Kurt Russell - Tombstone Comments

[Funnyman]

I read recently that Kurt Russell has been saying things about Tombstone along with the Escape remake. I was wondering if anyone had heard what he was saying about Tombstone.

[MadsenOMC]

I read something recently where Russell talked about how he had really directed Tombstone, not George P. Costamos, but he didn't take credit for it out of respect for Costamos. I can't remember if it was because of health reasons or why exactly Russell ended up doing almost all of the work.

[EVILxxx]

That wouldn't surprise me. Tombstone is a hell of a movie and Cosmatos has a very unimpressive resume.

[jolanar]

I'll be your huckleberry.
:cool:

[Tuukka]

I know that a lot of schmoes really like Tombstone, but I thought it was a badly directed movie with admittedly good performances. I can give the director credit for handling actors, but as a piece of storytelling I thought it was clumsy and amateurish.

If there were troubles like that during production, then no wonder.

[RustyRazor]

I heard him on the "Opie & Anthony Show" promoting "Grindhouse" and they asked him about the Escape From N.Y. remake. He responded by saying the studios have ideas for redoing movies like this and he didn't object to it.

Very smart response.
You don't bite the hand that feeds you.
I'm sure, off the record, he might have a different response.

And yes, I liked Tombstone.
It wasn't a four star movie, but not being a big Val Kilmer fan, I thought his performance as Doc Holiday was the best he'd ever done and Kurt Russell was an excellent Wyatt Earp.

[EBastard]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
Cosmatos has a very unimpressive resume.

Originally posted by Tuukka
I know that a lot of schmoes really like Tombstone, but I thought it was a badly directed movie with admittedly good performances. I can give the director credit for handling actors, but as a piece of storytelling I thought it was clumsy and amateurish.

If there were troubles like that during production, then no wonder.
"I got two guns *spins revolvers*...one for each of ya."



SHIVER ME TIMBERS...

LAST GREAT WESTERN BESIDES UNFORGIVEN. BOTH GET A 9/10 FROM ME.

[chasingbanky]

Originally posted by jolanar
I'll be your huckleberry.
:cool:

I believe it is "I'm your huckleberry," and apparently they wanted Willem Dafoe to be Doc but the studio made Val the choice, and also they tried to make Richard Gere Wyatt and Kurt Doc but Kurt shut that weak shit down. He also said the guy who originally wrote the script and was the director was making The Godfather of Westerns and that Kurt still has all the footage ever shot for the movie and one day he might edit it the way it should be.... but he "Has a life," so he hasn't yet.


PS: Any movie that involves that characters having infinite bullets and isn't directed by John Woo isn't all that great.

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by RustyRazor


And yes, I liked Tombstone.
It wasn't a four star movie, but not being a big Val Kilmer fan, I thought his performance as Doc Holiday was the best he'd ever done and Kurt Russell was an excellent Wyatt Earp.

It's a stellar movie overall I find, and I say that disregarding my crush on Kilmer. That's saying something. I don't know what, but it's something. :p

[Shockwave]

I love it simply for the Doc Holiday performance.

Easily Kilmers best, in my opinion.

[EVILxxx]

I found this at Wiki.

Filming was plagued with several problems. According to Henry Cabot Beck's article, "The 'Western' Godfather" in True West magazine, early in the production screenwriter Jarre was fired as director and replaced by George P. Cosmatos. One reason cited for his dismissal was that he refused to cut down the length of his screenplay. Sylvester Stallone recommended Cosmatos to Kurt Russell based on the work he did on Rambo: First Blood Part II. According to Russell, in Beck's article, the actor made an agreement with Cosmatos that he would ghost direct the movie. Every night, Russell would give Cosmatos a shot list for the next day.

Both Russell and Kilmer have said that the screenplay was too long (Russell estimated by 20 pages). According to Kilmer, "virtually every main character, every cowboy, for example, had a subplot and a story told, and none of them are left in the film." He has said that over 100 people, cast and crew, either quit or were fired over the course of the production. Russell even went so far as to cut down his scenes in order to let other actors have more screen time.

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
Russell even went so far as to cut down his scenes in order to let other actors have more screen time.



What a fucking asshole!!!



J/K :D

[jeo4]

The more I find out about Kurt Russell, the more I think he's a kick ass human being. Looking forward to Grindhouse for his performance alone, even if not for everything else.

[Lazy Boy]

I've always thought Russell was one of the more underrated journeymen in recent films -- he's put in a lot of good, solid performances in films (Vanilla Sky is one of his last good ones before "Stuntman" Mike came along).

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by jeo4
The more I find out about Kurt Russell, the more I think he's a kick ass human being. Looking forward to Grindhouse for his performance alone, even if not for everything else.

Russell is the only thing making me look forward to DEATH PROOF. (I thouth the previews didnt really sell it that great, but i really want to see whats written for his character!)

[Mentiroso]

"Fuck that....I am THE DIRECTOR!"

[bigred760]

Cosmatos did a commentary for the movie, so for now, I'll stick with him as the director is concerned. He is the credited director, may he rest in peace.

[Badbird]

Originally posted by bigred760
Cosmatos did a commentary for the movie, so for now, I'll stick with him as the director is concerned. He is the credited director, may he rest in peace.

Yeah, this sounds blown out of proportion. Has Russel every directed anything before?

Rambo II was pretty impressive, so clearly Cosmatos has tallent.

Tombstone was a pretty good movie, but Wyatt Earp was better.

Kevin Coster > Kurt Russel

Val Kilmer > Dennis Quade

[EVILxxx]

Kevin Coster > Kurt Russel

The power of Christ compels you!

[JJFlamingo]

Originally posted by bigred760
Cosmatos did a commentary for the movie, so for now, I'll stick with him as the director is concerned. He is the credited director, may he rest in peace.

Cosmatos is dead?? :confused:

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by JJFlamingo
Cosmatos is dead?? :confused:


I think he died a couple of years ago.

[Lazy Boy]

Originally posted by JJFlamingo
Cosmatos is dead?? :confused:

Died two years ago, of lung cancer.

[horsehead]

Does anyone else think that it's a bit easy for Russell to say that now that Cosmatos is dead & can't defend himself. Not saying that he's a liar, but nobody is backing him up either:(

[Badbird]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
The power of Christ compels you!

I meant "as Wyatt Earp, Costner > Russell"

[EVILxxx]

I know but still.
I admit I haven't really given Wyatt Earp the benefit of the doubt. Every time it was on tv I couldn't watch it for more than 20 minutes.
Every time Tombstone is on I'm glued to the set. Russel has a knack for completely become his role.
I think I've only seen Costner play two different kinds of people. Maybe I'll give Costner's film a serious watch one of these days.

[therealjohng]

I personally think that Russell is the better Earp, but Wyatt Earp is the better movie.