28 days/weeks Later The Zombie Flick??

[sezperai]

This is an argument my friend Jarod and I have had countless times with other people. For some strange reason it just crawls my ass when I hear someone refer to 28 days later as a zombie movie and then proceed to use that as the reason it sucked.

IE: Man that's fucking stupid, what kind of zombies run around like a bunch of crazed lunatics? Zombies are supposed to be all slow and stuff and those damn things were jumping through windows and running around like track stars and shit.


BAH...ignorant...

the reason they don't ACT like typical zombie movie zombies is because it's NOT A ZOMBIE MOVIE!!!

they have a VIRUS called RAGE....this is why they run around and just kill indiscriminately.

If you really want to criticize this movie...pick a good reason

such as, "it's a fucking movie about people who get a virus that makes them angry" hahaha


Jasn

[vesaker]

The confusion comes from the fact that they are supposed to have similar characteristics to Zombies but are not acctaully Zombies.

I agree with the idea that Zombies shouldn't really be running around and shit but thats more of a Dawn of the Dead remake beef, not to say i didn't enjoy the movie but you have to treat it as a new take on Zombies.

I think the worst depiction of Zombies imo was Land of the Dead, but yeah i meen if your ignorant enough to think that they are supposed to be Zombies in 28 Days/Weeks then you deserve any fanboy/ intelegent person backlash you would get from that line of thinking.

[jolanar]

Well people just aren't going to buy the slow moving zombies anymore. Because frankly there is no way that slow moving zombies could cause an apocalyptic event.

[The Pin]

Originally posted by vesaker
The confusion comes from the fact that they are supposed to have similar characteristics to Zombies but are not acctaully Zombies.

I agree with the idea that Zombies shouldn't really be running around and shit but thats more of a Dawn of the Dead remake beef, not to say i didn't enjoy the movie but you have to treat it as a new take on Zombies.

I think the worst depiction of Zombies imo was Land of the Dead, but yeah i meen if your ignorant enough to think that they are supposed to be Zombies in 28 Days/Weeks then you deserve any fanboy/ intelegent person backlash you would get from that line of thinking. Good call on Land of the Dead, one of the countless reasons I hate that movie.

[sezperai]

Originally posted by The Pin
Good call on Land of the Dead, one of the countless reasons I hate that movie.


I actually enjoyed LoTD....but I see what you guys mean.


and Pin..your AV still rocks


"i'm your huckleberry"

[sezperai]

Originally posted by vesaker

I agree with the idea that Zombies shouldn't really be running around and shit but thats more of a Dawn of the Dead remake beef, not to say i didn't enjoy the movie but you have to treat it as a new take on Zombies.



haha this is also a running joke amongst myself and my friends...
stemming from the little girl zombie (the first zombie we see) in the Dawn retelling

we say that we never knew becoming a zombie made you an acrobat of the dead as well.

after she popped up off the floor with amazing speed an agility...i half expected her to go Bruce Lee on the poor hubby...

jasn


as a side not and since DoTD is being mentioned....I like Ving Rhames and all...but if I hear "hell naw" from him one more time I think I may have to shoot somebody.

[teenkiller]

Although I realize they are not zombies I still refer to them as zombies out of habit. Them running fast really doesn't have any impact on disliking the film. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[APzombie]

running zombies date back further than 28 days later, I can't think of anything before it but Return of the Living Dead has the bitches running.

I still call it a zombie. Not every zombie film has to live by Romero's standards anymore than vampire films have to live by Broker's standards.

[WhatsInaName]

When someone who calls himself APzombie says something about zombies, you should listen.

I totally agree man.

[LordSimen]

They're zombie enough for me to call the movies Zombie movies. But to me, running Zombies arn't a bad thing. To me, they're actually scarier to me than slow moving zombies.

[therealjohng]

No.

[vesaker]

Originally posted by APzombie
running zombies date back further than 28 days later, I can't think of anything before it but Return of the Living Dead has the bitches running.


Oh come on now you and i both know those were some sort of "Super" zombies in RotLD, not to mention the fact that they run and can't seemed to be killed was all part of the satire of the movie was it not? I meen just go back to imo one of the greatest lines in at least Zombie movies.

"You said if i kill the brain that it would die!"

"well thats what they did in the Movies..."

"But what if the Movie lied??"

classic

Originally posted by jolanar
Well people just aren't going to buy the slow moving zombies anymore. Because frankly there is no way that slow moving zombies could cause an apocalyptic event.

i don't quite agree with this because the whole reason things go to shit in the Remero series atleast is cause no one knows whats going on at first and by the time they do its too late, where as if you got crazy psyco ppl running aropund eating others theres more time to do something (although it may not end up making a difference).

Also i alsways liked the slow moving ones better cause it was more suspensful. Its like sure they are there and they move slow so you think they are not much of a threat bu thats who they sneak up on ya. And regardless of how slow they would move they were always coming so it was jsut a matter of time till they got there, time to worry, time to sweat and there for more suspensful imo ;)

[Tony_Montana]

First off slow zombies > running zombies.

Second, although they aren't zombies, the film displays alot of the characteristics of the zombie genre. Therefore IMO it falls under "zombie movie", even if there are no actual zombies in it.

[teenkiller]

I also prefer the slow zombies though I have nothing against the fast ones either. Having a whole shitload of lethargic zombies just seems a lot cooler for some reason. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[sezperai]

Originally posted by APzombie
running zombies date back further than 28 days later, I can't think of anything before it but Return of the Living Dead has the bitches running.

I still call it a zombie. Not every zombie film has to live by Romero's standards anymore than vampire films have to live by Broker's standards.

I agree that not every zombie film has to follow Romero's standards...

HOWEVER, 28 days is in no way a "zombie" movie.


one of the primary characteristics of any zombie is that they are dead.

slow movie, fast moving blah blah blah is irrelevant. however the living or dead part is pretty major.

jasn

[The Pin]

Originally posted by sezperai
I actually enjoyed LoTD....but I see what you guys mean.


and Pin..your AV still rocks


"i'm your huckleberry" Haha thanks again man.

"Sorry Ike, maybe poker's not your game. I know! Let's have a spelling contest!" Ha fucking genius.

As for 28 days/weeks being a zombie movie or not, I always considered them to be a new breed of zombie. The infection is just the explaination that zombie movies some times have. The infected fit the bill, first they eat other people, secondly you can't reason with them because the only instinct they have left is eating people, and thirdly I'm pretty sure they are dead.

So anyway Superperfundo on the early eve of your day.

[Badbird]

Saying these weren't zombies is like telling me that 300 is not a comic book movie because it was based on a graphic novel. Technically you're right, but you have made such a nerd statement that if this were highschool, I would totally steal your lunch money for saying it.


Zombies, vampires, werewolves... who says they can't be what you want them to be? They aren't real.

[APzombie]

Originally posted by Badbird
Saying these weren't zombies is like telling me that 300 is not a comic book movie because it was based on a graphic novel. Technically you're right, but you have made such a nerd statement that if this were highschool, I would totally steal your lunch money for saying it.

haha.

Also the thing that made the Romero zombie films so classic wasn't just the base rules, but the fact that it never is the zombies that cause the frezy in the films, its lack of human cooperation. Thats what made it so scary. Running zombies pose a higher threat, but it kinda takes a little away from the basis of the survival horror aspect that rules this genre, survival horror with each other.

I don't really care what Danny Boyle says. Wes Craven gave the same delusion of grandure statement when he said New Nightmare was a psychological thriller, not a slasher.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by APzombie
haha.

Also the thing that made the Romero zombie films so classic wasn't just the base rules, but the fact that it never is the zombies that cause the frezy in the films, its lack of human cooperation. Thats what made it so scary. Running zombies pose a higher threat, but it kinda takes a little away from the basis of the survival horror aspect that rules this genre, survival horror with each other.

I don't really care what Danny Boyle says. Wes Craven gave the same delusion of grandure statement when he said New Nightmare was a psychological thriller, not a slasher.

Both the Dawn of the Dead remake and 28 Days Later, which had running, frenzying zombeis, still managed to have a lot of what you are describing there. The humans STILL turned on each other and could never see eye to eye, it's just the stakes were increased when the zombie action took place...

[Panda]

I believe, and I may be wrong, that the infected in 28 Days/Weeks Later, are not dead at all, but entirely the opposite. RAGE is like a super rabies that stimulates a human to the point of pure insanity and well...rage. The virus pushes the muscles and blood so much, they run fast as hell and spit out that blood. Also, another fact as to why the infected are alive, is that they eventually die, around the same time a normal human would without any food or substance. All this, strays away from the normal zombie characteristics.

[bigred760]

I consider them zombies, but that's just me. The success of the Romero movies set the standard for them, but they're still trying to eat those who are not like them. The fact that they're running and more athletic makes the movie that more suspenseful.

[chasingbanky]

I remember explaining my thoughts on this when the first of these two films was released here in the states.... In my eyes they are zombies... Are they the walking dead, or undead? No, not in the least. Are they mindless humans looking to do nothing other then prey on other humans? Yes.... In my eyes the zombie term is referring more to the mindless aspect then the undead aspect. Yeah they run, but that's because they aren't dead and have not gone through rigormortis, so they're as limber as they were before they were infected. This is my problem with the Dawn of the Dead remake, if they're fucking dead people they should not be running and jumping 40 feet in the air. Anyway call them the infected, or call them zombies, but just know those movies are awesome.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Hell naw. They're too good to be zombie movies.