How To Get Out Of Jail?

[shoe1985]

Here (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/paris.hilton/index.html)

If I ever get put in jail, I am going to do what Paris did, or I will sue the state, jail system, or whoever.

This is such a joke, I am shocked she even went into jail.

If this were you or I doing what she did, we would be in for like 5-10 years without parole. Just shows how terrible the system is.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

But shoe, if our rich white girls are in prison, what ever are we to do?

[shoe1985]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
But shoe, if our rich white girls are in prison, what ever are we to do?

I guess we will have to go for the lower or middle class girls. I wouldn't let her near me ever. I would be afraid of getting some new disease, The Paris. It is a combination of herpes, aids, and a few other stds.

[Lynn7]

I just heard that Al Sharpton is organizing a protest- finally, he is applying himself to something really worthwhile. This was ridiculous. This sends a terrible message to everyone.

[shoe1985]

Originally posted by Lynn7
I just heard that Al Sharpton is organizing a protest- finally, he is applying himself to something really worthwhile. This was ridiculous. This sends a terrible message to everyone.

I don't like the guy, but if I was in California, where she lives, I would be front and center with him.

[ilovemovies]

Eh. While I understand that Paris is getting special treatment and she shouldn't and I'm not arguing otherwise, at the end of the day I just don't care. And I think people are getting too worked up about it.

[Scorpio24]

What cracks me up is people are getting more worked up over this nonsense than people getting off after doing far more serious crimes.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
What cracks me up is people are getting more worked up over this nonsense than people getting off after doing far more serious crimes.

Yep, I actually know a guy who ended up being a sex offender. Now I'm not exactly sure what he was charged with but he caused some damage to some kids. And he got out after only 5 years.

For a crime like that, THAT'S messed up.

[jeo4]

Unfortunately, this isn't nonsense. She is a very real threat every time she gets stoned and gets behind the wheel. She's a repeat offender ans she has no business on the road. Also, there are two threads going in Celeb Talk about this subject. Another one doesn't hurt, but I thought I'd share with everyone here so they had an opportunity to see them.

[shoe1985]

Originally posted by jeo4
Unfortunately, this isn't nonsense. She is a very real threat every time she gets stoned and gets behind the wheel. She's a repeat offender ans she has no business on the road. Also, there are two threads going in Celeb Talk about this subject. Another one doesn't hurt, but I thought I'd share with everyone here so they had an opportunity to see them.

Exactly. How do you know you won't be traveling on the road one night, and BOOM!!! You were struck by a stoned or drunk Paris Hilton, and you are now dead. She goes to jail for 5 years and then she will have it expunged from her record.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by shoe1985
Exactly. How do you know you won't be traveling on the road one night, and BOOM!!! You were struck by a stoned or drunk Paris Hilton, and you are now dead. She goes to jail for 5 years and then she will have it expunged from her record.

I don't mean to be the person coming off as defending her. What she has done is clearly wrong but I don't see this level of complaints or astonishment at other similar instances.

People have given examples of when they have know repeat offenders continualy get off with it. Go show your disgust at that as well.

I'm fed up of the holier than thou attitude in some of the threads about our they are disgusted at the justice system because of this. What a load of crock. Lets call a spade a spade it's because of the overwhelming hate for Paris Hilton that this is a such a big deal.

Otherwise assuming you were being serious about being right up there with good ole Al you often go and protest at the weak sentaces you feel make the justice system a joke as well I take it?

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by jeo4
Unfortunately, this isn't nonsense. She is a very real threat every time she gets stoned and gets behind the wheel. She's a repeat offender ans she has no business on the road. Also, there are two threads going in Celeb Talk about this subject. Another one doesn't hurt, but I thought I'd share with everyone here so they had an opportunity to see them.


Again not arguing the validity of you saying it's wrong. It clearly is. It's just with all the nonsense that's been spouted about how enraged people are about the justice system over this it's hard to tell if this is a stance from people in genral or they decided to wake up and decide they've always felt this way since the favourite whipping girl got off nearly scot free.

I haven't seen any "Our Justice sytem" is a joke threads in politics recently. Umn or ever in fact.

So i'll safely assume the majority of people haven't given it a seconds thought until that story come on the wire yesterday. Now it's all OMG THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INIT!!!!!1111!!!!!1

Was she wrong yes.
Is the sentance laughable yes.
Is the worse going on right now yes.
Do people care no.

[shoe1985]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Again not arguing the validity of you saying it's wrong. It clearly is. It's just with all the nonsense that's been spouted about how enraged people are about the justice system over this it's hard to tell if this is a stance from people in genral or they decided to wake up and decide they've always felt this way since the favourite whipping girl got off nearly scot free.

I haven't seen any "Our Justice sytem" is a joke threads in politics recently. Umn or ever in fact.

So i'll safely assume the majority of people haven't given it a seconds thought until that story come on the wire yesterday. Now it's all OMG THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INIT!!!!!1111!!!!!1

Was she wrong yes.
Is the sentance laughable yes.
Is the worse going on right now yes.
Do people care no.

Actually, a lot of people care about this now. If you have seen so many celebs get off like I know I have, it is time to take a stand. The punishment was a little strict, but lets look at what she did:

A lot of judges don't like it when:
1. You have a suspended license
2. You get pulled over twice for DUI
3. Arrive late to court
4. Keep partying it up when you should be trying to turn your life around after those previous DUIs.
5. From her actions, it seems she thinks this is all a joke.

Not being an ass or anything, but she had how many chances? What if she were to get in an accident while being drunk? She risks how many people's lives? People get sued, and they could come back and ask the courts why she was allowed to drive with this history of alcohol problems, you could say there were problems because she does it every night.

1. Suspended license - No jail, she needs to find a new way to get around.
2. Pulled over once for DUI - Ok, fine, we understand you may have forgotten about losing your license, warning.
3. 2nd time being pulled over for DUI - What is going on here? First you have no license, and you are driving drunk twice?
4. Arrive late to court - Is this a joke? You knew the time and you should up, what was it, like an hour late?

The judge probably just let it all grow and finally just layed one big punishment down.

[jeo4]

Scorpio, I can counter that post with the outrage at the OJ Simpson verdict, the riot in Los Angeles in 1992 when police were acquitted of beating Rodney King, and even as far back as Ted Kennedy's case in Chappaquiddick.

And I guarantee the same if Phil Spector walks free after the case against Lana Clarkson. At least I'll be irritated by it. And I don't think I'm alone on this either.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Again not arguing the validity of you saying it's wrong. It clearly is. It's just with all the nonsense that's been spouted about how enraged people are about the justice system over this it's hard to tell if this is a stance from people in genral or they decided to wake up and decide they've always felt this way since the favourite whipping girl got off nearly scot free.

I haven't seen any "Our Justice sytem" is a joke threads in politics recently. Umn or ever in fact.

So i'll safely assume the majority of people haven't given it a seconds thought until that story come on the wire yesterday. Now it's all OMG THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INIT!!!!!1111!!!!!1

Was she wrong yes.
Is the sentance laughable yes.
Is the worse going on right now yes.
Do people care no.


So we should just sit back and not care? This has little to do with her being our "whipping girl" (even though she actually does have fans, believe it or not). I think this could be the one thing that gets people to finally decide to take action. We're tired of this shit happening over and over again, and I think if we use this as a stepping stone some action could be taken.

And yes, there have been plenty of "our justice system is a joke" threads, you haven't been looking carefully enough.

[jeo4]

Oh yeah! I almost forgot about Michael Jackson, the rich child molester who got off! We had a huge thread about that.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by shoe1985
Actually, a lot of people care about this now. If you have seen so many celebs get off like I know I have, it is time to take a stand. The punishment was a little strict, but lets look at what she did:

A lot of judges don't like it when:
1. You have a suspended license
2. You get pulled over twice for DUI
3. Arrive late to court
4. Keep partying it up when you should be trying to turn your life around after those previous DUIs.
5. From her actions, it seems she thinks this is all a joke.

Not being an ass or anything, but she had how many chances? What if she were to get in an accident while being drunk? She risks how many people's lives? People get sued, and they could come back and ask the courts why she was allowed to drive with this history of alcohol problems, you could say there were problems because she does it every night.

1. Suspended license - No jail, she needs to find a new way to get around.
2. Pulled over once for DUI - Ok, fine, we understand you may have forgotten about losing your license, warning.
3. 2nd time being pulled over for DUI - What is going on here? First you have no license, and you are driving drunk twice?
4. Arrive late to court - Is this a joke? You knew the time and you should up, what was it, like an hour late?

The judge probably just let it all grow and finally just layed one big punishment down.

Look I agree with you I really do.

She deserved to have more time in prison. She didn't deserve the leniancy.

But she's out end of story. It's more of a big deal than an average Jo getting off with countless similar things.

It's a big deal because it's Paris.

[shoe1985]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Look I agree with you I really do.

She deserved to have more time in prison. She didn't deserve the leniancy.

But she's out end of story. It's more of a big deal than an average Jo getting off with countless similar things.

It's a big deal because it's Paris.

She might be going back. There is a trial going on right now that might send her back.

[Scorpio24]

Jeo i'll respond in one post save me replying to the three seperate post as they are all the same point essentialy.


There is a hell of alot of difference between A man who probably murdered his wife and her friend.

A bunch of raist policemen that beat a black man half to death.

A man that has possibly molested children

and

A young girl who had a sentance shortened for dui.

If you find the above similar there's no point continuing the conversation. Not trying to be arsey it's just I have no way of responding to anything you would say on that line.

Like I said above a young rich girl gets a lighter sentance for DUI.
Well blow me. There's probably several hundred people getting the same leniancy down town LA as we speak.

I think this could be the one that gets people to take action? Crap. Within a week people won't give a shit anymore.

It's tiresome listening to people use the celebrities as an example for a fcked up justice system. Normal people are getting off with shit to. Go make a noise about them to.

Oh I forgot you don't know them to hate them enough.

Carry on man. Like I said in celeb if you're spending this much time thinking/worrying about it you need something else going on in our life.

I can see it now: Paris Hilton haters torch millionaire mansions and rich lawyers office's in protest.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by shoe1985
She might be going back. There is a trial going on right now that might send her back.


Is there? I stopped following it a while back. Let's hope she does though. People can get back to their lives then. Maybe.

[jeo4]

"If you find the above similar there's no point continuing the conversation. Not trying to be arsey it's just I have no way of responding to anything you would say on that line."

That's not it at all. She is a DANGER to others and herself while she is out. I feel the same way about anyone who drinks and drives.

I was using these examples to point out that lots of people have expressed outrage at the justice system.

Right now, there is a high profile murder case going on in Kansas City and I hear about it every day. I think it sucks that police couldn't save Kelsey Smith, but they at least apprehended the suspect and he's going on trial. If he's convicted, his life is over.

If Paris Hilton kills someone by being reckless, I see that as every bit as bad. She outright doesn't give a shit whether she breaks the law. She's done it repeatedly, after repeated warnings! She belongs in jail, not at home whining at people to bring her shit 24/7. She's only off because she's rich. And THAT is my principle complaint about the judicial system.

[Vong]

Normally I wouldn't care about celebrity shit, especially when it concerns people like Paris. But when celebrities are getting special treatment in serving time, I get pissed...:mad:

[boombche_stum]

Personally, I don't really care. Is it wrong? Hell yeah. I got a good friend getting sent up state for two years for doing the same thing she did (2 DUI's)... his ass deserves it for being an idiot though. As far as the justice system being messed up, well of course it is. We've always known the rich could get away with more (Remember when Vince Niel KILLED a guy driving drunk and got the charges dropped), that's the just the way it is. And it wont change because of this.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Jeo i'll respond in one post save me replying to the three seperate post as they are all the same point essentialy.


There is a hell of alot of difference between A man who probably murdered his wife and her friend.

A bunch of raist policemen that beat a black man half to death.

A man that has possibly molested children

and

A young girl who had a sentance shortened for dui.

If you find the above similar there's no point continuing the conversation. Not trying to be arsey it's just I have no way of responding to anything you would say on that line.

Like I said above a young rich girl gets a lighter sentance for DUI.
Well blow me. There's probably several hundred people getting the same leniancy down town LA as we speak.

I think this could be the one that gets people to take action? Crap. Within a week people won't give a shit anymore.

It's tiresome listening to people use the celebrities as an example for a fcked up justice system. Normal people are getting off with shit to. Go make a noise about them to.

Oh I forgot you don't know them to hate them enough.

Carry on man. Like I said in celeb if you're spending this much time thinking/worrying about it you need something else going on in our life.

I can see it now: Paris Hilton haters torch millionaire mansions and rich lawyers office's in protest.


So what is your argument exactly? That we shouldn't be concerned over this kind of thing? I'm concerned with police brutality and whatnot but this also concerns me. The issue of how our justice system favors the rich overwhelmingly over the poor is a pretty big fucking deal, and hopefully if she serves her full sentence it will be a step in the right direction. I'm not interested in the juicy celeb gossip part of it, but I'm very concerned that our justice system will yet again fail to prevail. Since this particular case is getting so much news coverage, why can't I be concerned over the outcome?

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
So what is your argument exactly? That we shouldn't be concerned over this kind of thing? I'm concerned with police brutality and whatnot but this also concerns me. The issue of how our justice system favors the rich overwhelmingly over the poor is a pretty big fucking deal, and hopefully if she serves her full sentence it will be a step in the right direction. I'm not interested in the juicy celeb gossip part of it, but I'm very concerned that our justice system will yet again fail to prevail. Since this particular case is getting so much news coverage, why can't I be concerned over the outcome?

Let's say for example this is Meryl Streep that got caught DUI. She's sorry and apologetic. There would be no story. No outrage. No marching down the road with brn Paris banners. It's because of the hatred towards the little rich white girl that's it's such a big story. It's because she's crass, stupid and unresponsible that's it's a big story. Jack to do with the legal system.

When Gibson got caught DUi I read every post about how he is racist this that most of which I agreed with. I read not one thing saying he should be going to jail. Not a fucking one.

You know i'm out on this conversation it's takne up to much of my time already There are people that genuinely are angry that the justice system is fucked and this strory for them highlights it. Good for them. (No sarcasm) Then there are 90% of the people screaming blue murder over it when similar things probably happen every other week/month in their home town and they don't give a shit. It's Hilton so it's a big deal no other reason.

Your last line just about sums it perfectly up:

"Since this particular case is getting so much news coverage, why can't I be concerned over the outcome?"

Exactly because it's getting so much coverage otherwise i'm assuming you wouldn't have give a thought to the justice system or anything close to it today, yesterday or last week. Unless i'm doing you a dis-service and you like many others on the Joblo boards are down the local courthouse rallying up support and protesting the justice system when the countless thousands get nowhere near jail after their DUI's.

Like I said let's call a spade a spade here. The overwhelming hatred and hostility to Hilton for most is the ONLY reason this is such a big deal.


Peace to you all.

[shoe1985]

Scorpio24, this type of thing happens every night. A lot of the time nobody gets pulled over. You have to remember she was on probation and got pulled over two more times without the license. You her reputation, and you can turn on E! anytime of the week and the will have the latest thing going on in her life, which is usually of her driving around town with her friends after being at a party. In simple terms, she is saying a big FU to the law because she feels she is above it. Hell, she was acting cocky during the trial.

[Lynn7]

When I heard that Paris got out of jail I was outraged at how preference was shown to a rich person who could hire a psychiatrist etc. Then when she got sent back in, I noticed a shift in public opinion. People are starting to say she is getting too much time (40 days etc).

I am glad she went back in but I guess it isn't fair to double up her time for something the sheriff did by letting her out.

The thing I have seen though is that for someone who is so rich and has everything, she is a very weak individual. Also, when you look a the types of people she is surrounded with you just have to feel bad for her on some level. The life she is living may have priviliges but it has no depth. I would not want her life for anything.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by Lynn7
When I heard that Paris got out of jail I was outraged at how preference was shown to a rich person who could hire a psychiatrist etc. Then when she got sent back in, I noticed a shift in public opinion. People are starting to say she is getting too much time (40 days etc).

I am glad she went back in but I guess it isn't fair to double up her time for something the sheriff did by letting her out.

The thing I have seen though is that for someone who is so rich and has everything, she is a very weak individual. Also, when you look a the types of people she is surrounded with you just have to feel bad for her on some level. The life she is living may have priviliges but it has no depth. I would not want her life for anything.


I heard that the time she already served was actually counted toward her sentence. So she actually got some time off.

Paris chooses to live the vapid life she leads. She loves the LA nightlife and parties accordingly.

Notice that her sister, Nicky chose a different path. It wasn't enough for her to live off her family's wealth and party everynight, so she enrolled in FIT, got a degree in fashion, designed her own line of clothing and accessories and is doing very well for herself. She's also kept herself very low on the public radar because she's more interested in building a name for herself with honest work and serious goals, than going out clubbing every night of the week.


And there you have the good and bad side of fabulous wealth, all within the same generation.

[Lynn7]

Yes, you are right. NIcki seems like she has a good work ethic from what I have heard. She is in full support of Paris and her craziness though. I don't think I would be doing that for one of my brother's even if I loved them (which I do).