I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry

[Bourne101]

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Directed by Dennis Dugan

Genre: Comedy

Tagline: They're as straight as can be, but don't tell anyone.

Plot Outline: Two straight, single Brooklyn firefighters (Sandler, James) pretend to be a gay couple in order to receive domestic partner benefits.

Starring: Adam Sandler, Kevin James, Jessica Biel and Steve Buscemi.

Rated PG-13 for crude sexual content throughout, nudity, language and drug references. (re-rated; originally rated R)

Runtime: 110 minutes

I personally love most Sandler movies, and this one looks pretty damn funny. I will definitely be checking it out.

[teenkiller]

Over the years I have really grown tired of Sandler. I have seen the preview a couple of times and neither him nor James (who I usually find entertaining) look particularly funny. I'm sure it will make at least another $120 million at the box office though as all of Sandler's films seem to have done lately. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Moviefan1234]

This looks absolutely terrible. I'll pass and save myself the torture.

[Lazy Boy]

I actually cringed and closed my eyes during the trailer, it looks that bad. No thanks.

[dman476]

Originally posted by Lazy Boy
I actually cringed and closed my eyes during the trailer, it looks that bad. No thanks.
Oh, boy, then you've certainly missed the feast that is Jessica Biel's ass. :p

I will be watching it for her...

[Dom Shady]

I caught the trailer before Transformers....doesn't look funny and all the jokes in the trailer got no reaction from the audience except that last one where Sandler touches Biel's tits and says "yuckie".

[teenkiller]

Originally posted by dman476
Oh, boy, then you've certainly missed the feast that is Jessica Biel's ass. :p

I will be watching it for her...

That one scene with Biel is probably the only reason to watch this and even that won't make up for 100 minutes of garbage. If she ain't getting naked (which she won't) then I won't waste my time. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

While I have also grown tired of Sandler, I think that this looks like a horrible and tasteless movie regardless of his involvement. Perhaps this material would seem funnier if it were released a few years ago, but the jokes in the trailer are so poorly rehashed, everytime I hear Adam Sandler exclaim "Yucky!" after touching Jessica's Biels I cringe, violently.

[thedudeman69]

This looks like a really bad sitcom idea. I love Sandler's early 90's comedies like Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore or even Big Daddy, but my god, this looks really unfunny and really just majorly cringe inducing.

[Bourne101]

Jeez, no one interested in this one. I was interested from the moment Sandler slapped James in the face and said "That's how we role in our house baby!"

[Superplasmatron]

this looks so fucking shit, but i guess the studio thought it good, but why why why, did adam sandller, even ben stiller would turn down a film like this.

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
why why why, did adam sandller

Because he acts in films that the general public will go see and enjoy. You do not know how many people love movies like this. That is why they continue to make a lot of money.

[Mentiroso]

Yeah I wont go see this in theater but it will make a good rental. It will probably do pretty good at the BO though, nothing huge but good for a Sandler flick.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by Bourne101
Because he acts in films that the general public will go see and enjoy. You do not know how many people love movies like this. That is why they continue to make a lot of money.


this film looks shit, really shit, click was shit, people who want to see this movie must be retarded.

I love sandler, The wedding singer and punch drunk love are fantastic films, this is just the worst premise for a film, I even enjoyed little nicky and mr deeds on many occasions, I'm not anti him, I'm just disapointed that this film even got made let alne with him.

[teenkiller]

Gay marriage has become such a hot topic in America over the last few years that it was inevitable that someone would try to make a movie about it. Why that person had to be Adam Sandler I don't know. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[ilovemovies]

I've always thought Jessica Biel is obviously extremely gorgeous and hot but I just saw her on Jay Leno and I'm officially in love with her! I just adore her.

Oh and I appear to be in the minority but I think the movie looks hilarious.

[Scarfather]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
this film looks shit, really shit, click was shit, people who want to see this movie must be retarded.


Wow.

[dman476]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I've always thought Jessica Biel is obviously extremely gorgeous and hot but I just saw her on Jay Leno and I'm officially in love with her! I just adore her.

Oh and I appear to be in the minority but I think the movie looks hilarious.
Did she look good on Leno?
I'll have to catch that...

She's so gorgeous really, Timberlake is a lucky dude (but I've grown to appreciate him over the year, with dick in the box, Alpha Dog, and Snake Moan).

[ilovemovies]

Of coarse she looked great. But it was more than that. Her personality. She seems like such a great, cool gal. She seriously seems like the kinda girl I could really fall in love her!

And she even has a surprisingly great singing voice.

:cool:

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
this film looks shit, really shit, click was shit, people who want to see this movie must be retarded..

I saw Click and I have a very good IQ of 107.

[Preston_79]

Movie Looks great! Anyone who doesn't want to see this movie is a homophobe!




only kiddin'

[Cronos]

i thought the trailer made it look pretty funny, i've always hated the poster though

[LordSimen]

I like both Sandler and James. I also thought the trailers for this were pretty damn funny. And on top of all that, Jessica Beil is DAMN hot. I'm definitely seeing this. :D

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
I saw Click and I have a very good IQ of 107.

I did not mean Click I meant Chuck and Larry, as much as I love harebrained comedy's this film looks so awful I just can't believe anyone in there right mind would want to see it.

[bourahioro]

I'm sorry....the movie could suck royally, and I'd still see it....Jessica Biel in a bra and panties - I am so fucking there!

[bigd23]

I love Sandler and will be seeing this. It looks 1000 times funnier than that stupid ass Get Smart trailer. "Wow..I'm stuck in a phone booth.." yeah that's funny :rolleyes: Can't wait for this! Plus it has Jessica Biel...very hot!!

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
this film looks shit, really shit, click was shit, people who want to see this movie must be retarded.

You are calling me and the millions of other people who want to see this film, retarded? You need a reality check. Just because you think it looks terrible, doesn't mean everyone else does.

[Superplasmatron]

I instinctively know that this film is going to be rubbish, if you want to kid yourself otherwise then so be it. Also millions of people voted for George W Bush.

[brodeurnumber1]

Originally posted by thedudeman69
I saw Click and I have a very good IQ of 107.

Sure that wasn't your SAT score there big guy? Anyways, I'll get on the "this movie looks godawful" bandwagon.

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
I instinctively know that this film is going to be rubbish, if you want to kid yourself otherwise then so be it. Also millions of people voted for George W Bush.

Kid myself otherwise? I know that this film is going to be a good time at the movies, with a big crowd and lots of laughs. And I'm not a George W. Bush fan, but I'm sure there are plenty out there.

Get a life.

[RandalGraves]

Can't wait for this, I'm there opening day!

[dellamorte dellamore]

This was already done as a multi part episode on the Drew Carey show , when Drew pretended to marry Mr Wick in order to fool immigration .

[Scarfather]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
I instinctively know that this film is going to be rubbish, if you want to kid yourself otherwise then so be it. Also millions of people voted for George W Bush.

Comedy is the single most subjective art out there, there's nothing instinctive about it, you either like it or you don't, and if you don't, that gives you NO right to personally attack people who do.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by Scarfather
Comedy is the single most subjective art out there, there's nothing instinctive about it, you either like it or you don't, and if you don't, that gives you NO right to personally attack people who do.


I have every right to suggest that being interested in this film is having difficulty with their faculty's, if you take it personally then sorry.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
I have every right to suggest that being interested in this film is having difficulty with their faculty's, if you take it personally then sorry.

Actually, you don't. You are being disrespectful and that's against the rules of the board. You could and proabably should be banned if you aren't just joking and are being serious.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Actually, you don't. You are being disrespectful and that's against the rules of the board. You could and proabably should be banned if you aren't just joking and are being serious.


Am I being serious?

[ilovemovies]

It sounds like you are but then again maybe you are not. I really don't know. If you aren't being serious, you might want to use smilies to indicate that you aren't so people won't get so bent out of shape for your comments.

[Superplasmatron]

:eek:

I just said the film looked shit and would rather Sandler stuck to making great film such as Punch drunk love and the wedding singer, I love Sandler, I even went to see the water boy in the cinema, Bourne 101 got on his high horse of course I was kidding about people being retarded, but on a serious note this film looks terrible and insulting to gay people.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Preston_79]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
:eek:

I just said the film looked shit and would rather Sandler stuck to making great film such as Punch drunk love and the wedding singer, I love Sandler, I even went to see the water boy in the cinema, Bourne 101 got on his high horse of course I was kidding about people being retarded, but on a serious note this film looks terrible and insulting to gay people.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Gay people tend to get bent out of shape when they're depicted as some kind of cliche. They should relax and understand that in the movies world no subject is off limits and all kinds of people become the but of jokes no matter what race they are or who they prefer to fuck. Movie looks like it could be awesome.

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
:eek:

I just said the film looked shit and would rather Sandler stuck to making great film such as Punch drunk love and the wedding singer, I love Sandler, I even went to see the water boy in the cinema, Bourne 101 got on his high horse of course I was kidding about people being retarded, but on a serious note this film looks terrible and insulting to gay people.:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

You obviously weren't kidding. You said that anyone who had interest in seeing I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry, must be retarded. Obviously not literally, but you implied that people interested are stupid and have bad taste in films.

Hey, if you think Goodfellas, The Departed, Pulp Fiction, Fight Club and A Clockwork Orange (5 of my favorite films) are favorites of a retard, I must be a retard with pretty good taste.

And adding that many smilies indicates ignorance and sarcasm.

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by Bourne101

indicates ignorance and sarcasm.

He does this in almost every one of his posts.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by brodeurnumber1
Sure that wasn't your SAT score there big guy?.

nope, I missed the SATs so I had to take the ACT. so, that possibly cannot be my score. Also, nice subtle insult towards me.

[MadsenOMC]

Originally posted by Preston_79
Gay people tend to get bent out of shape when they're depicted as some kind of cliche. They should relax and understand that in the movies world no subject is off limits and all kinds of people become the but of jokes no matter what race they are or who they prefer to fuck. Movie looks like it could be awesome.

I knew this one was coming. It is so easy for a straight person to tell gay people to relax and enjoy movies that stereotypically depict them. Try putting yourself in their shoes first. If someone is in a frat and a movie implied that all frat boys are date rapists, would that person have a right to be upset? If someome is from Mississippi and a movie implied that everyone in Mississippi rapes their sister and fucks their mother, would that person have a right to be upset? If someone is a Christian and a movie implied that all Christians are exactly like Jerry Falwell, would that person have a right to be upset? Or would you tell all of those people to relax and enjoy the simplistic stereotype?

I have not seen this movie. I have no desire to. I hate Sandler comedies and I hate Kevin James. To me it seems as funny as a child with a terminal illness. The trailer and TV clips I have seen certainly indicate that this movie peddles in tired stereotypes and if that is the case gay people have every right to be upset. However, I also believe that people should see something before criticizing it. I think this looks lame, but I do not know that it is because I haven't seen it. I agree with whoever said that comedy is extremely subjective. My brother-in-law thinks this looks like the funniest movie ever made. Different strokes for different folks.

[Bourne101]

Everyone has the right to get upset, but is there really a point? People are going to keep making movies with stereotypical themes, and there's nothing stopping it. I am a basketball player, and when I watch movies where basketball players are stereotyped I just shake my head, laugh and forget about it.

Gay people say that they aren't depicted even close to what they really are. Well, there are a lot of gay people in real life that act the way they are depicted in films, and they are the gay people that started the stereotyping, so if you want to bitch about it go talk to them.

[MadsenOMC]

You're comparing stereotypes of someone who plays a sport to stereotypes over someone's sexual orientation? Seriously? Like those two are even remotely similar. How many gay people do you know? I mean, truly know. Not your friend's cousin, but actually know on a personal level. The way many people around here talk, I'm guessing they actually know zero.

[Superplasmatron]

Originally posted by Bourne101
Everyone has the right to get upset, but is there really a point? People are going to keep making movies with stereotypical themes, and there's nothing stopping it. I am a basketball player, and when I watch movies where basketball players are stereotyped I just shake my head, laugh and forget about it.

Gay people say that they aren't depicted even close to what they really are. Well, there are a lot of gay people in real life that act the way they are depicted in films, and they are the gay people that started the stereotyping, so if you want to bitch about it go talk to them.


My gay friends tend to avoid films such as this and prefere films such as the dreamers, fikms of a deeper and more artistic nature.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by Roy L Dennis
I did not mean Click I meant Chuck and Larry, as much as I love harebrained comedy's this film looks so awful I just can't believe anyone in there right mind would want to see it.

Well we do. So get over it. No need to insult people for looking forward to a film.

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
You're comparing stereotypes of someone who plays a sport to stereotypes over someone's sexual orientation? Seriously? Like those two are even remotely similar. How many gay people do you know? I mean, truly know. Not your friend's cousin, but actually know on a personal level. The way many people around here talk, I'm guessing they actually know zero.

It was just an example. :D Chill.

And I really don't give a shit. I think the jokes in Chuck and Larry look funny, and if you think the jokes are too offensive, then that's your opinion.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I knew this one was coming. It is so easy for a straight person to tell gay people to relax and enjoy movies that stereotypically depict them. Try putting yourself in their shoes first. If someone is in a frat and a movie implied that all frat boys are date rapists, would that person have a right to be upset? If someome is from Mississippi and a movie implied that everyone in Mississippi rapes their sister and fucks their mother, would that person have a right to be upset? If someone is a Christian and a movie implied that all Christians are exactly like Jerry Falwell, would that person have a right to be upset? Or would you tell all of those people to relax and enjoy the simplistic stereotype?

90% of movies use some sort of stereotype of some sort to either define a character or make a point. Gay Stereotypes are one of them, just as the rich big wig jackass white guy is another, and the smooth talking black man is another, or the geek, or the slut, what the hell ever. There's tons of them, and hell they're used as short cuts to defining small roles without having to go too deep into them. There are many movies that depict Christians as crazy, hell a movie like Carrie does and no one seems to get an in uproar over that.

[teenkiller]

The most common stereotype I have seen in movies that portray gays is that they always seem to prefer the company of people with the gender identical to their own. I MEAN WHAT THE FUCK HOLLYWOOD!! Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I think no matter what , someone will get offended , hell people even get offended when a certain " group " of people are portrayed in a positive light . My problem with this film , is that it's a blatant rip off of the Drew Carey show , i guess they felt the statute of limitations on lifting material from a sitcom had expired .

I don't know about stereotypes , i prefer Dts personally , but yes , go down to greenwich village and you will see gay men acting the exact same way they are being portrayed in some of these films , although the wildly flamboyant types are in the minority . Then again , i'm assuming some of these men are gay , they could just be sensitive and very full of life . But , no , i don't feel they are being portrayed accurately in some of these cinematic offerings , it's a comedy though , as braindead as they come , so i wouldn't expect much .

You don't see me going bonkers when a straight dude is portrayed as sex mad , promiscuous , alcoholic , chain smoking , lazy and sports crazed . It's a cliche but the masses don't want to be challenged , they want safe , comfortable , familiar entertainment , to challenge their assumptions about what they think they know hurts a film's box office , it makes people uncomfortable , it's all about pandering , everyone should know that by now .

[Bourne101]

Like I have said many times before, when a movie has a similar plot to an EPISODE of a television show, it can't exactly be considered copying. Obviously in the Drew Carey show it doesn't get as developed as in Chuck and Larry. I'm sure there aren't as many subplots, and the script is completely different.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Wouldn't be so sure , the plotline lasted several episodes and had some of the same jokes , two men trying to prove they love each other and have a stable home life , Drew trying to hide his love for women , this is a huge rip , not a mere similarity .

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
Wouldn't be so sure , the plotline lasted several episodes and had some of the same jokes , two men trying to prove they love each other and have a stable home life , Drew trying to hide his love for women , this is a huge rip , not a mere similarity .

Well that may be, but you are the only person that I've heard talk about it, so most people must not know much about this. It can't be that big of a deal.

[Preston_79]

If movies about stereotypical gay characters is offensive, then I'm guessing the Love Parade in San Fransisco is also offensive. These cliche's didn't come from nowhere, they're all over the place.

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by Bourne101
Well that may be, but you are the only person that I've heard talk about it, so most people must not know much about this. It can't be that big of a deal. \


Della is right. I used to watch Drew all the time. I had forgotten about those few episodes until just reading his posts about it now. It is a big rip off now that I think about it.

[Le_Big_Mac]

Originally posted by Preston_79
Gay people tend to get bent out of shape when they're depicted as some kind of cliche. They should relax and understand that in the movies world no subject is off limits and all kinds of people become the but of jokes no matter what race they are or who they prefer to fuck. Movie looks like it could be awesome.

There's a difference between making fun of all groups, like you'd see on South Park or Mind of Mencia, and making fun of select groups like homosexuals with I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry. Equality through hating (or seeming to hate) everybody is much less discriminatory than inequality through hating (or seeming to hate) some people.

This is where movies like Norbit and Chuck & Larry can be seen by some as bigoted, hateful films. In any case, it doesn't speak highly of a writer to resort to making comedies about groups who have already been subject of enough insult jokes.

I'm not trying to attack anyone by saying this but anyone who, judging by the trailer, finds I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry to look like a very funny movie probably needs to mature to some extent in terms of their sense of humor and probably doesn't even understand how these movies reflect on modern society or how they could affect it in the future, even if they're blatantly not going to actually be remembered long. The jokes don't even look clever to begin with.

And perhaps most importantly, this movie seems to elevate itself lower than a comedy involving stereotypical homosexuals. Movies like Adventures of Priscilla or The Birdcage (or the French farce it was based on, La Cage Aux Folles) can be good. However, this movie seems to have straight people inadvertently mocking homosexuals through cliches (which are tired) without any apparent respect from the filmmakers themselves. Try to argue that this isn't much worse.

In any case, this is all pre-emptive and I'll probably never be able to give an honest argument because I don't plan on seeing it, assuming it does get horrible, horrible reviews.

[arto_j]

Sandler's films have always been fairly gay-friendly. He's never struck me as any kind of a homophobic person and I don't see this film being particularly offensive either. I think it's just meant to be silly and obviously it's not supposed to be taken seriously by anyone. I hear they screened it to GLAAD too and they had no beef with it.

I don't know if it'll be any good though. I do have a bit of a soft spot for Sandler flicks so I'll probably end up at least seeing it at some point.

[dreamcurls]

I personally love Kevin James. i think he's great. i wanted to see this movie because of him.
i'm over adam sandler. the only movie i ever really liked of his was billy madison
however there's a free preview out here for us Universal employees, so I'm going to see it tomorrow :cool:

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by arto_j
Sandler's films have always been fairly gay-friendly. He's never struck me as any kind of a homophobic person and I don't see this film being particularly offensive either. I think it's just meant to be silly and obviously it's not supposed to be taken seriously by anyone. I hear they screened it to GLAAD too and they had no beef with it.

I don't know if it'll be any good though. I do have a bit of a soft spot for Sandler flicks so I'll probably end up at least seeing it at some point.

Heck, if anything, I have a feeling this movie will probably end up having a moral in the end where the main characters learn to respect homosexuals or something to that effect.

[Moviefan02000]

I'm gay and I don't think this seems homophobic..

Anyway, I think it seems cute. I'll see it.

[Bourne101]

http://joblo.com/chuck-larry-a-ripoff

I don't think it is a ripoff after reading this.

[MadsenOMC]

I get a Shallow Hal vibe from this, in that it will try to have it both ways. I haven't seen Shallow Hal in its entirety since it was in theaters, but I remember it making fun of fat people but then also tacking on a message at the end. I think this will take the same approach. It will make fun of gay people and offer plenty of jokes at their expense, and then at the very end it'll tack on some overly sentimental message about accepting people for who they are.

[InvaderZim]

the more offensive the better.. bring it on

[Bourne101]

Very positive review on the main Joblo page.

[franky4fingerz]

I fucking loved this movie.Going into it I wasnt expecting much.I kind of thought sandler was going down the hill (hated click),But I found myself in tears sometimes laughing during the movie. James and Sandler nail the roles and are really good together. I have just one question, HOW THE HELL IS THIS PG13??? This movie is more vulgur than knocked up.It doesnt have alot of cussing but goddamn do they push this with sexual content and humor.I know it was orginaly rated r, I'd love to see what they cut out.
9/10

[Underground]

is that Rob Schineider in the movie?

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by franky4fingerz
I know it was orginaly rated r, I'd love to see what they cut out.
9/10

I don't know if anything was cut out. It was appealed, but I don't think there were any cuts. Probably the reason it seems like an R. Great to hear that people are liking this movie.

[dreamcurls]

Originally posted by Underground
is that Rob Schineider in the movie?

YEP!

[screamer581]

Originally posted by Bourne101
Very positive review on the main Joblo page.


Heh, 13% at Rottentomatoes.

Sandler sucks.

[Bourne101]

Originally posted by screamer581
Heh, 13% at Rottentomatoes.

Sandler sucks.

13% at RT, from critics who most likely went in with a negative attitude, looking for every possible mistake, bad joke and came out complaining. What a trustworthy world of critics we have. Look at the postive reviews and you will see that they went in with an open mind and are the more reliable critics in terms of this movie, which is just supposed to be a good and fun time at the movies.

And you may think Sandler sucks, but there are millions of people who love him, love his movies and he really is a great and cool guy. Sandler does not suck.

[SkyNet]

wow... no love at all for this flick on these boards huh?!?!

well, i have wanted to see this since i first heard about the idea many moons ago.

And now i have...

and it is fucking hilarious!

i mean, obviously it is a similar formula for a flick, but the jokes contained there in are fucking great!

And the Sold Out theater i was in also found it hilarious... so i guess this may not be a "Movie Snob" type of movie, but it is one that will do well in theaters, and deserves to do well, as it is a good comedy

I still think CLICK is my favorite Adam Sandler flick (and i have a very high IQ as well)

so i dont know.... get off your high horses and take in a good comedy!

of course if you dont want to see it at all... thats your perogative... and lord knows i am easy to please when it comes to films... i liked NORBIT which my friends still give me shit for to this day!! but whatever, it made me laugh, it didnt change the way we see FIlmmaking, or change the world, but it made me laugh!

[Underground]

Skynet,

everyone has different tastes. If we all had the same taste in film is board would be boring.

About Rob Schineider, I know it must be him but he's not listed on IMDB.com. He's dressed up all strange and everything.

Is he in more than one scene, and is he the guy that marries them?

[Quigles]

Originally posted by Bourne101
13% at RT, from critics who most likely went in with a negative attitude, looking for every possible mistake, bad joke and came out complaining. What a trustworthy world of critics we have. Look at the postive reviews and you will see that they went in with an open mind and are the more reliable critics in terms of this movie, which is just supposed to be a good and fun time at the movies.
I hate when people do this. They manipulate whatever the critics say to fit their opinion. If the critics praise a movie that they love, they say so in any arguments defending the film. If the critics bash a movie that they love, they say it's because the critics are idiots/are stuck up/didn't go in with an open mind/etc. And then they STILL use the few positive reviews out there to back up their opinion anyway. What the hell is that?

And also, for the record, CHUCK & LARRY marks Adam Sandler's worst reviewed movie after EIGHT CRAZY NIGHTS. So even by Sandler standards, this movie got some pretty shit reviews.

Lastly, here are a list of recent movies that many critics expected to suck but still got positive reviews (due to, you know, the movies actually being GOOD)...

+ Hairspray
+ Live Free or Die Hard
+ Disturbia
+ 28 Weeks Later
+ Blades of Glory

Point being, I really doubt critics just decided to hate CHUCK & LARRY for the hell of it. They obviously had good reason.

[SkyNet]

Originally posted by Quigles
I hate when people do this. They manipulate whatever the critics say to fit their opinion. If the critics praise a movie that they love, they say so in any arguments defending the film. If the critics bash a movie that they love, they say it's because the critics are idiots/are stuck up/didn't go in with an open mind/etc. And then they STILL use the few positive reviews out there to back up their opinion anyway. What the hell is that?

And also, for the record, CHUCK & LARRY marks Adam Sandler's worst reviewed movie after EIGHT CRAZY NIGHTS. So even by Sandler standards, this movie got some pretty shit reviews.

Lastly, here are a list of recent movies that many critics expected to suck but still got positive reviews (due to, you know, the movies actually being GOOD)...

+ Hairspray
+ Live Free or Die Hard
+ Disturbia
+ 28 Weeks Later
+ Blades of Glory

Point being, I really doubt critics just decided to hate CHUCK & LARRY for the hell of it. They obviously had good reason.

i think what the person was saying is that, when you see an Adam Sandler comedy like Chuck & Larry, you have to expect it to be formulaic, with some easy jokes, and potty humor. And that some critics go into these movies expecting these movies to be more then what they are, thus they come out disappointed.

Now thats not to say that these people don't genuinely hate the flick, it's just to say, if i walk into EPIC MOVIE thinking i am getting THE 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN or KNOCKED UP, i'm going to be coming out of that flick thinking i was just raped by comedy! When in reality, when i saw Epic Movie, i knew it was going to be people getting hit in the nuts, prat falls, stupid jokes, and other shit, that make fun of other movies, thus, even though i still found it stupid, i liked it just a little bit better because at least it delivered what i was expecting.

Maybe the problem is people are now expecting more out of an "Adam Sandler" movie. Which i dont get... his movies have been constantly top earners of the years they have been released, and no matter how formulaic they may be, i personally find them to be fucking hilarious! I hope he never stops making those "Adam Sandler" flicks, cuz i will forever go see them!

And in response to Underground:

I know people got different tastes, i was in no way saying that everyone has to like the same shit! I hope that isnt what i sounded like i was saying either, cuz i'm the first to say Different Strokes for Different Folks.... that is why i threw in my last paragraph about me liking NORBIT and still getting shit for it from other friends!

BUT

i am also a FIRM believer in, you can't knock any movie, or tv show, or any form of entertainment until you have at least seen it! Sure trailers are a way of showing us that a movie may be shit... but thats generally 2 minutes of a 100 minute movie. SO until people see it, how can they call anything shit?

Even REDLINE looks like complete shit... but i will reserve my feelings on the flick until i actually see it on DVD!!

if that makes any sense?!

[IronMonkey]

Originally posted by MadsenOMC
I knew this one was coming. It is so easy for a straight person to tell gay people to relax and enjoy movies that stereotypically depict them. Try putting yourself in their shoes first. If someone is in a frat and a movie implied that all frat boys are date rapists, would that person have a right to be upset? If someome is from Mississippi and a movie implied that everyone in Mississippi rapes their sister and fucks their mother, would that person have a right to be upset? If someone is a Christian and a movie implied that all Christians are exactly like Jerry Falwell, would that person have a right to be upset? Or would you tell all of those people to relax and enjoy the simplistic stereotype?

I have not seen this movie. I have no desire to. I hate Sandler comedies and I hate Kevin James. To me it seems as funny as a child with a terminal illness. The trailer and TV clips I have seen certainly indicate that this movie peddles in tired stereotypes and if that is the case gay people have every right to be upset. However, I also believe that people should see something before criticizing it. I think this looks lame, but I do not know that it is because I haven't seen it. I agree with whoever said that comedy is extremely subjective. My brother-in-law thinks this looks like the funniest movie ever made. Different strokes for different folks.

for some reason, my guess is you dont defend comedies using the above logic when they poke fun at religion.

[Bourne101]

Remember Quigles, critics HAVE to see these movies. It is their job and sometimes they have to see movies that they really don't want to see, so they go in with a bad attitude, and come out complaining. I would probably do the same thing if I were a critic. If I had to see Hairspray (which by the way, is probably very good if you like that kind of flick), I would go in wanting to hate it, and I'm sure a lot of critics have the same mindset. The best critics are the ones who go in with an open mind and those are the critics that I trust.

[optimus1]

I am sure its a funny movie , I thought Click was pretty funny as are most of Sandlers movies..who cares if they do gay jokes or religious jokes or whatever..its a joke so get over it...

[dreamcurls]

Originally posted by SkyNet
wow... no love at all for this flick on these boards huh?!?!

well, i have wanted to see this since i first heard about the idea many moons ago.

And now i have...

and it is fucking hilarious!

i mean, obviously it is a similar formula for a flick, but the jokes contained there in are fucking great!

And the Sold Out theater i was in also found it hilarious... so i guess this may not be a "Movie Snob" type of movie, but it is one that will do well in theaters, and deserves to do well, as it is a good comedy

I still think CLICK is my favorite Adam Sandler flick (and i have a very high IQ as well)

so i dont know.... get off your high horses and take in a good comedy!

of course if you dont want to see it at all... thats your perogative... and lord knows i am easy to please when it comes to films... i liked NORBIT which my friends still give me shit for to this day!! but whatever, it made me laugh, it didnt change the way we see FIlmmaking, or change the world, but it made me laugh!

check out my thread " I now pronounce you. . . freakin hilarious" in upcoming movie forum

i paid no attention to the movie snobs and nay sayers and saw this movie for what it was, a great comedy
and i loved it!

[Quigles]

Originally posted by Bourne101
Remember Quigles, critics HAVE to see these movies. It is their job and sometimes they have to see movies that they really don't want to see, so they go in with a bad attitude, and come out complaining. I would probably do the same thing if I were a critic. If I had to see Hairspray (which by the way, is probably very good if you like that kind of flick), I would go in wanting to hate it, and I'm sure a lot of critics have the same mindset. The best critics are the ones who go in with an open mind and those are the critics that I trust.
Yes, many critics do HAVE to see these movies. But my point was that , in showing the list of movies that critics expected to suck, a good movie is a good movie (regardless of preconceived opinions). Thus, it will be reviewed as such.

Your example of Hairspray actually proves my point. Richard Roeper said himself that he had zero interest in the film beforehand, and ended up loving it.

This also applies to "dumb" comedies. HAROLD & KUMAR comes to mind, a movie that most critics claimed would be ridiculously stupid, and yet received a 72% positive rating on Rotten Tomatoes upon its actual release.

So just because CHUCK & LARRY is a dumb Sandler comedy, that doesn't mean critics are going to bash it simply because that's the category it falls into.

Originally posted by SkyNet
i think what the person was saying is that, when you see an Adam Sandler comedy like Chuck & Larry, you have to expect it to be formulaic, with some easy jokes, and potty humor. And that some critics go into these movies expecting these movies to be more then what they are, thus they come out disappointed.

Now thats not to say that these people don't genuinely hate the flick, it's just to say, if i walk into EPIC MOVIE thinking i am getting THE 40-YEAR-OLD VIRGIN or KNOCKED UP, i'm going to be coming out of that flick thinking i was just raped by comedy! When in reality, when i saw Epic Movie, i knew it was going to be people getting hit in the nuts, prat falls, stupid jokes, and other shit, that make fun of other movies, thus, even though i still found it stupid, i liked it just a little bit better because at least it delivered what i was expecting.

Maybe the problem is people are now expecting more out of an "Adam Sandler" movie. Which i dont get... his movies have been constantly top earners of the years they have been released, and no matter how formulaic they may be, i personally find them to be fucking hilarious! I hope he never stops making those "Adam Sandler" flicks, cuz i will forever go see them!
That actually wasn't his point. He was trying to say that critics go in expecting a shitty movie, so that's what they get. They're not as inclined to just "go with it."

And my point was, most of the time, critics have good reason to suspect if a movie's going to be bad. But if by chance it ends up being pretty decent, it's not like they're going to go out of the their way to bash it simply because that was their first impression.

i am also a FIRM believer in, you can't knock any movie, or tv show, or any form of entertainment until you have at least seen it! Sure trailers are a way of showing us that a movie may be shit... but thats generally 2 minutes of a 100 minute movie. SO until people see it, how can they call anything shit?

Even REDLINE looks like complete shit... but i will reserve my feelings on the flick until i actually see it on DVD!!

if that makes any sense?!
I know this wasn't directed at me, but I hear this argument a lot from people, and it's always bothered me. I've gotten to the point now where I've seen enough movies, watched enough trailers, and read enough reviews to gauge whether I'm going to like a movie or not. I'd say I have over a 90% success rate with how accurate I am at predicting the quality of a picture.

As for CHUCK & LARRY, my prediction was: a hypocritical collection of stupid gay jokes in a 90 minute package, the only highlight being Jessica Biel's gorgeous bod.

[SkyNet]

Originally posted by Quigles

I know this wasn't directed at me, but I hear this argument a lot from people, and it's always bothered me. I've gotten to the point now where I've seen enough movies, watched enough trailers, and read enough reviews to gauge whether I'm going to like a movie or not. I'd say I have over a 90% success rate with how accurate I am at predicting the quality of a picture.

As for CHUCK & LARRY, my prediction was: a hypocritical collection of stupid gay jokes in a 90 minute package, the only highlight being Jessica Biel's gorgeous bod.

well see... you say MY PREDICTION.... and that TO ME... is an acceptable way of putting it! What i was saying with that comment is when people say out right "This movie is going to be pure shit... dont even waste your fucking money"... see they are out right saying something they cant possibly know due to the fact that they havnt seen said film. But those little 2 words that you put: My prediction, separates what you write from what some others write! Do you get what im saying? As long as you state that what you are saying is based in pure conjecture, and a person reading what you are saying knows that, from what you have seen or heard of the movie, Your PREDICTION is that it will be hypocritical gay jokes put into a 90 minute package with Jessica Biel's fine body, tells a reader that you are basing this off of the same material everyone else has seen, and that you have not in fact seen the movie yet?!

hope that made sense!

[Quigles]

Originally posted by SkyNet
well see... you say MY PREDICTION.... and that TO ME... is an acceptable way of putting it! What i was saying with that comment is when people say out right "This movie is going to be pure shit... dont even waste your fucking money"... see they are out right saying something they cant possibly know due to the fact that they havnt seen said film. But those little 2 words that you put: My prediction, separates what you write from what some others write! Do you get what im saying? As long as you state that what you are saying is based in pure conjecture, and a person reading what you are saying knows that, from what you have seen or heard of the movie, Your PREDICTION is that it will be hypocritical gay jokes put into a 90 minute package with Jessica Biel's fine body, tells a reader that you are basing this off of the same material everyone else has seen, and that you have not in fact seen the movie yet?!

hope that made sense!
I think it's safe to assume that any comments made regarding a movie in the JoBlo forums is an opinion. You shouldn't need to state that in every post. That's poor writing, actually. It's the equivalent of putting "I think..." in an essay.

[SkyNet]

Originally posted by Quigles
I think it's safe to assume that any comments made regarding a movie in the JoBlo forums is an opinion. You shouldn't need to state that in every post. That's poor writing, actually. It's the equivalent of putting "I think..." in an essay.

but one medium (essay) has nothing to do with the other (movie review)... and even THEN... an essay would be dependent of the subject. If you are writing an essay that is supposed to be based in cold hard fact, putting I THINK In said essay would be a must to distinguish when the writer is hypothesizing and when the writer is stating cold hard scientific facts!

In that same breath, if i were to sit down and read a movie review for I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry, and it was a long, well written review, that trashed the movie... but in the end, the person who wrote the review says "now, i have no actually seen the movie in question, this is just my opinions on what the movie looks like to me"

i would say that review has ZERO merit, and i would not take what he has to say seriously... BECAUSE he is basing his opinions off of the same promotional material i have seen, so his opinion is an uninformed one at best. No matter how well written, or how articulate the reviewer was, the simple fact that he/she has NOT Seen the movie they are shitting on, makes their arguments (in my own opinion of course) completely 100% Moot!

[anakinsrise]

Originally posted by franky4fingerz
I HOW THE HELL IS THIS PG13??? This movie is more vulgur than knocked up.It doesnt have alot of cussing but goddamn do they push this with sexual content and humor.I know it was orginaly rated r, I'd love to see what they cut out.
9/10
I have to agree i will post my review later but as the jokes kept coming and getting dirtier i said to myself is this really PG-13?? I had to check my ticket stub.LOL

[daddiefatsacks]

Enjoyable movie, pretty predictable and cheesy at times, but overall it was fun. James' son was hilarious, and Jessica Biel, wow, what a fuckin bod.

7/10

[cletus66]

I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry is one of the more enjoyable Adam Sandler movies in a while. I liked it much more than last year's Click. There are alot of good laughs and Sandler and James had a very good chemistry. It is pretty perdictable but still very enjoyable and the scene where Jessica Biel takes her clothes off is worth the price of admission alone.


7.5/10

[smok3h]

This movie surprised the shit out of me. I thought it would be ok, but I was wary of it because I hated Click and wasn't the biggest fan of 50 First Dates and Mr. Deeds, so my faith in Adam Sandlar was low. But I loooove Happy Gilmoure, Billy Madison, and Wedding Singer.. Big Daddy is ok too. Alright, well I've gone off gone of on a tangent, but this movie made up for all those shit ones he made. It is laugh out loud funny cosistantly throughout the whole movie. I think I was laughing as much during this movie as I was during Knocked Up. In my opinion, one of the keys to this film being so funny was the great Kevin James. I love King of Queens, and he is as hilarious in this movie as he is in the show. Give us more movies with Kevin James, Hollywood! All in all, I rate this film 8 bong hits out of 10.

[I Am Legend]

I was also surprised by this movie. I expected it be decent but I actually laughed me @ss off several times. Sandler and James were both great, as were Buschemi, Schneider and the rest of the Sandler-film regulars.

And how can anyone badmouth a movie that has Jessica Biel in a bra and panties?

8 out of 10