be Johnny Depp.

[ElderPredator]

Guy Pearce has 100 times more talent than Ethan Hawke. I think he is way overrated except for his performance in "Gattaca".

[TylerDurden182]

Denzel Washington anybody...

That would be unconventional.

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
Denzel Washington anybody...

That would be unconventional.

Looks like it might be him actually...

[bigred760]

I think Denzel is too old, considering the rest of the cast. As somebody mentioned before, he's an asst. DA to start out, so he's an up and comer. I could see Johnny Depp in the role, though he's pushing it age-wise. But he could be made to look younger if he wanted. He's definitely got the range for it too. I don't think I care who it is as long as I think he could pull it off.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by adamjohnson
Looks like it might be him actually...

Holy-Fucking-Shit!

Will I ACTUALLY get to see one of my dream casting choices come true?? I mean, seriously, everytime I mentioned Denzel for Dent, you'd think it was Michael Clark Duncan casted as The Kingpin all over again. Denzel would be fuckin' perfect in the role, even if it is a little "unconventional" in both race and age. But trust me, he can pull of the duality that the role requires better than MOST of the previously mentioned candidates....

God, I hope this shit is true.

[TylerDurden182]

I believe this is a rendition that DC comic artist/WB concept artist Lee Bajermo did with Denzel Washington as Two-Face:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/Durden_182/bermejo_dent_2.jpg

[bigred760]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
I believe this is a rendition that DC comic artist/WB concept artist Lee Bajermo did with Denzel Washington as Two-Face:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/Durden_182/bermejo_dent_2.jpg

Looks more like Keith David.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
I believe this is a rendition that DC comic artist/WB concept artist Lee Bajermo did with Denzel Washington as Two-Face:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/Durden_182/bermejo_dent_2.jpg

Yes, it is, and it's dope as fuck. Here's Bemejo's descibtion:

"I like the idea of Harvey Dent being more like a typical multiple personality case (if there is such a thing as typical) in that when one personality is in control, the other no longer exists on the surface. When his personality shifts into Two-Face, his entire manner of speaking and dress would change. I definitely wanted to ditch the whole "split" costume thing as I thought it looked ridiculous in BATMAN FOREVER. To me it's much more effective and sinister to have him wear clothing that reflects his scarred side while still staying fairly realistic. A ratty, stained, crumpled coat..a torn shirt...basically stuff that he could have stolen from some homeless man. As Two Face, he is completely a reflection of the depravity and animalistic side of man. When he shifts back to Harvey he is still partly the man he once was, but completely dependent on his coin to make decisions in his life. In essence, his coin is like the full moon to a werewolf...although I imagine Harvey would live in complete denial of his alter ego's existence.

This drawing is based on Denzel Washington, although it may be hard to tell due to the angle with which I have chosen to portray him. I know that the popular choices for Two-Face are Guy Pierce and Jude Law but I personally felt that Denzel would give a little something different and exciting to the role. He is by far one of my favorite actors working today and anyone who wants to see an interesting "split-personality" role should check out TRAINING DAY.

Couldn't have said it better....

[Danger^Cart]

Denzel has the range to pretty much do anything you could think of. The man is simply...well...a fucking amazing actor.

I suppose I've been neutral leaning towards "no" in regards to Denzel since talk of Dent first started. However, I suppose I'm coming around. The more I ponder that particular avenue, the more it grows on me.

The purist in me want's Liev Schrieber or Phoenix, because they look the part, but the Denzel fan in me wants him to land the part.

He could definetely do some interesting things with the role. I wouldn't be upset if he got the role, to say the least, but I wouldn't be upset if he didn't either. He's definetely in my top 5 choices.

[LedZeppelin1114]

I still kind of like the idea of Depp being Two-Face though honestly I thought he would have been perfect as Joker.

[fooknasty]

Denzel does fit the profile of the "unconventional" and higher profile actor that BOF was talking about. I just wish he would say who he was hearing as being rumored, but whatever.

I wouldn't mind at all Denzel playing Two-Face, because how can you argue with a great actor taking the role. However I still may lean toward Schrieber, my have no problem with this.

My only concern, well now that Denzel I believe is 52 , 2 or 3 years from now when hes about 55 years old, how is he going to do the adequate fight scenes with Christian??

On one hand, it makes sense that you would cast Denzel as Dent, becuase he is such a phenomenal actor. On the other, the age difference doesn't seem right. However, with a young joker, they may want to have an older villian for Batman. Either way, I'm excited.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by fooknasty

My only concern, well now that Denzel I believe is 52 , 2 or 3 years from now when hes about 55 years old, how is he going to do the adequate fight scenes with Christian??

The character doesn't really call for a lot of fight sequences. Two - Face is more of a crime boss figure, like Falcone was in Begins, only much less of a pussy when confronted by Batman. The only really physical requirements for the role would be Harvey beating the shit out of some lackey or perhaps someone close to Batman to send a message (Gordon, perhaps? That would make for some interesting viewing...) or something along those lines. Two-Face's main weapon is his intimidation. That's why finding someone who can play sinister is so important.

If you want to get a good feel for the supreme badassness that is Harvey Dent, I suggest you find a copy of The Long Halloween and/or Dark Victory.

No Mans Land is one of my favs as well.

[EZMOHR]

I say Patrick Wilson. He was competent in The Alamo. He was pretty alright in The Phantom of the Opera. He was damn good in LIttle Children and Hard Candy. I've said him since the beginning....I stay by my choice.


Of course I thought John C. McGinley should have been The Joker.........

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by EZMOHR
I say Patrick Wilson. He was competent in The Alamo. He was pretty alright in The Phantom of the Opera. He was damn good in LIttle Children and Hard Candy. I've said him since the beginning....I stay by my choice.


Of course I thought John C. McGinley should have been The Joker.........

Good call on Patrick Wilson, as far as looking the part goes. I would have to check out his previous works for further affirmation though.

Horrible call on John C. McGinley though. Where'd that come from, exactly, if you dont mind me asking. Not to be rude, but...wtf?

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Horrible call on John C. McGinley though. Where'd that come from, exactly, if you dont mind me asking. Not to be rude, but...wtf?

I think we would have been alright. He's got a good film resume an his character on 'Scrubs' has some Joker-esque qualities to it, the one MAJOR difference is that the Joker's insane and Dr. Cox (on Scrubs) is not :D. He'd be alright, but not exactly perfect for the role. For starters, he's a bit old for the role (especially as compared to Heath Ledger).

[EZMOHR]

As for Patrick Wilson, I thought of him because he is older than Bale, and about the right age of a star ADA on the rise. He also is a wonderful actor. I would suggest watching him in Hard Candy to get the best feel for his acting. I never saw the Angels in America, but I heard he was excellent in that as well.

As for McGinley....well I had two choices the whole time for the Joker. One was McGinley because every week on Scrubs, he basically plays the Joker...albeit a restrained one. Plus, he is tall and skinny, and he's got that menacing smile that with a little enhancement...could be down right sinister.

My other choice for the Joker was.....Zach Braff. Think about it. On Scrubs every week, this guy lives in some psycho ass fantasy world, and can't deal with anything real. That is essentially J.D. in a nutshell. You add just a little mean to the insane he's got on Scrubs, coupled with his looks (that crooked face of his is crazy on it's own) and the fact that I read he is like 6'1'' and about 155, I think he would have been a wonderful Joker as well.

Not baggining on Ledger though...if Nolan thinks he's good enough..he's good enough.

[Mr. Gray]

What we must remember is that these will be very dark interpretations of the characters that will be The Dark Knight. I doubt that The Joker will be too much of a comedian as he was in Burton's film or even on the cartoon. His brand of humor will be much more sinister.

[DarkKnight81]

Batmanonfilm.com has thrown another strange log into the fire:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/DaCrowdPleeza/foxxandoscar_gallery__408x550.jpg

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Batmanonfilm.com has thrown another strange log into the fire:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/DaCrowdPleeza/foxxandoscar_gallery__408x550.jpg
Oh...dear God...please no....I can't fucking stand Jamie Fox.

I thought Jett said he was done posting rumors for Harvey.

[Sigur509]

HELL FUCKING NO!

I can't stant that fucker.

[therealjohng]

Jamie Foxx is actually one of three supposed finalists for that part. But I can't remember who the other two are.

[The Young Son]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!

Don't get me wrong, I quite like Jamie Foxx, but he is TOTALLY wrong for this part. I know Nolan can get the best performance out of an actor, but Foxx is too......hip-hop to be Dent. NO WAY!

[HoboJoeBob]

Three words Eric fucking Bana


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1lj4FIsDU

[DarkKnight81]

Originally posted by HoboJoeBob
Three words Eric fucking Bana


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1lj4FIsDU

I'd be cool with that.

[The Heart Collector]

Jamie Foxx isn't going to happen, for obvious monetary reasons.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
I'd be cool with that.

[FiveDaze]

It wont be Foxx-- He doesnt shoot outside of the US after his bodyguard was killed during the shooting of Miami Vice....


Thank god... personally i think that would be horrible casting-- Nolan is not trying to follow the Burton formula, so i have no doubt dent will be min-late 30s clive owen type

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Jamie Foxx isn't going to happen, for obvious monetary reasons.

The other 'new' candidate is Edward Norton. So, obviously money has nothign to do with it.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by FiveDaze
It wont be Foxx-- He doesnt shoot outside of the US after his bodyguard was killed during the shooting of Miami Vice....


What? I never read that. Damn.

[FiveDaze]

yup... The Kingdom was shot mostly here in arizona for that reason--- there will be some shit that they shot in Dubai, but not Foxx

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by FiveDaze
Thank god... personally i think that would be horrible casting-- Nolan is not trying to follow the Burton formula, so i have no doubt dent will be min-late 30s clive owen type

I still like Clive for the part, but Denzel is my primary choice.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I still like Clive for the part, but Denzel is my primary choice.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I still like Clive for the part
The last thing this movie needs is Owen's terrible American accent fucking it up.

[DarkKnight81]

After watching Memento again last night I think that Guy Pierce is the absolute best choice.

[Solomon Grundy]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
After watching Memento again last night I think that Guy Pierce is the absolute best choice.

I'm still partial to Liev Schreiber but this wouldn't disappoint me in the least.

[bigred760]

I don't see Jamie Foxx doing it; he's already got a lot on his plate and I don't think Nolan will pay him what he usually takes in nowadays. I don't think he'd be entirely wrong for the role, but I think there are better candidates out there; many have already been mentioned.

[therealjohng]

Liev Schrieber or Josh Lucas would be my top choices. Both are excellent actors who could handle the role without difficulty.

[DarkKnight81]

Seeing as the Harvey Dent character will probably be a huge role in The Dark Knight and Two Face the main villain in the sequel and this movie starts filming in March, I'd really like to know who the fuck it is.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by The Young Son
The last thing this movie needs is Owen's terrible American accent fucking it up.

Touche. You just reminded me why I originally wrote him off.

It's moot anyway. Denzel is the dude for the job.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Touche. You just reminded me why I originally wrote him off.

It's moot anyway. Denzel is the dude for the job.

:p

I'd be cool with Denzel, but the only thing I have an issue with there is the age. We know Nolan likes to use younger actors.

[FiveDaze]

Dent is going to be white.... like in the comics...


the last thing that Nolan wants is to follow Tim Burton's footsteps.... he is not going to rehash the original 89 version.


denzel is not in the running

you can keep hoping but its useless

[bigred760]

I don't think Nolan has to worry about rehashing Burton's footsteps; if Dent is black, he's black. I just don't think it'll be Denzel because Denzel is kind of old for the part - I think.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by The Young Son
:p

I'd be cool with Denzel, but the only thing I have an issue with there is the age. We know Nolan likes to use younger actors.

Neeson? Cain?

[FiveDaze]

dent is a younger character--- 30s same as bruce... go read The Long Halloween

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Neeson? Cain?

Don't forget Oldman (it's kind of in the name, isn't it? :D). But still, I agree with the others - Nolan will want to an actor along the same age as Bruce Wayne.

[gyro_44]

It would be cool if Nolan gave Guy Pearce a part. Edward Norton, Liev Schrieber... sound like excellent choices too.

Nolan directs actors well. I have enough faith in Heath Ledger to predict that his Joker is going to blow us all away.

I just can't fucking wait for this movie.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Neeson? Cain? I'm talkin' villains. Granted, Neeson is older.

But look at Murphy & Ledger.

[shawn-o]

look im not trying to be racist here but whats with all the black candidates? harvey dent was never black, only in the movies has he ever been black...i want guy pierce or liev or josh lucas...not denzel or foxx i like those two actors, but they arnt gonna look right, im not being racist

[adamjohnson]

Yeah, its just one of those things.

Alot fo folks, (not me) also argue HEAVILY that the dent in the animated series was black too.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by bigred760
Don't forget Oldman (it's kind of in the name, isn't it? :D). But still, I agree with the others - Nolan will want to an actor along the same age as Bruce Wayne.

I don't get why everyone's pulling the age card on Denzel. Yeah, he's in his forties, but he doesn't even come close too looking it. The guy has aged very well, and I'd say him playing a 30-something dude is quite believable.

[ilovemovies]

Denzel is actually 50 years old.

He don't look it but he is.

[DarkKnight81]

My take on the whole "Black Harvey" thing is i'd rather have a great black actor, Denzel or Terrence Howard, play Harvey then an average white actor, Ryan Phillip. My top votes are still Pearce and Schreiber but I'm not against a black Harvey Dent. It's more in the performance than the look. And for the record, whoever stil contests that Harvey was black in the cartoon is out of their mind.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/BatFriend514/twoface1.jpg
Maybe Italian.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f136/BatFriend514/twoface1.jpg
Maybe Italian.



I always pictured Sylvester Stallone whenever I watched that show and Two Face would appear.

[FiveDaze]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
[B]My take on the whole "Black Harvey" thing is i'd rather have a great black actor, Denzel or Terrence Howard, play Harvey then an average white actor, Ryan Phillip.


i agree 100%... I have no doubt that Nolan will cast a good actor over the right look, any day... and knowing Nolan, I can guarantee he will be both...


Yesterday JETT @ Batman-on-film reported:

According to PRODUCTION WEEKLY, THE DARK KNIGHT has been in production since January 11th -- which should be no surprise to anyone. Anyway y'all, it's here and it'll be with us until TDK hits screens in July of '08. Let's just get on with announcing that cast, shall we? ;)

excited much?



indeed

[Mr. Gray]

The creators of the animated series said the show was heavily influenced by the Burton films, but they specifically made Harvey Dent look that way so that his race could be subject to debate....

I'm definitely for a black Dent, and have been for a while. Yes, I know that the only black portrayal of him was Batman '89, but I also think its time to update the most comic adaptations to be more modern, as there are much more varying racial ethinicities here in America. I mean, I can only think of maybe 3 black characters in the world of Gotham which I think is kind of ridiculous nowadays. I'm not saying they need to change any of the comic characters, but as far as the films go, it'd be nice to see some different characters be depicted by different races....hope that makes sense.

Ofcoarse, I'm also black, so maybe I have a slight bias....;)

[APzombie]

Age and race don't bother me either. Just as long as there is talent behind it. I honestly dont think the names mentioned will get the part. If only because they are the obvious guesses, and Nolan hardly ever does the obvious choice, let alone the choices that have been floating around the internet.

[Mr. Gray]

Btw, though I am all for a black Harvey Dent.....for the love of GOD.....NO JAMIE FOXX!!!!

[adamjohnson]

Matt Damon apparently has turned down the role.

AND NO MORE KAITE HOLMES - been 'unofficially' confirmed by numeroussources.

[DarkKnight81]

I dont care if Katie Holmes comes back or not but I'd rather they didnt include the Rachel Dawes character all together. As far as Harvey goes I guess I like Ed Norton out of those three names but I'm not ecstatic about any of them.

[therealjohng]

I guess I'm the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Josh Lucas taking on this role. I think he would be perfect.

[Solomon Grundy]

Originally posted by therealjohng
I guess I'm the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Josh Lucas taking on this role. I think he would be perfect.

For me, it's not so much that I wouldn't like him in the role, it's that there are just a handful of others I'd prefer over him.

Really though, I, as many others do, trust in Nolan. So I'll be content with whoever he chooses.

Except maybe for Foxx. :p

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by therealjohng
I guess I'm the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Josh Lucas taking on this role. I think he would be perfect.

I have no doubt he could handle the sinister aspect of the role fine, I just have doubts whether or not he could pull off the nice-guy side. He has this sleazy, conniving aora about him at all times that would rub against what the role requires. It's important for us to really like Harvey Dent in this movie, so that the contrast recieves the desired effect in the next one.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I have no doubt he could handle the sinister aspect of the role fine, I just have doubts whether or not he could pull off the nice-guy side. He has this sleazy, conniving aora about him at all times that would rub against what the role requires. It's important for us to really like Harvey Dent in this movie, so that the contrast recieves the desired effect in the next one.
I totally agree.

[ilovemovies]

I might be the only one, but I'm actually very disappointed that Katie Holmes isn't returning.

[DarkKnight81]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I might be the only one, but I'm actually very disappointed that Katie Holmes isn't returning.

I'd only dissapointed if we find out in the script that the Joker bashes her head in with a giant hammer.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I might be the only one, but I'm actually very disappointed that Katie Holmes isn't returning.

I'm disappointed that Nolan is planning on re-casting the character. I hate re-casting.

Speaking of that article on the frontpage, Joblo made a very interesting pick with Ryan Gosling. I'm kinda half and half on that. While I dont think he looks the part, as in his face isn't symmetrical enough and he needs a lot more bulk, after seeing him in The Believer the other day I'd be lying if I said the idea didn't hold some appeal for me. Then again, he doesn't really have the voice for it either.

Still, he's a fantastic actor, and a hell of a lot better than Jamie fucking Foxx.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I'm disappointed that Nolan is planning on re-casting the character. I hate re-casting.

According to the JoBlo's page, she "chose" not to return. Whatever.

But I also hate recasting.

[soda]

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
I'd only dissapointed if we find out in the script that the Joker bashes her head in with a giant hammer.

I agree with your sentiment in toto, I much prefer laughing gas, the stick of dynamite and the fall from a long cliff. Bashing someone's head in is so pedestrain, he might as well shoot her with a gun, both of which are things Mr. J would never lower himself to. I'm so glad we all agree that Rachel Dawes has to die, and that the death should be above the standards of the proleteriat. I'm not against recasting the part, so long as the screentime is minimal and the death scene is fast and swift. Nolan totally revived Batman with Begins, and, to my mind, just about the only part of the movie that sucked ass was Katie Holmes' performance as Rachel Dawes. Terribly miscast, I would think Holmes would be better suited for the role of the reaper than for that of Dawes.

[The Young Son]

After many watches of Begins, I still can see nothing wrong with Holmes' performance. I don't get where all the hate is coming from. She holds her own very well against the other actors.

I can't say that her character was necessary though, and I hate the idea of recasting if Dawes is set to return. Recasting ruins the flow of films. If they plan on killing Dawes off, then I would like to see Holmes come back even if for a five minute scene and then die. Just so the continuity isn't broken.

I didn't think Nolan would stoop to a recast, instead just write her out of the script or something.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by The Young Son
After many watches of Begins, I still can see nothing wrong with Holmes' performance. I don't get where all the hate is coming from. She holds her own very well against the other actors.

I can't say that her character was necessary though, and I hate the idea of recasting if Dawes is set to return. Recasting ruins the flow of films. If they plan on killing Dawes off, then I would like to see Holmes come back even if for a five minute scene and then die. Just so the continuity isn't broken.

I didn't think Nolan would stoop to a recast, instead just write her out of the script or something.

I'm guessing that, given Chris and company have been working on the script for some time now, the character of Rachel Dawes is integral to the story, making the prospect of writing her out particularly arduous. So, pretty much, Katie Holmes totally fucked over everyone, which is typical of a troll-faced socialite bitch like her. I mean, under the notion that her character does in fact get killed off, how much shooting would that involve? 2 weeks? 3, tops? She can't clear that much time out of her schedule? Even if she did just have a kid, is that much time really going to mean much? What a whore. It's okay though; she's a Scientologist, so she has a reserved seat in the deepest most terrible section of hell. She'll get hers.

[Mr. Gray]

A spokeswoman for Katie Holmes has given The Wall Street Journal a comment on why she won't be returning as Rachel Dawes in the Batman Begins sequel, The Dark Knight.

"We never got to the negotiating stage" for the film, said Julie Polkes, Holmes' representative. "Katie was offered ["Dark Knight"] but was unable to accept the role because of scheduling conflicts. She was in the process of negotiating for another project.

Instead, Holmes will star in "Mad Money" with Queen Latifah which starts shooting in a couple of months with a budget of only $12 million.


what a stupid bitch.

i'm in awe....

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
Instead, Holmes will star in "Mad Money" with Queen Latifah which starts shooting in a couple of months with a budget of only $12 million.


She needs to fire her agent, representative, or husband. Why in the hell would she pass over The Dark Knight to do a low(er) budget flick with Queen Latifah? That's really hard to believe.

[FiveDaze]

Katie seems to be more of a puppet than ever... This has to be due to those fucking Scientogists and Tom Cruise


not that i care... she wasnt brilliant by any means... but at least she wasnt such a stooge

I think the film will be better because shes not in it personally... She doesnt seem, to me, to be the type to put ideas on the table-- which in turn gives us (as the audience) a flat performance.

Any good actor can take a role and shape it, make it their own... As a filmmaker myself, those are the actors I want to work with; Bale, Cain, Neeson-- De Niro, Edward Norton is one, Clive Owen is one, DiCaprio, Damon, Nicholson, Tom Cruise WAS one....

Nolan obviously knows that she probably wasn't all there when they were shooting, and then she completely lost it-- whatever was there about the time of the premiere.

Fuck Katie Holmes.... shes lame anyways.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I'm guessing that, given Chris and company have been working on the script for some time now, the character of Rachel Dawes is integral to the story, making the prospect of writing her out particularly arduous. So, pretty much, Katie Holmes totally fucked over everyone, which is typical of a troll-faced socialite bitch like her. I mean, under the notion that her character does in fact get killed off, how much shooting would that involve? 2 weeks? 3, tops? She can't clear that much time out of her schedule? Even if she did just have a kid, is that much time really going to mean much? What a whore. It's okay though; she's a Scientologist, so she has a reserved seat in the deepest most terrible section of hell. She'll get hers.

"scooper extraordinaire Shannon recently alerted us to a post over at Batman supersite Batman-on-Film in which they mention that Rachel McAdams may be the frontrunner for the role, though she may decline as the role apparently amounts to little more than a glorified cameo at the beginning of the film...."

Holmes, you fucking cunt.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
"scooper extraordinaire Shannon recently alerted us to a post over at Batman supersite Batman-on-Film in which they mention that Rachel McAdams may be the frontrunner for the role, though she may decline as the role apparently amounts to little more than a glorified cameo at the beginning of the film...."

Holmes, you fucking cunt.

OMFG, it was literally a 2 week shoot. And we would have got to see Katie Holmes killed! Godamnit....what a dirty slut.

[ilovemovies]

This is hilarious. People bitched about how out of placed and miscast Katie Holmes was in Batman Begins and now they are calling her names because she opted not to be in the movie?!

[soda]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
This is hilarious. People bitched about how out of placed and miscast Katie Holmes was in Batman Begins and now they are calling her names because she opted not to be in the movie?!

I'll be the first person to admit I might be a little too hard on Katie Holmes. It's completely possible that I saw her scenes in Batman Begins at a disadvantage, because when I saw them, the curtain in the movie theatre was up. I'm not blaming her for wanting to not do the sequel, she took a lot of heat for her performance in Begins, most of it justified, I might add. No matter how horrible an actress she actually is, she still has an ego, and wouldn't want to show up just to get her character killed off. The one part of this thing that mystifies me is the people who think she's a decent actress, her work is so wooden and forced, she brought absolutely nothing to her role.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by soda
The one part of this thing that mystifies me is the people who think she's a decent actress, her work is so wooden and forced, she brought absolutely nothing to her role.

I think she's a good actress. I don't think she was bad at all in the movie. However, she's been much better elsewhere.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I just have doubts whether or not he could pull off the nice-guy side. He has this sleazy, conniving aora about him at all times that would rub against what the role requires.



You should watch Glory Road. He was a pretty nice guy in that.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
This is hilarious. People bitched about how out of placed and miscast Katie Holmes was in Batman Begins and now they are calling her names because she opted not to be in the movie?!

First of all, no, it's not hilarious. It's not even fucking chuckle worthy. Not only was she a blight on Begins, suffocating every scene she was in, but now she's fucking up the continuity of the second. She's ruining an aspect of the film, without even being in it. I'd say that constitues a little bitching, and bitch I shall.

You should watch Glory Road. He was a pretty nice guy in that.

See, maybe it's just me, but there was something greasy and untrustworthy about him even in that role. It's just something about the way his speech and expressions. They scream, "BADGUY!"

Sorry John, I will not be swayed. And I still want Denzel.

[therealjohng]

I can't fucking win with this crowd.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by therealjohng
I can't fucking win with this crowd.

Neither can Katie Holmes.

[Mr. Gray]

Eckhart for Dent?
Author: Jett
Friday, February 2, 2007 - 5:00 AM My friends over at LATINO REVIEW are reporting that 38 year old Aaron Eckhart is in the mix to play Harvey Dent in THE DARK KNIGHT. They also mention another candidate for the recast Rachel Dawes: Maggie Gyllenhaal.

Eckhart, who was once linked to the role of Jim Gordon during the Darren Aronofsky/Frank Miller YEAR ONE days, would be a HELL of a choice for Dent if this comes to fruition. I like Eckhart for Dent over Jamie Foxx or Ed Norton -- I certainly give it a thumbs up! As far as the 29 year old Gyllenhaal as Dawes, I guess she's be OK. She sort of favors Katie Holmes in a way, as pointed out by several BOF'ers.

http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/0/601.jpg

Meh

I could maybe live with that.....

[SuperRO]

The casting is one thing that doesn't bother me at all! Nolan is the man!!! So he knows exactly who to pick... so whatever his choices are... they will surely work!

BUT.. You know what worries me??

BATMAN is supposed to be a comic! It must has fantastic elements and villains that defies all the laws even the gravity!

I honestly think that I haven't seen a REAL Batman until today!

I admit it... I loved both versions of Burton

I hated Schumacher versions!

I expected much more from Nolan! Too much "bla bla f**cking blah" (long live crank!)

I dunno wheter I am the only one who thinks this way but... i don't want to know where the heroe gets his toys... i want to see him use them!

When I go to watch an action film, i expect a good story but i hated when i have to sit and watch for more than an hour before the action really begins!

Burton's versions both started with batman kicking as***!!! And the Dark Knight was really a dark one, even with a slight, but dark humor. If only Bale was there at time! They would have been perfect!

Well, that's my opinion... hopefully this one becomes the real deal... batman... a dark knight hunting down all sorts of real bad guys that act and don't talk much! Hopefully!

[FiveDaze]

well i wouldn't be surprised if this one jumps right into the action--- bats will already be established, so we wont have to wait 45 mins till he comes out

[FLAME_ON]

Yeah I really see them opening the movie with an action sequence... maybe a car chase after a bank robbery or even showing the start of the investigation of the Joker doing something since he's already established as being the Joker

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
[i]Eckhart for Dent?

http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/0/601.jpg

Meh

I could maybe live with that.....
I could definitely live with that... Eckhart is the man, and could certainly play one intimidating SOB.

I just wish they would cast the damn thing officially, all this teasing is anticlimactic.

[therealjohng]

Aaron Eckhart is a great actor, one of the best right now. But I cannot see him as Dent, I just can't.

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by therealjohng
Aaron Eckhart is a great actor, one of the best right now. But I cannot see him as Dent, I just can't. Agreed.

What is is with you people bitching about no action for the first hour of the Begins.

You know, there is a reason why he called it BATMAN BEGINS. Fuck.

When I go to watch an action film, i expect a good story but i hated when i have to sit and watch for more than an hour before the action really begins!

Yeah okay. Run along and watch Armageddon.

[the clever guy]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
Eckhart for Dent?


http://dvdtoile.com/ARTISTES/0/601.jpg

Meh

I could maybe live with that.....


i really dont see much of a problem here. eckhart is pretty good actor. i had problems with ledger being the joker, but its growing on me. i think eckhart is the last person any of us would have thought of, to be honest....althought this isnt OFFICIALLY confirmed, or set in stone....hes only the frontrunner.


Holmes, you fucking cunt.

'nuff said on that subject....

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by The Young Son
Yeah okay. Run along and watch Armageddon.

Oh snap! Would you like some ointment for that burn?

I like Eckhart for Dent, and am a little ashamed I hadn't though of him before. I still want Denzel, but I could definetely live with Eckhart.

Here's my Dent test. Basically, I take whatever actors in question, and picture them emerging from the shadows in the split suit with one hand shoved into their pocket and the other flipping a coin while asking something sinister in their best 'gruff' voice like, "Heads or Tails?" (Just an example, I'm perfectly aware that question would be completely moot).

[gyro_44]

On an offshoot: I think Heath Ledger is going to rock as The Joker. I'm gaining more respect for the guy's professional and artistic choices lately and he's showing us that he can really act. As long as Nolan does the character right, and there's a damn good chance of that, I think he could knock it out the park. So yeah, I called it. Totally.

[TylerDurden182]

I could live with Eckhart.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
I could live with Eckhart.

I could too, but I want to see Norton so bad..

[Backstabba]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
I could too, but I want to see Norton so bad..

Norton could play Poison Ivy, and I'd LOVE IT.
But, I can like with Eckhart.

[Solomon Grundy]

Eckhart is probably about 4th or 5th on my list. Surely he'd make a great Dent but can he handle Two-Face?

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by gyro_44
On an offshoot: I think Heath Ledger is going to rock as The Joker. I'm gaining more respect for the guy's professional and artistic choices lately and he's showing us that he can really act. As long as Nolan does the character right, and there's a damn good chance of that, I think he could knock it out the park. So yeah, I called it. Totally.

Did Ledger ever actually attend an audition, or did Nolan just call his people up and say, "I want Heath?" For the most part Nolan has a pretty solid casting record, but his decision to include the infamous Katie Holmes slightly marrs that reputation for me. However, if an audition did indeed go down, then I have the utmost confidence in Nolans choice.

[mettt]

I wasn't blown away by Katie Holmes performance in the first flick, but then again the rest of the cast was playing sooo good so it was hard to be noticed. What i expect from this flick would something like this: rachel is killed and mr batman goes on rampage, even darker setting, focussing on the new bad guy, joker.. then he meets his new love intrest, (mcadams would be great).. Knowing Nolan he will throw an extra twist to it all making it just a bit more cool then usual :)

ps. Eckhart would be great as Dent imo, that guy can act... then again i never seen him in a seriously badguy/manic role..

[bigred760]

I don't see another love interest happening; though I do see Rachel Dawes being killed off; though if she's killed off, why wouldn't Katie Holmes be available for a day or two for Pete's sake.

I like the idea of Eckhardt as Dent; he could pull it off really well.

And I believe Heath Ledger did audition; or at least talk with Nolan for a wee bit.

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by bigred760


And I believe Heath Ledger did audition; or at least talk with Nolan for a wee bit.

Heath pretty much did nothing.

[ElderPredator]

I cannot believe that I never thought of Eckhart as Harvey Dent, holy shit! That's awesome news and I really hope it turns out to be true. He is a terrific actor and would be perfect for the character, especially as Two-Face later on. He is very underrated and being in this movie will finally put him on the map.

[Mr. Gray]

Just remembered that Katie Holmes was in Thank You For Smoking with Eckhart. Maybe if he gets the part, she'll consider returning.....

I dunno.....

What am I thinkin? Fuck that bitch.....good riddance......

[fooknasty]

Eckhart could pull it off nicely, but I don't know about re-casting Rachel. That just sounds dumb, especially if it is for only a cameo in the beginning.

[adamjohnson]

Im sure Nolan and WB are none too pleased that allll Katie did during press-time for Begins was talk about her damn husband.

Re-cast the 16-year old.

[shawn-o]

Originally posted by The Young Son
Agreed.


Yeah okay. Run along and watch Armageddon.

HAHAHA YES!!!

exactly. theres a reason why it was called batman begins...in the first beginnings of any movie there isnt going to be lots of action look at the first Matrix aside from its sequels

oh and i really wish alsoo that they would stop rumoring all these dent ideas and just get it over with

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by adamjohnson
Heath pretty much did nothing.

Thought so.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
For the most part Nolan has a pretty solid casting record, but his decision to include the infamous Katie Holmes slightly marrs that reputation for me.

Katie Holmes' addition to the IMMENSELY talented cast of Batman Begins can EASILY be seen as a push from the studios to have a familiar face in the cast that would appeal to overly cash-laden teenagers.

Just look at the cast and tell me if this is a group that teenagers (not movie savvy schmoes) run to see or are even aware of who they are or their filmographies:


Michael Caine
Morgan Freeman
Rutger Hauer
Liam Neeson
Christian Bale
Gary Oldman

Not exactly looking like the cover of Teen Beat is it?

Nolan so obviously didn't want Holmes for the role, which is pretty well evident by how little time she got on screen. But what little time she had made me cringe and I'm sure Nolan did as well.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by adamjohnson
Heath pretty much did nothing.
Your proof?

I heard that he auditioned.

[adamjohnson]

Check Batman-on-Film.

[fooknasty]

I read on Batman-On-Film that Heath had to do some sort of audition. Anyways, I doubt they would just hand him this part without auditioning. Movies like these ( I mean comic book movies) you MUST audition, you can't just become Batman or the Joker without giving some sort of depiction of the character and trying on the costumes, etc.

[Mr. Gray]

FOXX WILL NOT BE PLAYING DENT

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2007/02/07/jamie_foxx_won_t_appear_as_two_face_in_u

*Hits knees and thanks God*

Also....thought I'd share this too

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9664/twofacegy8rp8.jpg

I'm starting to have a really good feeling that Eckhart is gonna get the role. He wasn't and still isn't my #1 choice, but like I said before, I could live with it. He certainly has the best look for the role (as opposed to Phillppe or Norton)

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/5188/twoface3ha9.jpg (looks suspiciously like Tommy Lee Jones, eh?)

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Mr. Gray
FOXX WILL NOT BE PLAYING DENT

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2007/02/07/jamie_foxx_won_t_appear_as_two_face_in_u

*Hits knees and thanks God*

Also....thought I'd share this too

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9664/twofacegy8rp8.jpg:
Cool picture!

I wish they'd hurry up and announce Eckhart as Dent already. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

[adamjohnson]

Yeah, me too. Though my #1 choice is still Liev Schreiber, just check out his job on CSI. But Eckhart is LIGHTYEARS better than Foxx, Norton orPhillipe. (Though Phillippe is my #2)

[therealjohng]

Liev Schreiber would be a perfect fit for me. After him of course would be Josh Lucas. Will not give up on that guy.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by therealjohng
Liev Schreiber would be a perfect fit for me. After him of course would be Josh Lucas. Will not give up on that guy.

Hey, I was pulling for Schreiber from the beginning, but when he was reportedly offered the role and turned it down, I turned my back on that mofo. And you know my position on Lucas.

That manip with Eckhart looks really, really lame. Seeing that makes me not want him for the role. His face is too long.

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Hey, I was pulling for Schreiber from the beginning, but when he was reportedly offered the role and turned it down, I turned my back on that mofo. And you know my position on Lucas.

That manip with Eckhart looks really, really lame. Seeing that makes me not want him for the role. His face is too long.

the guy who did it said it was done in only a few minutes, but i thought it was pretty good conceptually.....

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
That manip with Eckhart looks really, really lame. Seeing that makes me not want him for the role. His face is too long.
Makes me wonder... will they split his Two Face look right down the middle of his large bum chin?

[Boner X-Ray]

I think Eckhart is a great actor, and that it would be sweet if he was cast. Man, I can't wait for this movie.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by gyro_44
Makes me wonder... will they split his Two Face look right down the middle of his large bum chin?

This is a very good question. At first I had qualms about his gynormous ass-chin, but the more I think about it I realize that his chin only contributes to the feel of the movie, seeing as how it resembles something of a characature (sp?), and belongs in a comic book movie.

[fooknasty]

I hope they don't do the scarring right down the middle, ala Batman Forever. I hope it is more rigged and deformed than just bumps and sores on his face.

[bigred760]

Nolan is bringing something new, or at least unexpected, to the Joker, so I wouldn't be suprised if the same was done with Two-Face.

[BrandonMan]

Nolan says he's going for "a more realistic take" so he likely won't be doing a scarred line down the middle of Dent's face, but I do hope it's more pronounced than just some sores on one side.

Also, declined or not, I vote for Liev Screiber. Eckhart's a respectable actor, but for the part of Dent, he would have nothing on Liev.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by BrandonMan
Nolan says he's going for "a more realistic take" so he likely won't be doing a scarred line down the middle of Dent's face, but I do hope it's more pronounced than just some sores on one side.

Also, declined or not, I vote for Liev Screiber. Eckhart's a respectable actor, but for the part of Dent, he would have nothing on Liev.

It depends on which origin he chooses. Personally, I prefer the animated series origin to the comic, where Dent is lying facedown on a grate and acid explodes up through, opposed to the whole perturbed Maroni flinging some solvent in his face during a court appearance.

If Nolan casts someone to play Maroni, then we'll know. That's if they ever get around to casting this bitch...

[Mr. Gray]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
It depends on which origin he chooses. Personally, I prefer the animated series origin to the comic, where Dent is lying facedown on a grate and acid explodes up through, opposed to the whole perturbed Maroni flinging some solvent in his face during a court appearance.

If Nolan casts someone to play Maroni, then we'll know. That's if they ever get around to casting this bitch...

Nah....havin' a character throw acid in his face is essential, imo. I think it better establishes some of Dent's hatred, as this was no mere accident that caused this to happen to him, Since The Joker is going on trial, I just assumed that it'd be Mr. J who does the deed. This would further define how Batman and Two-Face approach justice, since Batman would only want to capture The Joker while Two-Face will want to kill him....

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/527/twoface2zw0.jpg

[ElderPredator]

ECKHART ALL THE WAY!

[APzombie]

Eckhart sounds great, I really, really hope he lands the role.

- I'm really hesitant in getting behind another Dawes, I hate Holmes as much as anyone but the distraction of a recast is far worse than the annoyance of Katie, esspecially if its Maggie G. I would rather her come back given that the character dies (hehe) than have another actress.

- Latest news is that Morgan Freeman hasn't been contacted for any filming. :( I hope they can wrtie Fox in the film somehow.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by APzombie
- Latest news is that Morgan Freeman hasn't been contacted for any filming. :( I hope they can wrtie Fox in the film somehow.

That would be a shame if he didn't return in some form or another; I'd take a cameo appearance. His role in the first was to show how Batman got all of his "toys," but now that he owns the company, Bruce Wayne can get anything he wants. But if Morgan Freeman can do Evan Almighty, you'd think he could get in to The Dark Knight.

[Danger^Cart]

For fucks sake, I wish they'd just cast the damn thing already...

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
For fucks sake, I wish they'd just cast the damn thing already... Nolan must get off on making the fans sweat in anticipation.

[Mr. Gray]

It's officially been confirmed:

Aaron Eckhart Has Been Cast AS D.A. Harvey Dent!

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3420/eckhart08vd3.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6954/aarondentwz4.jpg

[OpT!Mu5]

Yay...

I can seem him as an awesome Harvey Dent, but I dunno about Two-Face...

Hopefully Nolan has chosen wisely.

[therealjohng]

Godfuckingdamnit

[bigred760]

I think it's good casting. He can play both the cool guy that is Harvey Dent, and the mean mofo that is Two-Face. They couldn't have done much better.

[thedudeman69]

Fuck. damn it.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
Fuck. damn it.
So who's your ideal Harvey Dent?

Eckhart is a great choice if you ask me. Anyone who has seen In the Company of Men knows he can conjure a villainous side very easily. He is going to play a really good prick. I don't get what all the moaning and complaining is about. He fits well with Nolan's hard-ass realistic take on Batman.

[therealjohng]

I think he's capable of being the bad part of the role, I don't know if he's capable of playing the good part.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by therealjohng
I think he's capable of being the bad part of the role, I don't know if he's capable of playing the good part.

Opposite for me, but yeah, nothing is certain regarding his portrayal, that's for sure.

[fooknasty]

Such an awesome casting!! I am really glad they got such a talented/respectable actor for the role. I think he is going to do an awesome job with both sides of the character.

I cannot wait until filming starts on this!! :D

[The Young Son]

Originally posted by therealjohng
I think he's capable of being the bad part of the role, I don't know if he's capable of playing the good part.
Really? I can easily see him pull off the good side of the character, but am unsure about the villainous side.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by The Young Son
Really? I can easily see him pull off the good side of the character, but am unsure about the villainous side.


I guess I can see him being good, but, at the same time, he has that sneaky, grimy, slippery up to no good character. We'll see. Eckhart is one of my favorite actors. I'm pulling for him to pull it off.


Like I've always said, In Nolan I Trust.

[Boner X-Ray]

Originally posted by therealjohng
Eckhart is one of my favorite actors.

Then why are you doubting he will be able to pull it off? Hmmm.:)

I think this casting is genius. In Eckhart I trust.

Then again, in Nolan I trust as well, so I would have been happy if Jamie Kennedy was cast as Dent.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Boner X-Ray
I would have been happy if Jamie Kennedy was cast as Dent.


How about Matthew Lillard?

[Danger^Cart]

^^^ ROFL....

Just had a thought. How do you think they're going to do the voice for Big Bad Harv? I seriously doubt Eckhart can do the gravely croak of Dent's not so better half, so will they use someone else's?

Honestly, it could work out pretty well, and all it would take is some pretty simple camera manipulation/post production magic.

I mean, how awesome would it be to hear Aaron Eckhart's voice one minute, and then Clancy Browne's the next.

Hell fuckin' geah.

[adamjohnson]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
^^^ ROFL....

Just had a thought. How do you think they're going to do the voice for Big Bad Harv? I seriously doubt Eckhart can do the gravely croak of Dent's not so better half, so will they use someone else's?

Honestly, it could work out pretty well, and all it would take is some pretty simple camera manipulation/post production magic.

I mean, how awesome would it be to hear Aaron Eckhart's voice one minute, and then Clancy Browne's the next.

Hell fuckin' geah.

Dubbing an entire character never works unless they're DArth Vader or in full makeup.

Eckhart will do fine.

Im more concerned about Ledger's laugh.

[Danger^Cart]

They wouldn't be dubbing the entire character. That's kind of the point of Harvey Dent. They'd be dubbing half the character and, given the fact Big Bad Harv probably won't show up until the end of the movie or in a psychatrists office, if they decide to go that route, it would only be for a few scenes.

I think you're making out to be more difficult than it is. They could just have his head turned, or have his face cloaked in shadow while he speaks. If anything, this would add anticipation for when we do actually see his face. It'd be easy to do, man. The voice is a pretty important aspect of the character. It adds a lot to the dynamic.

I think Ledger will do fine.