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echo_bravo
10-18-2006, 06:54 PM
Am I the only living soul that thinks this guy is overrated. I mean, I found a couple of his bits funny, but overall he is really lame.
A lot of my friends that are in frats and sororities worship this guy like they worship Dave Matthews. I really dont get it.
I went to see Employee of the Month with a big group (I got to see it for free thank GOD) and it was seriously the least funny movie I have seen in a very long time. The only good part was Andy Dick.
The girls I was with would not stop laughing at everything Dane did. After the movie, I asked, "You actually thought that was funny?"
"Hell yeah, Dane is so funny and so fuckin hot."
I just kinda shook my head that this hack is making millions by telling lame stories and stealling jokes. You could find a guy like this at any frat house.
Anyways, this Mad TV guy does a perfect impression of Dane Cook, which I thought was hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1vqLMWOIPo
Brando @$$ Fat
10-18-2006, 07:06 PM
He's definitely no Bill Hicks, that's for sure.
outsyder
10-18-2006, 07:42 PM
I think that he uses an overabundance of energy to make up for what little content his material actually has.
Lewis Black on the other hand is the funniest man on the planet.
XHendrix24
10-18-2006, 07:49 PM
I like him. Sure, he doesn't have the most intellectual sense of humor, but he's got some pretty damn funny stuff. Overrated? Maybe. But he makes me laugh.
Half of comedy is in the delivery, anyway. And he's got that shit down pat. I don't think that can even be argued.
And PLEASE don't judge the merit of his comedy on that awful movie he's in. He's generally much better than that, I promise.
jackson13
10-18-2006, 08:13 PM
I first discovered Dane on Comedy Central presents 4 years ago. No one knew him, he was just becoming big, and he was funny then. I taped the show, showed it to my friends, we all loved it and him.
Fast forward 4 years to now, EVERYONE seemingly loves him, and he just isnt funny anymore. I dont get HBO, so I downloaded his 'Vicious Circle' special, and I laughed maybe 4 times during the whole thing.
I have his cd's, and I highly prefer 'Harmful if Swallowed' over 'Retaliation'. I still watch his Comedy Central presents special, even though I know all the jokes by now. I watch/listen to them to remember when he was good. Cause he isnt anymore. He sucked on SNL, and his new movie sucked as well. It's sad when the best part of your movie is Dax Fucking Shepard.
As for frat boys loving him, and college students, that I cant really explain. It's just one of those things. Personally, I think bands like 311 and Incubus are pure shit, but I'll be damned if I dont go to a frat party, or any college party, and have to listen to their songs. Dane is like that too. I find him mediocre at best anymore, but everywhere I go, people my age are talking about him.
I miss the good ol' days of stand up comedy when people like Sam Kinison and Dice were around. I like more offbeat comedians anyways, like Steven Wright or Jim Gaffigan or Daniel Tosh or Zack Galifikanakis or, RIP, Mitch Hedburg. Steven Wright has a stand up special on this Saturday on Comedy Central and I am literally salivating over that.
Dane Cook is the literal term of the word overrated. Sorry, he used to be funny. He's not anymore.
Raoul Duke
10-18-2006, 09:28 PM
I also first saw Dane's act a few years ago, Jackson. His energy and pretty much a lot of the weird topics he talked about were great.
But he has just suddenly exploded in the last year or so, now he's everywhere. Hosting the damn Nick's Kids Choice Awards or something for Chrissake.
I only have Harmful If Swallowed and I don't plan on buying any of his other stuff. His act is just kinda getting blah. And it sort of annoys me how quick he wants to break into the mainstream.
EVILxxx
10-18-2006, 11:23 PM
I agree. He is very overrated. I think he is alright, but I can never get into that frathouse humor. I'm more of a Mitch Hedberg kinda guy.
Quigles
10-19-2006, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
this Mad TV guy does a perfect impression of Dane Cook, which I thought was hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1vqLMWOIPo
When I first discovered Dane Cook, I thought he was hilarious. I still like him now, but I agree - he has become overrated.
And that video - perfect! It's exactly like him. Shockingly accurate, and funny too.
The Heart Collector
10-19-2006, 10:15 AM
Dane Cook is the AIDS of comedy.
thedudeman69
10-19-2006, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Dane Cook is the AIDS of comedy.
and you are the herpes of this board. :D
Yeah, I agree with alot of things that have been said. The guy is overrated, but he has spats of humor sometimes. I mean, the guy's delivery makes the joke funnier, and it makes it easier to laugh at it. I was chuckling mostly at Vicious Circle. My cousins(who are like 15, by the way) sent me a LATE birthday present of one of his comedy cds and I have to say, it was funny. I constantly hate that the mainstream jumps on something and makes it big. Like Myspace or Dane Cook, orr whatever.
Mr-Blonde
10-19-2006, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
The girls I was with would not stop laughing at everything Dane did. After the movie, I asked, "You actually thought that was funny?"
"Hell yeah, Dane is so funny and so fuckin hot."
Kind of says it all right there. Obviously because he gets their little panties wet that makes him also entertaining. I think he sucks ass and is anything but. Personally I don't know of a single guy who finds this guy to be "so funny". Just chicks.
Sex sells.
Servo
10-19-2006, 04:32 PM
If Mitch Hedberg hadn't died Dane Cooke wouldn't be as famous as he is today. Funny how they were both rising to stardom at the same time and one of them just happens to die of "heart failure."
I smell a conspiracy. Get those Loose Change kids out here!
Jamesadin
10-19-2006, 06:13 PM
I don't know, I find this guy hilarious. Granted, I havn't seen "Employee of the Month" to be put off by him, but the CDs I have heard and the live shows I have seen all had me in tears for the most part.
The FamilyJulas
10-19-2006, 06:43 PM
Yeah i've been getting pretty sick of hearing about him lately...his shit is pretty lame with the exception of the one bit with the tire hitting the lady in the stands....that was funny. All the exposure in the last 6 months has made him suck.
jaw2929
10-19-2006, 07:48 PM
I don't know, I really like this guy... He's pretty damn fucking funny, I think... His movie Employee of the Month was pretty decent, though I enjoy his stand-up stuff more than that.... And I've still gotta STRONGLY disagree with Jackson's statement about Dax Shepard being the only good thing about the movie... We must've watched two different flicks or something, because Shepard's character was written fucking TERRIBLY! Dane and the black security guard "Semi" are what made the movie for me....
Anyway, everyone shits on someone once they become very successful, it's formulaic.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-19-2006, 10:23 PM
Louis CK would probably really appreciate you making this thread. Seriously, if you think Dane Cook is the least bit funny, go check out CK. You'll begin to notice more than a few similarities. The only difference? CK isn't "hawt". So therefore, he must suck, according to the youth culture.
I thought Harmful if Swallowed was funny. Then I listened to Retaliation. I have a "retaliation" for Cook. SAYING YOUR JOKE OVER AND OVER TO HAMMER IT HOME DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS LAME THAN THE FIRST FUCKING TIME, ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!
Brando @$$ Fat
10-20-2006, 04:44 PM
All I can say is that he has pretty much forgotten what it is to be a stand-up comedian. You would never see any of the greats do what he does. Hell, even Gallagher who made a living getting laughs off of hitting fruit with a hammer is probably shaking his head in disgust right now. Hosting the Nickelodeon Awards and starring in a movie with Jessica Simpson might get you points with some people, but it won't benefit you in the long run.
leprechaun
10-20-2006, 06:00 PM
as much as i used to like him and as much as I used to think he was seriously hot.....hes wearing thin. I used to listen to him on my ipod at work and laugh....now when he comes on, i always skip. im seriously losing intrest in him.
powersauce
10-21-2006, 11:47 AM
Lame Cook has what I call the "Fallon-itis" disease. ;) He's unfunny but only popular because stupid MTV watching rich teen girls dying to be on Super Sweet 16 want to jump his bones.
Monotreme
10-21-2006, 12:37 PM
Whole-heartedly agree. The guy has no insight, he's too goofy for his own good, has nothing funny to say and doesn't say these things in a funny way. He's overrated like hell.
The FamilyJulas
10-21-2006, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by powersauce
Lame Cook has what I call the "Fallon-itis" disease. ;) In Jimmy Fallon's defense, you must know that the guy was at one time funny as hell. Yeah now he sucks....but he carried SNL for about 2-3 seasons after Ferrell left.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-21-2006, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by The FamilyJulas
In Jimmy Fallon's defense, you must know that the guy was at one time funny as hell. Yeah now he sucks....but he carried SNL for about 2-3 seasons after Ferrell left.
Really? I must've missed it. I was too busy getting pissed with him giggling like a school girl and looking at the camera half the time.:p
The FamilyJulas
10-21-2006, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
Really? I must've missed it. I was too busy getting pissed with him giggling like a school girl and looking at the camera half the time.:p well yeah he also sucks at staying in character but did you see the Barry Gibb Talk Show sketch?
CletusHorniblow
10-21-2006, 05:46 PM
It's funny how so many people praise Hedburg in this thread and bash Cook. Both comedians are funny for the way they deliver thier material. Dane likes to hyperly blurt the most outrageous material he has; while Mitch sort of casually mumbled his subtle jokes.
I remember the time when I was first exposed to both potential stars on the rise. As a fan of off-beat beat comedians, myself, (like another member here) I enyoed Hedburg much more but Dane still gave me more than a fair share of chuckles.
The bottom line: Dane may be overrated, but he isn't terrible.
someguy
10-21-2006, 06:16 PM
I really don't know what happened between the time period of 'Harmful if Swallowed' to 'Retaliation.' I really liked his first album, which surprised me since I heard Retaliation and hated it a lot. His comedy isn't even that memorable though, and his stage personality elevates the material most of the time. He really does have no effect on actual stand-up though. Most other comedians see him as pretty hack-y for stealing Louis CK's bits (google it up and you'll see) and his audience is not insanely huge outside of the college/frat boy department as evidenced by Employee of the Month's box office. He's essentially to college/frat boy people like Larry the Cable Guy is to people from the southern part of the States.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-21-2006, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by CletusHorniblow
It's funny how so many people praise Hedburg in this thread and bash Cook. Both comedians are funny for the way they deliver thier material. Dane likes to hyperly blurt the most outrageous material he has; while Mitch sort of casually mumbled his subtle jokes.
I remember the time when I was first exposed to both potential stars on the rise. As a fan of off-beat beat comedians, myself, (like another member here) I enyoed Hedburg much more but Dane still gave me more than a fair share of chuckles.
The bottom line: Dane may be overrated, but he isn't terrible.
Actually, I do love Hedburg's delivery, because it's how my own stage presence would be, but I love his clever word play and observations more. Like I said, I enjoyed Cook somewhat before, but Retaliation was annoything as fuck.
Originally posted by someguy
He's essentially to college/frat boy people like Larry the Cable Guy is to people from the southern part of the States.
Take it back.:p
I hate Larry the Cable Guy and constantly feel like dropkicking every one who says "Git-R-Done!"
Badbird
10-22-2006, 01:18 AM
I think someone shit on the coats!
I thought his CDs were hilarious. When I first saw him on that Comedy Central special, I thought I was going to die laughing. I haven't laughed at a comedien like him in a long time.
And now it has come. The inevitable Dane Cook backlash. You know how I knew this would come? Because as it has been stated - Cook is huge with the college co-ed, frat boy, partty girl types. His rise in popularity is more like when a trendy rock band gets really, really popular than with a comedien. The only comparison I can think of is Dave Chapelle, but even he wasn't this huge.
And like most trendy rock bands, it only lasts so long. They get very poplular and then you have those people who are like: "Yeah, I liked (insert name here) back before no one else did..."
Vicious Circle is a perfect example. It wasn't very funny. But the crowd just kept... cheering, like they were at a rock concert instead of watching a comediem tell jokes. Every time he paused, regardless of his place in the story, people just cheered for no reason other than there was Dane Cook. Then when he got to the punchline they cheered again, but it was no different than cheering mid joke. Hell, I don't think any of them were paying attention to the jokes.
I think he's got great energy and truly cares about his performance. I just think he's at his best doing really off the wall shit. The long winded stories on Vicious Circle just couldn't hold up to stuff like Aliens using acid spit on a date, shooting superman in the chest ("I guess not"), bathroom grafitti and shitting on coats (..."What?"). When he's shorter and tighter he's a lot funnier.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-22-2006, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Badbird
I think someone shit on the coats!
I thought his CDs were hilarious. When I first saw him on that Comedy Central special, I thought I was going to die laughing. I haven't laughed at a comedien like him in a long time.
And now it has come. The inevitable Dane Cook backlash. You know how I knew this would come? Because as it has been stated - Cook is huge with the college co-ed, frat boy, partty girl types. His rise in popularity is more like when a trendy rock band gets really, really popular than with a comedien. The only comparison I can think of is Dave Chapelle, but even he wasn't this huge.
And like most trendy rock bands, it only lasts so long. They get very poplular and then you have those people who are like: "Yeah, I liked (insert name here) back before no one else did..."
Vicious Circle is a perfect example. It wasn't very funny. But the crowd just kept... cheering, like they were at a rock concert instead of watching a comediem tell jokes. Every time he paused, regardless of his place in the story, people just cheered for no reason other than there was Dane Cook. Then when he got to the punchline they cheered again, but it was no different than cheering mid joke. Hell, I don't think any of them were paying attention to the jokes.
I think he's got great energy and truly cares about his performance. I just think he's at his best doing really off the wall shit. The long winded stories on Vicious Circle just couldn't hold up to stuff like Aliens using acid spit on a date, shooting superman in the chest ("I guess not"), bathroom grafitti and shitting on coats (..."What?"). When he's shorter and tighter he's a lot funnier.
I think his delivery's just getting worse and worse. He used to tell the joke once. Now he repeats each line in the joke about four or five times, jumping around on stage and spazzing out, just to make sure you're paying attention and got the joke. Kinda like another comedian started doing when he started to turn unfunny... Mr. Williams?;) Like I said, I used to like him. Didn't think he was great at anytime, just thought "Harmful" was funny. "Retaliation", however, is one of the worst comedy albums I've ever heard.
jackson13
10-22-2006, 12:05 PM
Dave Chappelle cant even be mentioned in the same sentence as Dane Cook. Dave has always been hilarious, and he still is. Dane used to be, and isnt anymore. Plain and simple.
cocksmokinclerk
10-22-2006, 10:27 PM
i like dane, i hate how people think he's just the funniest person ever, but i still like him, i know more than a few people though that thnk he sucks big time, but that doesn't stop me from liking him
echo_bravo
10-23-2006, 03:11 PM
I was at Barnes & Nobles today and guess who I spotted on the cover of fuckin Men's Health? None other than this dipshit. Seriously, he is way overexposed.
drago25
10-23-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by outsyder
I think that he uses an overabundance of energy to make up for what little content his material actually has.
Lewis Black on the other hand is the funniest man on the planet.
My sentiments exactly.
echo_bravo
10-23-2006, 07:17 PM
Yeah, I gotta agree that Lewis Black is hilarious. I saw him live when he came to my college. It was the best $15 I ever spent!
Badbird
10-24-2006, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
Yeah, I gotta agree that Lewis Black is hilarious. I saw him live when he came to my college. It was the best $15 I ever spent!
Lewis Black is funny, but he doesn't really do anything beyond pointing out the obvious: people are stupid, here's how they are stupid.
Mr.HyDe807
10-25-2006, 01:06 PM
Dane Cokk is hialrious, in my opinion. I really enjoy his bits too, but i do agree that hes getting a bit overexposed.
Since were on lweis Black, that guy is fucking great also!
fooknasty
10-25-2006, 02:08 PM
That Dane Cook is a silly bitch.......
I think is comedy, in parts, is really funny. He ahs a lot of talent and his timing, and delivery are what sells his work. He has become way overexposed though. I saw that Men's Health magazine the other day, WTF? How the hell did Dane Cook get on the cover of Men's Health?? I know he lost a lot of weight for some new movie he has coming up with Jessica Alba, but come on!!
On a side note, the Kool-Aid sketch is some of the funniest shit in the world!! If you are on the edge about his ability to be funny, listen to his live sketch of the Kool-Aid man. F****** HILARIOUS!!!
A.J. Hakari
10-26-2006, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by outsyder
Lewis Black on the other hand is the funniest man on the planet.
I must respectfully disagree, sir...
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sfmetro/08.24.98/gifs/izzard2-9832.jpg
Lew's in the top five for me, though. :cool:
But yeah, I think Dane Cook is a fairly amusing comic, not gut-bustingly hilarious but pretty funny when he can be. But holy Christ, EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH just watered down his act to the point that any two-bit comic who wanted to be in a movie could've read it line for line, and it would've turned out the same.
LordSimen
10-26-2006, 10:40 AM
I disagree with 80% of this thread. I find Dane Cook funny and always have found him funny. I have all of his CD's and each one of them I find equally as hillarious, with my personal favorite being Retalliation.
Most people seem to be hating on him because he's gotten popular, atleast thats how it appears to me. He's a comedic genius in my eyes, the only stand up comedian to ever have gotten me to go out and buy his CD's rather than just wait to catch him on T.V.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-26-2006, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by LordSimen
I disagree with 80% of this thread. I find Dane Cook funny and always have found him funny. I have all of his CD's and each one of them I find equally as hillarious, with my personal favorite being Retalliation.
Most people seem to be hating on him because he's gotten popular, atleast thats how it appears to me. He's a comedic genius in my eyes, the only stand up comedian to ever have gotten me to go out and buy his CD's rather than just wait to catch him on T.V.
Excuse me? Baking powder? I've stated repeatedly my reasons are that he steals a lot of his material and that most of his act is all style (lots of yelling and jumping) over substance (actual jokes).
LordSimen
10-26-2006, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
Excuse me? Baking powder? I've stated repeatedly my reasons are that he steals a lot of his material and that most of his act is all style (lots of yelling and jumping) over substance (actual jokes).
I havn't heard any one of jokes being done by any other comedian other than himself and I looked up a bunch of Louis CK and I found that he has a similar but still a different style from Cook. Cook is more off the wall and emphasizes words a lot more, Louis is much calmer much more of the time than Dane. They're different, they arn't the same. I don't see how Dane rips this guy off.
echo_bravo
10-26-2006, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by LordSimen
I havn't heard any one of jokes being done by any other comedian other than himself and I looked up a bunch of Louis CK and I found that he has a similar but still a different style from Cook. Cook is more off the wall and emphasizes words a lot more, Louis is much calmer much more of the time than Dane. They're different, they arn't the same. I don't see how Dane rips this guy off.
Here you go: http://www.cringehumor.net/temp/danesteals.mp3
(I gotta credit Menitrso, cause he found that link in an earlier thread)
Anways, if that doesnt spell "hack", then I dont know what does.
Also, what the fuck is up with that stupid hand gesture?! WIth the two fingers sticking up and why do all his dickridin fans do it too?
jackson13
10-26-2006, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
Here you go: http://www.cringehumor.net/temp/danesteals.mp3
(I gotta credit Menitrso, cause he found that link in an earlier thread)
Anways, if that doesnt spell "hack", then I dont know what does.
Also, what the fuck is up with that stupid hand gesture?! WIth the two fingers sticking up and why do all his dickridin fans do it too?
That is amazing. I've looked for clues myself, but never found any. Wow. Dane just went down even further in my book.
And what really gets me is, the crowd seems to laugh more for Dane than Louis. Bastards.
LordSimen
10-27-2006, 12:38 AM
Those jokes don't seem similar enough to me. Yes, the first one is about someone being hit by something and reacting to it, but that's where the connection ends. The jokes take totally different turns and purpose totally different situations and are set up completely different. They arn't the same jokes. As for the naming kids joke, Louis' is about naming a kid without a vowel, while Dane was making a Star Wars refrence with his joke. He also takes the joke later a step further by naming kids after saturday morning cartoon shows, something Louis CK never did. Once again, two different jokes. The itchiest asshole joke is only similar in that it's about having an itchy asshole, the delievery, the set up and the punchlines are completely differnt. And come on, do you think Louis CK is the only one who can think up a joke involving a itchy asshole? I mean think about it. I don't remember Dane every saying anything about farting it out to scratch it.
So no, Dane didn't rip anyone or anything off. His jokes are completely different from Louis CK's. By the way, the crowd laughed more at Dane's jokes because they were, well, better and funnier than Louis CK's, although he is a good comedian too.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-27-2006, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by LordSimen
Those jokes don't seem similar enough to me. Yes, the first one is about someone being hit by something and reacting to it, but that's where the connection ends. The jokes take totally different turns and purpose totally different situations and are set up completely different. They arn't the same jokes. As for the naming kids joke, Louis' is about naming a kid without a vowel, while Dane was making a Star Wars refrence with his joke. He also takes the joke later a step further by naming kids after saturday morning cartoon shows, something Louis CK never did. Once again, two different jokes. The itchiest asshole joke is only similar in that it's about having an itchy asshole, the delievery, the set up and the punchlines are completely differnt. And come on, do you think Louis CK is the only one who can think up a joke involving a itchy asshole? I mean think about it. I don't remember Dane every saying anything about farting it out to scratch it.
So no, Dane didn't rip anyone or anything off. His jokes are completely different from Louis CK's. By the way, the crowd laughed more at Dane's jokes because they were, well, better and funnier than Louis CK's, although he is a good comedian too.
Wow. You are really in denial. Oh, well.
LordSimen
10-27-2006, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
Wow. You are really in denial. Oh, well.
Not in denial, the jokes didn't seem similar enough to me to be rip offs. They had different set ups, punchlines and deliveries. Different jokes.
EVILxxx
10-27-2006, 02:37 AM
Originally posted by echo_bravo
Here you go: http://www.cringehumor.net/temp/danesteals.mp3
That's pretty bad.
echo_bravo
10-27-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by LordSimen
Those jokes don't seem similar enough to me. Yes, the first one is about someone being hit by something and reacting to it, but that's where the connection ends. The jokes take totally different turns and purpose totally different situations and are set up completely different. They arn't the same jokes. As for the naming kids joke, Louis' is about naming a kid without a vowel, while Dane was making a Star Wars refrence with his joke. He also takes the joke later a step further by naming kids after saturday morning cartoon shows, something Louis CK never did. Once again, two different jokes. The itchiest asshole joke is only similar in that it's about having an itchy asshole, the delievery, the set up and the punchlines are completely differnt. And come on, do you think Louis CK is the only one who can think up a joke involving a itchy asshole? I mean think about it. I don't remember Dane every saying anything about farting it out to scratch it.
So no, Dane didn't rip anyone or anything off. His jokes are completely different from Louis CK's. By the way, the crowd laughed more at Dane's jokes because they were, well, better and funnier than Louis CK's, although he is a good comedian too.
Hey, if you say so man. To each his own.
Brando @$$ Fat
10-27-2006, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by LordSimen
Those jokes don't seem similar enough to me. Yes, the first one is about someone being hit by something and reacting to it, but that's where the connection ends. The jokes take totally different turns and purpose totally different situations and are set up completely different. They arn't the same jokes. As for the naming kids joke, Louis' is about naming a kid without a vowel, while Dane was making a Star Wars refrence with his joke. He also takes the joke later a step further by naming kids after saturday morning cartoon shows, something Louis CK never did. Once again, two different jokes. The itchiest asshole joke is only similar in that it's about having an itchy asshole, the delievery, the set up and the punchlines are completely differnt. And come on, do you think Louis CK is the only one who can think up a joke involving a itchy asshole? I mean think about it. I don't remember Dane every saying anything about farting it out to scratch it.
So no, Dane didn't rip anyone or anything off. His jokes are completely different from Louis CK's. By the way, the crowd laughed more at Dane's jokes because they were, well, better and funnier than Louis CK's, although he is a good comedian too.
That's like saying Denis Leary is 100% original and Bill Hicks had nothing to do with the molding of his act.
Tyler_Durden_208
10-27-2006, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
That's like saying Denis Leary is 100% original and Bill Hicks had nothing to do with the molding of his act.
I was about to say the same thing, but I just kinda gave up. It makes no difference to me if Dane Cook has one more fanboy supporting his lame jokes.
LordSimen
10-28-2006, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
That's like saying Denis Leary is 100% original and Bill Hicks had nothing to do with the molding of his act.
No. It's like saying Dane Cook stole nothing from Louis CK because the only similar thing about their jokes are that they have a similar idea behind the creation of them. Other than that the jokes are completely different from one another. Different set ups, different scenarios, different punchlines. Different jokes, similar idea.
AaronisMe
11-03-2006, 06:06 AM
I don't really get his humor. Admittedly, he was funny in Waiting. Maybe yelling is funny to college students.
I think George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Chris Rock, and Dave Chappelle rule stand-up.
LedZeppelin1114
11-03-2006, 10:05 AM
I think the argument that he is style over substance is kind of a weak one, since all good stand-ups make a name for themselves with their style. Mitch Hedberg's shit wouldn't be nearly as funny if it wasn't spoken through his style of delivery. I honestly think that Dane keeps getting so much shit for the simple fact that he has blown up to astronomical levels of popularity. The same shit was said about Pryor when he first blew up, and today few can deny that he was the one of the greatest stand-up comics of all time. Granted my all-time favorite comic was a guy who didn't really blow up in America until after his death (that would be Bill Hicks), but there are plenty of insanely popular comics who are genuinely skilled comics (Chris Rock, Mitch Hedberg, Lewis Black, etc., etc.)
Annie Hall
11-03-2006, 02:49 PM
If I have to hear the word "BAMF" one more time, I'll have to kill something. Dane Cook has very, very fleeting moments of being funny. For the most part, though, he is just an irritant.
Bravo to AJ for mentioning the ACTUAL funniest person on earth, Eddie Izzard.
cloneofkelso
11-03-2006, 05:56 PM
I used to be a huge dane fan and still love him but he has really blown up which i guess is what you get into show buisness for so i guess i cant get mad. However,i dont like the choices he has been making preety much abandoning his stand up that got him where he is,instead he is doing reallly shitty movies i just dont understand i hope that he wakes up and goes back to his usual great stuff.
TheDeadWalk
11-03-2006, 07:05 PM
What an amazing three-step process we have here:
1.) Louis CK tells an unfunny joke.
2.) Dane Cook takes the same joke and keeps it unfunny.
3.) The makers of Guiness Draft clang their bottles together and shout, "Brilliant!"
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/brilliant.jpg
moviebuff01
11-05-2006, 11:55 PM
I think Dane Cook is funny, which has a lot to with the way in which he presents it. Some things that could be said by other comedians wouldnt be as funny, but the fact that he sells it with his mannerisms on stage and his loose attitude on stage makes him funny. I guess the majority thinks he has "sold" out by doing some movies now, but I mean, why the hell not? If the moment presents itself, why not do some movies? Sure, they may not be blockbusters, but I dont think he's trying to be a Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp kind of actor... he's just doing some films to get laughs from the audience. I liked his character in Waiting, though it was a small role and I havent had a chance to see Employee of the Month. Basically I think he's a funny dude.
LedZeppelin1114
11-06-2006, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by moviebuff01
I think Dane Cook is funny, which has a lot to with the way in which he presents it. Some things that could be said by other comedians wouldnt be as funny, but the fact that he sells it with his mannerisms on stage and his loose attitude on stage makes him funny. I guess the majority thinks he has "sold" out by doing some movies now, but I mean, why the hell not? If the moment presents itself, why not do some movies? Sure, they may not be blockbusters, but I dont think he's trying to be a Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp kind of actor... he's just doing some films to get laughs from the audience. I liked his character in Waiting, though it was a small role and I havent had a chance to see Employee of the Month. Basically I think he's a funny dude.
That is exactly how I feel. I did see Employee of the Month, and yeah, it wasn't really great, but Richard Pryor, one of the greatest stand-up comics of all time, has some truly awful films to his name. Why is it whenever a comic, actor, or musician with a cult following finally deservedly gets a HUGE following, they've sold out. I would agree that in some cases this is true (i.e. Green Day), but in many cases the reason they probably blew up is that a bigger audience finally saw in that entertainer what all of the loyal cult fans did. Example: Johnny Depp after Pirates. I do not believe Depp sold out, I believe everyone else finally got a fucking clue.
LedZeppelin1114
11-06-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
That's like saying Denis Leary is 100% original and Bill Hicks had nothing to do with the molding of his act.
I don't know if Hicks really molded it, as much as he said it and Leary just repeated it verbatim.
echo_bravo
11-06-2006, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by moviebuff01
I think Dane Cook is funny, which has a lot to with the way in which he presents it. Some things that could be said by other comedians wouldnt be as funny, but the fact that he sells it with his mannerisms on stage and his loose attitude on stage makes him funny. I guess the majority thinks he has "sold" out by doing some movies now, but I mean, why the hell not? If the moment presents itself, why not do some movies? Sure, they may not be blockbusters, but I dont think he's trying to be a Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp kind of actor... he's just doing some films to get laughs from the audience. I liked his character in Waiting, though it was a small role and I havent had a chance to see Employee of the Month. Basically I think he's a funny dude.
I dont care if he does movies. He is just not funny. Plus he is a known hack.
Lost in Space
11-06-2006, 06:54 PM
lets bring mitch hedburg back to life
moviebuff01
11-06-2006, 07:44 PM
mitch hedburg was awesome
The Postmaster General
11-29-2006, 01:50 AM
He was funny in a Comedy Central special I'd seen him on a few years back. The joke about quitting pot and having ESP was memorable. Then the next time I saw him was on an episode on SNL and it was pretty much in the top of the worst ones I'd ever seen, and I've seen most of the ones with the second cast.
EVILxxx
11-29-2006, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
He was funny in a Comedy Central special I'd seen him on a few years back. The joke about quitting pot and having ESP was memorable. Then the next time I saw him was on an episode on SNL and it was pretty much in the top of the worst ones I'd ever seen, and I've seen most of the ones with the second cast.
LOL!
You're thinking of this guy:
http://www.comedycentral.com/images/ccmovies/people/headshots/s/Swardson_Nick.jpg
CyclicNightmare
11-29-2006, 04:55 PM
Humor = subjective
This thread = not movie related = locked.
someguy
11-29-2006, 04:59 PM
Dane Cook is a semi-successful actor now, it's movie related
The Postmaster General
11-29-2006, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by EVILxxx
LOL!
You're thinking of this guy:
http://www.comedycentral.com/images/ccmovies/people/headshots/s/Swardson_Nick.jpg
You know, there was a part of me thinking it wasn't Cook who did that bit, but another part of me brutally attacked that first part and left it for dead in a dumpster.
So.... Who is the other guy? Please tell me it was Cook and not him I remember doing a dinosaur impersonation.
Yeah, I guess at this point I can't offer much defense for Cook. His guest stint on SNL was, and I am in no way exaggerating, among the worst episodes I'd seen in its 30 year history. This pain stakes me, because I told my wife that Dane Cook was really funny (thinking of the ESP/Pot bit) and during the monologue on the ill-fated SNL episode, she suggested I lost my sense of humor. No... It was actually my memory and facial recognition that was lost.
Anyway - Again, who is that guy? Anyone else a fan? Why isn't he as popular as Cook? Damn, now I am totally supporting this rant.
Also - Since when have any of these rants been anything other than subjective?
EVILxxx
11-29-2006, 09:24 PM
His name is Nick Swardson. He played in Grandma's Boy and he's in a few Reno 911 episodes.
He's pretty funny. Couldn't tell you why he isn't as popular as Cook. Then again I'd be at a loss to figure out why Cook is more famous than alot of other more talented comedians.
redorblue01
11-29-2006, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by EVILxxx
His name is Nick Swardson. He played in Grandma's Boy and he's in a few Reno 911 episodes.
He's pretty funny. Couldn't tell you why he isn't as popular as Cook. Then again I'd be at a loss to figure out why Cook is more famous than alot of other more talented comedians.
His old Comedy Central Presents is really funny. So is Louis C.K.'s but his One Night Stand on HBO is even funnier. Dane's Comedy Central Presents actually isn't that funny.
The Postmaster General
11-30-2006, 12:59 AM
I used to watch a lot more standup. What shows or channels (aside from Comedy Central Presents) would you guys recommend? Do they still have any shows like that one they had in the early 90s where they'd just show clips from many different lessor-known comedians?
EVILxxx
11-30-2006, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I used to watch a lot more standup. What shows or channels (aside from Comedy Central Presents) would you guys recommend? Do they still have any shows like that one they had in the early 90s where they'd just show clips from many different lessor-known comedians?
They have Premium blend on Comedy central that have a bunch of relative unknowns perform. It's usually hit or miss. They also have comic remix which have 20 second highlights from a number of comedians.
Other than comedy central the only other places for standup I'm aware of are on the late-night talk shows and HBO.
The Postmaster General
11-30-2006, 01:39 AM
Would I be off the mark to say stand-up isn't flurishing as much as it used to? The 70s and 80s it seemed huge, but now a days it's like all the stand-ups just become TV actors.
EVILxxx
11-30-2006, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Would I be off the mark to say stand-up isn't flurishing as much as it used to? The 70s and 80s it seemed huge, but now a days it's like all the stand-ups just become TV actors.
No you wouldn't. I don't think we'll ever see a boom like there was during the late 70s to 80s. But it is pretty healthy right now. But you're right it seems like you get a little bit of buzz as a stand-up and you get offered a tv show or a cartoon, though I don't see many of them giving up stand-up after doing so .
The Postmaster General
11-30-2006, 02:44 PM
It seems like HBO's Comic Relief was the height of stand-ups popularity.
Remember how big a success Eddie Murphy's stand-up films were? Compare it with Runteldat, or whatever - pretty much bombed. There have been other stand-up oriented films, and with the exception of Blue Collar Comedy, I think they've all done pretty poorly.
Somehow I think this is all Jerry Seinfeld's fault - or the fault of his show becoming so huge. You can almost trace the fall of serious stand-up to the rise of that show.
Since this is already a bit OT, I just want to throw in that I have an old tape of SNL's 15 year anniversary, and during it, they play an ad for a new show coming out called Seinfeld. The way they tried to market it was that it was two shows in one - a stand up show, and a sit-com. They even used split screen showing Jerry on stage and Jerry in character. It was pretty funny, because essentially that was how the show started, but it became knows as something different (show about nothing) and even eventually dropped the stand-up segments.
That's because stand-up died. Haha.
dreamcurls
11-30-2006, 04:47 PM
I think he can be funny, now and then.
His first Comedy Central special was the best.
Don't think he's hot, so to speak. But he's definatly a cutie.
echo_bravo
11-30-2006, 08:29 PM
Why isn't he as popular as Cook?
Because he isnt way hot, like totally!!!
kubotakhan01
12-15-2006, 06:19 PM
DANE COOK SUCKS!!!!!!! he's just loud and obnoxious. An obvious attempt to cover for his lack of talent.
Brando @$$ Fat
12-16-2006, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by LedZeppelin1114
I think the argument that he is style over substance is kind of a weak one, since all good stand-ups make a name for themselves with their style. Mitch Hedberg's shit wouldn't be nearly as funny if it wasn't spoken through his style of delivery. I honestly think that Dane keeps getting so much shit for the simple fact that he has blown up to astronomical levels of popularity. The same shit was said about Pryor when he first blew up, and today few can deny that he was the one of the greatest stand-up comics of all time. Granted my all-time favorite comic was a guy who didn't really blow up in America until after his death (that would be Bill Hicks), but there are plenty of insanely popular comics who are genuinely skilled comics (Chris Rock, Mitch Hedberg, Lewis Black, etc., etc.)
Hedberg was NEVER popular. Even after death, only a select few who are avid followers of stand-up comedy know much about him or his work.
Tyler_Durden_208
12-16-2006, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Hedberg was NEVER popular. Even after death, only a select few who are avid followers of stand-up comedy know much about him or his work.
Huh. Most people I mention Hedberg to who aren't standard followers of stand up know him. But I'll agree he wasn't "popular".
Brando @$$ Fat
12-16-2006, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
Huh. Most people I mention Hedberg to who aren't standard followers of stand up know him. But I'll agree he wasn't "popular".
Well, maybe what I said was a bit of a stretch, but I still say he was never popular. He got a little attention from Comedy Central, but other than that it was all him. I don't think it was his comedic ability either, he was just too much of a junkie for the public to love.
Tyler_Durden_208
12-16-2006, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Well, maybe what I said was a bit of a stretch, but I still say he was never popular. He got a little attention from Comedy Central, but other than that it was all him. I don't think it was his comedic ability either, he was just too much of a junkie for the public to love.
Yeah, I think most people would rather not pay attention to a comedian who begs people to throw drugs onstage... :(
ShoDaddy
01-16-2007, 05:57 PM
Honestly, I think Dane Cook is hilarious. Everyone who is bashing on him is only doing that because he's gotten incredibly popular. I bet if he didn't have all of these comedy CD's and HBO specials and did all the lame movies (they both really did suck) and all he did was the occasional stand-up special on Comedy Central with all the same material that he has now, then its very likely that all these opinions would change. Everyone is just trying not to be "conformist" by liking someone that everyone else seemingly likes aswell. As for calling him a hack, thats bogus. Hes made millions and gone on tours across the nation and has had the highest rated comedy CD since Steve Martin's.
Of course, I'll probably get flamed for this post, but I actually told my real opinion instead of most everyone who jumped on the bandwagon in fear of getting flamed.
Now, bring on the bashing!
moviedude11
01-16-2007, 11:02 PM
i also saw dane cook's comedy central presents special a long time ago and it was hilarious.His energy made me think wow he has to be on drugs.honestly i think he isn't as funny now
therealjohng
01-16-2007, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by ShoDaddy
Everyone who is bashing on him is only doing that because he's gotten incredibly popular.
I'm pretty sure the reason I'm bashing him is because I think he is terribly unfucking funny.
And yes, that is my real opinion.
poopontheshoes7
01-17-2007, 08:16 AM
I used to really love him, I still do listen to him everyonce in a while, but not much anymore. I like his off the wall humor, it's just so corky I can't help but like it.
I agree, he is over exposed, but I still find him refreshing.
Sigur509
01-17-2007, 01:34 PM
He has some funny materal. But I just dont get the big deal about him.
Brando @$$ Fat
01-17-2007, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by ShoDaddy
Honestly, I think Dane Cook is hilarious. Everyone who is bashing on him is only doing that because he's gotten incredibly popular. I bet if he didn't have all of these comedy CD's and HBO specials and did all the lame movies (they both really did suck) and all he did was the occasional stand-up special on Comedy Central with all the same material that he has now, then its very likely that all these opinions would change. Everyone is just trying not to be "conformist" by liking someone that everyone else seemingly likes aswell. As for calling him a hack, thats bogus. Hes made millions and gone on tours across the nation and has had the highest rated comedy CD since Steve Martin's.
Of course, I'll probably get flamed for this post, but I actually told my real opinion instead of most everyone who jumped on the bandwagon in fear of getting flamed.
Now, bring on the bashing!
I love it when fans will accuse all naysayers of only trying to be nonconformists. It really shows how some people refuse to believe that a good many people simply disagree with them. I don't like Dane Cook because he's absolutely dependent on his delivery. Anyone can be spontaneous, Hell I know I can be. The great stand up comics like Bill Hicks and George Carlin could come up with solid material and not have to depend on their delivery for laughs (yet, they all had solid delivery....so it all works out).
You can ditch the "rebel in the mist" attitude, we're not a bunch of bandwagon-jumping canaries who are all trying to fit in.
There's the bashing.
ShoDaddy
01-17-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
I love it when fans will accuse all naysayers of only trying to be nonconformists. It really shows how some people refuse to believe that a good many people simply disagree with them. I don't like Dane Cook because he's absolutely dependent on his delivery. Anyone can be spontaneous, Hell I know I can be. The great stand up comics like Bill Hicks and George Carlin could come up with solid material and not have to depend on their delivery for laughs (yet, they all had solid delivery....so it all works out).
You can ditch the "rebel in the mist" attitude, we're not a bunch of bandwagon-jumping canaries who are all trying to fit in.
There's the bashing.
Well you may be someone who isn't jumping on the bandwagon but you have no idea about all of the other people who've posted so far. I'm not saying I know everyone's feelings on the subject but a lot of skepticism is raised when everyone just happens to dislike him when hes one of the most popular comedians right now.
Tyler_Durden_208
01-17-2007, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by therealjohng
I'm pretty sure the reason I'm bashing him is because I think he is terribly unfucking funny.
And yes, that is my real opinion.
Ditto. Pwnd.
Raimo69
02-01-2007, 05:33 PM
The worst find about dane cook is that every convocation will have with someone he will be brought up in some way saying that he is the funniest person. A friend of mine had told me this not sure if its true is that Dane Cook stolen some of Mitch Hedberg's jokes.
Brando @$$ Fat
02-01-2007, 05:56 PM
I'm not going to bash the man if he MIGHT have stolen someone's material...because in a career field with so many people telling so many jokes, the chances of two jokes being similar isn't very rare. That Louis C.K. joke and that Dane Cook were similar but I don't think Dane necessarily stole anything from Louis. Denis Leary, on the other hand, undoubtedly stole material from Bill Hicks. Not only did he copy the ways Hicks would deliver jokes, but his jokes were at times uncanny to BIll Hicks's bits. Especially when it came to smoking jokes. Hell, I even think, but I'm not sure if I remember correctly, that he stole the Hicks joke about being in "the awkward position of supporting the war but being against the troops."
AaronisMe
02-01-2007, 07:25 PM
He bugs me almost as much as Andy Samberg. Their type of comedy is quite unappealing to me. I prefer Chris Rock, George Carlin,and Denis Leary
Badbird
02-01-2007, 09:40 PM
I listened to the mp3 adn while they sound almost identical in places, it could very well have been subconscious. How many comedians do you think he's seen? Plus if those are the only three jokes he "stole," I'm not gonna lose any sleep. And it's not like he did that to make it famous. On the HBO show it had old home movies and he was clearly set on becoming a performer/comedian from a very early age. It's not an act.
I thought Viscious Circle was pretty weak compaired to his other CDs. He's started getting away from his bizzaro humor and started telling really long winded stories that aren't that funny.
evilmonkey
02-03-2007, 04:58 PM
People who say, "Oh you don't like Dane Cook because he's so popular right now" can suck it because I heard him back before he was the big timer he is now and I didn't think it was funny then. I normally wouldn't be so pissed about this kinda thing, but what annoys me is that I'm in college and people here (an many other places in America) act like you're some kinda jackass if you don't like him. I miss Hedburg.
blk_flower
02-18-2007, 10:14 PM
I've laughed quite a lot listening to him, his material though sounds like stuff he thinks about a lot during his regular days, nothing ever really funny. I've thought about half of the things he's talked about, so when I watch or listen to him I just say to myself, yeah that's completley true. But he never... made me think of anything new.
marcbrochill
03-06-2007, 01:04 AM
Nowadays if you ask someone to name three stand up comedians their response is usually something like "uhhhh...Dane Cook ...uhhh...hmmm.." I'm also sick and tired of constantly hearing quotes from him too.
Agent86
03-09-2007, 04:05 PM
I'm hip with this. Dane Cook's act is not funny.
And his delivery is just over-the-top obnoxious.
I'm not saying the guy will never be funny, it just hasn't happened yet.
For me at least.
HeavyFknMetal
03-09-2007, 05:40 PM
I first saw Dane Cook live 5 years ago at Zanies, and he ripped the place apart. It was ridiculously funny and after the show he signed everyones, I mean everyones (around 100 people or so) ticket.
Harmful if Swallowed is phenomenal but I do believe he's gradually getting worse. I still find him funny and I'll watch him whenever he's on, but nothing compares to his early days.
You know what though, the people that saw Lewis Black when he was up and coming probably say the same thing. Dane Cook is riding high and he's at the peek of his career, theres always gonna be someone that hates or dislikes him, especially when hes become so famous.
Also, I don't blame Dane Cook for the shitty films he's doing, I mean I blame him for even considering them, but I don't blame them for being unfunny. He doesn't write them, it's not his fault.
TheDeadWalk
03-10-2007, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by HeavyFknMetal
Also, I don't blame Dane Cook for the shitty films he's doing, I mean I blame him for even considering them, but I don't blame them for being unfunny. He doesn't write them, it's not his fault.
I figure actors do somewhat have a say in which film they choose to be in. Just because he doesn't write the film doesn't mean he can't read the script and say "This is shit, I'm not doing it."
predator 33
03-12-2007, 03:58 AM
employee of the month was so so -watch it a couple of times and it MAY grow on you,waiting was much funnier but people will say it wasn't because of dane cook he was hardly in it-either way he is 1 for 2 as far as films go and thats not a bad thing.i really enjoy his stand-up and have for a couple of years now but tourgasm was not really funny at all-mainly because it was more of a reality show than a stand-up showcase.as for scripts , well some things read well but don't transfer so well when put to film and S N L is every comedians dream gig so he would be crazy to turn it down-problem there was other than the news skit nothing on that show is funny anymore-lame jokes and skits galore.dane , like any other stand up probably did it because it's S N L and i don't think it helped his popularity any because the sketches just weren't funny-not his doing as much as crappy writing.comedy is like any other art form these days , there is so much of it out there that some things inevitably get repeated in some form or another-see roy"chubby"brown who is awesome and popular in the u.k.but some of his stuff has a dangerfield feel to it-not stolen just similar.is there an original BAND out there who doesn't sound kinda like someone else? pryor didn't have the amount of competition back in the day that someone like cook has today or bands have that say elvis had back then-nothing bad about pryor so don't bite my head off please.it's just that if someone makes it today then it's all that more impressive because of the sheer volume of comedy out there right now-cook must be doing something right?
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