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Jon Lyrik
05-12-2007, 02:47 PM
That's it, I'm starting my new movement. What we are essentially against (incomplete):

-democracy
-authoritarianism
-censorship
-corruption
-religion
-voting
-politics
-government
-hierarchy

Who's intrigued?

Vong
05-12-2007, 03:23 PM
You might as well include a banner saying "Welcome to the State of Nature!"

Jon Lyrik
05-12-2007, 03:46 PM
Oh, that reminds me. Environmentalist solely to not fuck the planet up. Nature is not beautiful, folks.

Thrizzle
05-12-2007, 04:30 PM
Isnt this just called Anarchy? Someone's been reading Fight Club. :p

Jon Lyrik
05-12-2007, 04:59 PM
Not quite. The point of "schizoarchy" is for the individual to embrace humanitarianism and the aiding of all conscious or potentially pained beings while avoiding and in small ways, subverting all forms of leadership for their inherent corruption (hence to split from it). Anarchism is futile and ineffective.

someguy
05-12-2007, 05:28 PM
I guess you're against coming up with good names too hey-ooooooooo

Brando @$$ Fat
05-12-2007, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
Environmentalist solely to not fuck the planet up. Nature is not beautiful, folks.

Yeah, caring about the environment will only make the planet worse :rolleyes:

Jon Lyrik
05-12-2007, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Yeah, caring about the environment will only make the planet worse :rolleyes:

WTF? I *am* for caring about the environment, because not doing so will have very adverse effects. But despite that, I'm not really pro-nature, as can be demonstrated by all human problems being rooted in it (plus, you watch some footage on lions ripping apart their prey and tell me nature is beautiful).

Thrizzle
05-12-2007, 06:46 PM
Hunter gatherer societies have everything you want. They are egalitarian societies and dont bother with government, politics or economics because their focus is on food. And they take care of the environment because they depend on its health.

Brando @$$ Fat
05-12-2007, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
WTF? I *am* for caring about the environment, because not doing so will have very adverse effects. But despite that, I'm not really pro-nature, as can be demonstrated by all human problems being rooted in it (plus, you watch some footage on lions ripping apart their prey and tell me nature is beautiful).


Humans are the problem, not nature itself. Animals do what they need to live, while we do what we think God/Allah/L. Ron Hubbard wants us to do. Nature isn't beautiful, but it isn't terrible either....nature is just nature. Even when everything has died, nature will continue to work because that's what it does. It's simply indifferent.

I really don't want to sound like an asshole asking you this, but did you have a bad week or something? I don't mean that in a "only somebody angry/crazy would come up with something like that" way, but I remember once coming up with a similar idea during the exact same week that I got out of a long relationship, my car died, and the angry/depressed side of my bipolar disorder was kicking in.

Squid Vicious
05-12-2007, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Jon Lyrik
That's it, I'm starting my new movement. What we are essentially against (incomplete):

-democracy
-authoritarianism
-censorship
-corruption
-religion
-voting
-politics
-government
-hierarchy

Who's intrigued?

Take democracy off the list and I'm in.

Lynn7
05-13-2007, 12:32 AM
I have never been in any group where there is no hierarchy. It's natural that someone will be the unspoken leader- the one with charisma that everyone looks to. Group dynamics.

EVILxxx
05-13-2007, 12:35 AM
'Human nature' would fit on that list as well.

Jon Lyrik
05-13-2007, 12:25 PM
"Oddly" enough, this idea didn't come off a bout of mild mental illness. Plus, I think people are missing the point: I know perfectly well this concept is quite anti-human nature in general. The whole purpose of it is to avoid segments of it (including these bullshit elections) and in some small, individual way, help improve on it.

And of course, nature is indifferent, but the brutality seen in nature is the root of our current problems.

Lynn7
05-14-2007, 01:59 PM
That is called the sin nature and is why we need God. ;)

Thrizzle
05-14-2007, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by Lynn7
That is called the sin nature and is why we need God. ;)

Still waiting for that theory to produce results, lol.

Jon Lyrik
05-14-2007, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Lynn7
That is called the sin nature and is why we need God. ;)

Should I even bother? Why not...

God certainly doesn't seem too concerned with stopping this, which kind of contradicts the omni-benevolence thing. Looks like we are out on our own, and SOL and JWF if we don't work on things without factoring in the ultimate tool of intellectual dishonesty and curtained power-grabbing.

Lynn7
05-14-2007, 10:37 PM
He is concerned- that is why he sent Jesus to save us out of this world. And Jesus a man who only did good was tortured and killed because of man's evil. But God knew that. Jesus shared in our sufferings.

Not to get into a religious discussion but just to answer to your charge. You are free not to beleive it.