How about an Ann Coulter column?

[Lynn7]

She is commenting on the concealed weapon laws and how they might prevent killings like the one at V-Tech:

Column (http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi)

I think it might be a good idea. Maybe there should be better communication for gun checks though from the psych community and the courts.

[EVILxxx]

While I don't think the concept is something that should be jumped into right away, I can say that had I been at VT with my sidearm, in the vicinity of Cho; there is a good chance fewer people would have died.

[Thrizzle]

The Problem: Too many guns.
The Solution: More guns.

America, F*ck Yea!!

[EVILxxx]

The problem isn't the number of guns, it's certain people who posses them.

[BubbaStrangelove]

I don't remember if you were against screening laws or not.

[Thrizzle]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
The problem isn't the number of guns, it's certain people who posses them.

Yes this is true, i just cant resist making fun of our gun culture.

In all seriousness, a large part of the problem is who we're giving guns to. Adequate/more thorough backround checks would be a big help.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I don't remember if you were against screening laws or not.

I think screening laws are essential. Criminal history, mental incompetence are things that I believe are grounds to deny someone the right to carry. Believe me there are a number of ways to get denied a concealed weapons permit, and more are denied than are issued.
On a personal note, even if I had a concealed weapons permit I wouldn't see the need to carry one on me anyways unless I was on my way to the range. I'm not a gun nut that goes around and throws the second amendment in people's face. I'm just a guy who likes to shoot guns and enjoys hunting.

[BubbaStrangelove]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
I think screening laws are essential. Criminal history, mental incompetence are things that I believe are grounds to deny someone the right to carry. Believe me there are a number of ways to get denied a concealed weapons permit, and more are denied than are issued.
On a personal note, even if I had a concealed weapons permit I wouldn't see the need to carry one on me anyways unless I was on my way to the range. I'm not a gun nut that goes around and throws the second amendment in people's face. I'm just a guy who likes to shoot guns and enjoys hunting.



Yeah, I like guns too. Are you sure about that more-people-denied-than-approved thing?

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
Yeah, I like guns too. Are you sure about that more-people-denied-than-approved thing?

It's been my experience but I don't have any statistics to back it up. Suffice to say they aren't handed out willy nilly.

[QUENTIN]

Aside from the fact that John Lott has almost no credibility, she lost me when she said, just in passing, that Ralph Nader should be in jail.

What the fuck? On what charge, making every American citizen safer or trying to maintain democracy and combat the move towards oligarchy?

[EVILxxx]

I don't think she was completely serious.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

It seems to be a problem with no solution. If everyone has guns, then it will only make it a million times easier to shoot up your classmates. On the other hand, it could very well put the fear of God in some people, especially potential killers.

[Lynn7]

Someone suggested that perhaps there could be people with guns in colleges like the way the airmarshalls are used on airplanes. You never know which class or building has the "marshall" so to speak. Some said that for instance, there were military people that are educated on campus and maybe they could be carriers (after screening etc). Maybe some responsible adults who are willing to do it. No one would have to know who is carrying or if any is -just the thought that someone might be might be a deterrent. It is just so frustrating to see people gunned down without any defense.

[BubbaStrangelove]

I have absolutely no problem with armed security on campuses, public & private.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
It seems to be a problem with no solution. If everyone has guns, then it will only make it a million times easier to shoot up your classmates. On the other hand, it could very well put the fear of God in some people, especially potential killers.

Not everyone, just those who wish to carry and have been properly screened and trained.

[Jamesadin]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I have absolutely no problem with armed security on campuses, public & private.

However, I DO have a problem with Ann Coulter.

[Vong]

Originally posted by BubbaStrangelove
I have absolutely no problem with armed security on campuses, public & private.

Try saying that when you are a student in what feels more like a prison than a school...

[Criminal Rock]

Originally posted by Vong
Try saying that when you are a student in what feels more like a prison than a school...

I'd rather feel like i'm in a prison over, you know... being dead...

[Vong]

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
I'd rather feel like i'm in a prison over, you know... being dead...

Paranoia isn't healthy for a student...especially when they have shit of their own to deal with.

Judging by how many school shootings there are, compared to any other hazard in life that can kill you, you have a far greater chance of dying from any natural disaster before you get killed in a school shooting. People still fly in planes despite the fact that accidents happen and planes will/can crash. These are isolated incidents that shouldn't affect people from their day to day lives. And flying is still the safest way to travel. The school is the safest place to be for a student, but there are cases where shit can happen. Does that mean we stop going to school or make the school into a local prison? No. You think rationally and say to yourself this is one incident where a maniac cames to this school and where the chances of it ever happening again are slim....then again, with the gun laws that the US has now, it is hard to know when another crazed psycho-path will buy a gun at an ice-cream parlor and shoot his peers...

You know what, maybe the US should turn their schools into prisons. You deserve it anyway for having fucked up gun laws. I guess beefing up security will keep all those gun-nuts in check and scare the shit out of everyone else. But who cares right? It's safe...

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by Vong
You know what, maybe the US should turn their schools into prisons. You deserve it anyway for having fucked up gun laws.


To say it's the entire U.S. is totally inaccurate. The state of Virginia's gun laws did not require a five day waiting period, which if you ask me is inexcusable and complete fucking bullshit. There's no excuse to not have a waiting period.

Instead of making it a bunch anti-U.S. bullshit, just admit that we're a divided country over the issue. The last time I checked Canada has a conservative prime minister, so get off your high horse.

[Thrizzle]

Ann Coulter is a witch.

[Criminal Rock]

Originally posted by Vong
Paranoia isn't healthy for a student...especially when they have shit of their own to deal with.

Judging by how many school shootings there are, compared to any other hazard in life that can kill you, you have a far greater chance of dying from any natural disaster before you get killed in a school shooting. People still fly in planes despite the fact that accidents happen and planes will/can crash. These are isolated incidents that shouldn't affect people from their day to day lives. And flying is still the safest way to travel. The school is the safest place to be for a student, but there are cases where shit can happen. Does that mean we stop going to school or make the school into a local prison? No. You think rationally and say to yourself this is one incident where a maniac cames to this school and where the chances of it ever happening again are slim....then again, with the gun laws that the US has now, it is hard to know when another crazed psycho-path will buy a gun at an ice-cream parlor and shoot his peers...

You know what, maybe the US should turn their schools into prisons. You deserve it anyway for having fucked up gun laws. I guess beefing up security will keep all those gun-nuts in check and scare the shit out of everyone else. But who cares right? It's safe...

You're looking way too far into this vong... i simply made a point that life is more valuable then what most people give credit for. that’s basically as far as I went... but if you want to overanalyze this to death, be my guest.

All I know is if the government permitted to use of guns to police officers at school, it would, more likely than not, deter would-be gun assailants and criminals from bringing their own problems on campus. I don’t get what’s so incredibly wrong with wanting that. And yes, we understand that there are more dangerous places and situations this world can offer, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore potential threats for the sake of politics... Schools shouldn’t be treated as an exemption, not for any reason.

Just like everything else, it’s a matter of priorities: we live in a world where it is necessary for a cop to carry a gun in order to ensure his and our safety, wherever he/she may be... but until the entire fucking planet throws away their weapons, and everybody gets along, this is just something we’re all going to have to fucking deal with.

[BubbaStrangelove]

Originally posted by Vong
Try saying that when you are a student in what feels more like a prison than a school...


The presence of armed guards at a bank doesn't present the feeling of being in a prison. I attended the NYC New Years festivities in 2002, among the presence of military with automatic weapons - people from all around the world attended and no one screamed for a lawyer or even seemed to have a bad time.

I guess what you can handle is just what you're used to. Seeing someone clubbing a baby seal to death would probably make me uncomfortable.

[JohnTheHenchman]

I would feel so much safer if I was able to carry a concealed weapon.

But that's me.

I still can't believe how this lunatic wasn't stopped after the first 10. Jesus.