Official Live Free Or Die Hard Anticipation Thread!

[gyro_44]

Yes, that's right, I'm OFFICIALLY anticipating this now.

Die Hard was the first R-rated movie I saw, and I've been a major fan of this series ever since. Can Bruce and this Len Wiseman guy bring it home? I sure hope so.

Here's a brief interview with Bruce, which is at a Nets game and is hilarious for a few reasons. One: Bruce is obviously drunk as a skunk. Two: the dude calls him BRUCE WILSON. And three: Bruce happily exclaims "Yippee Kay Yay Motherfucker" at the end, much to the chagrin of the network folks... haha. (He also says that this Die Hard is better than the original. But people say a lot of stuff when they're drunk, don't they?). Enjoy.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaKAQLexVE


http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/trailer/10012886/trailer_04.jpg

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/trailer/10012886/trailer_17.jpg

[JackassFan]

I can't wait. My second most anticipated film of the year.

The trailer just blew me away. From the clips I've seen, there's no way this movie can fail to rock.

[Cronos]

one of my most anticipated films of the year, i love all 3 previous Die Hard films and from the trailers this looks like it won't disappoint

[DrJellyfingers]

I saw the first three in the theater. no reason to stop now. I'll be there.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by gyro_44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaKAQLexVE
And seriously guys, check out this clip for drunken swearing Bruce. Pretty funny.

[MidnightAngel]

Originally posted by gyro_44



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDaKAQLexVE



Ooops! He said the m-word on live tv!

[pablo_super1!]

I loved the trailer and can't wait for this movie

[yorrick brown]

this is some stuff they had on imdb news.

'Die Hard' Buzz Hard To Believe


Suggesting that it is sometimes difficult to sort the buzz from the hype, the Hollywood Reporter was being castigated by numerous film-related websites Monday for a report suggesting that the upcoming Live Free or Die Hard could be "the sleeper hit of the season." The trade publication cited research by Nielsen BuzzMetrics, which measures Internet discussions of upcoming films, noting that the film had received nearly twice as many mentions on blogs as Spider-Man 3 and dwarfed those for Shrek the Third and the latest Pirates of the Caribbean sequel. On Monday, however, several blogs noted, that much of the buzz about the June 27 release of Live Free or Die Hard was negative and that other blogs suggested that the Pirates sequel is the most anticipated movie of the summer. Movie buzz reports have been notoriously dicey this year, particularly in the recent case of Grindhouse, the Quentin Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez film that produced a ton of Internet chatter but tanked at the box office. None of that has discouraged the Nielsen company, which announced today (Tuesday) that it is acquiring the 42 percent of BuzzMetrics that it does not already own (for a reported $100 million) and plans to combine the company with Nielsen-NetRatings. Nielsen also owns the Hollywood Reporter

Veteran star Bruce Willis is relieved he filmed the upcoming Die Hard sequel before he got any older, because he fears his body soon won't be able to take the physical demands of the role. The 52-year-old, who returns as police officer John McClane for a fourth time in Live Free Or Die Hard, admits he is no longer as nimble as he was when he made the first Die Hard movie in 1988. He tells magazine Vanity Fair, "A lot of the physical stuff they had me doing was still, let's say, low-tech. I don't bounce as well off the concrete floors as I used to... I'm glad I didn't wait a couple more years to do this."


oh and heres a drunk willis been interview lol cool guy
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1756795/ls:466

[cerealkiller182]

I'm excited to see John McClane on the big screen. I have yet to see that.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by yorrick brown
oh and heres a drunk willis been interview lol cool guy
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1756795/ls:466
Already been posted. Check up above you.

[FilmCritic3000]

Brace yourselves, folks...it looks like 20th Century Fox is going to water down the movie by cutting it so that it'll get a PG-13!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32511

John McClane saying, "Yippee-kay-yay, mother falcon"? Is that what they're proposing? :rolleyes: I hate the president of 20th Century Fox, Tom Rothman, whose idea this no doubt is. His stupid ass is the reason that X-Men: The Last Stand (he hates X-Men) and Alien Vs. Predator exist. He's a know-nothing jackass and the day he is no longer employed there, I will have a big party.

I sincerely hope that this truncating of Live Free Or Die Hard doesn't happen

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by FilmCritic3000
Brace yourselves, folks...it looks like 20th Century Fox is going to water down the movie by cutting it so that it'll get a PG-13!

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32511

John McClane saying, "Yippee-kay-yay, mother falcon"? Is that what they're proposing? :rolleyes: I hate the president of 20th Century Fox, Tom Rothman, whose idea this no doubt is. His stupid ass is the reason that X-Men: The Last Stand (he hates X-Men) and Alien Vs. Predator exist. He's a know-nothing jackass and the day he is no longer employed there, I will have a big party.

I sincerely hope that this truncating of Live Free Or Die Hard doesn't happen
Oh my God no.

If they turn this into PG-13, I will be nothing short of pissed off. And appalled. Coming from a franchise where all three films thus far were a HARD R-rating, and from a director whose two Underworld movies were R-rated... this is complete bullshit.

If it's true, fuck you Fox.

[Worthystevens]

Did Fox not learn from 300 that an R-rated flick can make decent dough if marketed right?

That's all you need to do, Fox. It's fucking Die Hard for Christ's sake.

Advertise it, and they will come. No need to water it down to, ugh, PG-13.

[MadsenOMC]

I know that I mentioned this as a possibility a while ago, and I think others did as well. Didn't all three make a whole lot of $? Studios never seem to remember that PG-13 doesn't automatically mean financial success just like R doesn't automatically mean financial failure. What a joke. I will not pay to see this if it's PG-13. I don't think it looks all that great anyway, so if it's not R there's little incentive.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Worthystevens
Did Fox not learn from 300 that an R-rated flick can make decent dough if marketed right?
Good fucking point man. We have a $200 million grossing R-rated film released THIS YEAR, selling the same shit as Die Hard: stylized action and violence (although of course 300 is more stylized). Where's the faith, Fox?

If this news comes to fruition, I will probably still see the movie, but it will be hard not to watch it through gritted teeth. I assume there are enough creative issues to worry about when carrying a franchise into the fourth outing, but these guys risk turning badass cool motherfucker John McClane (and the entire movie) SOFT with a PG-13?? They have officially screwed themselves if it's true. There is no way around it my mind.

20th Century Fox, you're on notice.

[DaveyJoeG]

If it's PG-13 I won't even bother.

[MisterTwister]

I loved the trailer and all but if its going to be toned down for a PG-13, then I won't bother seeing it in theatres and I hope others do the same.

[Worthystevens]

This probably won't do much, but everyone against this debacle should sign anyway. It can't hurt to try:

http://www.petitiononline.com/lfodh/petition.html

[Mr.HyDe807]

God dammit, i was looking foward to this too! Fuck you FOX!

[Backstabba]

Ok, this is my MOST ANTICIPATED MOVIE of the SUMMER.

PG-13?
Are you kidding me?

It's like if they made a PG rated Friday the 13th movie, it makes no sense! John McClane is a goddamn R-rated guy!

I'll still see it, but I'll buy a ticket for another movie. I'm really hoping this is a joke, because if it isn't, it's complete bullshit.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Worthystevens
This probably won't do much, but everyone against this debacle should sign anyway. It can't hurt to try:

http://www.petitiononline.com/lfodh/petition.html
Thanks for that. I'm not usually a petition-signing type of guy but in case, I'll make an exception. Perhaps our words will reach the ears of someone rational at Fox. Or does that person exist?

I would think Bruce has some creative control here, and I can't believe both the film's star and director will sit back while the studio guts their movie.

Man... this is quickly turning into the OFFICIAL NOT ANTICIPATING DIE HARD THREAD. If this turns PG-13 guys, I don't know if I can muster much more anticipation.

[Tony_Montana]

Still not rated by the MPAA, there is still hope.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Tony_Montana
Still not rated by the MPAA, there is still hope.
Indeed.

[FLAME_ON]

Just the very idea that it might be PG-13 has made my anticipation for this drop from a solid 10 to about a 5... This is Die Hard… the script alone should have enough f-bombs to leave no room for doubt. That is just so disappointing and offensive to the fans... the Die Hard franchise is rough, tough, and in your face with “strong violence and strong language"! That’s what I expect... THAT’S WHAT I WANT!

This is all Justin Long's fault...:mad:

[APzombie]

If its not R i'm not seeing or even renting it, and i'll protest the title and demand they change it to "Live Free or Die not too hard,but hard enough for it to really hurt".

[daddiefatsacks]

how can they make this pg-13? even if its R it's already been filmed, it's not like they can add in a few F-bombs here and there, and some blood splatter....what the fuck?!?!

i cannot believe i'm hearing this

[mutesaint]

Originally posted by FLAME_ON
Just the very idea that it might be PG-13 has made my anticipation for this drop from a solid 10 to about a 5... This is Die Hard… the script alone should have enough f-bombs to leave no room for doubt. That is just so disappointing and offensive to the fans... the Die Hard franchise is rough, tough, and in your face with “strong violence and strong language"! That’s what I expect... THAT’S WHAT I WANT!


I agree with everything except the bit about Justin Long. I like him and as far as sidekicks go Im glad its him and not someone else. I will say this. IF this movie is rated pg13 I will not see it. I will not even rent it on dvd unless its the r rated version. I will fucking download it. Yup. I will illegally bootleg the movie and tell all of my friends to do the same. I know that my small circle wont do shit to the take in that they get from this movie. Fox will have officially lost all credibility with every aspect of their company. If this is true, you will be hardpressed to get me into the seat of any fox movie as long as Tom Rothman remains at its head. There just comes a time when you gotta stand behind something and by god, for me, its a r rated Die Hard.

[MadsenOMC]

I think Long is sometimes funny, sometimes annoying. However, I don't think Willis needs a damn sidekick when he is playing John McClane. I'd rather there wasn't one to begin with in this flick.

[Danger^Cart]

Rothman is such a moron. He has no absolutely no place running Fox. Whatever credentials he has are no doubt forged. That's the only possible explanation. More so, he doesn't fucking learn. Even a dog will stop pissing on the rug if you smack it enough.

He pulled shit just like this with Kingdom of Heaven. Everyone loved the original cut, but he scoffed at the long runtime, and had it severly ass-raped in the editing room. As such, a highly anticipated film opened to lukewarm reception and only grossed around $211 million worldwide. He single handedly ruined the films theatrical run, a fact cemented by the critical and commercial praise of the Directors Cut.

Science could learn a lot from a man this stupid.

[FLAME_ON]

Originally posted by mutesaint
I agree with everything except the bit about Justin Long.

Oh he's fine, I don't have a problem with him either, I just don't think he needs to be in this movie... I just had to take a potshot at somebody. :rolleyes: Probably should be blaming Fox.

[shawn-o]

THIS GETTING A PG-13 RATING?? FUCK THIS SHIT!!!

[Terror Australis]

Originally posted by FilmCritic3000
Brace yourselves, folks...it looks like 20th Century Fox is going to water down the movie by cutting it so that it'll get a PG-13!

http://uweb.txstate.edu/~rw04/intro/Evolution/images/homer-scream.jpg

AAAHHH!!!

[Kevin Smith fan]

Yeah, so my anticipation plummeted upon the PG-13 rumours. How can McClane shout "Yippie Kay-Yay Mother Fucker" or stab a snow mobiling terrorist in the eye with an ice cicle if he's held to a PG-13? Seriously, a PG-13 Die Hard is like watching Scarface edited for TV. There's just something missing.

[Hatfield]

Big thumbs down on the "PG-13" news.

Will I still see it? Yeah.

I know it's a Die Hard movie and all, but maybe (just maybe) there will a good enough plot to keep it interesting...

[RandalGraves]

This is some of the worst news I've heard since the demise of the Halo flick...urgh, this is not going to be a true Die Hard movie if it's pg-13...I'll prolly still see it, but I really don't want to support a pg-13 die hard movie. The best part of the movies is the over the top dialouge and action...and that will surely be cut down quite a bit. That famous dialouge is John Mclane!

[Spidey]

Can you imagine Samuel L Jackson going through Die Hard With a Vengeance without saying the word 'fuck' ? Hell no !
They're pulling a Terminator 3 on us with this one.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Spidey
Can you imagine Samuel L Jackson going through Die Hard With a Vengeance without saying the word 'fuck' ? Hell no !
They're pulling a Terminator 3 on us with this one.
At least Terminator 3 was Rated R. And I thought it was pretty good.

So, this is much worse.

[DrJellyfingers]

The fact that they are even considering this is disgraceful. i heard these rumors months ago but they always seemed to be dismissed. i will not see it in the theater if it's PG-13.
watering down sequels never works. Be Cool was a mockery of Get Shorty.

[ElderPredator]

Fox had better fix that rating and fucking quick!

I'm glad that Bruce expressed his outrage as well which means that he totally wants to blow us away with this movie.

Will somebody please explain to me as to what the fuck is wrong with Tom Rothman? The guy is mentally fucking retarded. First he fucks us over with AVP and now he's doing it again with Die Hard. The man should be thrown out of a 20 story building.

Don't these guys every look at the Internet boards to see our anguish?

[JackassFan]

That rating crap fucking sucks. They better sort that out.

[Double-Oh-Zero]

If it's going to be rated PG-13, I won't even bother with the damn thing.

Shame; I was really pumped to see this after the second trailer was released. Jesus, it'd be like a PG-13 Alien or Pred--

Oh. Right.

[Boner X-Ray]

Fuck this. I'm done with movies. Goodbye Joblo forums.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Double-Oh-Zero
If it's going to be rated PG-13, I won't even bother with the damn thing.

I'm seriously considering it. This is utterly fucking ridiculous. It's a freakin' Die Hard movie; how the hell can it be PG-13?!?! I am depressed over this news, seriously depressed. If it is PG-13, I might just wait and hope for a DVD release that is R-rated or "unrated."

This is one of the dumbest, fucking most absurd thing I've ever heard a studio do.

[CuatroDiablos]

I will Download this movie and sell it to everyone I know so they won't have to goto the movies and see this debacle.

[Tuukka]

While I would definitely prefer to see an R-rating, I will still absolutely see this film, because it looks like a lot of fun.

The thing is, Die Hard movies have never been THAT violent in the first place. Sure, there has been blood and even a bit of gore, but the films haven't been overly violent. And I dont' really care for the amount of fuck's either way, althought I would like to hear the classic line.

PG-13 rated movies can have pretty intense physical action, as proven recently by Casino Royale and Bourne movies.

They will probably release the R-rated version on DVD.

Yeah, the decision sucks ass and is rather unnecessary because the main audience base for this film is adults anyway. But I will see it in theatres unless the reviews are dreadful.

[Worthystevens]

If it is PG-13, I'm not seeing it. Won't care one bit. Not just because it's Die Hard, but I'm tired of movies losing quality just so that the studios can make the most dime that they can. It's bullshit.

Fuck off Tom Rothman.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Tuukka
The thing is, Die Hard movies have never been THAT violent in the first place. Sure, there has been blood and even a bit of gore, but the films haven't been overly violent. And I dont' really care for the amount of fuck's either way, althought I would like to hear the classic line.


Really? I haven't watched the first two from start to finish in a long time, but I seem to remember a hell of a lot of shooting in them, and some pretty serious violence throughout.

[CuatroDiablos]

Yeah and MCclane spurting bad word left and right.

[gyro_44]

I think all three Die Hard movies so far have been extremely violent. There's lots of bloody shoot-em-up violence, and even gory moments (ice pick to the eyeball in Die Hard 2 anyone?). And there must be at least 100 or 200 uses of the word fuck per movie.

If it's PG-13, we'll be getting 1/500th of the swearing and violence.I just believe this will soften the movie up to a degree where it might be unrecognizable as a Die Hard movie.

[Danger^Cart]

Yeah, the last three movies were extremely violent. Not sure how you can argue otherwise. The squibs and splatter effects were sensational, and now with this watered down POS, we're going to have dudes falling down to phantom bullets.

Seriously, fuck Tom Rothman. FUCK HIM IN THE EYE!

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Really? I haven't watched the first two from start to finish in a long time, but I seem to remember a hell of a lot of shooting in them, and some pretty serious violence throughout.
Yeah, Tagaki's brains hitting the door is one of the goriest shootings I can remember.

[Tuukka]

Well, it's been a while so I probably just don't remember all the violence. The only particularly violent moment I can remember from the earlier films is the icicle to the eye from DH2.

[Kevin Lockard]

The elevator scene in Die Hard With A Vengeance might qualify as well.

[ilovemovies]

Actually, Die Hard With a Vengeance wasn't THAT violent although it was still violent enough for a solid R rating.

But the first two were DEFINITELY hardcore R rated movies. Jesus, don't you remember the scene when McClane stabs the one bad guy in the eye with that big piece of ice? Or one of the bad guys slits someone's throat. And the final showdown between McClane and one of the bad guys on top of the airplane and he ends up getting killed being sucked into the propeller.


And in the first one is very bloody too. Like the big shootout when McClane is barefoot and he's in the bathroom and there is a lot of blood.


The first two movies are EXTREMELY violent and quite bloody.


So I'm EXTREMELY disappointed if the movie is PG-13. Infact, I'm quite angry about it. But I'll still see it. As deeply let down by this news as I am, I'm still hoping for a kickass ride. But FOX has just gutted me with this news. :(

[ElderPredator]

"Die Hard 2: Die Harder" was definitely the most violent and it was the best of all three in my opinion. I still think that this is just a rumour and that it actually will be rated R. The guys at Fox can't be that fucking retarded.

[therealjohng]

With a Vengeance is still a pretty violent movie. McClane was covered in blood pretty much throughout. Throats slit, a guy getting cut in half by wire. Not to mention the shoot outs and tons of explosions.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by ElderPredator
The guys at Fox can't be that fucking retarded.


They released Freddy Got Fingered. That's enough for me.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by therealjohng
They released Freddy Got Fingered. That's enough for me.
I've seen way dumber movies get released. At least you knew what you were getting into with that movie. They weren't touting it as a new Die Hard and then having a "cool" director like Len Wiseman direct and an annoying sidekick in the form of Justin Long stuck in with a PG-13 rating.

[MadsenOMC]

Fox must be nervous because the third one was released a long time ago and there's an entire generation of moviegoers that wasn't even born when the first one was released. Plus, Willis doesn't have quite the star power that he used to. Of course he's still a household name, but his drawing power has diminished significantly. I'm not defending Fox at all and still think a PG-13 is idiotic, but I'm guessing that's where the studio is coming from on this.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by ElderPredator
[B I still think that this is just a rumour and that it actually will be rated R. The guys at Fox can't be that fucking retarded. [/B]

Willis in Vanity Fair on the PG-13 rating:

“I really wanted this one to live up to the promise of the first one, which I always thought was the only really good one,” Willis told Vanity Fair. “That’s a studio decision that is becoming more and more common, because they’re trying to reach a broader audience. It seems almost a courageous move to give a picture an R rating these days. But we still made a pretty hardcore, smashmouth film."

[darkface]

An R rated movie can still make bank. I think that's been proven. Maybe not as much as a PG-13 movie.

I'm not going to pass on the movie because it's not 'R' but I'm sure I would appreciate a more adult 'R' violent fun beat-'em up movie than PG-13.

Damn rating system.

[Alecc Bracero]

I've been thinking about this for sometime now. The script must have been cleaner than the first three Die Hards. You have to think about the convos between Willis and Dennis Franz in part 2 and the convos with Willis and Jackson in Vengeance. Everything they said to each other was a curse word. The dialogue in Live Free must have been cleaner from the beginning in order to even consider a PG-13.

This just sucks. There is no way around it. Die Hard, the first one, is in my opinion the greatest action movie of all time. It paved the way for so many action films after it. It's influence was so big people used to refer to movies like this:

Cliffhanger: Die Hard on a mountain.
Speed: Die Hard on a bus.
Under Siege: Die Hard on a ship.

The entire series will be tainted with the final installment being given a PG-13 rating.

Remember Major League? That's a classic R-rated baseball comedy. The sequel? Rated PG, and it was awful.

[ilovemovies]

Wait a second. Does this mean he won't be saying yippie kiyay motherfucker in this one?

I know it's in the trailer (well, the yippie kiyaye part anyway) but if they really are gonna cut this down to a PG-13, will they be ditching the saying? Cause it's NOT a Die Hard movie without McClane saying that dammit! :mad:


And they are cutting it, right? Meaning that this was originally an R rated movie but it'll be cut by the studios?

If that's the case at least hopefully, we'll get a great unrated dvd. Hopefully.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Wait a second. Does this mean he won't be saying yippie kiyay motherfucker in this one.
Someone may have answered this before, but I'm nearly certain that you can't say motherfucker in a PG-13 film. I have seen PG-13 movies with up to four or five or six uses of "fuck" (although it's rare), but putting the words "mother" and "fuck" together makes it a whole new ballgame.

To which I say, fucking sucks.

What will McClane say?

[MadsenOMC]

I bought the issue of Vanity Fair and just read the article. This is verbatim:

"The PG-13 thing seems to rankle Willis. He tried to push Live Free or Die Hard down the R highway, but apparently the days when a star as big as he is could call the shots are over. 'No one has that power,' says Willis. 'There is a much more powerful guy in Hollywood, and his name is Rupert Murdoch. It's his corporation. I only work there. I never did get a satisfactory answer (on the rating question). It does make it a little more difficult. They don't want to see a lot of blood squirting out of bad guys. You can still do a lot of horrific things - you just can't say the word fuck more than twice.' That is a problem, especially since 'Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker' is McClane's signature line. 'Saying fuck every other sentence is part of the vernacular of Die Hard,' Willis insists. But even he seems resigned to the inevitability of PG-13. 'That's a studio decision, one that is becoming more and more common, because they're trying to reach a broader audience. It seems almost a courageous move to give a picture an R rating these days.' "

Also from the article, a little earlier on:

"Willis, who raised eyebrows in the 80s by getting $5 million from Twentieth Century Fox for the first Die Hard, is reportedly being paid $20 million for this one, which will probably be rated PG-13, whereas the previous three were rated R."

[CuatroDiablos]

He will probably say yippie kiyay Mo...and there going to be something interrupting it , like and explosion.

[APzombie]

remember Be Cool? The sequel to the fucking great fucking get that fucking shorty fuckin movie? Travolta opened it saying "people are going soft, like in those pg-13 films, where they can only say the f word once... fuck that." they might try to be sly and clever and have him just say the famous line and that will be the big token moment and fox will walk away feeling clever.

Even if it pans out to be R, the mere fact that it could have been considered for a PG-13 rating means McClane's going soft, fuck if i'm paying 8.50 to see him catering to the apple kid he's protecting and his hot daughter.

[Danger^Cart]

I guess such a rating rules out any possibility of Willis wearing a large sign stating, "I HATE NIGGERS."

Someone explain to me how that right there ISN'T good clean family fun?

[KeyserSoza]

Eat shit and die Tom Rothman.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by CuatroDiablos
He will probably say yippie kiyay Mo...and there going to be something interrupting it , like and explosion.
Yes, I was thinking sort of like Jaws. Bruce will probably fire at a tank of compressed air in Timothy Olyphant's teeth.

"Yippe Kiyay Motherfu-"

KABLAAM!

Or maybe they'll just go with, "Yippe Kiyay, Mr. Fancypants!"

[Donnyhawk]

stupid stupid question ,but i'm curious

A buddy tell me that the plane we saw in the trailer was the last protytpe from the US AIR FORCE ..... is it true ? lol
Maybe a futur F20 ....^^

[DaveyJoeG]

Die Hard with a Vengeance was pretty violent, remember Jeremy Irons girlfriend slicing the guards up with her knife? They showed blood spurting from his neck, gruesome stuff.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by gyro_44

Or maybe they'll just go with, "Yippe Kiyay, Mr. Fancypants!"

I could get behind that.

[MadsenOMC]

I saw a clip last night during Lost. The end said "This film is not yet rated." That means PG-13, which I guess is old news at this point. It just doesn't look all that great to me. Big, dumb and loud. A decent matinee with your brain shut off but it looks so routine and cliched. There's no personality or an indication that it's something different from every other big summer action movie ever made.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I saw a clip last night during Lost. The end said "This film is not yet rated." That means PG-13, which I guess is old news at this point. It just doesn't look all that great to me. Big, dumb and loud. A decent matinee with your brain shut off but it looks so routine and cliched. There's no personality or an indication that it's something different from every other big summer action movie ever made.
True, except for the fact that it's John McClane, one of cinema's most venerable action heroes. And all-around coolest characters. However, if this is PG-13 (as it appears it's going to be), it's going to be one big uphill battle to keep McClane the same grumpy foul-mouthed bastard who won our hearts.

This movie does need some personality, and a decent script, to have any chance of being good. Wiseman looks like he's got the action thing covered.

[MadsenOMC]

It does have an iconic character and I'm sure the action will be fine. It's such a great series though, and seeing clips from the new one make it look so much more standard than previous entries. So we've got a bigger budget and better explosions, but I think other things that made the first three good might have been lost.

[Alecc Bracero]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
It does have an iconic character and I'm sure the action will be fine. It's such a great series though, and seeing clips from the new one make it look so much more standard than previous entries. So we've got a bigger budget and better explosions, but I think other things that made the first three good might have been lost.

The only thing that kept the first two sequels from being throw-away action films was The Willis, the tough-guy dialogue coming from everyone, and gore. Other than that, Die Hard 2 was a rehash of the first film and Die Hard With A Vengeance started off extremely promising and fell apart the moment McClane was surfing on top of the dump truck. It got pretty silly after that, like most action flicks these days. The first Die Hard is the only true standout in the series.

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the sequels very much, but there's nothing about them other than what I mentioned above that really makes them stick out.

I'm upset about the possible PG-13 rating for this film, but the trailer looks pretty sweet and the voice-over in the TV spots takes me back to the trailers for the previous Die Hards. I'm there.

[MadsenOMC]

The sequels may not be cinematic masterpieces, but they're pretty damn good action movies. I think they stick out for that alone. Good, R-rated action movies are somewhat rare these days. I miss them. I wish we got more of them.

[therealjohng]

Fuck it. I don't care about the PG-13 rating anymore. I'm going to this.

[Alecc Bracero]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Good, R-rated action movies are somewhat rare these days. I miss them. I wish we got more of them.

They're almost extinct. I miss them as well.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by dingostyle
They're almost extinct. I miss them as well.
Absolutely, they don't make em like they used to.

[RandalGraves]

Does anyone know what song is used in the trailer? It's the song played during the beginning and right at the end.

[MisterTwister]

It saddens me that people are still going to see this if its PG-13. Right there, you're supporting Fox's decision. I hope you're happy for now on when Fox decides to pull a PG-13 on many of its future films. I can see AVP 2 becoming PG-13, despite what the directors said. In the end, its fox's decision.

[mutesaint]

So is the word final yet on what this is, or will be rated?

[RandalGraves]

I don't think there is a final rating as of yet...

[ilovemovies]

I saw a commercial for the movie today and it still says it's not rated yet.

Could there still be hope for an R rating?

[Kevin Smith fan]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I saw a commercial for the movie today and it still says it's not rated yet.

Could there still be hope for an R rating?

Sweet christ I hope so, my summer cinematic experiance is depending on it. Don't fail us now McClane!

[therealjohng]

Didn't Bruce Willis all but confirm the PG-13 on a few occasions?

[mutesaint]

Originally posted by therealjohng
Didn't Bruce Willis all but confirm the PG-13 on a few occasions?

yes and no. He said they were thinking about it, but he never flat out confirmed. Hes manly been cya(cover your ass)'ing it and telling everyone its still as good as the first.

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by mutesaint
yes and no. He said they were thinking about it, but he never flat out confirmed. Hes manly been cya(cover your ass)'ing it and telling everyone its still as good as the first.


It better be as good as the first. I thought it was terrible.

[GodMagnus]

As a Die Hard fan I really hope they go with an R rating. Pg-13, while may gain more audience numbers, means nothing when kids 13-17 don't know much about Die Hard movies.

[pablo_super1!]

Originally posted by GodMagnus
As a Die Hard fan I really hope they go with an R rating. Pg-13, while may gain more audience numbers, means nothing when kids 13-17 don't know much about Die Hard movies.


Uh i'm a die hard fan and i've seen all 3 and I'm 15 but I know where you're coming from I would really prefer this to be an R than a PG-13

[RandalGraves]

Originally posted by RandalGraves
Does anyone know what song is used in the trailer? It's the song played during the beginning and right at the end.

[docholiday_13]

If it really is PG-13 I'll just cover myself in pigs blood and say "motherfucker" every twelve seconds whilst I watch it.

[smok3h]

I will be pissed if it does end up being PG-13, but nothing will ever crush my spirits more then AVP being PG-13. hahaha, I literally found out the day I was going to see it that it was rated PG-13, i just naturally assumed it would be R ya know? Fuck was I ever pissed when I got there. I couldn't even enjoy the movie I was so mad. Paul Anderson needs to get hit by a semi.

[Donnyhawk]

D"oh ! PARAMOUNT don't seem to like that we share some photos of TRANSFORMERS
Somes photos, the most recent avaiable everywhere on the web ,were removed from my flickr account ! damn it !

[Silverload]

Originally posted by therealjohng
Didn't Bruce Willis all but confirm the PG-13 on a few occasions?

He confirmed this a long time ago on AICN. He said several times over that they only took out a few ‘Fucks’ and the rating dropped to PG-13, so they decided to go that way. He said they did keep 3 ‘fucks’ in the final version though.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by Silverload
He confirmed this a long time ago on AICN. He said several times over that they only took out a few ‘Fucks’ and the rating dropped to PG-13, so they decided to go that way. He said they did keep 3 ‘fucks’ in the final version though.
Then the film's either not very violent and quick cuts to hell, or they got the deal or a lifetime. I can remember only once I saw a PG-13 movie with two fucks and I can't even remember what that was.

[Backstabba]

I remember the movie Hero with Dustin Hoffman and Andy Garcia was PG-13 and they said fuck about 7 times.

...Then again, that was Hero, not Live Free or Die Hard.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by Backstabba
I remember the movie Hero with Dustin Hoffman and Andy Garcia was PG-13 and they said fuck about 7 times.

...Then again, that was Hero, not Live Free or Die Hard.
Yeah, especially with the overcensorship nowadays. "My 13 year old shouldn't be hearing fuck or motherfucker! He should learn it from his parents or in school!"

[MisterTwister]

Someone over at the Friday the 13th boards said their brother works at Carmike movie theatre and that the new poster came in and has an R rating listed on the bottom. I did some research and I see nothing on a new poster and the movie is still listed as Not yet Rated. So take this info with a grain of salt.

But by god I hope he's right.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by MisterTwister
Someone over at the Friday the 13th boards said their brother works at Carmike movie theatre and that the new poster came in and has an R rating listed on the bottom. I did some research and I see nothing on a new poster and the movie is still listed as Not yet Rated. So take this info with a grain of salt.

But by god I hope he's right.
Let's hope so. But there seems to be a lot of evidence pointing towards the PG-13 scenario, so I'm doubtful. We'll wait and see.

[Kevin Smith fan]

If the film is light enough that it can even be considered for a PG-13, I think we're in trouble regardless of the rating.

[powerbomb1411]

That's twice now I've heard it was just Rated R. Someone on another forum said the MPAA just gave it an R. But I am looking for some good reliable news sites for a confirmation.

[yorrick brown]

may`be its only in the states its pg-13 and the rest of the world gets the R version?.

but for me it doesn`t really make a diferents i don`t watch these movies to hear f-bombs been dropped.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by yorrick brown
may`be its only in the states its pg-13 and the rest of the world gets the R version?.

but for me it doesn`t really make a diferents i don`t watch these movies to hear f-bombs been dropped.
Violence and f-bombs is about the main (most likely the only) reason to watch Die Hard movies. It's just another Hollywood action film with Bruce Willis stuck in the role without the hard R rating. Actually, it kinda already is with Wiseman directing...

[Tuukka]

I also read at WOKJ that MPAA just rated it R. I have no clue what the hell is going on.

[Alecc Bracero]

Originally posted by Tuukka
I also read at WOKJ that MPAA just rated it R. I have no clue what the hell is going on.

I can't handle this tug of war going on with the rating of this flick. PG-13! NO! IT'S R! NO IT'S PG-13! NO! IT'S R!

Fox, stop toying with us and release a rating already!

[NuclearMisfit]

Give me an R I dont think i can handle seeing a PG-13 anymore. Rating it PG-13 might sell more tickets but its like punishing older movie goers into having to watch a watered down crapfest. It aint the f-bombs im worried about its the lack of action.

[mutesaint]

Originally posted by dingostyle
I can't handle this tug of war going on with the rating of this flick. PG-13! NO! IT'S R! NO IT'S PG-13! NO! IT'S R!

Fox, stop toying with us and release a rating already!

Amen. Ill take any rating now. I dont care. I just want it to be official. The trailers have done enough to make it look good, I just want to see something. Although, please let it be an R. Please let it be an R.

[Worthystevens]

Someone over on the Coming Soon! boards say they work at a theatre, and that LFoDH IS rated R.

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48633&page=2

And they posted a pic of their bookings:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7376/livefreegc3.gif

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Is it's PG-13 when it comes out, Worthystevens, it's your ass for getting my hopes up. ;)

[Worthystevens]

Believe me, if it is rated PG-13, I'll be kicking my own ass too. ;)

[mutesaint]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
Is it's PG-13 when it comes out, Worthystevens, it's your ass for getting my hopes up. ;)

I gotta echo Tyler here. But dont worry, we get that youl be in the gutter with all of us.

[kubotakhan01]

PG -13? DIE HARD? Shouldnt even be said in the same sentence. This series was made classic by the over the top violence and foul language. It's what makes these films what they are ( classics all three of them) Not hearing John Maclaine burst with anger spouting f bomb after f bomb just wont have the same feel as the rest of the series. My heart has officially been broken, as FOX has successfully murdered a legendary character and film. Not seeing this one till it comes out on DVD.

[RandalGraves]

Originally posted by RandalGraves
Does anyone know what song is used in the trailer? It's the song played during the beginning and right at the end.

[ElderPredator]

I believe that sheet of paper above cause I've seen similar sheets. They still haven't announced the rating which means that it has to be R-rated.

[Worthystevens]

This “systems” failings were once again thrown into the spotlight this week with the latest round of ratings for upcoming films, with the story of “Live Free or Die Hard” being the main bone of contention.

Now don’t get me wrong I’m glad it got an R rating, the idea of John McClain being forced to swear like a 8 year old Catholic schoolgirl and being restricted to shooting only 3 bad guys instead of 4 at a time doesn’t bare thinking about. But it’s a real tragedy on the part of the MPAA that all the film had to aim for was either PG-13 or R with no middle ground of any type to fall back on.

http://worldofkj.com/articleIndex.php?tid=30437

[Tyler_Durden_208]

YIPPIE-KAY-YAY MOTHERFUCKER!!!
:D

I'm still a little tentative cos of Wiseman directing and Long opening his mouth, but this helped it's case out a lot.

[NCarter]

Thank god, it was getting harder and harder to be excited for this movie.
I really hope this is the case.

Nobody wants a PG-13 Die Hard

[gyro_44]

Hmmm... well that's great if it pans out, but then why all the PG-13 talk from Bruce Willis and Justin Long? I don't really get it.

I'll wait until it's OFFICIALLY official. Did Fox think twice about it?

[MidnightAngel]

Originally posted by Worthystevens
Someone over on the Coming Soon! boards say they work at a theatre, and that LFoDH IS rated R.

http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?t=48633&page=2

And they posted a pic of their bookings:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7376/livefreegc3.gif

Transformers finally got a PG-13 rating. All the Die Hard movies are R rated due to its hard violence so it's a dumb idea if Die Hard 4 gets a PG-13 rating which i believe it won't.

[Worthystevens]

Originally posted by gyro_44
Hmmm... well that's great if it pans out, but then why all the PG-13 talk from Bruce Willis and Justin Long? I don't really get it.

I'll wait until it's OFFICIALLY official. Did Fox think twice about it?

I'm thinking Fox saw the backlash at the PG-13 and rethought it.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Worthystevens
I'm thinking Fox saw the backlash at the PG-13 and rethought it.

I woldn't doubt it, but right now I don't think the movie has a rating. Both imdb.com and the MPAA website don't have a rating for it.

So there's still hope.

[Boner X-Ray]

Originally posted by Worthystevens
I'm thinking Fox saw the backlash at the PG-13 and rethought it.
God I would love this. Even though I still think the movie looks like shit, I'd rather see it with an R.

[SkyNet]

the thing that is hard to believe about that sheet is:

1) Michael Bay has said that Transformers clocks in at 120 minutes... that sheet has it listed at 135 min.

2) It seems as though someone just guesstimated what the Rating for Live Free or Die Hard is going to be, granted it is an educated guess with the previous 3 being R.

I still plan on seeing it even if it was PG for "Mild Peril"!!

but an R would be the best way to go with it!

BUT... what i am saying is: If it was shot R and got an R and fox cut it to a PG13, then we should get the R rated version. But if it was just shot, without a rating in mind, and it just happened to get a PG13... then, i am willing to let that slide!

make sense? i think, i hope?!

[APzombie]

what i'm saying is- even if it turns out R, the mere fact the they could have made some edits to get it down to PG-13 and have it be almost the exact same film scares me. Try cutting the first or third down to PG-13, not only is it difficult as shit, but if you did, it would be an entirely new picture.

Unless I hear from people I trust that it is JUST as good as the previous films, I might see it. Even if it turns out to be "ok" or "fun but not great" than I say fuck it. I wont see it. Leave the mildly entertaining to Nicholas Cage and Jason Statham action films, this is fucking John McClane.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Well, I mean, the first three have been on TV multiple times, cut to PG-13 standards. So it's not impossible. You'd just have to change dialog and make several snips on the violence level.

[Shockwave]

If this isnt rated a proper R then i doubt ill even pay to see it.

Same way im not even going to both with a PG Fantastic Four.:o

[ElderPredator]

The latest news is that Len Wiseman is just finishing the final cut of the movie which makes me think that he was given the go ahead by Fox to make it R-rated. This would make sense because he had already finished the movie and it was given a PG-13 rating. So because he went back to the editing room, I firmly believe that we're getting an R-rating. All the TV spots and the official website still say that the movie has not yet been rated and it's only 3 weeks away. That is a clear sign that all us fans are going to get what we want. :cool:

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
Well, I mean, the first three have been on TV multiple times, cut to PG-13 standards. So it's not impossible. You'd just have to change dialog and make several snips on the violence level.

"Yippee Kiyay... Mr. Falcon!"

[ElderPredator]

Originally posted by gyro_44
"Yippee Kiyay... Mr. Falcon!"

Hahaha! When I first watched "Die Hard 2" on Fox TV, they said...."Yippee Kiyay...Mother Theresa!" I almost burst a lung from laughing so hard.

[Worthystevens]

Originally posted by ElderPredator
The latest news is that Len Wiseman is just finishing the final cut of the movie which makes me think that he was given the go ahead by Fox to make it R-rated. This would make sense because he had already finished the movie and it was given a PG-13 rating. So because he went back to the editing room, I firmly believe that we're getting an R-rating. All the TV spots and the official website still say that the movie has not yet been rated and it's only 3 weeks away. That is a clear sign that all us fans are going to get what we want. :cool:

That's my thinking as well. :)

Also, there's been some reports that in local newspapers, advance ticketing has listed LFoDH as R. EDIT: Found this.

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3576/53049scan00021221026loxk3.jpg

http://imdb.com/title/tt0337978/board/thread/76439129

[bigred760]

Originally posted by ElderPredator
The latest news is that Len Wiseman is just finishing the final cut of the movie which makes me think that he was given the go ahead by Fox to make it R-rated. This would make sense because he had already finished the movie and it was given a PG-13 rating. So because he went back to the editing room, I firmly believe that we're getting an R-rating. All the TV spots and the official website still say that the movie has not yet been rated and it's only 3 weeks away. That is a clear sign that all us fans are going to get what we want. :cool:

Here's hoping.

[Shockwave]

Yippie Ki Yay mother Fuckers!:D

Looks like its going with a R rating afterall, as this now leaps to the front of my "must see" list!

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Shockwave
Yippie Ki Yay mother Fuckers!:D

Looks like its going with a R rating afterall, as this now leaps to the front of my "must see" list!

If it's true, then Amen to THAT!!!

[Tony_Montana]

Could just be theaters ASSUMING it's going to be R.


Hurry the fuck up MPAA and release the fucking rating!!!

[ElderPredator]

Come on baby, daddy wants to see a big fat R!!!!

I'm keeping my eyes out on the official website and mpaa.org. If the movie is rated-R, it will be my #1 movie of the summer for sure. Followed closely by "Transformers".

[Worthystevens]

I looked through my local paper last night, and yup, my Regal cinema also has it as R. :)

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/8265/regrf2.jpg

[Bourne101]

Things are looking good for the R rating. I really want to fucking see official proof though.

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by Tony_Montana
Could just be theaters ASSUMING it's going to be R.


Hurry the fuck up MPAA and release the fucking rating!!!

My Regal has it as a R as well, thats why clinched it for me.

[Bourne101]

Jesus! It's PG-13. I just checked out the official site. But didn't Snakes on a Plane get a PG-13 on the site, and a day later was R?

[Shockwave]

I think so.

I dont think all the theatres would print it out if it wasnt rated R...

[Tony_Montana]

I went on the official site and it still says not rated. :confused:

[Alecc Bracero]

Originally posted by Bourne101
Jesus! It's PG-13. I just checked out the official site. But didn't Snakes on a Plane get a PG-13 on the site, and a day later was R?

It's true, I went to the official site as well and saw the PG-13 rating.

As far as the SoaP situation goes, I fear Die Hard won't be as lucky and will end up in theatres with this fucking PG-13 rating.

I pray for a miracle, but I don't see it coming.

Damn you bastards at FOX! DAMN YOU!!!!!

[Shockwave]

If its PG-13 i wont be seeing the waterd down version in theatres. Ill wait for the directors cut on DVD.:o

[MidnightAngel]

Dammit is this true? Don't tell me Fox is making another clusterfuck a la Alien vs. Predator!

[MadsenOMC]

The official site is livefreeordiehard.com right? I just went there and the bottom of the main page said "This Film is Not Yet Rated."

[MidnightAngel]

Originally posted by Shockwave
If its PG-13 i wont be seeing the waterd down version in theatres. Ill wait for the directors cut on DVD.:o

Or you should say the unrated version on dvd. Yippi-ki-yay Mother Theresa this theatrical Die Hard sequel is gonna suck!

[Alecc Bracero]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
The official site is livefreeordiehard.com right? I just went there and the bottom of the main page said "This Film is Not Yet Rated."

Check out this link dude.

http://www.livefreeordiehard.com/index_site.html

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by dingostyle
Check out this link dude.

http://www.livefreeordiehard.com/index_site.html

Ah thank you. That's not the same place I was. No doubt about it. It's PG-13. No surprise there.

[ilovemovies]

I know the site says PG-13, but I just saw a commercial and it still says it's not rated yet.


Despite what the website says, I'm not giving up hope for an R until it says in the commercials.

[MadsenOMC]

It looks official. The specific reasons for the rating are there as well. I don't think there's any reason to doubt that that is the official rating for the movie.

[ilovemovies]

Yet I can't find it at mpaa.org

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Yet I can't find it at mpaa.org

I bet it will be there very soon. Maybe they don't update the site daily. Either way, since the reasons for the rating are there, it's official.

[gyro_44]

Yep, I knew it. Fuck.

Regal Cinemas were obviously just running on a hunch, and they were wrong.

It's PG-13.

[Tony_Montana]

Man, fuck Fox! Fuck them up their stupid asses!

[MisterTwister]

Well the hope of it being Rated R was just flushed down the toilet. Fuck the film, I'm not seeing no watered down Die Hard sequel. I'll wait for "Unrated" DVD.

[MadsenOMC]

Do you guys think there's going to be an unrated DVD? And not one of those, look we added five seconds of crap and just decided to call it unrated to sell more DVDs. I mean a real unrated DVD. If this was intended to be PG-13 from the start, there will probably not be a true unrated version released on DVD.

[Alecc Bracero]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Do you guys think there's going to be an unrated DVD? And not one of those, look we added five seconds of crap and just decided to call it unrated to sell more DVDs. I mean a real unrated DVD. If this was intended to be PG-13 from the start, there will probably not be a true unrated version released on DVD.

Well, I saw that vid interview they posted on the Joblo home page a couple of weeks ago with Justin Long saying that The Willis did some alternate takes of scenes dropping more f-bombs for the DVD release. We'll see if that's true in a few months.

[MadsenOMC]

So maybe the DVD will have a featurette that consists entirely of Willis saying "Fuck."

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Do you guys think there's going to be an unrated DVD? And not one of those, look we added five seconds of crap and just decided to call it unrated to sell more DVDs. I mean a real unrated DVD. If this was intended to be PG-13 from the start, there will probably not be a true unrated version released on DVD.
You might be right. If they do release an unrated DVD, I doubt it will be much more "hardcore" than the theatrical cut. Didn't Fox release an "unrated director's cut" of Alien vs Predator that was like, virtually the same movie?

If the movie was made to be tame and safe, then we will likely never see a version much meaner.

God, I hope I am wrong.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
Do you guys think there's going to be an unrated DVD? And not one of those, look we added five seconds of crap and just decided to call it unrated to sell more DVDs. I mean a real unrated DVD. If this was intended to be PG-13 from the start, there will probably not be a true unrated version released on DVD.
I'm hoping what Willis said about them shooting it for an R-rating was true. And that Wiseman was smart enough to put the R rated version up in the vaults.

[Shockwave]

Im just wondering why FOX is so fucking stupid.

Do they really think so much more people will see this if its PG-13?:confused:

...when the ENITRE series has carried a hard R rating?

[RandalGraves]

AHHHH! NO!:mad: This makes me angrier than when Alien vs Predator was PG-13....when the entire series is built off R ratings, why ruin it with pg-13!:mad:

[RandalGraves]

Originally posted by RandalGraves
Does anyone know what song is used in the trailer? It's the song played during the beginning and right at the end.

[Weapon X]

Wah wah wah, PG-13.

I'm still going to see it, on account it looks $%&#!ing badass.

[APzombie]

Lets just look at the facts.

- The new Die Hard is directed by the dude who made Underworld.

- The new Die Hard Hard has Justin Long.

- The new Die Hard has a Kevin Smith Cameo.

- The new Die Hard is written by the guy who wrote Godsend.

- The new Die Hard is PG-13

Now imagine if all this information hit us at once and not over a period of a year?

No way i'm seeing this unless it gets huge ratings.

[Tony_Montana]

I get all the other ones, but I never got why people complained about Kevin Smith???? Ain't all his flicks apart from Jersey Girl solid R material? Or is this non-ratings related?:confused:

[MidnightAngel]

I hope it tanks at the box office! :mad:

Remember the movie Speed was rated R and became a box office hit meanwhile Speed 2 was rated PG-13 and tanked at the box office with negative reviews. Oh yeah Live Free or Die Hard is gonna suck rock bottom and Fox has already threw the crap to the fan!

[Tyler_Durden_208]

...I think Speed 2 would've sucked with an R rating. When Keanu Reeves won't return for your sequel, you know you're fucked.
I hope it doesn't tank, as that means just a crappy DVD release, with no features or hope for an R-rated cut, but I hope it underperforms quite a bit.

[MisterTwister]

Originally posted by APzombie
Lets just look at the facts.

- The new Die Hard is directed by the dude who made Underworld.

- The new Die Hard Hard has Justin Long.

- The new Die Hard has a Kevin Smith Cameo.

- The new Die Hard is written by the guy who wrote Godsend.

- The new Die Hard is PG-13

Now imagine if all this information hit us at once and not over a period of a year?

No way i'm seeing this unless it gets huge ratings.

Yes but the Underworld movies were Rated R and Evolution was pretty damn gory. Thats why I thought this would be R but Fox had to step in and muck up the works.

[cocksmokinclerk]

Originally posted by Shockwave
Im just wondering why FOX is so fucking stupid.

Do they really think so much more people will see this if its PG-13?:confused:

...when the ENITRE series has carried a hard R rating?

gotta get those little brats butts in the seats, i'm not entirely depressed but i am pretty bummed about this news

[Worthystevens]

Originally posted by Shockwave
Im just wondering why FOX is so fucking stupid.

Do they really think so much more people will see this if its PG-13?:confused:

...when the ENITRE series has carried a hard R rating?

I'm thinking, what with the popularity of releasing unrated versions on DVD nowadays, Fox is merely trying to save more footage to make an R or unrated DVD for LFoDH.

Which sucks cold hard ass.

[Kevin Smith fan]

PG-13? So what the hell am I supposed to go watch until Halloween comes out?

[ramborob]

I can't believe the PG13 rating they have destroyed on the greatest action stories of all time. You can't make John Mclane PG13, this means that they are going to rely on Justin long comdey side-kick crap rather than good old fashioned American street violence.

[Shockwave]

Fuck.

This.


I really have a growing hate for FOX that pretty much knows no bounds.

Excitement for this movie has reached an all time low for me. Good to know well get alot of explosions to mask shit.

[ElderPredator]

I'm still going to see it but I'm still disappointed.

[InvaderZim]

Im going to stay away from this movie.. Im a big die hard fan but mabey you guys can get enough balls to hit the companies where it hurts... in the wallet.. i wont be seeing this shit.

I WAS ANTICIPATING>>>>NOW JUST HATING IT

[yorrick brown]

EDIT

white people don`t make good side kicks in action movies.we ain`t funny and we can`t swear.48hrs,long kiss goodnight,last boy scout .hence why when justin long took this role it became a pg 13.

plus everyone argees die hard hard 2 sucked next to the other ones .why?

look


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u136/rhysoedwards/john20mclane20-encuesta-1.jpg


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/truffle1722/Die_Hard_Vengeance.jpg

he has to wear a white singlet.or whatever you guys call it in american.

[Strider]

So the PG-13 rating is official now? If so, Fox just lost themselves $10 from me. I won't be seeing it. I'll wait for the director's cut DVD instead (if Fox actually has plans to release one, of course).

I'm very upset over this. Nothing about the Die Hard series or John McClane screams out "PG-13." Absolutely nothing.

Strider

[yorrick brown]

for people that don`t live in america.

pg-13 is that a MA-15 rating aka m rating?.

[Bourne101]

In an interview that you can read over at comingsoon.net, Bruce says that he indeed says "Yippe-ki-yay, Mothefucker". Which still isn't good enough, but is the best news I have heard about this movie in a long time.

[JackassFan]

Fuck's sake.

I'll still see it, but I'm not happy.

[Superplasmatron]

to me die hard is about vests and wise cracks, I think that they work due to willis cheese ball comic timing and by the advert it looks like there is plenty of explosions and action, It'll be a 15 here, which is the same that vengence got, I'm very exhited about this film, i think your being abit reactionary, willis thinks the final cut is good, so if its shit ill be suprised

[crodger]

Originally posted by yorrick brown
for people that don`t live in america.

pg-13 is that a MA-15 rating aka m rating?.

It'll be M here yorrick. Just like the other 3 here. I'll still be there opening day. I'll watch anything with J. McClane in it.

[sarah1980]

Originally posted by JackassFan
Fuck's sake.

I'll still see it, but I'm not happy.

[ilovemovies]

Despite the PG-13 rating Bruce Willis has said that we'll still hear him say Yippi-kiyay motherfucker and that the level of violence and action almost rival the first film which sounds kind of bizzarre to me if the movie is PG-13. I mean the first one was CLEARLY R rated in it's violence.

I don't know. I guess we'll see when the movie comes out.


Here's the link to the interview:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20922

[Cronos]

PG-13 = my interest in this has pretty much completely gone out the window and made a big splat on the ground

[Scarfather]

Die Hard and Die Hard with a Vengeance are, truly, two of my favorite action films of all time, and they are so because of Bruce Willis' (and Sam Jacksons' in Vengeance) crafty wordplay, a badass villain, and, most especially, crazy action violence.

They're popcorn movies to the end, but they're popcorn movies for dad while the kids watched fuckin' Pocahontas.

I love Die Hard, and I'll still see it, but damn, it better not be totally watered down.

[ilovemovies]

According to Bruce Willis, it's not.

Now I know it's his job to promote the movie, but if he's wrong then he's out right lying and Willis doesn't strike me as someone who would do that.

[Weapon X]

A movie is more than just its rating.

I'm going to see it, and I'm expecting to have a good time. I'm expecting to see John McClane fuck some people up, and I'm expecting him to have a good time doing it. At its core, that's what Die Hard is about. The rampant profanity is just a greasy coating on an already filthy car (if that analogy makes any sense).

Originally posted by ilovemovies
According to Bruce Willis, it's not.

Now I know it's his job to promote the movie, but if he's wrong then he's out right lying and Willis doesn't strike me as someone who would do that.

It's also to note that when he said that, he was speaking (through AICN, of all places) to actual MOVIE FANS, not a magazine or television interviewer. I'd say the chances of him bullshitting are lower on account of that.

[Weapon X]

EDIT: Shit, double post.

[MadsenOMC]

I think Willis also told people that The Whole Ten Yards was even funnier than the first.

If I do see this, I am lowering my expectations as much as I possibly can. I will be expecting something entirely different from the first three DH movies. Clearly the studio decided to make an entirely different DH movie. There might be some good action in it, but they added a dopey young sidekick and made it PG-13, and it looks like you could take Willis out, call it something else and have nothing left that would make you believe it was once a DH movie.

[Shockwave]

..so hows this gonna go down?

Bruce- "Yippie Ki Yay Motherfu-CUE LARGE EXPLOSION!"

Id lie if i say i wasnt looking forward to Transformers more now. I just have a bad feeling this is going to be the diet coke version of a Die Hard film.:(

[Bourne101]

There will probably be as much violence, or more in Live Free or Die Hard than any other Die Hard. It will definitely not be as graphic or brutal, but I would say it will definitely end up being the most violent/graphic PG-13 film ever made. That's not saying a lot, but it is better than an extremely watered down PG-13, or PG.

As for the Yippe-ki-yay, Mothefucker, it will be there, and I will be cheering when I hear it.

I am very disappointed that it is not R. Words can even describe my disappointment. But I am going to give this flick a solid chance, and I am going in with a positive mind.

[MadsenOMC]

How are you defining violence if you think this will be both as violent as any other DH movie and the most violent PG-13 ever, even if it isn't graphic/brutal? Just bloodless shooting and explosions?

[Tyler_Durden_208]

What's weird is in the new TV teasers, you can hear Willis say "Yippie-Kay-Yay, Motherfu-" and it cuts to the credits before he finishes. But the situation looks to me as it's almost peaceful (as peaceful as this kind of movie can get) with nothing happening, unlike AVP, where you knew they were gonna censor it. I'll be surprised if the line makes it in, but it won't change for me whether the movie's good or not.

[Shockwave]

I thinkw hat pisses me off is that the studio went on about it like it was going to be rated R.

From the way hes talked about the movie, Im betting Willis wouldnt have even signed onto a PG-13 Die Hard if he had known from the start.

[MadsenOMC]

I can't imagine Willis turning down a $20 million paycheck over the rating.

[Shockwave]

Yeah, i just dont think the studio let him in on the PG-13 rating goal since hes been going around saying its gonna be rated R.

[MadsenOMC]

Was Bruce saying it would be rated R? As a big a star as he is and once was, I don't doubt that the studio didn't consult him about the rating.

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
How are you defining violence if you think this will be both as violent as any other DH movie and the most violent PG-13 ever, even if it isn't graphic/brutal? Just bloodless shooting and explosions?

I mean the amount of violence. Which means body count, shootings, explosions etc.

[MadsenOMC]

Gotcha.

[athf1980]

Yes,I'm little upset over the pg-13 rating but there is worse things out there then pg-13 rating Die Hard. I will still see it. It still could a solid action movie. It still can be quite violent w/o the squirting of blood or little less swearing. A guy saying F*** thousands of times does not make a movie bad or good. . rating of movie does not make good or bad. It's the movie itselfs that makes the movie bad.
Casino Royale and MI3 weret quite violent even with the pg-13 rating.

[gyro_44]

I think there's a difference between "violence" and "mayhem". I really think we're going to be seeing more mayhem in Live Free or Die Hard. In my terms that would be explosions, cars vaulting at helicopters, and things like that. I would rule out very much bloody gun violence and certainly nothing as brutal as the hand-to-hand combat between McClane and the blonde-haired terrorist in the first Die Hard.

This cannot and will not be anywhere near as violent as the other Die Hard movies. That's because all of them were REALLY VIOLENT. A PG-13 is too restrictive. What they have hopefully done is bring the INTENSITY so they can fool us into thinking it feels like an R-rated movie.

My expectations have dropped, but I still plan on seeing the movie. If they don't get in "Yippee Kayay Motherfucker" and at least some satisfying violence (no, not mayhem), I'm going to be disappointed... but not at all surprised.

In other words I'm fully prepared to be completely let down.

[Double-Oh-Zero]

Jesus H. Tapdancin' Christ. They actually did it. And yet I'm not entirely surprised. Well, fuck-a-doodle-do.

Well, won't bother then. I'll wait for the uncut DVD, which, because it's fuckin' Fox, prolly won't be released for another two years.

The sad part is that the six sentences I just wrote contain the maximum amount of f-bombs McClane can say in this one.

[mutesaint]

Im waiting for someone to come in, on this board, and say "Yes its Pg-13, but it still fucking rocked." Im not trusting any newspapers on this one. I want a real opinion. If the word is good Ill give it a shot, if not, I can be patient

[WebHed]

Yippie-Ka Yaay Mother Flowers!!!!!!

[Shockwave]

“In June's VANITY FAIR, it states that Bruce Willis was initially disappointed that his fourth DIE HARD film will likely be cut to get a PG-13 rating rather than an R. 'I really wanted this one to live up to the promise of the first one, which I always thought was the only really good one.’ And he's not happy about it. 'That's a studio decision that is becoming more and more common, because they're trying to reach a broader audience. It seems almost a courageous move to give a picture an R rating these days. But we still made a pretty hardcore, smashmouth film.’“

Dammitall.

On the upside Willis swears this is just as good as the original. Thats a high mark to set for me.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by Shockwave
On the upside Willis swears this is just as good as the original. Thats a high mark to set for me.
Once again, something he did with The Whole Ten Yards. Willis knows how to hype up a movie, even if he doesn't believe in it. He's been in the movie business long enough to know when to just say good things about the product before-hand and bad mouth it afterward.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I can't imagine Willis turning down a $20 million paycheck over the rating.
I can't imagine Willis turning down much of anything. At all.

[gyro_44]

If this is anything like The Whole Ten Yards, we are truly fucked.

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by gyro_44
If this is anything like The Whole Ten Yards, we are truly fucked.
Well, considering how I didn't like The Whole Nine Yards that much, but do think that Ten is pretty fucking horrible, that must equal out that LFoDH can at least be entertaining by analogy.

[NuclearMisfit]

Im not gonna let it bother me anymore being PG-13 cause if it sucks i can always write it off in my head as well as the 9 and some change for the movie ticket.

[ZombieEater00]

I like the idea of over the top action. I think its just gonna be pure chaos, destruction, and violence in the best way possible. It only seems logical for it to be on such a big scale.

They crash a car into a helicopter for christ sake. Thats just the trailer. Imagine what we'll see in the movie. Bruce willis riding a missle like a cowboy then jumping off before it blows up a gunship? Even if the action doesnt make any sense, like when Bruce tosses a fire extinguisher just at the right time as the baddy is turning the corner and shoot it to blow him out the window. It could of just been Bruce shooting him but thats old. I think they drew most of the influence from Die hard with a vengence. Think about it, you got a Tough badass super cop and an average joe physicaly weak computer hacker teaming up to take down lethal terrorists. The movie takes place all around the city leaving a trail of detruction and chaos behind it. I like the idea of the computer infrastructure being attacked. That is believable and scary. Sounds like it could happen in the real world real soon. I like it i love it and i want some more of it. This movie could not come out soon enough. I wanna creme myself. I think i just might... peace

[Alecc Bracero]

Click on the link below. Just shows the influence Die Hard has on the action movie genre.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070615/film_nm/action_dc_1

[gyro_44]

Here's a couple lengthy clips from the movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucewv-mbcjY