X-MEN 3

[Tweek]

Or whatever the fuck it's called:


I hate this fuckin' movie. It's like they didn't even fucking try. It was so fuckn' inaccurate to the books and a fucking SHORT movie. Fuck this movie. Fuck Brett Ratner. Fuck Bryan SInger for leaving the series.

Okay, short but swee rant

[Trail_Blazer]

I don't know, I absolutely loved it... 2nd best movie in the series behind X2 as far as I'm concerned.... Did you happen to stay after the credits stopped rolling?

[Cronos]

i liked it

[Duke Nukem]

I generally know the characters and story, but I'm not familiar with the comics and cartoons like the rest of you seem to be. So I don't see all the "faults" in X-Men 3. They may have done a lot less with the Phoenix storyline, out of many of the "faults" pointed out by many, but I could care less. As a stand-alone from the comics/cartoons and as the third part in the series, X-3 kicked a lot of fun ass.

[echo_bravo]

I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!!!!

[jolanar]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH!!!!

This one line describes everything that went wrong and everything that went right at the very same time. And no, I'm not kidding.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by Trail_Blazer
I don't know, I absolutely loved it... 2nd best movie in the series behind X2 as far as I'm concerned.... Did you happen to stay after the credits stopped rolling?

Yes i did.


I thought the dialogue was terrible too.

[Criminal Rock]

It all started out incredible with X-1, got even better with X-2, and then the series got completely fucked when Singer left. There was absolutely nothing good about this movie... nothing. The X-Men series was not supposed to be "cheesy fun" flick in any way. Fuck that shit.


4/10

[Terror Australis]

Originally posted by Cronos
i liked it

Me too....but fucking LOVED it! Don't get me wrong it's not as good as the first two film but damn if it's not entertaining!

[Crazy Dud]

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
It all started out incredible with X-1, got even better with X-2, and then the series got completely fucked when Singer left. There was absolutely nothing good about this movie... nothing. The X-Men series was not supposed to be "cheesy fun" flick in any way. Fuck that shit.


4/10

Exactly. It slapped the first two movies in the face and spit on their graves. It seemed bound and determined to utterly undo everything that made the first two movies so great.

It is easily one of the most disappointing films of all time.

[BorderEevilIII]

Ratner vs. Singer well............ It's big shoes to fill in on what the first 2 was build up and became and in the 3rd one was ummmmmmm ok...
The look and pacing my be different but deep down is not gonna be the same. Other than the questionable scene that takes place in SF (I Mean)
*cough* C*cough*G*cough*
I would have not bothered to see it once more when it hit DVD recently

[Quigles]

My critique of the film was much more of a rant than a review...

http://www.joblo.com/reviews.php?mode=joblo_dvds&id=1421

Sort of liked the movie, sort of hated it.

[MisterTwister]

I loved the movie, not as much as X2 but I thought it was better then X1. Pure popcorn fun with some fantastic action sequences. My favorite Magneto moments of the series, too. Sure some charcthers get the shaft too early on but in the end I thought Ratner did a great job carrying the torch.

8/10

Note: Yes the movie is a little too short, but you (and others, including the arrow) forgett that this and the first x-men are the same length (104 minutes) actually without end credits X3 is longer, by 2 minutes.

[blankpage]

X-Men 3 may be the same running time as X1, but there was so much fucking shit they had to cover in X3. There was just no emotional core there at all, you didn't have time to let anything settle cause it was "Next! Next! Next!". This had the potential to be an extremely great film, adding to the quality of the franchise, but it got lost in the mix of trying to rush it out once Singer left and all that bullshit. Plus, there was too much Storm...I love Halle Berry and all, but I just find the Storm character annoying as sin...and more of her in X3? No thanks!

However...for what it's worth...there were some cool sequences, and things were on the right track, they just got cut off mid way. So, I didn't hate the film, but in comparison to the other two, it doesn't hold a candle.

6/10

[blankpage]

double post.

[ZenDude]

Nowhere near as good as the other two, I'm learning to like it on a Blade 3 kind of level. :p

[bigred760]

I was disappointed by it; I didn't come close to living up to what the second movie was, and was only slightly worse than the first. Didn't hate the movie, but there was so much that could've been done better.

[Mr-Blonde]

After hearing all the negative reviews, I wasn't expecting too much from it. That said it actually managed to surpass my expectations. I'd rate it on par with the first in terms of quality. Maybe I'm just not a rabid enough fanboy but I don't get the animosity towards the film. Yeah it was a tad briskly paced in parts but the story, dialogue, and performances were all pretty solid.

[stickmangrit]

FUCK. THIS. MOVIE.




there simply aren't words to express how much this movie pisses me off as an abstract concept, let alone the rampant failings in the script and direction. the problem here is that you people seem to keep thinking that this is an X-Men movie. this is a false premise. what it really is is a hundred-some-odd minute dick measuring contest between Tom Rothman and Brian Singer. Fox went and sat on their single biggest selling running franchise until Singer got tired of waiting, then they kicked it into high gear the second he tried to make a different superhero movie. they got an up and coming director who could've done some great shit with the story(Matt Vaughn), who had "family issues," (which may in fact be true, but still. you'd think Fox might be able to make some sort of arrangements, but unfortunately they were in far too big of a rush to beat Superman Returns to the BO) and was quickly replaced with a work-horse director who would happily churn out a flick no matter what manner of insane budgetary and time constraints the studio might impose. the movie was rushed, and it shows painfully in every fucking frame.

now on to the actual story for the movie: Magneto suddenly becomes a total asshole zealot(i still say that abandoning Mystique was a gross break of character), Cyclops, who had been so brutally shafted for character development in the first two films, gets offed in the most brutal and unceremonious fasion possible, Nightcrawler vanishes with nary a comment from anyone, Jean FUCKING FORGETS SHE'S IN THE FILM FOR A SOLID GOD DAMNED HOUR before she fufills the third death slot, Xavier is snuffed almost as mechanically as Cyclops, and we get a Sentinel made out of two fucking hallogen headlamps.






FUCK. THIS. MOVIE.

[Crazy Dud]

Originally posted by stickmangrit
FUCK. THIS. MOVIE.




there simply aren't words to express how much this movie pisses me off as an abstract concept, let alone the rampant failings in the script and direction. the problem here is that you people seem to keep thinking that this is an X-Men movie. this is a false premise. what it really is is a hundred-some-odd minute dick measuring contest between Tom Rothman and Brian Singer. Fox went and sat on their single biggest selling running franchise until Singer got tired of waiting, then they kicked it into high gear the second he tried to make a different superhero movie. they got an up and coming director who could've done some great shit with the story(Matt Vaughn), who had "family issues," (which may in fact be true, but still. you'd think Fox might be able to make some sort of arrangements, but unfortunately they were in far too big of a rush to beat Superman Returns to the BO) and was quickly replaced with a work-horse director who would happily churn out a flick no matter what manner of insane budgetary and time constraints the studio might impose. the movie was rushed, and it shows painfully in every fucking frame.

now on to the actual story for the movie: Magneto suddenly becomes a total asshole zealot(i still say that abandoning Mystique was a gross break of character), Cyclops, who had been so brutally shafted for character development in the first two films, gets offed in the most brutal and unceremonious fasion possible, Nightcrawler vanishes with nary a comment from anyone, Jean FUCKING FORGETS SHE'S IN THE FILM FOR A SOLID GOD DAMNED HOUR before she fufills the third death slot, Xavier is snuffed almost as mechanically as Cyclops, and we get a Sentinel made out of two fucking hallogen headlamps.






FUCK. THIS. MOVIE.

*SPOILERS*

Indeed! Magneto's abandoning of Mystique was a HUGE break of character. He cares about mutants, just as Xavier, but wants to help them the wrong way. In this film, it seemed like Magneto cared about noone but himself, which eliminated the intentional ideological contrast between the characters. Then again, with Xavier gone so early, I guess they didn't feel like they needed this. The deaths scenes are a disgrace those characters and are treated very flippanty. And Jean Grey, whose supposed to be the incredible Phoenix, spends most her time after Xavier's death doing and saying absolutely nothing.

[JCPhoenix]

SPOILERS
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Ugh...never read an X-Men issue in my life, never knew about the Dark Phoenix storyline beforehand, but I came out of theatres still thinking this movie was terrible.

Besides the ridiculous dialogue and especially the abundance of bad one-liners being given to different characters regardless of their personalities (Wolverine especially suffered), my main problem was that the writers didn't seem to have any idea what to do with teh whole idea of the "cure" as part of the story. I thought they just mixed it into the story without any thought as to the implications etc for the different characters...essentially I thought the idea of the cure was an interesting one but they didn't explore any of the interesting territory at all in the film. And goshdarnit, I gotta say that I was actually leaning more in support of Magneto's side than the X-Men's on this one (not in the way he goes about it but he's got the right idea). I dunno...it just seemed like the movie finished and....there was no point to any of it.

And I saw the extra scene and it actually made things worse for me. Really, no, thanks for WASTING TWO HOURS OF MY FUCKING TIME ON A STORY ABOUT A "CURE" THAT REALLY DOESN'T "CURE". Honestly, what's the point of the fucking story if the cure didn't really affect the mutants?

There are other things but they've been addressed above I think....but it was mainly the absolutely horrifyingly LAUGHABLY bad dialogue and the bad use of the cure in the story that killed it for me. That said, the action sequences were well-filmed though.

[ZenDude]

The more I read everyones gripes, the more I have to agree. Problems for me:

SPOILERS










1. Magneto leaving Mystique was unacceptable
2. No Mystique until we see her in custody and weird one liners like "nothing like a woman scorned"
3. There should have been some exposition regarding the cure, like one faction wanting to actually help mutuants who want the cure and the govt stealing it to use forcibly. Eveyone, including Govt has good intention? No way
4. The kid is now at the school? If anyone is in his proximity how are they going to learn to use their powers if he nulls and voids them?
5. Jean/Phonnix has the most power, but stands there when needed and allows Magneto to lose, only getting crazy at the end. It was so phoned in it was pathetic.
6. The winged dude was wasted, so was Beast
7. Where was the blue dude with the angelic script from X2?

I think I'll pass on this dvd and just stick with XI & XII.

[Tweek]

6. The winged dude was wasted, so was Beast

YES

[RicochetShaw]

I'm in awe that anyone could find this movie even half-way decent.


This is one of the worst abominations to cinema. Ever.

[Crazy Dud]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
I'm in awe that anyone could find this movie even half-way decent.


This is one of the worst abominations to cinema. Ever.

No more to be said!

[jolanar]

Im glad others feel shafted by Angel.

The guy was showcased in like every trailer, he was on every poster, on the dvd covers etc.

But he has literally 5 fucking minutes of screen time!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Derek237]

I didn't hate the movie, but it was no doubt the weakest entry in the series. It had the opposite problem of Superman Returns, which had a tiny, tiny concept that was stretched out too long. X3, on the other hand, had an epic concept with many characters and ideas that could've been explored, but ran way too short. I didn't hate it with a passion, probably because I don't follow the comics and didn't feel as insulted as hardcore fans may have been, but felt was a decent movie. It may have been lousy in some areas but it definitley wasn't boring. They really could have gone with a better director. Anyone else think Ratner's catchphrase is, "I'll do it!!!" ?

[Terror Australis]

Originally posted by RicochetShaw
I'm in awe that anyone could find this movie even half-way decent.


This is one of the worst abominations to cinema. Ever.

That is down right one of the stupidest things I've ever read in my entire life! Man, some of you people carryiing on like this film is the worst thing to happen to the world since Hitler. Give the film a break, it's way better that most of the shit that is out there.

While the film, I admit, does have it's flaws but they didn't bother as much as some people on this site. Having watched to film again the other day I enjoyed more and I love this film wats and all. Again, that's that's my opionion. Like it or lump it.

[Crazy Dud]

Originally posted by Terror Australis
That is down right one of the stupidest things I've ever read in my entire life! Man, some of you people carryiing on like this film is the worst thing to happen to the world since Hitler. Give the film a break, it's way better that most of the shit that is out there.

While the film, I admit, does have it's flaws but they didn't bother as much as some people on this site. Having watched to film again the other day I enjoyed more and I love this film wats and all. Again, that's that's my opionion. Like it or lump it.

Highly anticipated movies are not viewed as objectively as most other movies. People will call a movie "total trash" and "an abomination to cinema" even if it isn't THAT bad. Need examples? How about The Matrix: Revolutions? That was torn to shreds by many and labeled as a pretentious B-movie, and in my opinion its quality is much higher than that of X3. *SPOILERS* At least they treated the main characters' deaths with some dignity! *END SPOILERS* However, I believe calling X3 "an abomination to cinema" is going too far, but people aren't going to look at this kind of movie objectively.

Save comments like "a true abomination to cinema" for movies that deserve that title, such as Pulse, Mission to Mars, The Wicker Man remake, or White Chicks, to name a few.

[Terror Australis]

Originally posted by Crazy Dud
*SPOILERS* At least they treated the main characters' deaths with some dignity! *END SPOILERS*

***MAJOR SPOLIERS***

Personally, I felt death scenes, besides Cyclops, were pretty dignified in my opinion. I mean when I watched it for the first time I couldn't believe that they killed Xavier! I never saw it coming! As big fan both the comics, cartoons and the films it impressed me that the filmmakers had the balls to kill him off (as well as Cyclops and Jean). Believe me, it take a lot to do something like that. His death scene was fantastic in everyway and I would put it down as one of the best scenes in the entire series. Also there were great moments from the biggest (the Al Catraz battle, the second visit to Jen Grey's house, Magento raising the San Francisco bridge, Wolverine stopping Jean) to the smallest (Beast meeting Leech, Magneto showing his "tattoo", Bobby and Kitty ice skating, Magento giving Pyro a word after Xavier's death, Rogue cured) I felt the awe and emotion in all of those scenes IMO.

While I can understand why some are pissed off about it and I do admit that film has it's flaws (let's admit people Cyclops was the most under used character in the enitre series )and their are little things I would have changed but, unlike most people, it didn't bother one bit...even one repeated viewings. So my not uptight about it as most pissy little fans are (no offence). I think that Brett Ratner did a good job from were Bryan Singer because he kept both the style and the tone of the first two films and delivered an action packed from the beginning to end because when the shit went down, THE SHIT REALLY WENT DOWN! Also another says that it's too short, true. I mean would have like it to be 10-15 minutes longer but it, again, didn't bother me 'cause it had a good pace.

Also, lets' about the characters. Hugh Jackma kicked arse yet again as Wolverine and you just can't fault. A lot you guys are pretty much down on Storm but I think that Halle Berry gave her best performance in the entire series in this film. Angel, I argee that should have the film more (his role was like setting him so that he can have a bigger role the nxt film....if they decide to make it) but saying that Beast was wasted is a pretty stupid thing to say since of the new characters he is the most and I enjoyed every scene he was in. Kelsey Grammer was the absolute perfected casting for the role. Now someone said....

Originally posted by ZenDude
1. Magneto leaving Mystique was unacceptable


These scene prove how cold Magneto is, that despite Mystique working for the longest time he would turn his back on her, if somehow, she ever became human again. I bet if it happed to Pyro he would to the exact thing as well, he can never still friend with her because of his undying hate to all humans. He is dictator and megalomaniac, Hitler-esque if you will.

In the end it may flaws and lacked character development (for some of the new characters) but, to me, it delivered in as being an non-stop action-packed final installment (or is it?) and I am pretty much happy with that. It might be as good as the first two films but I love it (espically enjoying it more repeated viewings) and if you don't like it....well you can figure out the rest. This one of my favourite films of this year....and by th way....

"I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!!!"

...Woo...Now I'm sleepy....

Other ratings:

X-Men - 5/5

X-Men 2 - 5/5

...and...

X-Men: The Last Stand - 4.5/5

[stickmangrit]

Originally posted by Terror Australis
***MAJOR SPOLIERS***

Personally, I felt death scenes, besides Cyclops, were pretty dignified in my opinion. I mean when I watched it for the first time I couldn't believe that they killed Xavier! I never saw it coming! As big fan both the comics, cartoons and the films it impressed me that the filmmakers had the balls to kill him off (as well as Cyclops and Jean). Believe me, it take a lot to do something like that. His death scene was fantastic in everyway and I would put it down as one of the best scenes in the entire series. Also there were great moments from the biggest (the Al Catraz battle, the second visit to Jen Grey's house, Magento raising the San Francisco bridge, Wolverine stopping Jean) to the smallest (Beast meeting Leech, Magneto showing his "tattoo", Bobby and Kitty ice skating, Magento giving Pyro a word after Xavier's death, Rogue cured) I felt the awe and emotion in all of those scenes IMO.

While I can understand why some are pissed off about it and I do admit that film has it's flaws (let's admit people Cyclops was the most under used character in the enitre series )and their are little things I would have changed but, unlike most people, it didn't bother one bit...even one repeated viewings. So my not uptight about it as most pissy little fans are (no offence). I think that Brett Ratner did a good job from were Bryan Singer because he kept both the style and the tone of the first two films and delivered an action packed from the beginning to end because when the shit went down, THE SHIT REALLY WENT DOWN! Also another says that it's too short, true. I mean would have like it to be 10-15 minutes longer but it, again, didn't bother me 'cause it had a good pace.

Also, lets' about the characters. Hugh Jackma kicked arse yet again as Wolverine and you just can't fault. A lot you guys are pretty much down on Storm but I think that Halle Berry gave her best performance in the entire series in this film. Angel, I argee that should have the film more (his role was like setting him so that he can have a bigger role the nxt film....if they decide to make it) but saying that Beast was wasted is a pretty stupid thing to say since of the new characters he is the most and I enjoyed every scene he was in. Kelsey Grammer was the absolute perfected casting for the role. Now someone said....



These scene prove how cold Magneto is, that despite Mystique working for the longest time he would turn his back on her, if somehow, she ever became human again. I bet if it happed to Pyro he would to the exact thing as well, he can never still friend with her because of his undying hate to all humans. He is dictator and megalomaniac, Hitler-esque if you will.

In the end it may flaws and lacked character development (for some of the new characters) but, to me, it delivered in as being an non-stop action-packed final installment (or is it?) and I am pretty much happy with that. It might be as good as the first two films but I love it (espically enjoying it more repeated viewings) and if you don't like it....well you can figure out the rest. This one of my favourite films of this year....and by th way....

"I'M THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH!!!"

...Woo...Now I'm sleepy....

Other ratings:

X-Men - 5/5

X-Men 2 - 5/5

...and...

X-Men: The Last Stand - 4.5/5


you have to be joking. please tell me you're joking. what fucking balls are required to "kill" a character only to ressurect them at the end of the goddamned thing, thus further cheapening any shred of dignity the only reasonably aquired death had? and since when did "I'm the Juggernaut bitch?" become a good thing? look, if it had sold itself as a "non-stop whiz bang action flic" i might have been ok with it, but there were two great movies worth of character and storyline to finish up, not to mention trying to tackle the "cure"angle(which evidently doesn't work anyway). they went for huge epic story and gave us the fucking cliff notes at every damned turn. kickass characters vanish with nary a trace, only to be replaced by three minutes of Angel and a horde of morlocks(many of whom recieve more screentime than Angel and STILL don't get names).

and as for Beast, i think Kelsey Grammar was a fine choice. FOR THE VOICE. Beast should have been a CGI creature, a-la-Golem or Davy Jones. but unfortunately Rothman was dicking the budget overr so hard that we had to settle for blurry fight scenes of a fat guy in a blue furry suit. a total rape of a great character.

X3: The Last Stand: 1.5/5

PIECE. OF. SHIT. end of discussion.

ed: and for the record, Magneto as portrayed in the first two films is most definitely not the kind of heartless bastard who would abandon a long-time companion because she wasn't "one of us" anymore. this was a gross misstep of the plot that fucking led nowhere, other than Mardox getting a few seconds of screen time.

[Terror Australis]

:rolleyes:

Whatever dude. I'm sticking by my opinion 100%, if you don't like it then....well, you can figure out the rest.

[parsonz]

i loved this omvie butthere was one thing that spoiled it or me was the idiot juggernaought when he says do u know who i am im the jugernaught bitch like come on talk about fucking chessyness

[APzombie]

To tell you the truth, I don't know if I can call it a film. Its more like a preview for a movie that could have been. It has some money shots but it didn't go to the bank to cash the franchise check- it was so mundane, dull and by the numbers... A waste of so much potential.

[kcvoorhees]

Originally posted by Mr-Blonde
After hearing all the negative reviews, I wasn't expecting too much from it. That said it actually managed to surpass my expectations. I'd rate it on par with the first in terms of quality. Maybe I'm just not a rabid enough fanboy but I don't get the animosity towards the film. Yeah it was a tad briskly paced in parts but the story, dialogue, and performances were all pretty solid.


That's exactly how i feel.

I also believe if Singer had made the 3rd movie and it was exactly as is not nearly as many people would hate it.

[NemesisEnforcer]

This movie was and will always be a waste of my time. The first two were great, this one sucked.

[Shockwave]

..so many things should have made this a complete diaster, instead i found it to be a pretty decent peice of action fluff.

The part in Jeans house with Prof. X was (to me) probably the most gripping part in all 3 movies.

That being said, most of the movie was a mixed bag for me. It NEEDED about 15 more minutes with the kids building character and tension.:mad:

[fooknasty]

It could have been a lot better.

Overall, I think it was fun. I am not a diehard fan of the X-Men comics, so I think I was able to enojy myself a little more than those who were. To me, I could tell right away that this was not a Singer film. It wasn't nearly as dark, and the plethora of action didn't suggest Singer's work. He's more about subtle arrays of action, which worked well in the first two.

But, I can completely understand where people who love the comics are coming from. I was so excited to see Spiderman 3, but after seeing the latest trailer, I am pissed. I don't mean to rant (LOL), but to me it doesn't even look like a Sam Raimi movie. The entire idea of having....

SPOLIERS NOT REGARDING X-MEN 3












....Sandman kill Uncle Ben is fucking stupid. And how many times did Raimi say that he didn't want to introduce Venom into his series?? Now, after fan/studio pressure, we are going to have a movie that just kind blows off the first two movies and disregards anything they set up? I am beyond pissed about this!!I wish I could sit down one on one with Raimi and see what his original plan for the trilogy was, becuase I guarantee it wasn't this.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by fooknasty
....Sandman kill Uncle Ben is fucking stupid. And how many times did Raimi say that he didn't want to introduce Venom into his series?? Now, after fan/studio pressure, we are going to have a movie that just kind blows off the first two movies and disregards anything they set up? I am beyond pissed about this!!I wish I could sit down one on one with Raimi and see what his original plan for the trilogy was, becuase I guarantee it wasn't this.

Raimi didn't originally plan a trilogy. He signed on to do Spider-man there was no gaurantee the movie was going to do well enough to warrant a sequal. Yes, Tobey and Kirstin were signed for three movies but Riami has been recontracted for each movie. He had no original "trilogy" ideas, he's been tackling EACH movie SEPERATELY. Not worrying about the next installment but, rather, worrying about the current installment instead.

As far as him saying he didn't want to introduce Venom in this series- Raimi openley admitted pretty much at Comic Con to be trying to throw the fans for a loop. He likes suprises. He doesn't like to let the cat out of the bag early. What's the easiest way to do that? Deny, deny, deny. Which is what he did for Spider-man 3, but by now inevitabley enough leaks have confirmed that he was fooling us earlier. :)

As far as the Uncle Ben thing goes- We also have yet to actually SEE the movie, so we don't nkow what the result of that plot is going to be. For all we know, Sandman could have simply been an accomplice who is wrongfully accused of the murder. He may not have pulled the trigger after all, he could be a victim of circumstance. We don't know, we'll have to wait and see. From the looks of Spider-man 1, either way, the other criminal took off WITH the car AND the Money, so if Sandman had something to do with Ben's death it sounds like he got jipped out of the money by the other guy.

[Shockwave]

..the stuff with Sandman killing Uncle Ben actualy works i think now that i know the details of it.

[Duke Nukem]

Uncle Ben being mugged and shot for his car was off-camera in the original. we don't know what exactly happened and how it exactly happened. It's not impossible for there to be more to that scenario than we were told.

Anyway, staying on-topic, I still feel X-men 3 will be one of the most underrated movies of 2006.

The most common issue I'm seeing on this thread - the "fanboys" who knew EVERYTHING about the original Dark Phoenex storyline in the comics and how the filmmakers apparently changed it around. I'm not very familiar with the comics, so I don't know how differently this storyline was handled. Regardless, I felt the execution of it was fantastic.

The next commong issue - the lower quality of the overall movie (compared to the first two). Yes, the movie was less interested in character development. Yes, there could have been an extra 15 minutes to add an extra dimenstion to the characters on hand. And yes, given the different ideals of the director this time around and the rushed production, this isn't as "rich" as the first two movies.

But considering all of that, I thought it turned out very enjoyable. To me, it could have turned out A LOT worse than this. Some have claimed that the script is "badly written," and I couldn't disagree more. The script was fine. It wasn't perfect, but it was good enough. It just needed extra padding for the characters.

I will agree that Cyclops was wasted (but that doesn't ruin the movie for me). But, Xavier's fate (minus the "extra" scene after the credits) and Jean Grey's fate were both handled fantastically. Assuming we're talking about a trilogy here, I'm content.

[GodMagnus]

I actually really liked X3 but I also think they could have done a few things better.
Cons:
-For starters, NOT a cyclops fan at all, never have been.
I do actually think it WOULD have been MUCH better with him at the end with the X-men in the final fight though.
Killing him off actually annoyed me and again, this is coming from a
NON-Cyclops fan!
-It's nerdy I know, but I would have loved Jean to rise up and yell
"I AM PHEONIX" and obviously I would have liked the thunderbird to have apeared around her as well.
-Angel was 100% underused and Rogue left.

Pro's:
-Beast was done phenominally!
-The story was really good
-Storm's character has never been better (storm fan)
-Iceman and Kitty were well used characters

All in all, I LOVED the movie!

[stickmangrit]

once again, i say that this movie bit off way, way more than it was ever prepared to chew. if it had just been Magneto recruiting Phoenix and the Brotherhood and going to war along with a plethora of action, that would have been cool. if they had just done Phoenix for this film and waited until a fourth movie for Dark Phoenix, with hints of her newfound insanity peeking up throughout and possibly capping off with something totally unconscionable like killing Magneto, that would have been great too. but they decided to tackle two separate story lines, some ten odd new characters, and three major character deaths in way, way too short a running time. for the one who said that if Singer would have made this exact movie we wouldn't have bitched, i respond that Singer would have never made this movie. he would have focused on one story, two or three new characters, and kept it coherent. or he would have gone for an appropriate run-time for what this movie tried to tackle.