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Bourne101
07-06-2007, 07:05 PM
http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/captivity-poster2.jpg
Directed by Roland Joffé
Genre: Thriller
Plot Outline: Top cover girl and fashion model, Jennifer Tree has it all - beauty, fame, money and power. Her face appears on covers of hundreds of magazines. At the top of her game, Jennifer is America's sweetheart. She is loved and adored and sought after. Everyone wants her. But someone out there has been watching and waiting. Someone wants her in the worst way. Out alone at a charity event in Soho, Jennifer is drugged and taken. Held captive in a cell, Jennifer is subjected to a series of terrifying, life-threatening tortures that could only be conceived by a twisted, sadistic mind. It follows the story of one woman who is abducted and tortured, held against her will in a place where days turn into weeks. (imdb)
Starring: Elisha Cuthbert, Daniel Gillies, Pruitt Taylor Vince and Laz Alonso.
Rated R for strong violence, torture, pervasive terror, grisly images, language and some sexual material.
Runtime: 85 minutes
I don't care what anyone says, this movie is going to be one hell of a good time. I am a fan of the so-called "torture porn" ( I think the term is overused way too much though), and I will be seeing this on opening day no doubt. Thrills, chills, hard R rating, Elisha Cuthbert.... I'M SOOOO FUCKING THERE.
thedudeman69
07-06-2007, 07:19 PM
It looks really fucking stupid to me and I don't think the controversy with the signs is going to help it much.
OMG ELISHA WITH A TUBE IN HER THROAT?!? PENIS METAPHOR?!?!
Scarfather
07-06-2007, 07:31 PM
So, so rarely does film truly just look outright dumb.
yorrick brown
07-06-2007, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by thedudeman69
OMG ELISHA WITH A TUBE IN HER THROAT?!? PENIS METAPHOR?!?!
she swallows:p .
this wasn`t to bad of a movie.if you like horrors (b-z grade)you`ll like this.elisha is a good actress and carries the movie well.the bit with the dog was abit yuck.
i gave it 7/10 but i like horrors.
teenkiller
07-06-2007, 08:51 PM
Well damn this looks great. I'm actually going to see this on opening night. Or at least opening weekend sometime. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
Cronos
07-06-2007, 09:00 PM
i thought it was a lot of fun, the acting was pretty damn good, there was some decent gore although i thought the dog scene was hilarious
8/10
Scarfather
07-06-2007, 09:48 PM
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Exaggeration.
But really? 7/8/10?
Are you guys serious? Why?
Moviefan02000
07-06-2007, 11:16 PM
I'll be seeing it in theaters, if only to see the new Halloween trailer, as well as the trailer for All the Boys Love Mandy Lane on the big screen. Other than that, it does look like crap but hey, it's only about 90 minutes.
Moviefan1234
07-07-2007, 06:42 AM
This looks horrible, how movies like this continue to make money is beyond me.
Bourne101
07-07-2007, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Scarfather
But really? 7/8/10?
Are you guys serious? Why?
Um.... because they liked it.
Moviefan02000
07-07-2007, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Moviefan1234
This looks horrible, how movies like this continue to make money is beyond me.
Because some people like them..
Scarfather
07-07-2007, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Bourne101
Um.... because they liked it.
Obviously. Clarification on what exactly was being liked is what I requested.
But good on you.
Moviefan1234
07-07-2007, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by Moviefan02000
Because some people like them..
Obviously, a few do. But the vast majority do not think very highly of movies like this. Everyone from people on here, to the people I work with, and my friends at college.
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 10:56 AM
Im skipping on this peice of shit.
After reading the ending and the whole concept behind it for 2 reasons.
1- The concept is fucking retarted aka motives? reasoning? whats the fucking point?
2- This movie doesnt even have a good twist ending you can guess everything there is to know from the trailers. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
Hostel 2 takes a shit on Captivity's face.
teenkiller
07-07-2007, 11:15 AM
Seems like this movie is to Saw what FRIDAY the 13th was to Halloween. If the one didn't exist neither would the other. But hey, I love FRIDAY the 13th so bring on Captivity! Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
chinton
07-07-2007, 04:40 PM
Looks so dumb.
Cronos
07-07-2007, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
Hostel 2 takes a shit on Captivity's face.
sorry but i can't stop laughing at that, Captivity is a bazillion times better than both Hostel's combined....in fact, combine everything Roth has donw, this film is a bazillion times better than that
Bourne101
07-07-2007, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
sorry but i can't stop laughing at that, Captivity is a bazillion times better than both Hostel's combined....in fact, combine everything Roth has donw, this film is a bazillion times better than that
Although I did like Hostel 2, I can always count on Cronos and his reviews and I trust that this movie is going to be a good time!
teenkiller
07-07-2007, 05:14 PM
Even though I am looking forward to the film I can't help but feel this film will tank. I think the general public is already tired of these films and we probably won't be seeing too many more of them from here on. I'm sure Saw will manage to crank out another three sequels though. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
Cronos
07-07-2007, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Bourne101
Although I did like Hostel 2, I can always count on Cronos and his reviews and I trust that this movie is going to be a good time!
while i despise nearly everything Roth has touched if you enjoyed the Hostel films i don't see why you wouldn't enjoy Captivity, it has a similar tone, the acting is better and probably has a similar amount of gore. the basic plot is engaging and yeah, while the end is predictible , so were the ends of both Hostel films
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
sorry but i can't stop laughing at that, Captivity is a bazillion times better than both Hostel's combined....in fact, combine everything Roth has donw, this film is a bazillion times better than that
HAHAHAHA... I pity the fool.
Seriously whats so great about this movie? The predictible and beyond fucking retarted twist? The amazing, but utterly piontless bloodshed? Wait... No!!!! I got it its the amazing concept that only a true mastermind can come up with! Yea... Thats it!
Come on... Just the concept of Hostel pwns this pointless piece of shit.
Hm... Torture factory in Europe...
Hm... Stalker stalks model and puts her through tests/ torture acts...
Well one of them sounds like a remake of saw. Only one of the two has a shitty twist that you see coming when you watch the trailers.
Atleast Hostel had an original premise and even those who hated it tend to agree that the last 30 minutes or so are tense. People who hate hostel 2 tend to still like the killers angle of the film, but in Captivity theres nothing to like because seriously who wants to see a 10 year olds version of Saw?
Cabin Fever takes a shit on this.
Hostel takes a shit on this.
Hostel 2 takes a shit on this.
Saw takes a shit on this.
Saw 2 takes a shit on this.
Hell even Saw 3 takes a shit on this.
13% on rotten tomatoes... The hostel films have over 50%.
Besides if any other director made Hostel you prob would have liked it since it seems you hate everything roth. If Roth makes the best film ever made, you would prob say it sucked.
Cronos
07-07-2007, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
HAHAHAHA... I pity the fool.
:rolleyes:
Seriously whats so great about this movie? The predictible and beyond fucking retarted twist? The amazing, but utterly piontless bloodshed? Wait... No!!!! I got it its the amazing concept that only a true mastermind can come up with! Yea... Thats it!
the exact same can be said about the Hostel's
Come on... Just the concept of Hostel pwns this pointless piece of shit.
the idea for Hostel is better than that of Captivity, but the resulting films definitely are not
Only one of the two has a shitty twist that you see coming when you watch the trailers.
errrrm, nope. Hostel 2 has one of the most laughable twists i've seen for a long time...and i could see it coming just from reading the films plot, i didn't even have to see the trailer
At least Hostel had an original premise and even those who hated it tend to agree that the last 30 minutes or so are tense.
again, i couldn't stop laughing during Hostel, none of it was tense...and people being tortured in abandoned warehouses is not very original
People who hate hostel 2 tend to still like the killers angle of the film
it could have been a good idea but the way it was handled was a joke....and the bidding scene was just terrible
Cabin Fever takes a shit on this.
Hostel takes a shit on this.
Hostel 2 takes a shit on this.
Saw takes a shit on this.
Saw 2 takes a shit on this.
Hell even Saw 3 takes a shit on this.
the Saw films do, CF and H1-2 definitely do not
13% on rotten tomatoes... The hostel films have over 50%.
i couldn't care less what critics thought of it
Besides if any other director made Hostel you prob would have liked it since it seems you hate everything roth. If Roth makes the best film ever made, you would prob say it sucked.
if Roth was even close be being a good writer or director i wouldn't have a problem with his films. if he grew up and actually wrote something that wasn't filled with immature/childish dialogue and flat out ridiculous scenes and managed to get something close to a performance out of the actors....sadly i doubt he'll ever manage to achieve any of those
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
if Roth was even close be being a good writer or director i wouldn't have a problem with his films. if he grew up and actually wrote something that wasn't filled with immature/childish dialogue and flat out ridiculous scenes and managed to get something close to a performance out of the actors....sadly i doubt he'll ever manage to achieve any of those
And Captivity is that mature film that Roth is incapable of making?
Please...:rolleyes:
Cronos
07-07-2007, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
And Captivity is that mature film that Roth is incapable of making?
Please...:rolleyes:
errrm, i never said it was
Riggs
07-07-2007, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Scarfather
Obviously. Clarification on what exactly was being liked is what I requested.
But good on you.
The film
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 08:02 PM
Cronos
Then what is it? If its not a mature horror movie, which you hate Roth because he is incapable of making mature horror flicks.
And you're saying Roth is capable of making this movie than doesnt that mean this movie is "filled with immature/childish dialogue and flat out ridiculous scenes..."
You hate Roth's movies because their "immature" yet you like Captivity, which I doubt is a mature and fresh take on teh genre.
Riggs
07-07-2007, 08:02 PM
You need to calm the fuck down n go get a girlfriend to watch future movie releases with. ^
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Riggs
You need to calm the fuck down n go get a girlfriend to watch future movie releases with. ^
What does that even mean? Why dont you keep you're mouth shut unless you have anything useful to add to the discussion.
Riggs
07-07-2007, 08:05 PM
Haha - fuck off idiot
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Riggs
Haha - fuck off idiot
Haha someones getting banned today:)
yorrick brown
07-07-2007, 08:16 PM
its just a horror movie not schindler's list.
i`m guessing NightStalkerGtx doesn`t like horrors? but thats no need to tell him to f--k off.
this is a movie board people aren`t going to argee with you on every movie.
i think riggs you need to grow up.
teenkiller
07-07-2007, 08:22 PM
Dammit... now this thread is going to get shut down. Why couldn't you just agree/disagree in a more mature way Riggs? I understand you're new around here but come on.
Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by yorrick brown
its just a horror movie not schindler's list.
i`m guessing NightStalkerGtx doesn`t like horrors?
Not True I love Horror flicks. My problem with Cronos arguement is simple.
He hates Roth because he can't make mature flicks and he is incapable of doing so.
Yet he says Captivity could have been made by Roth.
Well at that point the conclusion can be drawn that since Roth can make this film this isnt a mature film.
But anyways in more simple terms. Captivity isnt mature and it would be a mistake to consider it to be a mature take on the horror genre. So if you hate Hostel for not being mature why on earth do you like Captivity if it isnt mature?
yorrick brown
07-07-2007, 08:41 PM
is captivity more mature then hostel? sh-t i don`t know lol.
i wouldn`t call these type of horrors mature (saw,cap,hostel.) i would say the ring,angel heart,the eye are. they`re just mindless gory movies where you can leave your brain at the door and have a few scares for 80 min`s.
LordSimen
07-07-2007, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by yorrick brown
is captivity more mature then hostel? sh-t i don`t know lol.
i wouldn`t call these type of horrors mature (saw,cap,hostel.) i would say the ring,angel heart,the eye are. they`re just mindless gory movies where you can leave your brain at the door and have a few scares for 80 min`s.
I havn't seen Captivity yet but I never once felt I had to "leave my brain at the door" to watch Saw and Hostel. Lots of intelligent commentary can be found within the two films.
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by yorrick brown
is captivity more mature then hostel? sh-t i don`t know lol.
i wouldn`t call these type of horrors mature (saw,cap,hostel.) i would say the ring,angel heart,the eye are. they`re just mindless gory movies where you can leave your brain at the door and have a few scares for 80 min`s.
Okay what you're saying is fine, (even though I think Hostel is smart and mature)
All I wanna know is, say if both Hostel and Captivity "are immature", what makes Captivity a good immature movie and Hostel a bad one?
Cronos
07-07-2007, 08:50 PM
i'm making this my last post on this stuff regarding Roth....i also spent far too long on this post before and have spent too long on completely re-editing it
Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
He hates Roth because he can't make mature flicks and he is incapable of doing so.
i hate Roth for reasons that have nothing to do with the films he's made, part of why i don't like the Hostel films is because they seem to want to be serious but are filled with immature shitty jokes and dialogue
Yet he says Captivity could have been made by Roth.
again, i never said that...i hate it when people assume i mean something which i never stated which is why i replied to the previous post with that i never said it.
to answer the previous question that i didn't properly answer, "And Captivity is that mature film that Roth is incapable of making?"
ok, i have a problem calling any of these types of films "mature" horror since they aren't. the immaturity of Roth's films comes from his writing, the constant shitty jokes and conversations the characters have, so in respect to the writing id have to say yes, yes it is (and that will be the case until Roth writes something without the above) since it doesnt have many, if any jokes and certainly doesn't have the same type of conversations as his films
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 08:57 PM
^^ got rid of your comment so I got rid of mine. Sorry for the space taken up.
yorrick brown
07-07-2007, 08:58 PM
i`m gonna leave this to you and cronos.to duke it out:D .
killing words is a smart mature horror.as for hostel i don`t really remember it that well and i haven`t seen part 2.
NightStalkerGtx
07-07-2007, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
i'm making this my last post on this stuff regarding Roth....i also spent far too long on this post before and have spent too long on completely re-editing it
i hate Roth for reasons that have nothing to do with the films he's made, part of why i don't like the Hostel films is because they seem to want to be serious but are filled with immature shitty jokes and dialogue
again, i never said that...i hate it when people assume i mean something which i never stated which is why i replied to the previous post with that i never said it.
to answer the previous question that i didn't properly answer, "And Captivity is that mature film that Roth is incapable of making?"
ok, i have a problem calling any of these types of films "mature" horror since they aren't. the immaturity of Roth's films comes from his writing, the constant shitty jokes and conversations the characters have, so in respect to the writing id have to say yes, yes it is (and that will be the case until Roth writes something without the above) since it doesnt have many, if any jokes and certainly doesn't have the same type of conversations as his films
How can you say Roth's dialouge is filled with shitty immature jokes... Um his charactors are 18 year old pot heads in amsterdamn trying to get laid. Theres more dialouge in 10 minutes of hostel than there is in the entire length of captivity which is just Elisha Cuthbert pleading and screaming.
I dont feel like argueing anymore agree to disagree, but I dont know what kind of dialouge you expect when watching 18 year old pot heads talk.
Roth has created more tension in 1 minute of Hostel than Captivity does in 85 minutes.
Captivity is a shitty remake of Saw with a diffirent name and a shittier twist.
Hostel is a straight-foward horror flick that pulls no punches and doesnt try to come up with an insane twist ending. Hostel was one gaint tension filled ride from start to beginning that does not rely on twists to get good reviews or stun the audiance.
teenkiller
07-07-2007, 10:22 PM
Man I can't wait until I see this flick so I can add my $00.02 on the film. Too bad I'll have to wait until NEXT weekend dammit! Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
XCoRyX
07-08-2007, 12:55 PM
Even as a horror fan, I can't say this looks too good. Just not my cup of coffee I guess...
ilovemovies
07-08-2007, 02:19 PM
Looks like a lame Saw ripoff.
Elisha Cuthbert has been on such a role lately. It be a shame if this movie ends up ruining that. But it looks like it will.
Riggs
07-09-2007, 05:06 AM
7/10
Good movie, better than Saw 1 2 or 3.
NightStalkerGtx
07-09-2007, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by Riggs
7/10
Good movie, better than Saw 1 2 or 3.
How so?
Fisting Ackbar
07-10-2007, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by NightStalkerGtx
How so?
Don't think he's in any position to answer your question...
Oh, and apparantly this movie hit the web. (http://www.vcdreview.com/info.php/i-72606.html)
someguy
07-10-2007, 11:39 PM
Spoilers (if you really care, you shouldn't)
Captivity is the worst film I have seen this year. A boring, stupid, childish and horrific mess of a movie.
Of course, I can't just sum it all up with those two sentences. I read that the movie went through a massive amount of reshoots including a new ending, but for all I know this could be the original version. What I watched was entirely different from the promotional materials given out on the movie so far.
However, if this is the true cut then I have to clear this up right now. Captivity is not a 'torture porn' movie as people call it. It's actually a terrible run of the mill thriller. Is it a copy of Saw? Absolutely, in fact the cop aspect of the film is like a shortened version of the Saw storyline. It's just weird that the booby trap aspect of the Saw movies, probably the only interesting aspect of those movies, was not even bothered with.
The plot is pretty much a cut and paste from Saw. Two people are locked in a room, someone is watching them with cameras. Rather than use traps, the killer just preys on their fears and weaknesses until he simply murders them in a not so pleasant fashion. At the same time the police are looking for Elisha Cuthbert's model character who is one of those two kidnapped people.
Now, I consider myself pretty bad at predicting the killer in any mystery. For some reason, the director decided to make it a lot easier for the viewer to guess in here. A good example is when the killer shows Cuthbert a videotape of her passed out from chloroform in his car. The camera pans over and shows someone driving the wheel with both hands. Anybody with a twentieth of a brain can figure out the 'shocking twist' coming later on from that. Here's a nice tip to the casting director also: Don't cast your killer as someone with a very noticeable facial feature. I basically had the entire film figured out before it was a quarter of the way through.
Larry Cohen wrote this movie, but I'm just going to assume that his co-writer did the majority of it. I just can't believe that he would do something this horrible. Other than trying to escape, I don't think Cuthbert reacts the way anyone else would in her situation. Plus, there's even a sex scene in the movie! Who in their right mind would fuck a stranger while trying to avoid being murdered brutally? At this point I can only assume that Cuthbert is hiding the fact that she is legally retarded. It would be a better twist than the ones shown in the movie. It's just terrible and lazy writing combined with badly stylized direction which, honestly, ended up being exactly what I expected out of this film. I only gave it a chance because of the past work from the director and writer, something I'll be regretting (and hopefully they'll be regretting the decision to make this).
Once I finished watching Captivity, I wished that I could have watched one of the Hostel or Saw films instead. And that is probably the worst thing I can ever say about it.
3/10
Frank the Tank
07-11-2007, 03:07 AM
So, is this movie even worth watching for the so bad it's good vibe. Cause the clip I saw with the killer feeding Elisha with a tube and the terrible acting displayed their points me to that.
teenkiller
07-11-2007, 09:18 AM
Yeah that clip really elevated my interest. It's like they said let's copy Saw but go more extreme. I can't wait to see what other dumb ass ideas they come up with in their cheap attempts to shock the viewer. Since I'm going into it expecting it to be bad I'm sure that will make it much easier to watch. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
someguy
07-11-2007, 11:26 AM
The version I saw had no tubes going near Elisha whatsoever. In fact, all the 'gore' clips released online weren't in the movie at all.
Bourne101
07-11-2007, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by someguy
The version I saw had no tubes going near Elisha whatsoever. In fact, all the 'gore' clips released online weren't in the movie at all.
Did you by any chance watch the version that was leaked onto the internet? Just wondering, because I have that version, but don't want to watch it if it is not the one released in theatres.
someguy
07-11-2007, 11:39 AM
Yes, I never planned to spend money on it.
Cronos
07-11-2007, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by someguy
In fact, all the 'gore' clips released online weren't in the movie at all.
yes they are
someguy
07-11-2007, 01:32 PM
This is what I was thinking, one of us saw the original cut. Would you mind PMing or just posting on here with spoiler warnings a kind of detailed version of what happens in your cut? I'll show what happened in the version I saw first if you want.
Cronos
07-11-2007, 03:46 PM
general run through of scenes
MAJOR SPOILERS
guy tied to chair, injected, head put in plaster cast, stuff with liquid, killed
Title
killer cutting letters for scrapbook
cuts between killer driving in car and Cuthbert at photoshoot
Cuthbert in changing room talks on phone and feeding dog
Nightclub scene, people don't turn up feeling ill etc
Cuthbert wakes up in room, window projection turns off, freaks out
draw opens, glass with vitamins, throws at wall, messes the room up
gasses her
the "shower" scene
wakes up, face in bandages, fine underneath
opens locker, finds items, loud noise and bright light, hides under bed
gets in ventilation system, knocks her out with injection
the "blender" scene
discovers guy in next room, scratching words, talking etc cutting back and forth to killer watching them, making scrapbook, gassing rats
tray opens, matches and cup with sand and "The Hanged Man" card
knocks her out again
sand box scene
break into garage/tries to escape in car scene and gets knocked out by gas again
dog scene
another dog behind mirror, dress in locker
opens door between rooms, video of other victim, smashes cameras
wakes up, both in chairs, hands tied together
odd video of kid killing mother
the "teeth" scene
sex scene
guy wakes up, leaves room, we find out he's a part of it
talks to fat guy in bath about that he shouldn't smash cameras etc
fat guy makes food and gets stabbed
NYPD at door, talking, find live stream on tv, he kills both cops
goes back to Cuthbert, they "escape" from room
she finishes off cop thinking its the killer
he goes off getting rid of/cleaning evidence
she finds scrapbooks and that he's a part of it
dying fat guy attacks her pulls knife out of him, tries to get out of house but can't
guy comes back, sprays him in face, chase through house
final confrontation with shotgun and kills him
leaves house
end
END SPOILERS
someguy
07-11-2007, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
MAJOR SPOILERS
guy tied to chair, injected, head put in plaster cast, stuff with liquid, killed
Title
killer cutting letters for scrapbook
cuts between killer driving in car and Cuthbert at photoshoot
All of this is in the cut I saw save for the photoshoot. It splices in footage of her being interviewed for TV naming her fears.
Cuthbert in changing room talks on phone and feeding dog
Nightclub scene, people don't turn up feeling ill etc
Cuthbert wakes up in room, window projection turns off, freaks out
draw opens, glass with vitamins, throws at wall, messes the room up
gasses her
the "shower" scene
wakes up, face in bandages, fine underneath
opens locker, finds items, loud noise and bright light, hides under bed
No scene with her in the changing room. There is no nightclub scene either, she just wakes up in her room and sees what happened at the night club from one of the killer's videotapes. No shower scene or bandaged face scene. After messing the room up in my cut, the scene with her hiding under the bed begins.
gets in ventilation system, knocks her out with injection
the "blender" scene
discovers guy in next room, scratching words, talking etc cutting back and forth to killer watching them, making scrapbook, gassing rats
tray opens, matches and cup with sand and "The Hanged Man" card
knocks her out again
sand box scene
There is no blender scene in my cut, it just has her wake up in bed after he injects her in the vent. There is no sand box scene either, he just knocks her out and she wakes up in the room again.
break into garage/tries to escape in car scene and gets knocked out by gas again
dog scene
another dog behind mirror, dress in locker
opens door between rooms, video of other victim, smashes cameras
wakes up, both in chairs, hands tied together
odd video of kid killing mother
the "teeth" scene
sex scene
guy wakes up, leaves room, we find out he's a part of it
talks to fat guy in bath about that he shouldn't smash cameras etc
fat guy makes food and gets stabbed
The dog scenes don't happen, no teeth scene also. The sex scene happens, then we find out he's a part of it. Do you mean talks to fat guy in a bath robe or in the bathroom, because he talks to him in the kitchen. The stabbing does happen though.
NYPD at door, talking, find live stream on tv, he kills both cops
goes back to Cuthbert, they "escape" from room
she finishes off cop thinking its the killer
he goes off getting rid of/cleaning evidence
she finds scrapbooks and that he's a part of it
dying fat guy attacks her pulls knife out of him, tries to get out of house but can't
guy comes back, sprays him in face, chase through house
final confrontation with shotgun and kills him
leaves house
end
All of this happens in the movie. I'm amazed they would keep the third act intact, I thought it was the worst part of the movie.
Alright, that clears things up. Thanks.
Cronos
07-11-2007, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by someguy
Do you mean talks to fat guy in a bath robe or in the bathroom, because he talks to him in the kitchen. The stabbing does happen though.
before the scene with them talking in the kitchen and the fat guy making some food they're in the bathroom with the fat guy in the bath, he tells the other guy that he shouldnt have smashed the cameras, gets out of the bath and puts the robe back on
interesting though that those scenes weren't in the version that you saw
someguy
07-11-2007, 04:49 PM
It might have been the cut at the Stiges fest which Arrow reviewed.
Cronos
07-11-2007, 05:05 PM
had a read through his review and i expect it probably was, i'd completely forogtten that this had gone through some reshoots
CreeperBEATNGU
07-13-2007, 06:01 PM
I thought Elisha was going to be pretty bland, but she had a good arc by the end about overcoming shallow tendencies, Beltrami's score is very kinetic and unconventional, it's twisted and relentless, and how can you go wrong with the cinematographer of both the original TCM and the remake.
I could've used a bit more info on the villain, but a solid torture/isolation film. Better than I expected.
Bourne101
07-13-2007, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Cronos
had a read through his review and i expect it probably was, i'd completely forogtten that this had gone through some reshoots
Yeah, in his "gore" section, he says there is barely any, which from what my friend who saw it last night said, is not the case. There is gore and plenty of it in the theatrical cut.
CreeperBEATNGU
07-13-2007, 07:40 PM
Yes, it's pretty gory.
teenkiller
07-13-2007, 09:50 PM
Arrow's review of the film was extremely negative so that is kind of a downer. Still I am heading to the midnight showing at my local theatre in about an hour. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
ilovemovies
07-13-2007, 09:54 PM
Berardinelli gave the movie Zero Stars. Now I HAVE to see it! :D
I thought this was suppose to be wide but I didn't get this movie. Infact, I don't think anywhere in the entire Philly area got it.
teenkiller
07-13-2007, 10:19 PM
You're from Philly? No shit. They are playing it at the AMC Neshaminy 24 theatre in Neshaminy Mall. That's where I'm headed soon. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
hazelnutcreme
07-13-2007, 11:17 PM
I really want to see this. I was looking forward to seeing it today because I finally have money for a change but it's not at our theater!
teenkiller
07-14-2007, 01:53 AM
Well for anyone who cares you can read my review in the HORROR (http://joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112176) section so I'm not going to repeat everything. Yeah there was definitely some gore but it wasn't enough to save the film. My advice would be to avoid it and this is coming from someone who was heavily anticipating it. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.
chinton
07-14-2007, 05:29 PM
I'm amazed amazed that this film is getting good reviews on the site.
First thing could somebody explain where this supposed amazing character arc is with the Cuthbert character. She's a model and is afraid of the dark and is lonely. That is it. There is really no arc to her character. You barely get to know anything about her. Then there's the guy next to her who is thinner than she is. I did not buy their relationship at all. It was pretty stupid. And then when the killer is revealed you barely know anything about him.
The movie is vague repetitve and dull. I think it wants to believe that it's a smart film about people's fears or something. Don't believe it. Girl gets captured and tortured and thats it. Its essentially the same 15 minutes scene repeated over and over. Cuthbert gets angry gets gassed tortured some and then put back in the cell. Rinse and repeat.
There's nothing to this movie. It looks kind of good, but it's also dull and forgettable and thin.
1/10
franky4fingerz
07-18-2007, 02:22 PM
piece of shit movie.It seemed like the kind of film that should be released in that horrorfest bullshit. 1/10
Bourne101
07-18-2007, 02:43 PM
Going to see it tonight because I have nothing to do. Hopefully it's not as bad as everyone says it is.
Superplasmatron
07-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Bourne101
Going to see it tonight because I have nothing to do. Hopefully it's not as bad as everyone says it is.
at least it has her out of 24 in it
ilovemovies
07-18-2007, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
at least it has her out of 24 in it
Eh. I'm in the minority, but I actually wouldn't mind seeing Cuthbert back on 24.
Bourne101
07-19-2007, 03:19 PM
Captivity - 7/10
Did I see the same version as everyone else? Because this movie was one hell of a good time! It's not great by any means, but it delivers exactly what I wanted it to, entertainment. I can see why people wouldn't like it, but I just don't see why SO many people don't like it. And lets get one thing straight, this is a kidnap thriller, not torture porn. There are really only two scenes of bloody torture, one in which it doesn't even involve wounding the victim, and the other is just a pulled tooth. The rest of the action is stabbings, gunshot wounds, some claustrophobic traps and a blown up dog (nice!). It is simply a kidnap thriller, nothing more, nothing less. The acting is pretty solid, and there were no performances that upset me in any way. The directing was OK, but after all the editing this movie had to go through, I can see why it wasn't as good as it could have been. Overall, a fun, intense, suspensful, well acted and entertaining thriller that although is not in the same genre category as Hostel and Hostel: Part II, is easily better than both of those films.
MadsenOMC
07-19-2007, 04:29 PM
Does a movie need to feature a lot of actual torture on screen to be considered torture porn?
someguy
07-19-2007, 05:00 PM
Well, it certainly helps.
MadsenOMC
07-19-2007, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by someguy
Well, it certainly helps.
Well yes of course. But isn't it really just a concise way to describe a new wave of modern horror flicks? Also, I haven't seen Captivity but from the numerous reviews I've read it certainly sounds like torture porn to me.
someguy
07-19-2007, 05:36 PM
It was never really intended as torture porn, it came off like making a violence less Saw with one of those Kiss the Girls type films. Once the test screenings came back saying it was complete shit (which it is), they went back and shot extra scenes to make it more like a torture porn movie.
MadsenOMC
07-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Yeah I'm familiar with the reshoots and changes to the movie (which certainly didn't pay off). Now they might wish they had changed it to a PG-13.
ilovemovies
08-18-2007, 07:51 PM
SOME MINOR SPOILERS!
I think I saw the same version someguy saw except there was the sandbox scene.
But in the version I saw there was almost no gore to speak of.
Reading James Berardinelli's review of the movie I expected a lot more gore and torture in the movie. Either the version I just saw was different or I don't understand what his beef was at all.
I actually found the movie to be pretty gripping even if things get a little silly at the end. And yes, during the sex scene I kept thinking why would they be having sex when they know the killer is watching. That was pretty absurd. As for the twist? I saw it coming a mile away but it didn't detract from the movie I thought.
I was expecing the worse with this movie but I got to say I was pleasantly surprised. Despite it's flaws, it wasn't bad at all. Elisha Cuthbert was very good in the movie.
yorrick brown
08-18-2007, 08:29 PM
i liked it .i`m gonna buy it on dvd.
ilovemovies
08-18-2007, 08:37 PM
But the question is, which version will be released on dvd? Or will both be released?
yorrick brown
08-18-2007, 08:47 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i217/Pablo_topo/album%20reached/captivity.jpg
i`ll pay the extra for the zone 1.as i enjoyed this movie.no mention of elisha on the cover?is she box office poison.she was really good in this.
Cronos
08-18-2007, 08:50 PM
i really hope that's not what the final cover looks like, the banner at the top is fucking hideous
CreeperBEATNGU
08-18-2007, 09:00 PM
I think all of After Dark's films have that on top.
someguy
08-18-2007, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by ilovemovies
Reading James Berardinelli's review of the movie I expected a lot more gore and torture in the movie. Either the version I just saw was different or I don't understand what his beef was at all.
What we saw was the original cut at the 06 Stiges festival. Arrow saw the same cut. After hearing the negative word on the film from the fest and test screenings, they went back and did reshoots which included the extra gore.
Addi88
08-19-2007, 12:21 AM
Never has an unrated dvd tagline been so true.
This movie was ass. 'Nuff said.
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