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BorderEevilIII

10-26-2006, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson

I'd truly like to see him drop dead.

I more likely wanna see the f@ker......

GO AWAY PERIOD!

seeing Michael J. Fox in his condition breaks my heart...
Limbaugh saying hes faking just makes me wish he is afflicted w/ what Fox has.

WHAT AN IDIOT :rolleyes:

Beeblebrox

10-26-2006, 06:05 AM

Olberman responds.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/KO-LimbaughMJFox.mov

;)

ZenDude

10-26-2006, 09:41 AM

Great rule of thumb to be a good human being and wise voter.

Do everything opposite that sad people like Rush Limbaugh do and you'll be fine for the most part.

screamer581

10-26-2006, 10:15 AM

Urge to kill...rising.

powersauce

10-26-2006, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by BorderEevilIII
I more likely wanna see the f@ker......

GO AWAY PERIOD!

seeing Michael J. Fox in his condition breaks my heart...
Limbaugh saying hes faking just makes me wish he is afflicted w/ what Fox has.

WHAT AN IDIOT :rolleyes:

I saw it on Showbiz Tonight on CNN's Headline News Network and bawled my eyes out for a minute. It's sad to see Marty McFly/Alex P. Keaton/Brantley Foster like this. I feel like part of my childhood has been ripped apart. :( The fact that MJF is a class act just makes me hate that fat Republican pendejo even more.

Beenthere

10-26-2006, 12:42 PM

My liberal friends, try to watch Glenn Beck show on CNaziN.

If Fox did not take his medication for the ad - he has a right to do that, damn, his life depends on finding a cure. I wish Michael the best.

Rush Limbaugh rightfully apologized in case his statement was wrong. Politics is still a very dirty business.

Beeblebrox

10-26-2006, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Beenthere
If Fox did not take his medication for the ad - he has a right to do that, damn, his life depends on finding a cure. I wish Michael the best.

As Fox and numerous other knowledgeable people have pointed out, the shaking is a symptom of the medication, not the disease. So Fox's shaking is because he IS taking his meds.

Rush Limbaugh rightfully apologized in case his statement was wrong. Politics is still a very dirty business.

Not surprisingly, this isn't true - just like everything else associated with Rush and his defenders.

Rush said he would apologize IF what he said weren't true. But even when the real facts about the disease and the medication were pointed out to him, this was his response:

"I stand by what I said. I take back none of what I said. I wouldn’t rephrase it any differently. It is what I believe; it is what I think. It is what I have found to be true."

And politics being a dirty business is no excuse for Rush's lying or defending Rush's lies.

Buck Turgidson

10-26-2006, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Beenthere
Rush Limbaugh rightfully apologized in case his statement was wrong. As Beebs has wrtten, he's done absolutely nothing of the kind. He attacked a man with a debilitating disease, belittled his symptoms, accused him of being a liar and a fraud and then refused to back away when rightfully proven to be incorrect in his factual assertions. He's a waste of skin and sinew.

ComeNightfall

10-26-2006, 07:01 PM

Rush Limbaugh is a poor excuse for a human being. Michael J. Fox has had this disease for several years and has campaigned for a cure since he was diagnosed. He is helping non-famous people with this disease by using his celebrity to fight for a worthwhile cause. And he has responded to Rush's attack with class. He could have brought up his addiction to pain killers but he didn't.

But Fox has nothing to worry about. Rush will come out like the big pathetic piece of shit he's always been. If anything, I think that old nutbag will help Fox and the Dems in their quest for stem cell research.

deadguy76

10-30-2006, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by powersauce
...being "a big fat idiot."

It took you this long to figure that out?

Anyone know the joke "What the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg"?

Lynn7

10-30-2006, 09:12 PM

Fox said in his book that he had gone off his meds when he appeared before congress to let them see how bad his symptoms were so it is not a big surprise that Rush jumped to the conclusion he did. Everyone was shocked to see Fox when they saw that ad- everyone said that they couldn't beleive how bad his symptoms had gotten. I guess Rush chose to think it was because he went off his meds while others thought his disease had gotten much worse.

Rush himself got abused when he went deaf so it is funny that everyone is attacking his comments about Fox when they all jumped with glee when he went deaf.

Rush has never been known to be sensitive so although I would have wished he just had not commented on this at all or else if he had just quoted from the book and wondered aloud about it. In the age of political correctness it is not really always about what you say but how you word it I guess. Anyway, this incident ended up getting Fox a lot of extra exposure for his cause and he came out of it looking good and Rush looked bad so all in all, Fox won.

Beeblebrox

10-30-2006, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Lynn7
Rush himself got abused when he went deaf so it is funny that everyone is attacking his comments about Fox when they all jumped with glee when he went deaf.

Name one example of someone criticizing Rush for going deaf, let alone slandering him the way Rush did Fox.

As I recall, Rush was criticized for illegal drug abuse, popping 30 Oxycontin a day, an issue he had criticized OTHERS for prior to being arrested, insisting that drug abusers should face the maximum possible prison sentences. The issue there was Rush's hypocrisy, not his illnesses.

Rush is a degenerate. He's a drug-abusing, hypocritical, sexual deviant who's been married and divorced three times while spouting about "family values." Frankly, he and the right-wing are made for each other.

Buck Turgidson

10-30-2006, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Lynn7
In the age of political correctness it is not really always about what you say but how you word it I guess. Not physically mocking someone with a debilitating disease in public isn't "political correctness", it's basic human decency.

It also could be filed under the rubric of "Acting Like An Adult In Public".Originally posted by deadguy76 Anyone know the joke "What the difference between Rush Limbaugh and the Hindenburg"? One's a flaming Nazi gasbag and the other one blew up over Lakehurst, NJ.

And before anyone gets all Godwin on me, keep in mind that Limbaugh is the turd who gave the world "Feminazi".

So, I don't want to hear it.

Beeblebrox

10-31-2006, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
[B]Not physically mocking someone with a debilitating disease in public isn't "political correctness", it's basic human decency.

I agree. What does Rush Limbaugh openly, ignorantly, and maliciously mocking and slandering Michael J. Fox over his very real and debilitating disease have to do with the "age of political correctness"? Is there another age in which Rush's choice of words would have been perfectly acceptable to you, Lynn?

RustyRazor

10-31-2006, 09:22 AM

Rush?
Talk about being improperly named.
Only thing he's "rushing" to is the banquet table before all of the croissants are gone.
Why would someone with a platform speak ill of someone with a horrible disease?

1) Publicity (wrong as it is, it gets people to listen to your ramblings.)
2) There aren't any healthy individuals that can be bashed or dragged through the mud.
3) He's an oversized, self righteous, puss sack doing a poor imitation of an infected, growth on the ass of America and a waste of blood, bone, and that Stay Puft cream that make up his preposterous consistency.

Kick a man when he's down, chumly?
Jessica Alba, take the day off.

Rush Limbaugh...FUCK YOU!

Lynn7

10-31-2006, 01:29 PM

I'm not defending what he said- I said that Fox won this round cause he looks good and Rush looks bad. But while we are attacking people for their insensitivity are you guys OK with the way that Bill MAher dressed up for Halloween as Steve Irwin with a stingray stinger sticking out of his bloody chest? i am looking forward to seeing the outrage and publicity over the major media airwaves on that one.

Beeblebrox

10-31-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Lynn7
[B]I'm not defending what he said

You certainly have no problem with what he said. You're more upset that OTHER people are upset with Rush than you are with what Rush said about Fox.

And you didn't answer my question: WHO attacked Rush for going deaf? Who jumped with glee?

But while we are attacking people for their insensitivity are you guys OK with the way that Bill MAher dressed up for Haoloween as Steve Irwin with a stingray stinger sticking out of his bloody chest?

Way to change the subject to a completely irrelevant topic. But at least you didn't bring up Bill Clinton. For a right-winger, that's an improvement. And I wouldn't play the hypocrisy card if I were you, Lynn. You've failed to respond to questions of your own double-standards when it comes to celebrities and the media before.

Lynn7

10-31-2006, 01:40 PM

Here is the stuff on Bill Maher:

Picture (http://yh.yayhooray.com/thread/99535/bill-maher-+-Steve-Irwin)

Story (http://www.theage.com.au/news/people/badtaste-irwin-costume-sparks-fury/2006/10/31/1162056970155.html)

Beeblebrox- I'll debate with you over in politics about the other stuff- see you there!

Beeblebrox

10-31-2006, 02:20 PM

Well obviously there's a desperate need on Lynn's part to change the subject away from her defense of Rush's vile comments.

I'm not a member of the Politics forum (which Lynn is probably aware of and why she ran there), so I'll just say here that Rush's comments aren't about political correctness or insensitivity, which is how one would best characterize Bill Maher's costume.

It's about Rush's vicious slander and lies about Fox because Fox is for stem-cell research and endorsed a Democratic candidate. And rather than debate him on that issue, he'd rather accuse of him of skipping his meds to "make Republicans look bad." And when it was pointed out to Rush that the shaking is actually a symptom of the meds, Rush then accused Fox of deliberately OVER-medicating.

Fox has endorsed and continues to endorse politicians regardless of party. He is a supporter of Republican Arlen Specter, and did a virtually identical ad for him two years ago with nary a peep from Rush or anyone else on the right.

So Fox believes in a cause and crosses party lines to support it. Rush is a degenerate liar who will say anything to keep Republicans in power.

Thankfully, most everyone in this thread, except for Lynn, sides with sanity.

Lynn7

10-31-2006, 04:44 PM

I've looked through my comments and have seen nothing to indicate where I defended Rush's words or actions. I'm sorry you don't belong to the politics forum but I know I can't get into that debate in this forum. I think that all people should be sensitive about illness and death, as well as race and religion, and I will not be defending anyone who tries to hurt another's feelings. If he didn't apologize for his comments then he should do so immediately. Everyone who gives offense should apologize and change their ways And Maher and South Park writers should also apologize for their hurtful actions to Steve Irwin's family.

Beeblebrox

10-31-2006, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by Lynn7
I've looked through my comments and have seen nothing to indicate where I defended Rush's words or actions.

Then you didn't look hard enough: "Fox said in his book that he had gone off his meds when he appeared before congress to let them see how bad his symptoms were so it is not a big surprise that Rush jumped to the conclusion he did. Everyone was shocked to see Fox when they saw that ad- everyone said that they couldn't beleive how bad his symptoms had gotten. I guess Rush chose to think it was because he went off his meds while others thought his disease had gotten much worse."

And while you posted pictures and stories about Bill Maher, you still haven't provided any examples of any public figures abusing Rush Limbaugh for losing his hearing.

If he didn't apologize for his comments then he should do so immediately.

I frankly don't care if he apologizes or not. An apology is not going to change Rush from a degenerate drug-abusing hypocritical liar into something else.

My hope is that others see Rush for what he is and stop listening to him or taking him seriously.

Everyone who gives offense should apologize and change their ways And Maher and South Park writers should also apologize for their hurtful actions to Steve Irwin's family.

I though you were AGAINST political correctness?!

Buck Turgidson

10-31-2006, 06:36 PM

I think Beeblebrox, as usual, has covered all the bases and stated the case eloquently. Limbaugh is more than a vicious douchbag. He's actively working to destroy Fox's credibility on this issue, in the face of the fact that the man actually has the illness and the fact that he's well-informed about it's effects and the prospects for results in stem cell research.

This isn't simply a case of Limbaugh being a worthless prick who can't be tolerated in civilized company. That's true, and it puts him in the same company as Parker and Stone (who I have long criticized here, while many of the people who normally also applaud Limbaugh's act gloried in their sophmoric bullshit) and Maher, who has always been a shallow loudmouth, even if he occasionally hits on a point that I agree with.

Limbaugh is a qualitatively different case. He tried to undercut a man of impeccable credibility, (with the help of his acolytes in the media, like that worthless dildo Matt Lauer.) This effort has failed and Limbaugh has shown the world, yet one more time, what a sickening tub of offal he truly is.

Lynn7

10-31-2006, 11:15 PM

I am not defending what he said, I am UNDERSTANDING what he said and what led up to it. I wish he hadn't said it but then as I have said before Rush has never been known for his sensitivity- never. He says many outrageous things as does Al Franken and Michael Moore. They all throw bombs out all the time.

Unfortunately, at the time Rush went deaf, I did not compile a list of who said mean things about Rush. But I do remember the negative comments were out there- I don't remember too many people wishing him well. He was a hypocrite with his comments about drug abuse but on the other hand he is not the only hypocrite in the news. I see evidence of hypocrisy every single day. Rush's drug use dominated the news for a week or more and so did the Rush/ Fox story. I have seen huge stories that have been totally overlooked by the media so it is always amusing to see which things they choose to latch on to and talk about for weeks.

I like Michael J. Fox. I think he has handled the situation with class and dignity and that he looks good while Rush looks bad. Hope I made myself clear.

Buck Turgidson

11-01-2006, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by Lynn7
I am UNDERSTANDING what he said and what led up to it.That's not too hard. He's an ignorant, big mouthed, heartless prick. Mystery solved. He says many outrageous things as does Al Franken and Michael Moore. They all throw bombs out all the time. Find an example of either man mocking someone with a debilitating disorder and accusing them of lying about the symptoms of it and their severity.

I don't think this "Look over there!!" argument technique of yours, where you try to equate things and people that aren't equal, or in some cases even comparable, is getting much traction around here.

Beeblebrox

11-01-2006, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
I don't think this "Look over there!!" argument technique of yours, where you try to equate things and people that aren't equal, or in some cases even comparable, is getting much traction around here. [/B]

I agree. I will certainly point out hypocrisy when I see it, like Lynn and celebrity politics, but just to invoke Al Franken without any specifics or to bring up vague anonymous abuses Rush supposedly suffered when he announced his hearing loss just isn't cutting it.

Frankly, the next best parallel I can think of is not from Al Franken or Michael Moore but from Ann Coulter, who recently called the 9-11 widows "harpies" who enjoyed the deaths of their husbands.

Lynn7

11-01-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by Buck Turgidson
That's not too hard. He's an ignorant, big mouthed, heartless prick. Mystery solved. Find an example of either man mocking someone with a debilitating disorder and accusing them of lying about the symptoms of it and their severity.

I don't think this "Look over there!!" argument technique of yours, where you try to equate things and people that aren't equal, or in some cases even comparable, is getting much traction around here.

I am not trying to get traction- I am having a discussion. I always "look over there." I like to look at society in context. That is the way I think.