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Jig Saw 666
10-08-2006, 09:50 AM
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Release Date Oct. 13, 2006

MPAA Rating: PG-13 for mature thematic material, disturbing images/terror/violence, and some sensuality.


Director(s) Takashi Shimizu


Writer(s) Stephen Susco


Genres: Suspense/Horror and Sequel

Cast Sarah Michelle Gellar, Amber Tamblyn, Jennifer Beals, Edison Chen, Eve Gordon



Plot:In Tokyo, a young woman is exposed to the same mysterious curse that afflicted her sister. The supernatural force, which fills a person with rage before spreading to its next victim, brings together a group of previously unrelated people who attempt to unlock its secret to save their lives.

Scarfather
10-08-2006, 10:32 AM
Looks like it could quite possibly be the stupidest movie of all time.

And I've seen the unedited Manos.

Bourne101
10-08-2006, 10:47 AM
Wow, this looks terrible. The first wasn't even that good and the plot for this looks like something a 10 year old made up. I will definitly be passing on this one.

ilovemovies
10-08-2006, 02:48 PM
This doesn't look bad per se, just really tired and boring. I actually really liked the first one but I'm starting to get really tired of ghost stories. This just looks like the same old, same old only minus any real style and atmosphere and suspense.

SPOILERS IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE TRAILER!












Plus, I hate that fucking trailer gives away that Sarah Michelle Gellar dies in the movie.

Lazy Boy
10-08-2006, 03:09 PM
The stringy haired, pasty ghost child genre is getting tired.

I could just as well make the croaking noise over the phone and get more or less the same reaction from my friends, that is, laughter.

ReiSoryuh
10-09-2006, 09:12 AM
What I wanna know is where did this creepy girl horror movie staple come from?

Nine outta ten horror flicks have a creepy girl some where in it. And they always look the same; pale, long messy black hair (most of the time covering most of the face), they crawl or walk weird.
Ya know what I'm saying?

I could make up a list if you need one

JackassFan
10-09-2006, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by Bourne101
I will definitly be passing on this one.

tlc3377
10-10-2006, 09:44 PM
Im a huge horror fan. This is on my list for this week!
and in the preview, there's a scene where the girl looks under her desk and sees the kid, that scared the shit out of me the first time i saw it!

CreeperBEATNGU
10-10-2006, 10:50 PM
This movie looks so pointless, yet so entertaining; plus I love Amber Tamblyn so I'm looking forward to it.

Badbird
10-11-2006, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Lazy Boy
The stringy haired, pasty ghost child genre is getting tired.


I find it funny how long it took people to figure out that there's pretty much only one horror movie in Japan and they keep making it over and over again.

As for the first Grudge... you know, I liked/hated it. There were some genuinely creepy and downright scary moments in that movie. Especially the under the covers ghost girl. Holy crap. Can you imagine some little kid staying up and watching that movie? They'd be scarred for life. Now they aren't safe under the covers anymore!

But what ruined the movie were the same ptfalls that affect every horror movie. Like how the ghosts conveniently wait until dark to start doing their creepy stuff for no real reason.

Now we get The Grudge 2. I see a lot of movies, and this trailer has been in front of every single one of them for the past two months.

I hate this trailer. Firt it getsreally, really loud and scary! ... then it gets quiet... then really loud! ... then really quiet... etc. And then it has that one massive spoiler right there in the middle that could have easily been edited out.

Plus the voiceover at the begining cracks me up:

Some sobbing woman: "There's been an accident"

Some girl: "NO!" - all breathy like - and she doesn't even know what happened, because then she says "What happened?"

Um, why did you freak out if you don't even know what's going on? Oh, wait, I'm expecting common sense from a horror movie. Whatever.

CreeperBEATNGU
10-12-2006, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Badbird
[B]I find it funny how long it took people to figure out that there's pretty much only one horror movie in Japan and they keep making it over and over again.

I noticed that as soon as I got into Japanese horror.

Lazy Boy
10-12-2006, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
I noticed that as soon as I got into Japanese horror.

Ditto, although Kiyoshi Kurosawa's brand of J-horror is pretty cool, more of a cerebral approach.

ANTBond007
10-13-2006, 02:22 AM
It's bad. A lot like the first, only with a little more story and a lot more boring. So it balances out.

Still not at all scary.

4/10

dellamorte dellamore
10-13-2006, 02:26 PM
Please , please , let this type of horror movie die already , or at the very least , give it a little break until they can add something fresh to it . The so called J horror genre had a nice run , until it became repetative . I mean , come on already , this is and was in comedic territory for a while now , a little kid with blue paint on his face , and what the hell is this heroin chick lookling black haired girl . I rather watch some cheap italian zombie movie for the 15th time then watch one of these long haired ghost offerings . One good thing about these types of films though , you can scare people who don't know much about horror with them , because seasoned veterans of the genre will jus laugh or sigh , or both at them .

CreeperBEATNGU
10-13-2006, 05:06 PM
I saw it at the midnight show and I was pleasantly surprised.

Amber is a much better lead and is much better characterized than Gellar was, Kayako is actually given depth and presence with a backstory to make her more than the generic pop up jump scare tool that she was last time, and Christopher Young's score was nerve-racking, it could make a Family Guy episode terrifying.

I was glad that Gellar had a minimal role. I was disappointed in her performance in The Grudge.

This is vastly superior to The Gruge, Ju-On: The Grudge, or Ju-On: The Curse...or all of them combined for that matter.

chinton
10-13-2006, 05:37 PM
I can't see this I just can't do it.

veddhead83
10-13-2006, 05:57 PM
***SPOILERS***

One of the most annoying movies of 2006!!! This film brought nothing new to the series or genre. This film reminds me of the retarded clone in "Multiplicity" - it is a clone of a clone - meaning it is a remake of the remake. The plot, the style and even some exact scenes are identical to the remake. They showed the same killing twice in this film, when we saw it twice in the remake a couple of years ago.

The ghosts were pathetic. All they did was move slowly towards the victims, scream like a cat, smother them in hair and fade away. Now that is scary!!!!! The story jumped all over the place making it very tiresome and increasingly irratable. Amber Tamblyn was pitiful as the lead - all she did was stare into nothingness and then cry. Dry it up girl and kick some Japanese ghost ass!!

One thing I didn't quite get was the shrink. How could she survive if she had been in that house?? Everyone else who had been in that house was currently being killed or was under attack from the pasty kids. It didn't make sense to me.

The genre of Japanese horror is fading fast. Hollywood needs to put a fork in it because it's done.

CreeperBEATNGU
10-13-2006, 06:59 PM
SPOILERS


Staring into nothingness and breaking down emotionally is pretty much the reaction someone has to being completely stunned, which is understandable under the circumstances; and she did toughen up emotionally by the end of the film, how Kayako got the way she was is adding something not there in The Grudge, and the shrink's death just wasn't shown, doesn't mean it didn't happen. She said went into the house with police, they aren't going to show the deaths of every random cop that went in the house with her either.
That's assuming that scene actually happened that way, the first film shows a woman see her brother at the door when he was already dead at the time and in fact not there, the ghosts can cause their victims to hallucinate.

ANTBond007
10-13-2006, 07:04 PM
I thought Tamblyn's performance was quite good, actually. Loved when she called her mom after her sister died and can't speak. She just has nothing to do. At all. She's in the plot thread that's presented as the main story, but turns out to have nothing to do with anything else. The schoolgirl plot is actually the main one, and that's pretty frickin' sad considering how bad the girls' acting is. Arielle Kebell was terrible.

P.S. Mr. Director, it's hard to take a crying girl who says, "What did I ever do to you?!", then runs out of a room seriously when she's wearing a porn school girl outfit.

veddhead83
10-13-2006, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
SPOILERS


Staring into nothingness and breaking down emotionally is pretty much the reaction someone has to being completely stunned, which is understandable under the circumstances; and she did toughen up emotionally by the end of the film, how Kayako got the way she was is adding something not there in The Grudge, and the shrink's death just wasn't shown, doesn't mean it didn't happen. She said went into the house with police, they aren't going to show the deaths of every random cop that went in the house with her either.
That's assuming that scene actually happened that way, the first film shows a woman see her brother at the door when he was already dead at the time and in fact not there, the ghosts can cause their victims to hallucinate. The shrink was dead???? Who knew???? If they are going to show everyone else's death in the film, why not hers?? Dude, she wasn't dead......Why would the school or building keep an office for a dead person??? Oh wait, they didnt want to show us that either......THE SHRINK WAS NOT DEAD!!!!!!
The acting was beyong bad - nobody in this film was memorable.

"Staring into nothingness and breaking down emotionally is pretty much the reaction someone has to being completely stunned, which is understandable under the circumstances," in those circumstances a normal person would be freaking out trying to get all of the help they can get. She then starts bumbling around with a Japanese guy (who just happens to speak perfect English w/out an accent, just like every other Japanese person in this film) investigating the murder in the house rather than caring about her dead sister who just fell off of a building. Why didn't she call home after that happened??

This film had way too many plot holes for anyone to ignore - even yourself. Come on, you can't possible like every crappy horror film - can you???

CreeperBEATNGU
10-13-2006, 07:23 PM
Great job of questioning things that have already been answered, and yet again shoving your opinion down someones throat as fact; your two specialties, since maturely and intelligently discussing films certainly isn't among them.

Again...

Q: The shrink was dead???? Who knew???? If they are going to show everyone else's death in the film, why not hers?? Dude, she wasn't dead......Why would the school or building keep an office for a dead person??? Oh wait, they didnt want to show us that either......THE SHRINK WAS NOT DEAD!!!!!!

A: That's assuming that scene actually happened that way, the first film shows a woman see her brother at the door when he was already dead at the time and in fact not there, the ghosts can cause their victims to hallucinate

"The acting was beyong bad - nobody in this film was memorable."

Compelling argument, but you forgot to throw some meaningless stats at me to "prove" it.

ANTBond007
10-13-2006, 07:26 PM
So...

Anyone else like to think the little kid gave the Japanese girl the 'ol Toshio Tongue Twirl in the hotel room?

Shockwave
10-13-2006, 08:42 PM
Im going to go see this. I have a bet thats its worse then THE RING 2.

My bro says its not possible, i say otherwise. Itll be close.:)

thedudeman69
10-13-2006, 08:45 PM
This looks like it will be a laughing good time because the effects are so stupid. I mean, they have the ghost kid hiding under the girl's desk.

ANTBond007
10-13-2006, 08:45 PM
It's much worse than The Ring Two.

But I liked Ring Two.

Cronos
10-13-2006, 09:01 PM
i attempted to watch the Grudge remake and nearly fell asleep and ended up just turning that boring pile of crap off. this looks just as bad

EDsoulsurvive*
10-14-2006, 12:42 AM
I loved The Gurdge and had a good time with this movie. Amber Tamblyn sucked and had hardly any dialogue, but the parallel stories kept it interesting, as did the sold out crowd of screamers i had the pleasure of seeing this with. Maybe round three will make more sense, though. Good times though, 7/10. And I'm shocked there's a person in this world that liked The Ring Two.

veddhead83
10-14-2006, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
Great job of questioning things that have already been answered, and yet again shoving your opinion down someones throat as fact; your two specialties, since maturely and intelligently discussing films certainly isn't among them.

Again...

Q: The shrink was dead???? Who knew???? If they are going to show everyone else's death in the film, why not hers?? Dude, she wasn't dead......Why would the school or building keep an office for a dead person??? Oh wait, they didnt want to show us that either......THE SHRINK WAS NOT DEAD!!!!!!

A: That's assuming that scene actually happened that way, the first film shows a woman see her brother at the door when he was already dead at the time and in fact not there, the ghosts can cause their victims to hallucinate

"The acting was beyong bad - nobody in this film was memorable."

Compelling argument, but you forgot to throw some meaningless stats at me to "prove" it.

What are you blabbing about??? You are not making any sense and just chill out.

SufjanWen
10-14-2006, 12:56 AM
probably go down as one of the funniest scary movie that is like unintentionally funny. It was so dumb and stupid I laugh all the way through. I love how they came up with a way to do sequel withouth having to use the boy and that jap woman cause their getting old. That way too hilarious. The GRudge 26. the little boy is much older now and when he scream that cat noise. his voice breaks a little as he reach puberty and the scary grudge lady loosen all her hair. and that noise she makes its actually sound recording of the actress as her bones breaks as he walks. This film is too hilarious.

veddhead83
10-14-2006, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by SufjanWen
probably go down as one of the funniest scary movie that is like unintentionally funny. It was so dumb and stupid I laugh all the way through. I love how they came up with a way to do sequel withouth having to use the boy and that jap woman cause their getting old. That way too hilarious. The GRudge 26. the little boy is much older now and when he scream that cat noise. his voice breaks a little as he reach puberty and the scary grudge lady loosen all her hair. and that noise she makes its actually sound recording of the actress as her bones breaks as he walks. This film is too hilarious.

How about the girl who pisses herself??? That was laugh-out-loud hilarious!!!!! One of the dumbest things I have seen in a long time!!!

EDsoulsurvive*
10-14-2006, 01:31 AM
I agree there was a shitload to laugh at in this movie. How bout the look on that guys face when she came out of the photo fluid?

TylerDurden182
10-14-2006, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by Bourne101
I will definitly be passing on this one.

veddhead83
10-14-2006, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by EDsoulsurvive*
I agree there was a shitload to laugh at in this movie. How bout the look on that guys face when she came out of the photo fluid? That was pretty lame too. Too bad they showed that in the trailer, that could have actually been scary....

MidnightAngel
10-15-2006, 11:49 AM
I've seen the original japanes eversion of The Grudge 2 and it has some scary scenes in the movie. Don't know if they screwed up this version. Maybei'll wait when it arrives on dvd.

ZenDude
10-15-2006, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by veddhead83
***SPOILERS***

One of the most annoying movies of 2006!!! This film brought nothing new to the series or genre. This film reminds me of the retarded clone in "Multiplicity" - it is a clone of a clone - meaning it is a remake of the remake. The plot, the style and even some exact scenes are identical to the remake. They showed the same killing twice in this film, when we saw it twice in the remake a couple of years ago.

The ghosts were pathetic. All they did was move slowly towards the victims, scream like a cat, smother them in hair and fade away. Now that is scary!!!!! The story jumped all over the place making it very tiresome and increasingly irratable. Amber Tamblyn was pitiful as the lead - all she did was stare into nothingness and then cry. Dry it up girl and kick some Japanese ghost ass!!

One thing I didn't quite get was the shrink. How could she survive if she had been in that house?? Everyone else who had been in that house was currently being killed or was under attack from the pasty kids. It didn't make sense to me.

The genre of Japanese horror is fading fast. Hollywood needs to put a fork in it because it's done.

I thought The Grudge was bad, and after reading your review of G2, I will stay away.

veddhead83
10-15-2006, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by ZenDude
I thought The Grudge was bad, and after reading your review of G2, I will stay away. It doesn't seem to matter if it is bad or not - it is #1 at the Box Office. BOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CreeperBEATNGU
10-15-2006, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by ZenDude
I thought The Grudge was bad, and after reading your review of G2, I will stay away.

If you think the movie looks like crap that's fine, but you shouldn't stay away from a movie based a review by someone that's pans practically every movie he sees.

dellamorte dellamore
10-15-2006, 12:53 PM
This is just great , atmospheric japanese horror ( the first 2 japanese versions ) filtered through mainstream sensabilities , who's sole purpose is to pander and make palatable real , actually effective , subtle horror for the uninitiated , clueless , ipod wearing , american idol watching , post art house johhny depp loving , fashion trend following , diet obsessed afflicted , red bull drinking , Lost watching , mainstream slaves , who wouldnt know Umberto lenzi from Kyoshi Kurosawa if Michele Soavi explained it to them . And what a sellout Shimizu is , but it's not that much of a surprise , he pretty much started his descent when he started to shoot the series on actual film , and he turned his back on the creepy look of video . Good luck Shim , your just a whore , you can't hold a candle to a true master of the genre , Kiyoshi Kurosawa . Like almost every mildly succesful director before them , they just want to be loved and accepted in holliswood circles , so they became a pawn in the system , oh well , they just cant help themselves .

chinton
10-15-2006, 01:21 PM
Yet it's not like the original Ju-On was any better. Talk about overrated.

jaw2929
10-15-2006, 02:08 PM
I enjoyed the first Grudge, but this doesn't really look all that interesting to me at all.... Usually I'd see it, just cuz I've seen the first... But I think I may just pass it up, I'm tired of these fucking PG-13 "horror" movies... I don't believe I'll ever see another one again.

CreeperBEATNGU
10-15-2006, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by chinton
Yet it's not like the original Ju-On was any better. Talk about overrated.

True, it's every bit as much of a paper thin, clusterfuck, jolt scare collage as The Grudge was.

Not to mention that the script is basically the same one from Ringu but with "house" thrown in where "tape" used to be.

veddhead83
10-15-2006, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
If you think the movie looks like crap that's fine, but you shouldn't stay away from a movie based a review by someone that's pans practically every movie he sees. Telling someone they shouldn't do something is pretty controlling. If someone reads a review and decides whether to watch a movie or not based upon that review is up to them. IMO a lot of movies out there are crap. Sorry, unlike you, I am not easily amused. By the way, I thought you were ignoring me?!?!?!

Mr. Fred Krueger
10-16-2006, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by veddhead83
Sorry, unlike you, I am not easily amused.

My, that's pretty...condescending.

CreeperBEATNGU
10-16-2006, 01:27 AM
Rarely does he post something that's not.

veddhead83
10-16-2006, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
Rarely does he post something that's not.

Prove it....

LarrytheTVDemon
10-17-2006, 07:36 PM
I saw this movie as a matinee opening weekend because I thought it may not be so good. Turn out not so bad,however, probably because of the lower expections. It also have an anothology vibe to it with multiple storylines, whick I really like. It was pretty good for a matinee at least.

Veddhead: Perhaps the ghost didn't kill the school doc right off, but allow her to linger on while she "infected" others around her allowing the ghost family to sustain the illusion of her still alive until they are ready to strike.

That my theory anyway.

I agree through that J-horror, at least the "pasty ghost" stuff, is getting old and needs to move on.

however, that may mean moving on to the Battle Royale remake. Are you ready for that. hehe.

Bourne101
10-17-2006, 08:14 PM
Well, I don't really no what to think. Only two things get explained from the first film. Why the girl makes that ghastly noise and why the girl kills everyone. This may be a good thing, because this movie could've been a lot worse.

The three plots all come together at the end, but in a way that no one should want it to come together. I'm sure I could've handled another 8 minutes in the theatre to mabye get a breif aftermath. But no the screen fades to black and we think something might happen, we wait for 10 seconds and the credits roll. Not exactly the best way to end a movie that could've been better, but could've been worse.

The acting was not great, the only one I thought was pretty good was Edison Chen, who seems like a solid young actor, but didn't get as much screen time as he should have. The lead actress wasn't very good and Gellar was only in the movie for breif moments.

I wasn't bored at all during the film. There were some nice jump scares, the ghosts were fun and some of the kills weren't too shabby for PG-13 horror. But the movie just has so many flaws. Not flaws that actually happend but flaws as in pieces of the puzzle that should've been there but weren't. I don't think a number 3 should be made, but mabye an extended DVD just to give us a crime report, investigation or something.

I guess if it is left like it is we can assume that everyone associated with the house died, but the girl was lead to the apartment and I guess they just ended it the way it ended so they could leave it open for a sequel. Which seems to be happening a lot lately with movies.

Overall, a bizarre movie with some nice jump scares that is a good way to pass 2 hours when it comes to DVD. Don't see it in theatres, there are many better movies to see than this.

5/10

tlc3377
10-17-2006, 10:41 PM
I hated this movie for several reasons.
1) The stories dont make any sense until the last 30 seconds, and by then you've already figured that part out.
2) The japanese schoolgirls were so "clueless" in the way they acted. I got a good laugh when the blond bimbo pissed herself tho!
3) Sarah Michelle Gellar should have been kept alive at least for the majority of this film. Her character supposedly knows how to stop the ghosts. She's dead so now too is the secret.
4) I never once jumped in this movie. It just wasnt there. I sat there making 'girlie screams' in the theater and people were laughing at me. Seems they found it as scary as i did!

I'm a huge horror fan, but this 1 tanks in my book.

CreeperBEATNGU
10-17-2006, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Bourne101
The acting was not great, the only one I thought was pretty good was Edison Chen, who seems like a solid young actor, but didn't get as much screen time as he should have. The lead actress wasn't very good and Gellar was only in the movie for breif moments.

Which was for the best considering her performance in The Grudge.
Considering how misused Tamblyn was even though she's the lead, she did a damn good job of elevating sub par material.
I thought Chen was just sort of there, nothing about his performance really stood out.

daddiefatsacks
10-18-2006, 01:08 AM
what the fuck was up with that scene with the chick with the milk????

this movie absolutely stunk, the only good thing coming out of it, is that it didnt end on a happy note.

3/10 - why the fuck did i even bother?

Lord Raiden
10-18-2006, 02:11 AM
Being one of the few who enjoyed the (unrated) The Grudge (despite it's many plot holes), this movie just pissed me off. Location change after another, cheap scares (that didn't get me once) and messing around with the original story (I didn't like the fact that the evil chick's mother is what made her evil). THE DESCENT easily remains the best horror film of 2006 and I can't wait to see SAW III to wash this bad taste out of my mouth.

3 OUT OF 10 :mad:

dellamorte dellamore
10-18-2006, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by tlc3377
I hated this movie for several reasons.

Spoilers

1) The stories dont make any sense until the last 30 seconds, and by then you've already figured that part out.

I always felt that the story line of the grudge films were simple and straightfoward , that's what i always liked about them , but in accordance with studio horror standards , a twist must be inserted in order to facilitate a sequel , regardless if it makes sense , and the spreading of the virus outside the house is nothing new , it was already dealt with in the japanese versions .

2) The japanese schoolgirls were so "clueless" in the way they acted. I got a good laugh when the blond bimbo pissed herself tho!

clueless schoolgirls are the target demographic for these films , they have to be in there .

3) Sarah Michelle Gellar should have been kept alive at least for the majority of this film. Her character supposedly knows how to stop the ghosts. She's dead so now too is the secret.

Apparently , stop adapting japanese horror films , that's the only way to stop these things :D . And , if they pay her enough to come back , i'm sure she can , even if it's a flashback or something , or maybe spirit form .


4) I never once jumped in this movie. It just wasnt there. I sat there making 'girlie screams' in the theater and people were laughing at me. Seems they found it as scary as i did!

LOL , sometimes thats the only enjoyment i get from cheesy mainstream horror films in the theater .

I'm a huge horror fan, but this 1 tanks in my book.

shoe1985
10-18-2006, 01:58 PM
This was by far the most boring horror movie I have ever seen. I fell asleep during it. The script was a mess. 3 stories that were poorly written. When I was awake, I just couldn't get into the stories. Everyone I talked too about the movie afterwards, said I didn't miss much.

I liked the first one, yes it was a remake, I hate remakes, but I thought it was a decent movie. Sarah carried the movie well. Amber is not close to carrying a movie yet.

The bad thing was that I was full awake and ready to have some fun with this movie.

1 out 5

Ender
10-18-2006, 04:20 PM
Well G2 was definitely creepy and had good atmosphere going for it (I scared the shat out of myself on the long walk home from the theatre. Lot of long shadows out East Ave that time of night...) and had one or two good scares ("I don't know what you're talking about. They're sitting right here." Brrrr), but for the most part this movie was a complete mess from one reel to another.

A big problem here was Kayako, who suffers from Freddy Krueger-like overexposure. Seemed like she got more screentime than any other "character" in the movie. It got very boring after a while. "Hmm, Kayako is staggering around. Now she's making that noise. Now she's having a fatal staring contest with Character X. Well, scratch that one off." This movie is basically a series of vignettes in which various characters all get bumped off in the same way, over and over again. THE GRUDGE 2 is about as redundant a movie as you can imagine: Redundant with the original, redundant with it's Japanese counterpart, and redundant with itself.

**MINOR SPOILERS***

But my biggest gripe is that nothing really happen, story-wise. The first GRUDGE at least hat a bit of a mystery to it, as we gradually discovered the nature of the haunting. But in THE GRUDGE 2, the audience is already in on that story, yet we still have to sit around and watch these characters try to put it all together again. We don't learn anything new about the curse. If you listened to the director's commentary on the DVD of the first, they already give away the origin of that horrible grinding noise Kayako makes (which isn't that big of a reveal anyway), and the bit about the "exorcisms" is not only lame and uninteresting but turns out to have nothing to do with the curse at all. And then ther'es the ending. That pissed me off more than anything. The ending of a film needs closure of some kind. Even if you're going to have a "bad" ending to your flick, you at least need some kind of reveal, revelation, twist, or at least a sense of finality (yes, they tried to give us a twist by the manner in which the three parallel stories wrapped up, but didn't most of us figure that out already?). But this movie just sort of peters out. "Whoops, no more characters left, better roll credits." Takashi Shimizu admitted in an interview that the writing team simply couldn't come up with a good way to end the curse. It showed. Christ, I can't imagine what they're going to do for the third movie. What, same plot but with a dozen more ghosts?

GRUDGE 2 doesn't have much that the first GRUDGE didn't, and the first GRUDGE didn't even have all that much in it's own right. This movie has enough quasi-decent scares in it to make for a passable late-night rental, but not much else.

dreamcurls
10-18-2006, 05:03 PM
I'll wait for video

EDsoulsurvive*
10-18-2006, 05:30 PM
While the movie was sort of stupid and rather illogical, boring is the last word I'd use to describe it. It felt like someone was gettin grudged every 30 seconds. The grudge was relentless this time around.

Shockwave
10-18-2006, 08:26 PM
Sam Raimi is killing his name with this shit.:(

Its like the Ring 2, but without the exellent first movie for it to fall back on.

3/10

CreeperBEATNGU
10-18-2006, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by daddiefatsacks
what the fuck was up with that scene with the chick with the milk????

this movie absolutely stunk, the only good thing coming out of it, is that it didnt end on a happy note.

3/10 - why the fuck did i even bother?

It was symbolic of her being cat-like(since Toshio's cat was part of the curse)now that she was being overtaken by the curse.

daddiefatsacks
10-19-2006, 03:12 AM
and the best they could do was have her drink milk (i totally belive your theory bro, but that's not the best method of showing it)

veddhead83
10-19-2006, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by CreeperBEATNGU
It was symbolic of her being cat-like(since Toshio's cat was part of the curse)now that she was being overtaken by the curse. I agree with daddie, it was something you would see in Jackass or something.

ladyshehulk
10-19-2006, 11:51 PM
I totally agree. I saw the first Grudge it made me fall asleep. After a while of sitting thought i just start guess where she'll would pop up next. It's like pop goes the weasel. Only two characters really had a relation to the first. It's obvious there's going to be a sequel which is going be worse. They need to stop. The Ring and The Grudge almost became the same movie your not sure what your watching but some piss up off keeping just killing people for damn reason. Like get your revenge and move the fuck on with you afterlife.











Originally posted by Badbird
I find it funny how long it took people to figure out that there's pretty much only one horror movie in Japan and they keep making it over and over again.

As for the first Grudge... you know, I liked/hated it. There were some genuinely creepy and downright scary moments in that movie. Especially the under the covers ghost girl. Holy crap. Can you imagine some little kid staying up and watching that movie? They'd be scarred for life. Now they aren't safe under the covers anymore!

But what ruined the movie were the same ptfalls that affect every horror movie. Like how the ghosts conveniently wait until dark to start doing their creepy stuff for no real reason.

Now we get The Grudge 2. I see a lot of movies, and this trailer has been in front of every single one of them for the past two months.

I hate this trailer. Firt it getsreally, really loud and scary! ... then it gets quiet... then really loud! ... then really quiet... etc. And then it has that one massive spoiler right there in the middle that could have easily been edited out.

Plus the voiceover at the begining cracks me up:

Some sobbing woman: "There's been an accident"

Some girl: "NO!" - all breathy like - and she doesn't even know what happened, because then she says "What happened?"

Um, why did you freak out if you don't even know what's going on? Oh, wait, I'm expecting common sense from a horror movie. Whatever.

Mr. Fred Krueger
10-20-2006, 10:53 AM
As someone who loved the first Grudge and both of the Ju-On movies, I must say that I was utterly disappointed with this film. This movie was just baaaaad. It seemed like Shimizu was just going through the motions here with his direction. The film really lagged (although it clocks in at an hour and a half, it felt more like 2 hours), and I didn't think it was ever going to end.




3/10.

veddhead83
10-20-2006, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Fred Krueger
As someone who loved the first Grudge and both of the Ju-On movies, I must say that I was utterly disappointed with this film. This movie was just baaaaad. It seemed like Shimizu was just going through the motions here with his direction. The film really lagged (although it clocks in at an hour and a half, it felt more like 2 hours), and I didn't think it was ever going to end.




3/10.

I warned you. It did seem endless - and pointless.

God of War
10-22-2006, 06:42 AM
I made some screen caps. Hope it's not too late to post them. There are 13 images I edited off the trailer. Personally, I'll go see it, but I don't kow how good it will be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge214.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge21.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge22.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge28.jpg

God of War
10-22-2006, 06:43 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge29.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge210.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge211.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge212.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v61/ChiefThunder/Movie%20Screens/grudge213.jpg

g05
10-23-2006, 06:56 PM
just got back from seeing this. had the whole theatre to myself which is always nice. the only thing that kept me going was seeing Kayako since i think she's a cutie. other than that i could've waited til dvd.

Mystique963
10-24-2006, 05:14 AM
I severly disliked this movie. I was mostly seeing it because I like Amber Tamblyn as an actress and I did enjoy this first one. But this one was a total waste of my time. Question: WHAT THE HELL WAS UP WITH THE MILK?!?! Seriously, that part really pissed me off because I had no idea what the fuck was going on. If any of you brilliant people could shed some light on that, it would be greatly appriciated.

The best part of the movie by far were the trailers. Got a nice one for the new Turistas which looks like it could have potential, mostly because I like Melissa George and I think she looks damn hot in those braids, and the trailer for The Messengers which I think looks pretty creepy.

DocPhosphorus
10-26-2006, 09:40 AM
PROUD to say that Grudge 2 wasn't THAT BAD (IMO), yes the film felt more like 2 hours and it was a bunch of cheap scares (none of which got me), bad acting, and a shitty.......

....wait a minute, oh yeah, now I remember, that movie sucked.

hahah, no but for real, Grudge 2 was more then dissapointing, screw this movie.

ilovemovies
11-08-2006, 03:29 AM
I was EXTREMELY mixed with this movie. I actually found the story to be very interesting even though it admittedly doesn't really add up to anything. But it nevertheless intrigued me while I was actually watching. That said, the way the movie kept shifting back and fourth between the three storylines felt awkward. Only in the last third did the movie really start to flow better. There are FAR too many boo scenes and NONE of them work. None of them are even remotely scary and more than a few of them are unintentionally very funny.

I found the last 15 minutes or so to be extremely gripping and involving but other than that, there isn't much to the movie. It's well shot. And as far as the acting goes, well, no one is going to win any awards for their performance, but they get the job done. The acting is for the most part competant.

Overall, so-so movie.

LarrytheTVDemon
11-12-2006, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by daddiefatsacks
and the best they could do was have her drink milk (i totally belive your theory bro, but that's not the best method of showing it)


Perhaps a better way might be have her lick herself all over and cough
hardballs?

Or rubbing herself on furniture, walls, or perhaps other people?

Or have her slink around purring and hissing at people?


The third one might the only one without sexual innuendo, but who
knows for some people.

I guess they opted for gross-out.

Badbird
11-26-2006, 11:55 PM
Finally saw this. Pretty dumb. But it's not like I hated it.

There was some genuinely creepy imagry in here (like the first one), too bad it couldn't have been in a better movie.

I figured out what was going on in Chicago about halfway through, and while it could have done something cool, it just didn't, really. Probably setting up a theortetical Grudge 3. But if the grudge can't be stopped, why bother?

I also love how in scary movies like this, the ghosts always wait until it will be most effective cinematically to scare/kill someone.

Seriously, if it's just gonna kill you, why does it go to the trouble of scaring you three or four times? There were clearly many times someone who was cursed was alone and the ghost didn't attack.

Oh, well. Who needs logic?