What is people's fascination with Tarantino?

[Gordon]

An excerpt from imdb:

Germophobe Rose McGowan was so disgusted by conditions in a strip club where she filmed scenes for Quentin Tarantino's new movie Grindhouse she insisted crew members sanitize her pole. The actress plays a sexy stripper-turned-one-legged killer in the upcoming action film and she spent a few days convinced she was going to come down with a contracted illness. She says, "I made them Windex the pole. That's a lot of bacteria adding up over the course of an evening."

I mean, "Quentin Tarantino's new film?" She wasn't even in his segment. Rodriguez name isn't even mentioned in spite of the fact that it's his segment, and he broke up with his wife and started a relationship with McGowan. Not that this article is the only time anyone has seen this shit too. It's everywhere. Tarantino's name was huge on the Killing Zoe promotions yet Avary's was barely noticeable (invisible if you didn't look for it.)

Not to discredit Tarantino. He's an awesome motherfucker that makes awesome movies (even though he's a super arrogant motherfucker. I still love him. I think we all know someone we really like that is super arrogant) But why is it that his name sells shit? I mean his name gets plastered over everyone else's when all he does is "present" or "produce" etc. I'm sure you guys have noticed this and have opinions.

This is not meant as a Tarantino bashing thread, so don't come in here if that's all your looking for

[X-Nightcrawler]

Every movie he does is either lots of fun or feels nostalgic.

I think that's it. Not my favorite director, but I enjoy his stuff. But I'm that one guy you probably heard about who isn't at all psyched at all for "Grindhouse". Especially Tarantino's bit. If it gets cut in two here, I'd probably just go see Terror Planet.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Every movie he does is either lots of fun or feels nostalgic.

I think that's it. Not my favorite director, but I enjoy his stuff. But I'm that one guy you probably heard about who isn't at all psyched at all for "Grindhouse". Especially Tarantino's bit. If it gets cut in two here, I'd probably just go see Terror Planet.

No, no. I'm not talking about his films. I mean his name. He himself. Do people associate his name with Pulp Fiction so they want to see the movie? He makes great movies but his name is used (often times exclusively) WAY too much in marketing.

And I assume you mean Planet Terror? :D

[WebHed]

I agree Tarentino get plastered every where just to sell a movie...like all those karate flicks that have been coming out & the ad will say "QUENTIN TARENTINO PRESENTS....BLAH BLAH". meanwhile he has absolutely nothing to do with the flick what so ever...Don't get me wrong he is the man..
<<Favorite movie

but hollywood should try other marketing schemes to sell their respctive projects.

[Digifruitella]

Tarantino sells.

his name is a brand name.

[IronMonkey]

He is God

And if not, he knows God

I want to know God

I want to be friends with Gods friends

Therefore I worship QT - who either is God - or knows God

:D

I love upsetting QT bashers. :p

Seriously, the man is a quirky talanted mofo - nuff said.

Will he eventually make a crappy flick? Sure - See Scorcese, Eastwood, Kubrick, HItchcock, etc to know its inevitable.

Has he made a shitty flick yet? Nope, not in my truth and reality as I see it.

Unless QT pulls a Rocky Marciano and retires undfeated. ;)

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Gordon
No, no. I'm not talking about his films. I mean his name. He himself. Do people associate his name with Pulp Fiction so they want to see the movie? He makes great movies but his name is used (often times exclusively) WAY too much in marketing.

And I assume you mean Planet Terror? :D . . . right, that.
I wanted to make sure you knew. At least, like, know if the guy talking about Tarantino knows about him, you know? Yeah.

Anyway. Everyone knows his name and if they see it plastered across a movie poster, they go "OMG qt had summat 2 do with this g2g see it!!1"

[boombche_stum]

His name sells because he has not only a built in audience of people who will see almost anything with his name attached (directed by or not).... but because alot of his fans are like me. I love the same type of cinema he does. Period. I've been watching grindhouse, martial arts, spaghetti westerns, horror and exploitation films for years on end... love them. And he's the kind of guy who goes out of his way to ensure a film that he loves gets seen by a larger audience. And I personally will check for if it does come up that loved it, not because I'm a "stan"... but because I figure we have about the same taste in movies.... so why not? What happens from there has little to do with him and more to do with the marketing team, and they aren't dumb, they know he sells.

Personally, I don't get why people are so bothered by the whole "Tarantino presents"... A) Its not his fault really, blame it on the marketing team and B) If it wasn't for him, those movies might have never seen the light of day.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by boombche_stum
His name sells because he has not only a built in audience of people who will see almost anything with his name attached (directed by or not).... but because alot of his fans are like me. I love the same type of cinema he does. Period. I've been watching grindhouse, martial arts, spaghetti westerns, horror and exploitation films for years on end... love them. And he's the kind of guy who goes out of his way to ensure a film that he loves gets seen by a larger audience. And I personally will check for if it does come up that loved it, not because I'm a "stan"... but because I figure we have about the same taste in movies.... so why not? What happens from there has little to do with him and more to do with the marketing team, and they aren't dumb, they know he sells.

Personally, I don't get why people are so bothered by the whole "Tarantino presents"... A) Its not his fault really, blame it on the marketing team and B) If it wasn't for him, those movies might have never seen the light of day.

Oh, I whole heartedly agree with all of that. In fact, although people are so ready to jump on me as another Tarantino basher, I have been putting the blame on the marketing team entirely. The title may have given a different idea then what I was going for. I understand and agree with everythnig you said. I'm curious (not angry) about how did he get this audience and Rodriguez did not get as large of an audience? I am part of both. But what is it about Tarantino that the masses love that other directors have missed out on? I love him, but I love other directors like him too. Why is it that he gets this exclusive fan base that others haven't?

[boombche_stum]

Originally posted by Gordon
Oh, I whole heartedly agree with all of that. In fact, although people are so ready to jump on me as another Tarantino basher, I have been putting the blame on the marketing team entirely. The title may have given a different idea then what I was going for. I understand and agree with everythnig you said. I'm curious (not angry) about how did he get this audience and Rodriguez did not get as large of an audience? I am part of both. But what is it about Tarantino that the masses love that other directors have missed out on? I love him, but I love other directors like him too. Why is it that he gets this exclusive fan base that others haven't?

I wish I knew. I love Rodriguez too. Have since El Mariachi.... so I know what you mean. Personally... I think it has alot to do with A) his writing.... the guy writes some of the best screenplays in Hollywood and is always presenting us with sharp, witty dialogue and complex but likeable and often badass characters.... and B) His personality. He's so eccentric and just a huge nerd and is a pop culture addict (which helps his films in that most have alot of obvious nods to some pop culture material).

Rodriguez.... he's a great director IMO. But his writing has yet to impress me at all (Although the screenplay for Planet Terror is way better than I thought it would be) and he's not out in the spotlight and quirky like Tarantino (at least not as MUCH) AND he has yet to really have that breakout film that defies the rules and redefines many more (ala Pulp Fiction).

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Gordon
I'm curious (not angry) about how did he get this audience and Rodriguez did not get as large of an audience?

Personally, I think Tarantino is LEAGUES ahead of Rodriguez. It's not even close for me. Just take a look at KILL BILL, which was on the other night, to which I severly enjoyed it's entire 4 1/2 hour runtime. Not only does that films visual style dwarf anything Rodriguez has ever touched (Sin City in no way shape or form counts), but any film made in the past three decades, only a handful of films worth even comparing it to. I can't stand Tarantino during interviews, his whole engergizer-bunny-on-crack thing really obnoxious, but the man is one of the most talented filmmakers to ever live, and to argue otherwise is an uphill battle, IMO.

[EZM22]

Originally posted by WebHed
I agree Tarentino get plastered every where just to sell a movie...like all those karate flicks that have been coming out & the ad will say "QUENTIN TARENTINO PRESENTS....BLAH BLAH". meanwhile he has absolutely nothing to do with the flick what so ever...Don't get me wrong he is the man..
<<Favorite movie

but hollywood should try other marketing schemes to sell their respctive projects.

Doesn't Wes Craven do this too?

[Vong]

I've only seen two QT movies in the past; Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs. Both were awesome, but I can't say the same for his new movies (ie. Kill Bill).

It's left to be decided whether or not Grindhouse will be good or not...

[thedudeman69]

What's weird is I haven't seen the Band Apart logo after Reservoir Dogs. I mean, was that Tarantino's production company? Also, I remember in one ad for it, they showcased ALL of the films' titles that they have done, also, Robert's name is not as recognizable as Quentin's, but it's cool. they are both great directors.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Personally, I think Tarantino is LEAGUES ahead of Rodriguez. It's not even close for me. Just take a look at KILL BILL, which was on the other night, to which I severly enjoyed it's entire 4 1/2 hour runtime. Not only does that films visual style dwarf anything Rodriguez has ever touched (Sin City in no way shape or form counts), but any film made in the past three decades, only a handful of films worth even comparing it to.
Why doesn't Sin City count?

[The Postmaster General]

Anyone see Tarantino on Leno last night?

Pete Rose was on and said QT would make coffee nervous then went on to point out him and Leno have the same chin.



Anyway - As mentioned by Craven, what they do w.Tarantino's name isn't unique.

As to why he gets more credit than RR, I think that should be obvious - he is like Nicole Ritchie to QT's Paris Hilton - one is out there more, has a more recognizable name, has done more things and has made more money. That's about all there is to it, I think.

Originally posted by thedudeman69
What's weird is I haven't seen the Band Apart logo after Reservoir Dogs. I mean, was that Tarantino's production company? Also, I remember in one ad for it, they showcased ALL of the films' titles that they have done, also, Robert's name is not as recognizable as Quentin's, but it's cool. they are both great directors.


They had a title card for A Band Apart with Kill Bill, just not the logo.

[docholiday_13]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Personally, I think Tarantino is LEAGUES ahead of Rodriguez. It's not even close for me. Just take a look at KILL BILL, which was on the other night, to which I severly enjoyed it's entire 4 1/2 hour runtime. Not only does that films visual style dwarf anything Rodriguez has ever touched (Sin City in no way shape or form counts), but any film made in the past three decades, only a handful of films worth even comparing it to. I can't stand Tarantino during interviews, his whole engergizer-bunny-on-crack thing really obnoxious, but the man is one of the most talented filmmakers to ever live, and to argue otherwise is an uphill battle, IMO.


I love when people write write exactly what I'm thinking when I read a thread.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Personally, I think Tarantino is LEAGUES ahead of Rodriguez. It's not even close for me. Just take a look at KILL BILL, which was on the other night, to which I severly enjoyed it's entire 4 1/2 hour runtime. Not only does that films visual style dwarf anything Rodriguez has ever touched (Sin City in no way shape or form counts), but any film made in the past three decades, only a handful of films worth even comparing it to. I can't stand Tarantino during interviews, his whole engergizer-bunny-on-crack thing really obnoxious, but the man is one of the most talented filmmakers to ever live, and to argue otherwise is an uphill battle, IMO.

Tarantino is a much better writer. I think as far as visual style goes they both have their own great style.

I'm going to go on the record and say that I think it has to do with the way he was labeled from the beginning. For instance, the original Pulp Fiction trailer, before it was released in theaters, has the narrator say "The new film by Quentin Tarantino." Of course at the time not a lot of people in the general public knew who he was. I've been reading the "Rebel WIthout a Crew" book by Rodriguez which basically mentions what rockstars the two of them were considered when they first made it in because it was the beginning of "do it yourself" filmmaking. But they weren't super famous among the average joe. So my question is this: Did the original Desperado trailers feature "The new film by Robert Rodriguez"? If the answer is no then we have the answer to our question, Tarantino has been having his name slapped on things since before he was really famous.

Does anyone know?

[APzombie]

For the Record, Rose is also in Death Proof. He is the better filmmaker of the two, especially with scripts (even RR thinks so, as an excerpt of his script says "he says a great monolouge ala Quint from Jaws, to be written by Tarantino), so he'll be the primary add.

[bob]

I think this problem is going to be solved when the following series of events occurs on April 6th:

1. People flock to see Grindhouse
2. Planet Terror is quite simply WAY better than Death Proof
3. People spend the next eight years attempting to perform oral sex on Quentin Tarantino for halfway giving Robert Rodriguez the idea to make Planet Terror.
4. Quentin Tarantino goes into seclusion after house is destroyed by ravenous fans trying to perform oral sex on him.
5. Robert Rodriguez makes Sin City 2 and 3, with Quentin Tarantino's name nowhere near the film, and becomes the new God of pulpy, violent mainstream films.

Seriously though, they're both great directors, I think Quentin gets a lot of the credit because his personality is more well-known, as well as all of his bizarre quirks and that voice, that voice that permeates throughout all of his films. I mean, if you see a Tarantino film you know it, whereas watching Spy Kids and Dusk til Dawn back to back would not give you the same sensation.

That being said, I think Rodriguez may very well be a more gifted director, but as far as writing goes it's obviously QT's forte.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by bob
Seriously though, they're both great directors, I think Quentin gets a lot of the credit because his personality is more well-known, as well as all of his bizarre quirks and that voice, that voice that permeates throughout all of his films. I mean, if you see a Tarantino film you know it, whereas watching Spy Kids and Dusk til Dawn back to back would not give you the same sensation.

That being said, I think Rodriguez may very well be a more gifted director, but as far as writing goes it's obviously QT's forte.

Hmm. If anyone ever asks me my opinion on the two of them I'm just going to go ahead and quote this.

[Cyd V]

Robert a better director then Tarantino? What?! That is just plain stupid nonsence, anyone who thinks that has not seen a Tarantino flick in the theater... I respect Robert, but I have never been impressed with anything he has done cinematic wise...

[WebHed]

Originally posted by EZM22
Doesn't Wes Craven do this too?


Yeah I believe he does do that too..haaaaa

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
They had a title card for A Band Apart with Kill Bill, just not the logo.

Oh, I guess I wasn't paying attention, then.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by Cyd V
Robert a better director then Tarantino? What?! That is just plain stupid nonsence, anyone who thinks that has not seen a Tarantino flick in the theater... I respect Robert, but I have never been impressed with anything he has done cinematic wise...

I've seen every QT movie, save for Jackie Brown. I've seen many RR movies as well.

Rodriguez is easly a better filmmaker, hands down. Tarantino's movies are nothing without clever editing and silly acting/dialogue. He has to go comepletely over the top or else he'd be mediocre. Where as Robert Rodriguez has actually tackled just about every genre you can with finesse and is clearly an expert at what he does.

He's also cranked out a much more impressive body of work. He has ten times the work ethic than Tarantino.

[Gordon]

I'm sorry this turned into a Tarantino vs. Rodriguez discussion. I didn't mean it to.

[bob]

Also, RR is dating Rose McGowan? That's a definite upgrade over...whoever his wife was....I assume.

The lesson here is that we should all leave our wives for hot b-list actresses.

[Tagia_Romero]

I'm not obsessed with what he does professionally or personally, and though I do enjoy his films, there are film makers out there who have a humungous talent and they let it show mainly through originality *though let's face it, what IS original these days?*. I am very willing to see "Grindhouse", though my opinion of him as a film maker won't ascend overnight. He has made it very obvious at this stage of his career that he's making 'fun' movies to please himself and the willing audiences are in the passenger seats.

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by bob

The lesson here is that we should all leave our wives for hot b-list actresses.

And here's an addition to that lesson; don't be surprised if your wife/signifcant other takes up with a better looking, better-endowed man, becomes manager of an assassination organisation and sends the best torturers money can buy to pursue you and your b-list honey bunny. :D :p When the said torturers castrate you in the most painful fashion imaginable and when the b-list honey bunny is robbed of her tits and ass, your ex-wife/significant other will then commence to make voracious love to her new, virile partner right in front of you.

[bob]

Originally posted by Tagia_Romero
When the said torturers castrate you in the most painful fashion imaginable

WITH A BADGER?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by bob
WITH A BADGER?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Yep. Or a wolverine. Piranahs... :p The list could be endless. :D

[Rick-James]

I don't like this whole RR vs. QT thing. I like both of these guys, but come on... It's not even close.



TRUE ROMANCE (Script)
NATRUAL BORN KILLERS (Script)
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN (Script)
RESERVOIR DOGS
PULP FICTION
JACKIE BROWN
KILL BILL

vs.

EL MARIACHI
DESPERADO
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN
THE FACULTY
SPY KIDS
SPY KIDS 2
SPY KIDS 3
ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO
SIN CITY
THE ADVENTURES OF SHARKBOY & LAVAGIRL

Other than Sin City and From Dusk Till Dawn(which is only good because of QT's script) I'm not a fan of RR's films. QT is better...far better!

[The Postmaster General]

This is worse than when mom and dad used to fight!!!!

[bob]

Originally posted by Rick-James
I don't like this whole RR vs. QT thing. I like both of these guys, but come on... It's not even close.



TRUE ROMANCE (Script)
NATRUAL BORN KILLERS (Script)
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN (Script)
RESERVOIR DOGS
PULP FICTION
JACKIE BROWN
KILL BILL

vs.

EL MARIACHI
DESPERADO
FROM DUSK TILL DAWN
THE FACULTY
SPY KIDS
SPY KIDS 2
SPY KIDS 3
ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO
SIN CITY
THE ADVENTURES OF SHARKBOY & LAVAGIRL

Other than Sin City and From Dusk Till Dawn(which is only good because of QT's script) I'm not a fan of RR's films. QT is better...far better!

But since the argument is about their capabilities as a director, you can't factor in movies QT didn't direct. No one has said yet that they think Robert Rodriguez is a better writer....he's not. But as far as directorial style goes, I fail to see what's better about QT's four films than Robert Rodriguez'.

[Cyd V]

Originally posted by bob
But since the argument is about their capabilities as a director, you can't factor in movies QT didn't direct. No one has said yet that they think Robert Rodriguez is a better writer....he's not. But as far as directorial style goes, I fail to see what's better about QT's four films than Robert Rodriguez'.

What's better? Overall visuals, camera angles, movements are far superior, he gets better performances, the edititng is far better, lighting, shot compositions, etc etc... Tarantino puts more time into each shot and it shows, Rod likes to rush and set speed records on the set and that shows also.... If filmmaking was a race then he'd be the second greatest filmmaker of all time behind Roger Corman...