NINJAS!

[Danger^Cart]

Cinema history has seen scores of serious, well-to-do Samurai films, ranging from the classic (arguably) black and white fable Seven Samurai to the modern day epic Tom Cruise vehicle The Last Samurai, and everything in between.

But where, praytell, is our competent Ninja movie? I'm not sure what it is about the art of Ninjitsu that attracts such low budget fare, but as far as I know there hasn't been a single "serious" production involving Ninjas since the first fucking lense was invented. As such, Ninjas have become something of a running joke, incompetent filmmakers choosing to center cheesey third rate action montages around a ludicrous story.

Just fucking once, I'd like to see a thoughtful, competent approach to the ancient art, because it certainly deserves just as much respect as Bushido, and I'm sick of seeing it pissed on.

I WANT A GOOD NINJA MOVIE!!!

[dennisv]

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[Cronos]

completely agreed on this, i've seen very very few Ninja films but they're all been really crappy and it'd be great to have a film worthy of the ninja

[Psychocandy]

Best thread title ever!!!

[Tyler_Durden_208]

I concur. Let's form an angry mob!

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!

[Psychocandy]

I should probably make a pertinent, on topic response to this thread.

ME WANT NINJA MOVIE!!!

ME WANT NINJA MOVIE NOW!!!

[KyleG]

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[Cronos]

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8573/ninjacatoj0.jpg

[Cyd V]

Check out !Ninja Wars! it's by far the best ninja flick i've ever seen.. But the big problem is they don't show enough of the ninja's which was disapointing, but it's still good..

But ya, I've been searching for a really good ninja flick since i was born.. They always let me down so much..

[Danger^Cart]

Is Azumi any good?

[Cronos]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Is Azumi any good?
i liked it, wouldn't really call it a ninja movie though

[God of War]

Azumi 1 & 2 are very cool. You should try n rent 'em, DC.

What abiout The Hunted, starring Cristopher Lambert? That was cool too.

[TylerDurden182]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Is Azumi any good?

Ugh.

[bowieee]

Originally posted by God of War
Azumi 1 & 2 are very cool. You should try n rent 'em, DC.

What abiout The Hunted, starring Cristopher Lambert? That was cool too.

Wait there is an Azumi 2? Really? Is it as good as the first?

[sarah1980]

Originally posted by KyleG
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0001K2LLU.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[God of War]

Originally posted by bowieee
Wait there is an Azumi 2? Really? Is it as good as the first?
Yes, there is, dude. All I can say is, just watch it if you can get a hold of it. I enjoyed it very much. But I still prefer the original. Im not good at breaking down movies, but I will say that it has some equally interesting and gruesome fights in the sequel. Azumi is just too cute and way too lethal for her own good.

Can't find a pic of Azumi 2, sorry.

http://images2.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/1172660h.jpg

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by TylerDurden182
Ugh.

Uh oh. If you don't like it that pretty much garauntees I won't.

As for The Hunted, I'm not sure a mid-90's Christopher Lambert vehicle holds much promise, but I suppose I'd be willing to give it a shot.

[mrsilkunderwear]

Shinobi?

[bowieee]

Chinese Super Ninjas is a classic ninja romp in the shaw brothers style.

Thanks God of War! I'm off to search for the sequel...

[thedudeman69]

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OMGROFL KID NINJAS ROFL

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by God of War

http://images2.dvdempire.com/gen/movies/1172660h.jpg Ryuhei Kitamura?

I'm there.

[Danger^Cart]

Okay, we get it, there are a lot of bad movies out there loosely or closely affiliated with Ninjas. I made this abundantly clear in my OP, and there's no need for further emphasis.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Freelance_Cube/AmericanNinja.jpg

Seriously, that's enough.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Freelance_Cube/AmericanNinja2.jpg

I'm not joking! Fucking cut it out!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Freelance_Cube/pirateninjajesus.jpg

Alright...that's just in poor taste. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

[mutesaint]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c14/Freelance_Cube/pirateninjajesus.jpg

Alright...that's just in poor taste. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

That is just fucking cool is what that is.

Oh and Azumi, while a good movie, isnt really a ninja movie. I mean there were only two ninja in the whole movie, and one of them was a monkey.

[Kings-Rook1]

I don't know about good but how about...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Ninjacheerleaders.jpg/200px-Ninjacheerleaders.jpg

You know you like it, and as an added bonus it stars George "Sulu" Takei as Sensi Hiroshi.

On a side note (and a little more serious); I have heard rumors of Shi being slated for a late 2007 release. Though not a ninja (yamabushi warrior specifically) it has some potential for near naked sneakiness from who ever gets tagged to take on the role.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Shis1fin.jpg/250px-Shis1fin.jpg

[The Pin]

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[parsonz]

yes it would be decent and nice if they do make a ninja movie there is a lot of things they can do with it and make it good also like many of the samurai films

[Tyler_Durden_208]

Originally posted by The Pin
Edited to save the children's eyes.
If you ever, ever make me randomly see Rob Schneider again, I will kill you where you sit.

[The Pin]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden_208
If you ever, ever make me randomly see Rob Schneider again, I will kill you where you sit.
http://www.girl.com.au/img/robschneider_hotchick.jpg

Well you're a daisy if you do. :D

[Tyler_Durden_208]

That's it. Tank, I need an op for killing The Pin, ninja style.
You can expect a forecast of justice in the near future.

[smok3h]

Surf Ninjas is amazing... one of the best films i've ever seen

[Mr.HyDe807]

Not really ninjas, but still mad crazy badass! (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1759446)

:cool:

[jackboom]

As an 80's kid, Sho Kosugi was the illest ninja around...anyways these are my favorite ninja flicks.

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/48078.1020.A.jpg

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/47523.1020.A.jpg

http://www.ninjadojo.com/ShogunsNinja/SHOGUNS2.JPG

[Gordon]

This does have a point if the answer is yes.

Did you ever play Ninja Gaiden, Danger?

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Gordon
This does have a point if the answer is yes.

Did you ever play Ninja Gaiden, Danger?

Best game Microsoft has released to date.

[TylerDurden182]

What about the Tenchu series? They were pretty sweet.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Best game Microsoft has released to date.

Alright, now, would you consider that a "serious" ninja movie, were it made into a movie?

Granted, the game was fucking trippy as hell and balls to the wall crazy, but when I say serious I mean as in a just entry into a more or less not (well) done subject matter?

[Danger^Cart]

I'd be down for a film in the spirit of Ninja Gaiden, whereas a Ninja with near supernatural (I'd ditch the use of magic for a movie treatment) skill battles everything under the sun in increasingly violent ways, but if history has taught us anything, it's that a straight video game to movie adaptation can and will suck mass quantities of metaphorical sack.

When I say serious Ninja movie, I mean a movie without gimmick or demographic that is more or less "historically accurate" (I say this very loosely). As in, a movie set in feudal Japan that deals as much with badass Ninja combat as it does with ancient loyalty and the Ninjutsu order. Is that too much to ask? Perhaps I'm aiming a bit high.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
I'd be down for a film in the spirit of Ninja Gaiden, whereas a Ninja with near supernatural (I'd ditch the use of magic for a movie treatment) skill battles everything under the sun in increasingly violent ways, but if history has taught us anything, it's that a straight video game to movie adaptation can and will suck mass quantities of metaphorical sack.

When I say serious Ninja movie, I mean a movie without gimmick or demographic that is more or less "historically accurate" (I say this very loosely). As in, a movie set in feudal Japan that deals as much with badass Ninja combat as it does with ancient loyalty and the Ninjutsu order. Is that too much to ask? Perhaps I'm aiming a bit high.

To be honest I give a lot of thought to video game adaptations. It is a wide open field that can, if pioneered by good directors, churn out movies as good as book-to-film adaptation. The thing is that there are two parts to any game - the repetitive bullshit action that you do over and over - and a fucking excellent (in the ones worth adapting) story. Now, sadly, people focus on the repetitive action for the entire movie. Most of the time, in fact, they ditch the original story and write their own based off the world. Big mistake. But that will be the last paragraph on that subject, hell I'll go start a thread for that specific purpose.

As far as making a serious ninja movie, in the sense you're talking about, was what I meant earlier. So we've defined "serious" as at most the ridiculous level of Tom Cruise as the last samurai. I'm gonna make a little assumption here and say, unfortunately for our asses ninja things weren't nearly as well documented as samurai exploits.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Gordon
To be honest I give a lot of thought to video game adaptations. It is a wide open field that can, if pioneered by good directors, churn out movies as good as book-to-film adaptation. The thing is that there are two parts to any game - the repetitive bullshit action that you do over and over - and a fucking excellent (in the ones worth adapting) story. Now, sadly, people focus on the repetitive action for the entire movie. Most of the time, in fact, they ditch the original story and write their own based off the world. Big mistake. But that will be the last paragraph on that subject, hell I'll go start a thread for that specific purpose.

As far as making a serious ninja movie, in the sense you're talking about, was what I meant earlier. So we've defined "serious" as at most the ridiculous level of Tom Cruise as the last samurai. I'm gonna make a little assumption here and say, unfortunately for our asses ninja things weren't nearly as well documented as samurai exploits.

Oh no, you got me all wrong. I'm not saying video games aren't worthy of adapting, I'm saying with what we've seen, Vegas odds would be against a studio pumping out anything decent. Saying video games aren't worthing of adapting is as ludicrous as saying comic books aren't worthy of adapting. People seem to forget that they're all essentially just stories, and whether a story is good or not relies more on the storyteller, and less on the actual story.

And yes, a Last Samurai-esque Ninja movie, in scope and approach, would be ideal for me. I'm not sure what you were getting at, but I for one fucking love that film.

[Gordon]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart

And yes, a Last Samurai-esque Ninja movie, in scope and approach, would be ideal for me. I'm not sure what you were getting at, but I for one fucking love that film.

I enjoy the hell out of it to, but I am the first to admit it was fucking ridiculous in many ways. Still realistic enough, in a way, to enjoy it. But I meant that a Ninja movie couldn't be any less realistic. That Last Samurai was about the most I would take before it got silly.

[EoghainFOKeeffe]

NINJA TERMINATOR has the double honour of being the worst movie I have ever seen and also the most incredibly entertaining. I dare anybody to watch the first five minutes of this movie and not fall to the floor with laughter.

Plus - I got it for seventy-five pence. Bargain-a-rama!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199849/

[Cyd V]

lol NINJA TERMINATOR TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SLsA_Opybw)

[martyds761]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
When I say serious Ninja movie, I mean a movie without gimmick or demographic that is more or less "historically accurate" (I say this very loosely). As in, a movie set in feudal Japan that deals as much with badass Ninja combat as it does with ancient loyalty and the Ninjutsu order. Do some research of how ninja's came to be man. You'll be very interested.

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by martyds761
Do some research of how ninja's came to be man. You'll be very interested.

Oh, I have. I fucking love Ninja. Why do you think I made this thread. I would sell my soul for Ninja powers.

And then kill every living thing in sight.

[Cyd V]

Originally posted by martyds761
Do some research of how ninja's came to be man. You'll be very interested.

It's too bad they never kept records of any of the shit Ninja did, in Japan it was considered dishonorable to use Ninja or train them or whatever.. Just like every country has spies and are involved in espionage, that type of shit will never be made public or be in the history books..

[Danger^Cart]

Very true, but you can still find a fairly consistent history of Ninja through Japanese folklore and stuff. Ninja are also fairly integral to Samurai history.

The life of perhaps the most famous Ninja, Hattori Hanzo (the name should sound familiar) is also fairly well documented.

[Tony_Montana]

Shogun Assasin? Just watched it today, loads of ninjas in that. Isn't that good but there's some entertainment to be had on a trashy level.

[Dead Halloween]

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/741/ninjamexur1.jpg
EL NINJA MEXICANO (Mexican Ninja)

I've never had the courage to rent this...

[Danger^Cart]

Originally posted by Tony_Montana
Shogun Assasin? Just watched it today, loads of ninjas in that. Isn't that good but there's some entertainment to be had on a trashy level.

Is that the fabled film featured in Kill Bill? If so, I must watch that.

LIKE THE NINJA, THIS THREAD SHALL NEVER DIE!!! (http://master-ninja.ytmnd.com/)

[psycheoutsteve]

Great idea for a thread here, I concur wholeheartedly with the idea of a serious Ninja flick. Batman Begins touched lightly on some of the ideas of the Ninja, but it would be nice to see a film that focused just on Ninjitsu.

[Danger^Cart]

In other news, I recently watched Shinobi ('05) and it was complete shit. Thus, my quest continues.

[Digifruitella]

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[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by Tony_Montana
Shogun Assasin? Just watched it today, loads of ninjas in that. Isn't that good but there's some entertainment to be had on a trashy level.

Shogun Assassin is the american edit of Lone Wolf & Cub movies, but it's not a ninja movie. Not to mention it's an edit of just the first two films, not all 6. It's a smurai saga - an awesome one. There are ninjas only in few scenes, and since its Shogun assassin, you must be talking about the scene in the forest.

If you want ninja movies check out what I posted above this.

[Danger^Cart]

Martial Arts Theater is the epitome of what I'm talking about. Horrible, horrible films, all of which I've seen.

[Cyd V]

Maybe Johnny Woo's NINJA GOLD will be the ninja flick we've all been waiting for.. It has the potential to be an amazing, clasic martial arts action flick or complete bunk like all his American made flicks..

[Danger^Cart]

I don't know...surely you can understand me being a little aprehensive about John Woo making a 'serious' ninja flick. Especially one to coincide with a video game release.

The plot isn't exactly traditional ninja either. It's more an allegory for modern special forces.

[Nima]

Has anyone seen the film "Shaolin Challenges Ninja"? I hear it's awesome.

[Digifruitella]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
Martial Arts Theater is the epitome of what I'm talking about. Horrible, horrible films, all of which I've seen.

Alright, well then you must be looking for something like Five Elements Ninja then. Shaw Brothers. Look into it.

Here's a scene to get your interest up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jfPTthtqG0

[Danger^Cart]

THIS THREAD SHALL NEVER DIE! NINJA ATTACK! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZdUcD2ASw0)

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Danger^Cart
THIS THREAD SHALL NEVER DIE! NINJA ATTACK! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZdUcD2ASw0)

That was actually pretty cool. Don't know why he had to kill the guy with a top hat and the smile though.

[Dirtyfrog]

Ninja 3 : the domination .... that's a classic