Terminator 4

[teenkiller]

So the upcoming Terminator trilogy that was announced by new rights holder Halcyon has been stalled. Seems like there are distribution issues between them and MGM. Personally I'm not bothered because a new trilogy with no returning characters doesn't appeal to me much. They would REALLY have to win me over. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[vesaker]

Same here, doesn't bother me one bit. I thought it was stupid to do a 3rd one and i've only seen it once and from what i remeber it wasn't that good.

[Bourne101]

I thought the third one was great, but no need for a new trilogy.

[AndrewDB]

I don't want any more Terminator movies. I wanted them to stop at T2.

And also, just out of curiosity TeenKiller, Why do you sign all of your posts "Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.", especially when we're not supposed to have signatures?

[teenkiller]

I think the third was pretty good but in no way can it hold a candle to either of the first two. I mean those films are legendary. They used a bit too much comedy in the third one and even though I laughed I also have to admit that it was inappropriate for a Terminator film. The only person who can touch another Terminator film is James Cameron and since he wouldn't dare come back for another I won't spend too much time thinking about the future of the T series. Wellt thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[MidnightAngel]

Originally posted by Xehirut
I don't want any more Terminator movies. I wanted them to stop at T2.



Word. T2 should ended the terminator saga but they wanted to milk out a ca$h cow and everybody knows what happened with T3.

[Drewza89]

If they could also get the rights for Robocop, I would love to see Terminator VS Robocop.

[Cronos]

couldn't care less really, while i liked T3 i have no interest in any more, as far as im concerned the stories done. they could go onto different characters, side stories or whatever but that doesn't interest me at all

[Cronos]

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[Spidey]

I would love to see another Terminator movie, if done right.
No more sending terminators back in time but the story should be about John Connor kicking ass in the future.
I think the reason not everybody liked T3 because the TX wasn't as menacing as the T1000 was.

I guess she was allright as a baddie :

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/t/txmetal.jpg

But this guy still scares the shit out of me :



http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/8b/250px-T-1000.gif

[jord2006]

T2 is one of the best sequals ever . a third was completely redundant as will be a 4th and any thereafter. its also rare that a sequal will conclude the story so great, making the third even more unnecessary.

[WhatsInaName]

Although I don't believe that any new sequel to this franchise will ever beat the legendary first two, I don't mind a 4th installment that involves the actual war between machines and humans. It could be a very good movie just as a continuation of the story, like the 3rd was (imo).

[teenkiller]

I think if they make a new trilogy they should go with a new angle to separate itself from the first three. Have it take place in the future timeline during the war. John Connor being all grown up. That could actually be interesting. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[starcat]

im totally up for another terminator...im fine with the whole saga of the conner family being over...even though i think the character of john should definately be in a sequel, since he turns into like the main leader dude...but i say its time to get on with the human robot war... just make it good, and not a cheesy rushed out hoping to make a quick buck movie... also why does it automatically have to be a trilogy... why does every movie have to be part of trilogy now... thats my only gripe about starwars...everyone thinks they have to have a trilogy now... and starwars isnt even a trilogy anymore...theres 6 of them... i know people want to say original trilogy and new trilogy... but its episodes 1-6 like it or not.

[APzombie]

Im glad. Personally the series ended with the second, the third has too many plot holes and is profoundly stupid.

[DAVID GUIVANT]

Originally posted by vesaker
Same here, doesn't bother me one bit. I thought it was stupid to do a 3rd one and i've only seen it once and from what i remeber it wasn't that good.

I agree here Vesaker, John and Sarah got rid of all the remaining parts and The T-800 was also intelligent enough to let himself in the pit so that he could save the future.

I found it very strange to have a number 3, didn't go to the movies to see it and ended up watching it later on telly. Didn't miss anything at all. Wasn't as exciting as 1 and 2.

I did like the spin-off Terminator 3D at Universal Studios.
But that was a different attraction.


Well if they ever get to do number 4, I hope it's in the future and they blow up SKYNET for good. :cool:

[GodHand]

As long as Nick Stahl is in it, I'm game.

[Alzabra]

A 4th would interest me but I think I would prob end up not liking it as I did with the 3rd due to previous Characters not being in the movie.

I think the reason I didnt like T3 is due to not having Sarah there as well(I read the book and already knew she died) but just couldnt take it in. I would have also liked them to bring back Edward Furlong(John from T2) to me he is connor and would have suited the roll alot better than Nick Stahl from T3.

It would now have to goto the war with the machines if they make a new movie as they cant keep sending back Terminators to try and kill connor

[bigred760]

I'd like to see the beginning of the war with the machines. I agree that the time travelling angle should stop, unless it's showing the humans sending the terminators (and Michael Biehn) back.

Or I guess I could just watch the Matrix again.

[vesaker]

IF what ppl want to see is crazy Robot war in the Future then they NEED to do a new RoBo Cop movie which will then set up RoBo Cop Vs Terminator. I say this as from my understnding (in the comics anyways) RoBo Cop is the one responsible for SkyNET gaining sentiance! Something about Murphy pluging into the central SkyNET computer and it then learning from RoBo Cop's software it becomes sentiant, i think :D

[joeyatog]

Terminator 3 is actually pretty good for a '3rd' movie. Of course it's not T2, but what the fuck is!?! I thought the ending was interesting and it set up a good foundation for a fourth flick. But ONLY if it involves the people from the 3rd flick (Nick Stahl, Claire Danes, etc.) A bunch of new characters!?! Sounds like some syndicated sci-fi show on network TV on a Saturday afternoon!!!

Besides, Arnie could come back still. It wouldn't take much time-traveling logic to bring him back just like last time!

[Shockwave]

While 3 was a surprise hit with me, i dont even want to think about a fourth movie.

It ended with the 3rd looping back to the events that would set the first movie into motion. Skynet was destined to rise, and destined to fall. The End. No more. Buh-buy.:)

[teenkiller]

Rachel Weisz and Chloe Sevigny have been rumored to be duking it out for a role in the upcoming Terminator. Also, it's been said that Marcus Schenkenberg has been selected to play a Terminator. Strange casting there I think. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Smiert Spionam]

Originally posted by teenkiller
Rachel Weisz and Chloe Sevigny have been rumored to be duking it out for a role in the upcoming Terminator.

So Rachel Weisz is too good for Mummy 3, but not too good for Terminator 4?

I call bullshit.

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by Smiert Spionam
So Rachel Weisz is too good for Mummy 3, but not too good for Terminator 4?

I call bullshit.

To be fair The Terminator series handily kicks the living shit out of the Mummy series.:)

I think Weisz would be an exellent addition to the Terminator cast, even if i would prefer a part 4 never be made.

[Preston_79]

Originally posted by GodHand
As long as Nick Stahl is in it, I'm game.

as long as he's not in it, I'm game. At least Furlong could act intense even if he is small. Stahl is small, and a complete wuss in T3 so I can't picture him leading any kind of resistance. Out of all the survivors on earth, what would make him the best leader?

[martyds761]

PLEASE GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not another........................................... ..........

[Tagia_Romero]

No more Terminators, PLEASE.

[Le_Big_Mac]

The series should have stopped at T2. If they have to do this one, make it an all-out war film or something, so it's not a Terminator/guy from the future protecting John Connor's ass for the fourth time.

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by Le_Big_Mac
The series should have stopped at T2. If they have to do this one, make it an all-out war film or something, so it's not a Terminator/guy from the future protecting John Connor's ass for the fourth time.

True, because at the end of the third film the world has gone to shit sot there's no other way than forward, well, LOGICALLY speaking anyway. It would be delightful to see the machine wars though, given we were given but a taste of it in the first movie. I don't know about you, but I would love to see more of that and see how John and Kate become the leaders of the resistance that salvages humanity.

[AndrewDB]

Robert Patrick will and forever shall be the best Terminator.

I recently re-watched T2 and he still scares the effing piss out of me.

[freefall]

Rachel Weisz and Chloë Sevigny not in T4

http://popcornjunkies.insidepulse.com/articles/70744/2007/09/25/and-the-female-lead-in-iterminator-4i-goes-to.html

[DarkKnight81]

No James Cameron. No Arnie. No thank you.

[teenkiller]

Originally posted by Preston_79
as long as he's not in it, I'm game. At least Furlong could act intense even if he is small. Stahl is small, and a complete wuss in T3 so I can't picture him leading any kind of resistance. Out of all the survivors on earth, what would make him the best leader?

Stahl has said that he won't be in it because they want to age his character since the film will be taking place in the future. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[RandalGraves]

It's a Terminator movie, so I'll be there! But T3 was my fav of the series...followed by T2, then the original. Kinda anxious to see what they're gonna do with this one.

[DarkKnight81]

Originally posted by RandalGraves
But T3 was my fav of the series...

Say huh?!

[john_rambo]

im completely for t4.... if arnold is in it.

[LordSimen]

They haven't made a bad terminator movie yet so count me in.

Originally posted by Smiert Spionam
So Rachel Weisz is too good for Mummy 3, but not too good for Terminator 4?

I call bullshit.

Huh? Terminator is a widely beloved series that's held on a completely high standard by many people. How does it even compare to Mummy at all?

[Cop No. 633]

I think you guys took what Smiert said in a different way. He wasn't saying Mummy's a better series than Terminator... what he's saying is that it's bullshit that Weisz would turn down a third sequel and then try desperately to be in another sequel of another franchise... it just doesn't make sense. Weisz is a respectable actress and I doubt she would be trying really hard to get some supporting role in T4. Again, it doesn't add up logically.

[Superplasmatron]

I did not even know they made a 3rd.

[God of War]

im completely for t4.... if arnold is in it.
Apparently, Arnold now wants nothing to do with the T4. Even though in an earlier interview, he hinted that he was to appear in a kind-of cameo. I really don't want to see another female terminator movie. They need something fresh, and while this new movie will mark the first in a proposed new trilogy, I think it will unfortunately suck. T4 needs the Austrian Oak :D

While I'm against the idea of three more films. I would like to see T4: War of the Machines. The actual battles in the future, when Cyberdyne became fully self aware and as you know, the rest is future history. It should all be set in that time frame. There is so much that they can do with Terminator. But instead, all we may get is a shallow sequel with no real impact. Claire Danes won't be returning if I rtead correctly a few months back. She and Nick Stahl both don't want to return. If that's true, then we will have yet another John Connor. The older version who was seen in T2. Not that actual actor, but him at that age.

Ah well, we'll inevitably see what happens. Either way, I will be seeing it.

[APzombie]

I'm sooo not looking forward to another milked part in this franchise. The only Terminator films I love are the first two.

[Jig Saw 123]

Here comes another useless sequel. Sike. For real I would love to see a Terminator 4 I mean T3 wasn't great and it was terrible it was mediocre. I could see another Terminator movie as long as it takes place in the period of the war itself... :D

[john_rambo]

on a side note when do the sarah connor chronicles start... i actually am looking forward to that show... it has potential

[teenkiller]

Apparently McG (?) is rumored to direct. Here's a quote from him:

"the script just got turned in last week and the good people at The Halcyon Company would like to get this sucker into pre-production stat."

Supposedly it revolves around a 30 year old John Connor. Still... not... interested.

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[APzombie]

You know he is just treating it as a cash cow... "Lets get this sucker into pre-production."

Christ I hate McG.

It feels weird talking about a new Terminator film without Invincible around, remember back when T3 was rolling into production? I swear to God no schmoe, let alone person was as much of a fan or as exited about a new sequel than him.

[Shockwave]

You know he is just treating it as a cash cow... "Lets get this sucker into pre-production."

Christ I hate McG.

It feels weird talking about a new Terminator film without Invincible around, remember back when T3 was rolling into production? I swear to God no schmoe, let alone person was as much of a fan or as exited about a new sequel than him.


Heh. I remember him. What ever became of the number 1 Terminator fan anyway? He posted quite abit.

This is going to have to really wow me to get me to even consider seeing it in a theatre. I really have no faith in McG to deleiver something even on the level of T3, much less T2.

[yorrick brown]

i found this yesterday on aint it cool news.it gets better and better t4

please be another made up story.

i guess vin likes foursomes


TERMINATOR 4 update!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. The big talk of the internet right now is a rumor over at CHUD concerning McG possibly stepping behind the camera for T4.

I'm not automatically against the idea, but I'm not too hot on it, either. I mean, I like Jonathan Mostow's films, but T3 didn't work at all for me. It's not that I hated it, but I was so indifferent to it that I almost wish I hated it because then I'd feel something one way or the other.

On top of that bit of rumor, I've also heard another juicy rumor concerning someone who could slap his living tissue over metal endo-skeleton. I'm hearing that Vin Diesel is taking meetings with the Terminator people and the assumption is it's about him being a Terminator... of course, I'd love it if they cast him as one of the resistance fighters instead, but I could see him being a good Terminator.

No matter what happens... if McG does it, if Vin Diesel joins... whatever... I hope that they go back to a kind of gritty realism that James Cameron did so well. We've always wanted to see the future war in all its glory... I know I've been dying to see it since I read the T2 novelization and got that whole extra chunk as John Conner breaks Skynet and sends back Kyle Reese and the re-programed T-800. But I think one of things that turned me off about T3 was just how slick it looked.

I'd love it if the future war is dire... if it matched tonally with the glimpses we saw in the first Terminator film.

What do you folks think?


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i25/crazegirl0003/vin%20diesel/vd2.jpg
"i`ll be back...in another shitty movie."

vomit.this is what your gonna have to look at

[JJFlamingo]

Vin Diesel = Worst Actor Ever...

[jbar1026]

he was great in pitch black and riddick! i also enjoyed xxx and fast and furious but. i think he would be a good bad terminator

[therealjohng]

McfuckingG is the director. Goddamnit.

[JJFlamingo]

well, flush this one down the toilet...

[DAVID GUIVANT]

MCG's a very visual director, high speed kinda fellow like Joseph Khan and Rob Cohen. Good for popcorn. See how this will turn out?

The T-3 female Terminatrix wasn't appealing at all, so was the story, to me, the saga ended at T2, I was even surprised that they did a sequel.

I understand that Nick Stahl doesn't want to join, it also makes sense as John Conner is supposed to be older.

They need a big muscle fellow to play the Terminators: Dolph Lundgren or Ralph Moeller.

[Drewza89]

McG doesn't have the freakin' credentials to make it. Get a real director please!

[Shockwave]

Fuck this.

If Ah-nold isnt coming back, its not worth it to me.:(

[jaw2929]

I'm all over this sonuvabitch.... I don't give a fuck who's directing or who's in it.... I'm into the Terminator franchise.

[Rukas]

MCG's a very visual director, high speed kinda fellow like Joseph Khan and Rob Cohen. Good for popcorn. See how this will turn out?

The T-3 female Terminatrix wasn't appealing at all, so was the story, to me, the saga ended at T2, I was even surprised that they did a sequel.

I understand that Nick Stahl doesn't want to join, it also makes sense as John Conner is supposed to be older.

From what I read he wanted to return but said he couldnt because his character was now older.

They need a big muscle fellow to play the Terminators: Dolph Lundgren or Ralph Moeller.

Dolph? Come on, if they are going to get somebody, lets at least not get somebody washed up and old. I liked Dolph, and he would have done an awesome job in my opinion during his peak (think Universal Soldier), but not anymore.


Ralph? No.

Come on, either stick the Rock in it, Vin, or find an unknown body builder, Im sure theres a ton of them out there and a few of them can probably act a little. It worked before.

[bigred760]

McG doesn't even come close to the pedigree that is James Cameron; he's a product of the MTV style of directing generation. Mostow wasn't either, but at least he gave some decent style to the third. McG is a horrible choice to take over this franchise.

[darkface]

McG is a terrible choice. Is anyone even thinking about keeping a great story going? ...NO. Instead the studios just want money.

I bet Mr. Cameron is pissed. I still don't like T-3. I can watch it, but I still don't relate it to the first two.


On a side note, Invincible is still around. He just posts on a different alias. Trust me... you'll start seeing him appear as the Terminator discussions continue :P

[DAVID GUIVANT]

Come on, either stick the Rock in it, Vin, or find an unknown body builder, Im sure theres a ton of them out there and a few of them can probably act a little. It worked before.

Yeah, well one of em became governor, might try the wrestlers category.
Although one of the wrestler and actor in Predator also became a governor.;)

[teenkiller]

I say fuck no to Rock and Diesel. I would have loved Dolph Lundgren as The Terminator had this been 15 or even ten years ago but Dolph is starting to look too old for the part. It's time for the next action hero to step up. Get an unknown, but someone who can really pull it off. Not just looking big but someone with actual screen presence. Years ago we had Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Lundgren, Norris, Segal, Van Damme, Willis... now all we have to choose from is Rock and Diesel? And it seems they want to focus on comedies lately. Someone new needs to step up to the plate. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[pablo_super1!]

EXCLUSIVE From JOBLO.com (http://joblo.com/excl-mcg-set-for-t4)

Earlier this fall it was rumored that McG was circling TERMINATOR 4. He was on the "short list" of directors to direct the fourth installment in the TERMINATOR series and now we can exclusively report that McG has, in fact, signed on to direct TERMINATOR SALVATION: THE FUTURE BEGINS. We received a report last night about the signing from an inside source and we were able to independently confirm the news this morning. With McG at the helm, at least you can guarantee a good looking movie. Whether it'll be any good remains to be seen. McG, for all his visual flair, has yet to really impress me, though he did make some strides with WE ARE MARSHALL. Warner Bros. recently gave the film a greenlight and is looking to get filming in "early 2008" for a summer 2009 release. The script by John Brancato and Michael Ferris (TERMINATOR 3) was locked in October due to the writer's strike. The fourth film is described as being as big in siza and scale as TERMINATOR 3 but with a smaller budget now that Arnold Schwarzenegger is no longer part of the production (Claire Danes and Nick Stahl will not be returning either).

I'm kinda neutral on this for now I'm not sure how I feel about a part 4, I'll have to wait for a first trailer or more news until I make a decision.

oh and thought you might want to see these posters for the Spinoff Tv show thats supposed to show what happened between T2 and T3, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, and on this it looks pretty good I'm glad they got Lena Headley to play Sarah Connor as I thought she did great in 300.




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[Digifruitella]

The choice of McG really shows just where the series have gone down to. I didn't have a problem with T3 as it was actually a decent movie, but I felt it ended with T2, at least for me. I've only seen Charlies Angles 2 from this guy and that was enough. It's unfortunate to see one of my favorite series turn into a money-milking machine, I think I speak for everyone. This is how H-wood is raping its' fanbase in the ass. I wonder what Cameron is thinking.

[DAVID GUIVANT]

Who's the robot chick? She looks like one of the actresses in Firefly? :D
So Sarah would be fighting another robot again sent from the future and die isn't it? :confused:

But is there a John Connor in the TV show? :cool:

[pablo_super1!]

yea thats Summer Glau. and I think that they are being chased by a terminator and Skynet. Here's the synopsis according to IMDB

From the creators of "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines." Setting after the event "Terminator 2: Judgment Day." After the sacrifices of Dr. Miles Dyson and T-800 Model 101 Terminator, the Connors find themselves once again being stalk by Skynet's agents from the future once again. Realizes that their nightmare isn't over, they decide to stop running and focus on preventing the birth of Skynet. With the aid of the beautiful Cameron Phillips, who has a mysterious past that also link to the future, they began a quest stop the United States military from creating the program that will bring humanity to an end

here's the trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjLne16FKmQ

It looks pretty good.

[ilovemovies]

I like McG but he doesn't seem to be a good fit for the terminator franchise. I hope he proves me wrong. Between We Are Marshall and the TV series Fastlane and Supernatural, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

[biff_debris]

I think the Terminator franchise still has plenty of room for stories -- granted that they indeed don't involve time travel (or at least anything involving the Action-Packed Connor Family). I agree a full-scale war movie would rock all to hell if done right, taking those panoramas Cameron created in the first movie and maxing them out by 1000 times or so.

[Jig Saw 123]

I look forward to seeing a new Terminator film. Terminator 3 was pretty good. And i would like to see what direction they take the franchise...

[Rawlin67]

do we really need a Terminator show on Fox? Using the "Sarah Connor Chronicles" just seems like a way to cash out quick before everyone goes "well, Arnold isnt in this, and im getting bored." I personally have no interest in Terminator without the actual guy.

[yorrick brown]

this awesome little rumour has just been posted by moviehole.net

Ramius here, subbing for Clint (who I believe is watching "Walk Hard" tonight).
The more I hear about it - Christian Bale will rock as John Connor, for one - the more excited I get about "Terminator 4". Not "Quite your Saturday afternoon job at McDonald's so you can catch T2 with your friends" excited (true story), but still, excited.
Today CHUD has some fresh, funky and first-hand (what else starts with F that I can insert in there?) news regarding the "Terminator Salvation : The Future Begins" script. I'll let you click over there to get the full low-down but I'll mention one thing, the exciting prospect of seeing Kyle Reese (the character played by Michael Biehn in the first "Terminator" flick) again. He apparently appears in a scene with Connor. Just the one. It'd be great to see Biehn back in the role, but he's got a few more face craters now than he did in 1984 when he shot the original, so I doubt they'll be using him. Still, a "Terminator" fan can dream can't he?

[yorrick brown]

ok moviehole posted about reese(i posted above.) coming back .now aint it cool news has just posted this

serious spoiler material, people who don't want to know anything about this movie should step away from the computer right now.

John Connor is not the main character of Terminator 4; that character is someone named Marcus. Marcus was put 'out of commission' before the nuclear holocaust on Judgment Day and he wakes up about 15 years before the future we see in the original Terminator films, which puts the movie at about 2015 or so. Marcus is a bad ass - think along the lines of Riddick - and what he finds is a blasted world filled with horror. Radiation poisoning, starvation, rampant jaywalking - all the things you expect post-apocalypse. There's also John Connor, who is trying to build a utopian society while running the human resistance.

Connor's role is apparently bigger in the second film; whoever they hire for Marcus (my understanding is that the part is not yet cast) will be around for all three films. Terminator 4 is going to be the most male-centric of all the Terminator films, but there is a butt busting female character by the name of Blair, a pilot for the human resistance.

They're going to need some buttkickers, because the scope of the action in Terminator 4 is HUGE. Lots of machine action in this film, including some battles with the T-600s. Yup, the rubber skin Terminators. And there's another familiar character that shows up - Reese shows up in a scene with John Connor. I don't know what his involvement in the next two films will be, though.

Finally, here's a story point that's probably a legitimate spoiler (although it's sort of the main crux around which the story revolves, so it will probably get blown in the advertising), so I'll invisotext this stuff: A big aspect of the story is the degrees of difference between a human and a Terminator. By which I mean cyborgs. By which I mean human brains in robot bodies.

I've gathered this info from a number of different sources, and while they all have different takes on the material (all mostly positive, with one of my sources saying that the story is great and that the action promises to be incredible), they all bring up one point of comparison: The Matrix films. Make of that what you will. For me, the information I've gotten - including really spoilery stuff I won't inflict on you - has gotten me jazzed. This film feels like it could be epic and erase the taste of the workmanlike T3 from my mouth. Let's hope McG can pull this off.

[bigred760]

I'd love to Biehn back as Reese, but I don't see how they could do it. He's twenty years older now and I don't think CGI could help.

[yorrick brown]

from chud

The dashing Patrick Lee of SciFi Wire spoke with Terminator 4 associate producer James Middleton about some rumors that have been swirling around the movie, including our own reports about the film centering on a new hero and John Connor having a limited role until the second and third movies. Turns out we were right, even as Middleton tries to spin it.

"It's set after the events of [Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines], where we see the nuclear exchange at the end of the movie, and we show what the world is like after this event, and we show how people try to deal in a post-apocalyptic world," Middleton told SciFi Wire. "And we introduce a new character, who becomes very important to the resistance and to John Connor, a new hero. It's really about the birth of a new hero."

Yes, a new hero named Marcus. But what about John Connor? What's his role in this film? Thus spake Middleton: "I would look at him as a character that is introduced and that will grow in the second and third movies of the trilogy."

Zing, motherfucker, zing. Here's what you have to keep in mind: Middleton isn't going to piss off a legion of Terminator fans this early by saying that John Connor has a small role in the movie. Patrick doesn't quote Middleton but says that the producer told him that Connor 'will definitely be central in the film,' but what does that mean? It certainly doesn't dispute anything I've written, as I've said that while Connor has a small role in the film in terms of running time, the whole movie is about the society and resistance he's creating. The story revolves around him, but he doesn't get a lot of face time.

Middleton also addressed the annoying rumors that Arnold would be back for a cameo; this is the sort of thing that people should just obviously dismiss, as he's the governor of California at the moment. He may be out of office in time to show up in the next film, but the idea of him shooting scenes for this film while running a state is ludicrous.

[Shockwave]

Yorrick, do u ever stop kicking ass?


Im actualy starting to look forward to this. I really dont think Bale would sign on unless the script was gold.

I still wish they had left it at 3, but since i cant exactly change minds on the matter, ill just hope it kicks ass.:)


....also, am i the only one who is happy they ARE NOT focusing on John Connor?

[Goodpsycho]

terminator without Arnold schwarzenegger like taxi driver without Robert deniro !

[DAVID GUIVANT]

Get DOLPH LUNDGREN / VANDAMME / MICHAEL JAY WHITE immediately :D

[yorrick brown]

:)


from moviehole

Well slap my cheeks and pinch my ass, “Terminator 4” just got even better!

Likely to join Christian Bale for the fourth installment – titled “Terminator Salvation : The Future Begins” – is all-round nice guy and “No Country for Old Men” scene-stealer Josh Brolin.

Brolin would wear the endoskeleton of the new Terminator, director McG (“Charlies Angels”) tells IF Magazine.

‘’It's a decidedly masculine role and we live in a time, where a lot of actors are very effeminate and there's a masculine component to the role and there are guys out there like Russell Crowe and Eric Bana who bring a good physicality and do what they do, but I don't know if they're exactly right at the end of the day. Josh Brolin is a very exciting actor, so we'll see.’’

Not that Christian Bale, who’ll play John Connor, is too shabby an actor either.

“He’s the most talented actor of our generation,” the man who gave us ‘Marisa Cooper’ says.

As for whether Robert Patrick – we know Arnold’s not coming back – will reprise his role from “T2” for “T4”?

“There will be a suggestion of the liquid metal development and a suggestion of the T-800 development,” says McG. “It’s going to be a tip of the hat. We’re undecided if there’s going to be an actual appearance.”

Man, I can’t believe I’m actually excited about seeing a fourth “Terminator” movie – especially after sitting through the last few episodes of that downright shitty “Sarah Connor” TV series.

Discuss this article in our Forums

[Drewza89]

I am all for Josh Brolin to be the new Terminator. I hope he has time in his schedule.


Schwarzenegger and Robert Patrick cameos would be cool....

[yorrick brown]

bale vs brolin.does sound to good to be true,but heres hoping.

[ilovemovies]

Oliver Stone's Bush biopic begins filming in April and that is when this movie is expected to begin as well. Unless it's a somewhat small part that he can fit, I doubt Brolin will be doing this. Unless he drops out of the Bush biopic but why on earth would drop Oliver Stone for McG?

[AdNauseum]

At least if McG manages to fuck up with such a great cast he'll never get his hands on such a big franchise again (I hope..)

Bale always seems to make wise choices in his roles - I'm on the fence until I see some footage/stills

[The Postmaster General]

I'm hoping Arnold isn't in another one unless he plays like the human who they modeled the Terminator after or something. I felt a charm to the Terminator series was the grim tones, and even though the second one had a big chunk of comedy compared to the first one, I felt the third was too light through most of it and then caught up in the awesome third act. It just didn't work for me. The inclusion of Arnold just took away the seriousness all the more. I'm sorry, the dude is in good shape, but cyborgs shouldn't age. His age just really showed and I couldn't suspend disbelief on a suspension of disbelief if you know what I mean.

No Arnold as a unstoppable robot, please. Cast him as human or not at all.

[Cosimo]

Possibly the worst movie news i have ever heard. MCG is a mazda who should stick to making Britney Spears videos. Awful casting too

[therealjohng]

I love Josh Brolin, but I just can't see him in this role.

[AspectRatio1986]

I love Brolin and I'm very happy to see how the last year went for him, but as The Terminator, c'mon!?!?

[Preston_79]

Josh Brolin as Terminator? I just have a hard time picturing a Terminator that's not just really fit looking. Brolin's a good actor, but the terminator doesn't have to be a very good actor, Arnold proved that. Not to say he needs to look like a bodybuilder, but what the hell.....Brolin?

There have been stranger casting choices that worked, so I'll try to be more optimistic.

[Shockwave]

Josh Brolin as Terminator? I just have a hard time picturing a Terminator that's not just really fit looking. Brolin's a good actor, but the terminator doesn't have to be a very good actor, Arnold proved that. Not to say he needs to look like a bodybuilder, but what the hell.....Brolin?

There have been stranger casting choices that worked, so I'll try to be more optimistic.


Brolin can get in shape, im sure.

If anything, id say hes almost over-qaulified for the role.:)

[biff_debris]

LOL, Brolin as Bush AND the Terminator in the same year. Poor guy.

[CyclicNightmare]

I just have a hard time picturing a Terminator that's not just really fit looking.
T-1000?

[Rukas]

Josh Brolin as Terminator? I just have a hard time picturing a Terminator that's not just really fit looking. Brolin's a good actor, but the terminator doesn't have to be a very good actor, Arnold proved that. Not to say he needs to look like a bodybuilder, but what the hell.....Brolin?

There have been stranger casting choices that worked, so I'll try to be more optimistic.

http://www.zenconsulting.net/jasonkehr/images/T1000.jpg

[yorrick brown]

yeah goodluck with this mcg!:rolleyes:.




New T4 director McG is thinking big — real big. After already nabbing a mega star in Christian Bale to star in the upcoming “Terminator” movie trilogy, McG (real name Joseph MCGinty Nichol) now wants to get award-winning actor Daniel Day Lewis to join the cast as well. That’s a pretty big wish list, and I don’t even know if sci-fi is something Lewis is interested in. This is, after all, the guy who just did “There Will be Blood”. Then again, this is also the guy who did “Gangs of New York” and the fantastic “Last of the Mohicans”, so you never know…

More:

“I’m looking for credible actors. We’ve already got Christian Bale, who is one of the greatest actors of his generation. “I’d love to get Daniel Day-Lewis, but I don’t know if he goes in for this kind of movie.” The 39-year-old faces a tough task winning the British actor over - he famously leaves lengthy intervals between movie projects, and rarely takes on big budget projects.

Daniel Day Lewis and Christian Bale in T4 would be awesome, but I don’t think there is a chance it will happen, unfortunately.

[APzombie]

note to directors: don't talk publicly about actors you want before they are cast.

[yorrick brown]

Sam worthington joins the cast .

from moviehole

So after not being able to join the G.I. Joe team as Duke, he joins McG's futuristic freedom fighters in the new Terminator film.


"Sources said McG spoke on the phone recently with Cameron, who is in New Zealand working on "Avatar." It was during that chat that he recommended Worthington, who in "Avatar" plays a paraplegic war veteran from Earth who's brought to another planet inhabited by a race of humanoids at odds with Earth's inhabitants" reports Variety.

The fact the Australian actor just played the lead in the James Cameron-directed "Avatar" is no coincidence. Cameron recommended Worthington to "Terminator Salvation" director McG, indicating that the director of the first two "Terminator" installments might be warming to the new pic.

While the "Terminator Salvation" plot has twists and turns that are being kept under tight wraps, Worthington will play the role of Marcus, a central figure in a three-picture arc that begins after Skynet has destroyed much of humanity in a nuclear holocaust. A group of survivors led by John Connor (Christian Bale) struggles to keep the machines from finishing the job.

[Tweek]

Fucking hell.

I'm so blind. lol I saw this news from today and I scrolled down to see if anyone had posted it and did I see this thread had been bumped? NO!

[Shockwave]

note to directors: don't talk publicly about actors you want before they are cast.


Thats what i was thinking.

Day Lewis probably read that and said "errrr,no."

I cant see him in a sci-fi movie. It just doesnt seem to be his thing.

I am happy they want an outstanding cast of actors, and not just any big name.

I keep looking forward to this, despite the alarms in my head going off.:p

[Silverload]

yeah goodluck with this mcg!:rolleyes:.




New T4 director McG is thinking big — real big. After already nabbing a mega star in Christian Bale to star in the upcoming “Terminator” movie trilogy, McG (real name Joseph MCGinty Nichol) now wants to get award-winning actor Daniel Day Lewis to join the cast as well. That’s a pretty big wish list, and I don’t even know if sci-fi is something Lewis is interested in. This is, after all, the guy who just did “There Will be Blood”. Then again, this is also the guy who did “Gangs of New York” and the fantastic “Last of the Mohicans”, so you never know…

More:

“I’m looking for credible actors. We’ve already got Christian Bale, who is one of the greatest actors of his generation. “I’d love to get Daniel Day-Lewis, but I don’t know if he goes in for this kind of movie.” The 39-year-old faces a tough task winning the British actor over - he famously leaves lengthy intervals between movie projects, and rarely takes on big budget projects.

Daniel Day Lewis and Christian Bale in T4 would be awesome, but I don’t think there is a chance it will happen, unfortunately.

I fucking knew it, McG is just trying to grab any and every "buzz of the moment" actor. Dude's such a fucking tool.

This movie is going to bomb like there's no tomorrow especially since the main hook for the Terminator series is no longer there. The future war is boring as hell and only works in small doses; beyond that it's just another tired and cliché dirty underdog rebels vs. the evil super empire story.

[APzombie]

it certainly appears that way doesn't it Silver? He seems to be jumping at actors who are really hot in town these days, not necessarily actors who are 'good for their role'.

If Day-Lewis turned down Nolan for the Ra's part in Batman Begins, i'm sure he'll jump on McG playing an unstoppable robot.

[MisterChristian]

May 22, 2009

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981449.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

[bigred760]

Wow . . . that's sooner than expected. I didn't know they had a script yet.

Christian Bale - good; McG - baaaaad.

[AspectRatio1986]

I love Bale, I love The Terminator. I truly hope this is good. I've always been fascinated with the war scenes from the trilogy, I hope that it can hold up over another trilogy.

[therealjohng]

I say this is gonna be PG-13 who wants to bet.

[bigred760]

I say this is gonna be PG-13 who wants to bet.

Oh that would be pathetically sad.

[JohnLocke2342]

terminator 3 made me piss blood. That movie was fucking terrible. When Arnold walked out of the bar with the gay pink sunglasses on I walked out of the theater. I finished it on dvd.

has anyone even seen the SCC on fox?? That show is almost as entertaining as me taking a shit for 3 hours. The acting is horrible and the second I saw the first preview of that stupid bitch kicking open the door of her truck and uttering the now famous "Come with me if you want to live" sounding like a 12 year old popstar rehearsing hannah montana, I wanted to sit on a cactus.

McG.. wait.. McG? Seriously? Ok well McG automatically means pg-13/a music video feel to the cinematography. McG also means no character development or detail what-so-ever, and one too many slow motion explosions. now you throw in a trilogy.. and if this studio wants to make some coin theyll make that trilogy pg-13 and fill the movie with a lot of shitty one liners and explosions, to lure the 13-17 year old crowd for most of their money. Don't forget that theyll cover up the shitty movie just right leading up to opening day, with cool teasers and posters, to decieve true terminator fans.. and then this turd will hit cinemas and we will all be on the forums about how McG fucked up Terminator and how the movie sucked.

and then with the first part of a trilogy they invested millions of dollars in getting ripped apart by fans and movie critics; theyll release the movie on DVD in an unrated director's cut with 23 minutes of never before seen footage, violence, cursing and gore.

But, it'll be too late, and the plans for a second or third movie will go down like a turd with this excuse of a film.

[bigred760]

terminator 3 made me piss blood. That movie was fucking terrible. When Arnold walked out of the bar with the gay pink sunglasses on I walked out of the theater. I finished it on dvd.

has anyone even seen the SCC on fox?? That show is almost as entertaining as me taking a shit for 3 hours. The acting is horrible and the second I saw the first preview of that stupid bitch kicking open the door of her truck and uttering the now famous "Come with me if you want to live" sounding like a 12 year old popstar rehearsing hannah montana, I wanted to sit on a cactus.

McG.. wait.. McG? Seriously? Ok well McG automatically means pg-13/a music video feel to the cinematography. McG also means no character development or detail what-so-ever, and one too many slow motion explosions. now you throw in a trilogy.. and if this studio wants to make some coin theyll make that trilogy pg-13 and fill the movie with a lot of shitty one liners and explosions, to lure the 13-17 year old crowd for most of their money. Don't forget that theyll cover up the shitty movie just right leading up to opening day, with cool teasers and posters, to decieve true terminator fans.. and then this turd will hit cinemas and we will all be on the forums about how McG fucked up Terminator and how the movie sucked.

and then with the first part of a trilogy they invested millions of dollars in getting ripped apart by fans and movie critics; theyll release the movie on DVD in an unrated director's cut with 23 minutes of never before seen footage, violence, cursing and gore.

But, it'll be too late, and the plans for a second or third movie will go down like a turd with this excuse of a film.


So you'll be there opening day? :D

[JohnLocke2342]

haha of course!

Terminator 2 is one of my favorite movies of all-time, easily. I would just hate to see a trilogy built on a studio trying to make a buck. I would love the idea of a fourth one, but right now it's looking horrible.

[Shockwave]

I say this is gonna be PG-13 who wants to bet.

That would lead me to skipping it in theatres, just like the last DIE HARD.:)

..ans then maybe picking up the unrated cut on dvd if shmoes say its good.

[IHRTNJ]

Maybe a lot of you would agree with me, it seems as if with every new Terminator venture they just keep fuckin' shit up more and more. It's like they just keep creating more and more new plot holes with alternate time lines, paradoxes, etc. and what not. I mean I was anticipating the Sarah Connor Chronicles forever! Then the first show premiered and it was like blah. I thought they could have done soooooo much better with it, I mean it was in production forever and they had more than enough time to work out the kinks and plot holes that might have surfaced. They just completely undermined T3 and I read it's supposed to be an alternate story to T3... I MEAN C'MON!!! The series kind of undermines the whole trilogy for that matter if you pay that much attention to detail like I and many of you. And that goes without saying as much as I like Christian Bale as an actor how many John Connors do we need in this world? John Connor is like the new Batman (no pun intended) they just keep switching actors with just about every movie. Last time I checked Edward Furlong wasn't doing shit and if they did make another Terminator movie I'd love to see him assume the role as the leader of the resistance once again...

[IHRTNJ]

That would lead me to skipping it in theatres, just like the last DIE HARD.:)

..ans then maybe picking up the unrated cut on dvd if shmoes say its good.

Oh and I'm sorry to double post but the last "DIE HARD" KICKED FUCKIN' ASS!!! You couldn't watch it any other way except for in theaters!

[ilovemovies]

The Sarah Connor Chronicles was an incredibly mediocre show. However, I fucking loved Terminator 3. Infact, this maybe blasphemous to some people but I don't care, I loved Terminator 3 more than the first one.

And I think McG is not too bad a director. The Charlie Angels flicks, while not great were nevertheless entertaining and he did an excellent job with We Are Marshall. Plus, the guy's an executive producer of two of my favorite tv shows: Supernatural and Chuck. He also executive produced the short lived but hella fun action show Fastlane and even directed the pilot of both Fastlane and Chuck. He also did The OC which I loved. So McG is underrated.

And then you have Christian Bale playing John Connor.

Everything I've heard has lead me to believe that this movie will ROCK!

[Silverload]

The Sarah Connor Chronicles was an incredibly mediocre show. However, I fucking loved Terminator 3. Infact, this maybe blasphemous to some people but I don't care, I loved Terminator 3 more than the first one.

And I think McG is not too bad a director. The Charlie Angels flicks, while not great were nevertheless entertaining and he did an excellent job with We Are Marshall. Plus, the guy's an executive producer of two of my favorite tv shows: Supernatural and Chuck. He also executive produced the short lived but hella fun action show Fastlane and even directed the pilot of both Fastlane and Chuck. He also did The OC which I loved. So McG is underrated.

And then you have Christian Bale playing John Connor.

Everything I've heard has lead me to believe that this movie will ROCK!

Your post just killed a dozen kittens and five puppies, in addition to turning all rainbows gray. :eek:

[ilovemovies]

Happy to do so then. :)

[JohnLocke2342]

The Sarah Connor Chronicles was an incredibly mediocre show. However, I fucking loved Terminator 3. Infact, this maybe blasphemous to some people but I don't care, I loved Terminator 3 more than the first one.

And I think McG is not too bad a director. The Charlie Angels flicks, while not great were nevertheless entertaining and he did an excellent job with We Are Marshall. Plus, the guy's an executive producer of two of my favorite tv shows: Supernatural and Chuck. He also executive produced the short lived but hella fun action show Fastlane and even directed the pilot of both Fastlane and Chuck. He also did The OC which I loved. So McG is underrated.

And then you have Christian Bale playing John Connor.

Everything I've heard has lead me to believe that this movie will ROCK!


Can I ask why you liked Terminator 3 better then the original? As insanely stupid as that sounds, I'm sure you have a good reason. I like to hear other people's views.

Plus, what is "everything you heard" about this movie that led you to believe it will rock besides Christian Bale? Because McG is a horrible fucking choice for a franchise trilogy to be dropped in his lap. He directs music videos.. Charlie's Angels are notoriously bad, and We Are Marshall was a complete waste of my time.

[ilovemovies]

Loved the action, loved the T-X, loved Arnie and Nick Stahl and Claire Danes, loved the ending. It was just a great, wild, exciting ride. The crane chase is one for the ages. It was seriously an awesome, awesome chase.

I just think it's a more exciting movie than the first one. They are both 8/10's though. The second one (a 10/10) is still easily the best though.


The Charlie Angels movies I found to be very enjoyable. Especially the second one, which was hilarious.

I found We Are Marshall to be very moving. And while Mathew McConaughey gave an uneven performance (sometimes he was annoying but other times he was effective) the rest of the cast, especially Mathew Fox, David Straigtheirn, Ian McShane and some of the kids, were great.


Everything about Terminator 4's storyline sounds awesome to me. Then you have Bale as John Connor and Bale has been on a role since at least The Machinist (actually I would say Reign of Fire which I enjoyed a lot) and unlike some people, I do trust the movie in McG's hands.

And the movie seems to have James Cameron's seal of approval, which may not mean a lot to most people, but I think it bodes well for the movie.

[JohnLocke2342]

James Cameron's seal of approval means greatness. :D Aliens, Terminator, Titanic, True Lies..

[Silverload]

And the movie seems to have James Cameron's seal of approval, which may not mean a lot to most people, but I think it bodes well for the movie.

When did this get his seal of approval? Just because Cameron recommended Sam Worthington? I doubt Cameron even read the screenplay before throwing Worthington's name out there (or has read it ever). Besides, it only helps Avatar to get Worthington's attached to a big summer movie. It's kind of like what Spielberg did for Shia LaBeouf.

[biff_debris]

I own Terminator. I even like it better than the second one, simply for the cheesy 80s vibe (and killer Brad Fiedel music). Want to get the second one, but it's pretty low at the list of stuff I have yet to get. Borrowed the third one from a guy at work -- was fun to watch. Don't think I'll ever get it.

As for any more, I'm not that anxious. Especially when the guy who did the Charlie's Angels movies is directing it.

[God of War]

Warner Bros has set McG's "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins" on May 22nd, 2009, the start of Memorial Day weekend. That puts two tentpoles on the same date, even though the release calendar for summer 2009 is still relatively open.

http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/headline7046.jpg

Twentieth Century Fox had already staked out May 22nd for the bow of the Ben Stiller sequel "Night at the Museum II: Escape From the Smithsonian." First film grossed $250.9 million domestically.

Warner will distribute the pic in North America through a deal with Halcyon Co., which owns all franchise rights to the "Terminator" series.

The last film in the franchise, "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines," bowed in 2003 and grossed $150.4 million domestically.

"T4" begins lensing in New Mexico for two months on May 5th. The state has become a favorite locale for producers because of its production tax incentives.

Storyline is being kept under tight wraps, but plot is part of a planned three-picture arc that begins after Skynet has destroyed much of humanity in a nuclear holocaust. A group of survivors led by John Connor (Christian Bale) struggles to stop the machines. Sam Worthington (Avatar) is in talks to star as well.

[Rukas]

The Sarah Connor Chronicles is actually better than all three of the movies combined...

...

..

.

Ok I kid. But it definitly is better than Terminator 3; more so because it totally ignores that movie and pretends it never happened; something I have been trying to do since I first saw it.

[IHRTNJ]

ok so i know i'm not supposed to post about something other than the movie but i guess it is related for the sake of going just a wee bit off topic... Ok so like as bad as the show is, I still watch it. For entertainment's sake and well I'm a big fan of the franchise like just about everyone on this thread right now. So with that being said I want to know what you guys think... Do you guys think it might be possible that the show or new film will tie into each other in some way? Oh and is it just me or am I the only one who noticed and thought of something in the show's season finale... That if John Connor can see little Kyle Reese and Derek can see a younger version of himself wouldn't it be safe to say that John could run into the 24 yr old version of himself? And I think that little spanish chick is a terminator herself because she doens't say anything and she kinda has that stiff thing going on just like Cameron and speaking of Cameron is it also safe to say that her character was named after James, the god of the franchise?

[yorrick brown]

new title




chud.com


Look, no one believed that the mouthful that was Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins ever stood a chance of cluttering a megaplex marquee, so the fact that it's been scrapped before the completion of principal photography is hardly a surprise. But rather than go with the obvious solution (numeral and stupid subtitle), Warner Brothers is apparently spitballing fancy replacements (in honor of devouring New Line, the studio should work Pacific Air 121* in there). That's a lot of unnecessary work for a franchise moniker, but, hell, where would this business be without unnecessary work? And what better way to burn an afternoon than a lazy brainstorming session?

I'm not saying I have sources on WB's Burbank lot, but I do hear things. And while there's a lot of intentional disinformation leaking out of this production (sorry, but no Terminator Babies), I am 100% certain that the title below is the approved-by-McG replacement. Dig it:



Terminator: The Return of the Terminator



Simple. Fucking. Perfection. Just remember where you heard it first.

Terminator: The Return of the Terminator hits theaters May 22, 2009.

[Digifruitella]

They used a bit too much comedy in the third one and even though I laughed I also have to admit that it was inappropriate for a Terminator film.

On the other hand, I didn't laugh. If we're comparing T2 with T3, the comedy in the latest one is forced and falls flat. What made T2's comedy bits great is how it comes off natural. That, and because JC can actually write it.

[teenkiller]

James Cameron's seal of approval means greatness. :D Aliens, Terminator, Titanic, True Lies..

You forgot Piranha II! I never actually saw it though. I just wanted to mention PIRANHA II!

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[john_rambo]

i like the delays... that means in 2011 arnold can come on.. WOOHOO!

But I like Terminator 3... I've never gotten the hate for it.

[yorrick brown]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1338/yelchinkp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1338/yelchinkp6.ccd656bb4f.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=529&i=yelchinkp6.jpg)

Anton Yelchin is getting a lot of play right now. He'll be young Chekov in JJ Abrams' STAR TREK. He was great in Charlie Bartlett and has been a strong actor in everything from the vastly underwatched Showtime series HUFF to ALPHA DOG.

he`s now been cast as the Young Kyle Reese

[ilovemovies]

Yelchin is really developing into a great actor. He was excellent in Alpha Dog and superb in Charlie Bartlett.

Can't wait to see him in Star Trek and this.

[yorrick brown]

he`s going for the big time now.

[Cop No. 633]

I like Anton. I think he's a good actor but let me be the first to say --

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


....


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..........


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[yorrick brown]

goodnews,yes?


stan winston is back

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/node/36081

[Cronos]

Yeah, thats good news, still doesn't make up for McG directing.

[yorrick brown]

Yeah, thats good news, still doesn't make up for McG directing.

does he have a real name or is he named after a hamburger?.


Happy Easter Lads and Lasses,

Seems Cinemablend.com and TheArnoldFans.com have some fresh "Terminator 4" (or whatever the heck they end up calling it) news. The latter has confirmation that Stan Winston will resume his role as the robot builder on the sequel, whilst Cinema Blend has some interesting plot details about the film :

A scooper tells the site that the character of Kyle Reese will be a central character in the next three films and that his relationship with John Connor will be similar to that of Anakin and Obi-Wan in the "Star Wars" prequels. saying “Just like the Star Wars prequels when it was the relationship between Anakin and Obi Wan that drove the three films, that's the concept for the new Terminator films when its between the relationship of Kyle and John, who is really father and son but with the moral dilemma with John knowing what has to be done in order for him to be born.”

Visit the site for more potential plot points for the film, including a link to TVs "Terminator : Sarah Connor Chronicles

[Scorpio24]

I must have been one of the only people on planet Earth that wasn't that fussed on the Terminator series. The lot of them have bored me to be honest. There's been some great little moments but all in all i'll be quite content if I never have to watch them again.

[yorrick brown]

from chud

And another internet rumor bites the dust. This weekend a story made the rounds here on the Information Superhighway that Terminator 4 had been shut down, just a few weeks before it was due to start filming. If that rumor were true, it would make the announcement of the casting of Moon Bloodgood as the female lead pretty weird. So we're going to have to assume that T4 isn't shut down at all. I know this is probably bumming a lot of you out.

Bloodgood, who might have the best name ever, will be playing what the Hollywood Reporter calls 'a no-nonsense and battle-hardened member of the resistance who is carrying a lot of guilt over surviving the nuclear holocaust.' Pre-strike there was one real female role in the script, a character who was a pilot and who could very well be the role that Bloodgood is playing. I do think there's been some work on the script since the strike ended, though, and I understand that there may be more female roles. Still, I'd assume that Bloodgood isn't playing Kate Brewster.

Filming starts on the Cinco de Mayo.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/AprilFox58/MoonBloodgood-1.jpg

[JJFlamingo]

Wow. Thanks for setting us straight Yorrick!

[ilovemovies]

I liked her in the tv series Day Break.

[biff_debris]

I'm sorry but Yelchin creeped me out in Charlie Bartlett. He reminded me of a white (insert pun here) Michael Jackson.

[Ratlehed]

from chud

And another internet rumor bites the dust. This weekend a story made the rounds here on the Information Superhighway that Terminator 4 had been shut down, just a few weeks before it was due to start filming. If that rumor were true, it would make the announcement of the casting of Moon Bloodgood as the female lead pretty weird. So we're going to have to assume that T4 isn't shut down at all. I know this is probably bumming a lot of you out.

Bloodgood, who might have the best name ever, will be playing what the Hollywood Reporter calls 'a no-nonsense and battle-hardened member of the resistance who is carrying a lot of guilt over surviving the nuclear holocaust.' Pre-strike there was one real female role in the script, a character who was a pilot and who could very well be the role that Bloodgood is playing. I do think there's been some work on the script since the strike ended, though, and I understand that there may be more female roles. Still, I'd assume that Bloodgood isn't playing Kate Brewster.

Filming starts on the Cinco de Mayo.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/AprilFox58/MoonBloodgood-1.jpg



I hope this movie doesnt get too cliche'. The hot girl that kicks ass has been done way too much. What are the chances of a girl looking like that after the world was nuked 8x over.

[yorrick brown]

the governator has said he would love to cameo in t4

read more here
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20080424_arnold_would_be_a_part_of_termi.html

[CyclicNightmare]

Won't happen.

[bigred760]

I hope this movie doesnt get too cliche'. The hot girl that kicks ass has been done way too much. What are the chances of a girl looking like that after the world was nuked 8x over.

I doubt she'll be wearing those earrings.

[max314]

I thought the third one was great, but no need for a new trilogy.

Really?

You "thought the third one was great"?

What did you like about it?

[castlesave]

hated the third one. terminator started having too many feelings and emotions. took his clothes from a male stripper then put those stupid sunglasses on. sounds bad to say but a woman terminator was just stupid. shouldnt have inserted a love interest.

that being said. are they just making like the tv series didnt happen?

[FireCaptain4]

You forgot Piranha II! I never actually saw it though. I just wanted to mention PIRANHA II!

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

JC always gets shit for that, but he only worked on that project for a few days, bringing in the quivalent to only a few minutes of footage for the film- at most.

[ilovemovies]

Really?

You "thought the third one was great"?

What did you like about it?


I'm with you on Speed Racer, buth this time I gotta side with Bourne. I too thought Terminator 3 was great. Infact, I actually liked it more than the first one.

[FireCaptain4]

hated the third one. terminator started having too many feelings and emotions. took his clothes from a male stripper then put those stupid sunglasses on. sounds bad to say but a woman terminator was just stupid. shouldnt have inserted a love interest.

that being said. are they just making like the tv series didnt happen?

I agree on your major points, but I have to say I don't hate it.

At times it felt as if Arnie wasn't even playing a machine any more (hence, as you mentioned, the over-done emotion). The sripper part came off as cheesy, as did the over-done fights between Arnie and that fem-bot.

The fem-bot, on the other hand, wasn't scary at all IMO, whereas Robert Patrick still scares the hell outta me. Personally, I think Chiwetel Ejiofor (think about 'Serenity') would have been a good main villian in T3. Not only is he a good actor, but it's new spin on the Terminator villians because he's African-American.

Besides Claire Danes, which I had no problem believing in, the rest of the cast felt like they were just dancing around, reading lines. I didn't believe the characters. When Nick Stahl threatens to kill himself, I laugh.

The score, I might add, didn't stand out to me either. In the previous films I don't just remember the scores, I remember the scenes in which the music was played- that's a sign of successful craftsmanship.

Then again, maybe I'm bias, since I grew up watching the first two films as a little sprout.

[FireCaptain4]

Whenever you guys want to get a glimpse of how cool Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines could have been, watch the trailers for it. Those trailers kick so much ass it's unreal. Sadly, while I don't think T3 is bad (I still like it, not nearly as much as the first two, but it's cool with me) it isn't nearly as good as the trailer made it out to be.

Personally, I don't even really think of T3 as a sequel or a Terminator film for that matter. To me, its as if it was a recommendation on Amazon or something. I convince myself it is a companion piece or a spin-off in order to enjoy it.

[a7xfan]

this is my first time entering this thread, nevermind posting in it, but i guess i'll make a contribution (however little it may be)

i dont see the point of this, then again i didn't see the point of the third one. i think that they are shitting on a good couple of films that cameron made, terminator-good, terminator 2-great. i dont pay much attention to the franchise, but how many times are they gonna go bacvk and fourth with john connor. its really boring, and to make a fucking tv show about it, is even worse.

i will not be supporting this at all.

[MisterChristian]

From Variety:


'Terminator' guns for kid-friendly rating
Halcyon aims to deliever PG-13 movie

The "Terminator" will indeed be back -- but this time with a more kid-friendly rating.

As production starts today on "Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins," the next installment in the action franchise, producers at the Halcyon Co. say they aim to deliver a PG-13 movie to Warner Bros. for release on May 22, 2009.

The "Terminator" series is one of the highest-grossing R-rated franchises of all time, with the first three films having grossed more than $1.03 billion worldwide. But Halcyon producers thought it was time to broaden the upcoming fourth film's audience base, and they believe the PG-13 won't compromise the series' gritty vision.

"The ratings have changed," said Halcyon co-founder and co-CEO Victor Kubicek, a broker-turned-writer-producer. "The PG-13 has increased in intensity."

Move follows last year's "Die Hard" film, "Live Free or Die Hard," which went out with a PG-13 after three prior R-rated installments. That pic went on to gross $382.1 million worldwide, making it the highest-grossing in the series.

A family-friendly rating opens many doors, including a "Terminator Salvation" licensing deal for action figures with Playmates Toys.

"Our merchandising program will be the largest to date for 'The Terminator,' " said Halcyon co-founder and co-CEO Derek Anderson, ex-owner of ad agency In the Mix, who adds that he had not discussed the possibility of an R-rating with Warners. "We won't force it. We are carrying on in the tradition of the mythology, with an exciting approach to the action. If we can make a compelling film to reach the widest audience, why wouldn't we do it?"

Halcyon has already launched Halcyon Games to create a "Terminator" game for release at the same time as the movie. "The first three games were all bad," Anderson said. "The core fans are screaming for something fresh; they won't be just playing the movie."

Anderson and Kubicek founded the Halcyon Co. in 2006 with funding from Wall Street hedge funds and private investors. They scooped up rights to the "Terminator" franchise from Carolco's Andy Vajna and Mario Kassar for an undisclosed sum as that company was closing down in May 2007.

Warners acquired rights to domestic theatrical and TV distribution on "Terminator: Salvation," while Sony obtained international distrib rights, less some territories. Halcyon brought in Moritz Borman to exec produce and hired "Terminator 3" scripters John D. Brancato and Michael Ferris to script. Paul Haggis did a polish. McG directs.

Set in post-apocalyptic 2029, an adult John Connor, played by Christian Bale, leads the war to save humanity from the killing machines.

Signing Bale, who also stars in the current "Batman" series, was a huge coup. Sam Worthington, who fronts franchise creator James Cameron's upcoming "Avatar," also stars. The Terminator role is still under wraps; speculation centers on Josh Brolin.

PG-13??! FUCK THAT....

Sounds like they're doing the film to push the merchandising. *sigh*

[ilovemovies]

Please tell me this is some sort of cruel prank? :(

[yorrick brown]

Could this movie suck anymore ...answer yes!!.Christian bale signed on for this crap,for real???.

[Tagia_Romero]

... A PG Terminator film?...

I'm no mathematician, but I know a bad equation when I see one. Hopefully this is either a gaff or else it's just a cover up rating.

[Rukas]

They could actually pull it off simply because Terminator was rated R because of the self mutilation and damage that Arnold goes through as a cyborg that doesnt feel pain. Terminator 2 copped an R rating for the same reason, plus the assault on police officers.

However considering neither a police department nor flesh covered Terminators exist (yet) in T4 these are not an issue. This is the future war, with less advanced robots as Arnold's model, and then Robert Patricks, comes further down the timeline.

And it is not like Terminator was known for its language like Die Hard was. So I think a gritty dark future world is definitly doable as a PG13 movie.

[crodger]

Have faith! Just remember, if Anderson could pull off a PG-13 AVP, then McG can pull of a PG-13 Terminator. ;)

[AndrewDB]

Have faith! Just remember, if Anderson could pull off a PG-13 AVP, then McG can pull of a PG-13 Terminator. ;)


Who said Anderson pulled off AVP? :mad:

My anticipation for this movie just fell much the way bricks fly.

[crodger]

Who said Anderson pulled off AVP? :mad:

My anticipation for this movie just fell much the way bricks fly.

I was kidding. Hence the little winking man. AVP was a mess.

[Elgyn]

Great, just great.

I wonder how long until "Aliens VS Terminator"..........which, of course, will be rated PG-13.

[MidnightAngel]

A PG-13 rated Terminator film? Obviously that's called a Ca$hcowminator. :rolleyes:

After Terminator 2 it ended the Terminator franchise(Terminator 4, The Sarah Connor Chrolicles)for me.

[Kevin Smith fan]

Anticipation for a new Terminator: 100%
After seeing T3: -40%
After hearing Bale is playing John Conner: +10%
After hearing McG is directing: -30%
After hearing its rated PG-13: -88%

Fuck this.

[Preston_79]

I'm not bothered by the pg 13 rating. I wish it would be R, but it's just not that big a deal to me. The really graphic violence isn't a necessary component to a good Terminator film. However, you do need real dialog which contain a heap of foul language that won't happen with a pg-13 rating. A skilled director can still give you thrills, chills, and an impending sense of doom even with the lower rating, but I like foul language, it makes the scenes with no action more interesting and real.

[bigred760]

I don't think it'll feel like a Terminator movie if it was PG-13. The extreme violence was part of what made it tense and exciting. With a PG-13 flick, you won't see any killings, blood, or anything like that. It'll just be a whole bunch of shootings, with nothing being hit onscreen.

Pathetic move.

[JohnLocke2342]

Anticipation for a new Terminator: 100%
After seeing T3: -40%
After hearing Bale is playing John Conner: +10%
After hearing McG is directing: -30%
After hearing its rated PG-13: -88%

Fuck this.

haha I agree.. this movie is gonna booommmmmbbbbb

[AspectRatio1986]

It's sad to see beloved franchises go down the shitter. Hopefully Bale can make something out of it though...I'll remain slightly hopeful...for now.

[Shockwave]

FUCK. THIS. SHIT.

PG-13= no way im seeing this:mad:

[jaw2929]

Still looking forward to it.... I think it fucking sucks ASS that it's PG-13, that's fucking horrible. BUT it will have Christian Bale in it, and that's all I need, in order to see it.

[Rukas]

Common signed on to star in this as one of John Connor's inner circle of friends.

I must say, PG13 shit aside, and McG aside, the talent in this film is really impressive thus far.

[Da Machete]

still looking really forward to this
dispite all the negs!

[a7xfan]

well this is so obviously going to be dog shit, pg-13.

everything is fucking pg-13 nowadays, fuck this fucking industry.

ha i even bet that somehow friday the 13th will be pg-13

[Da Machete]

pg 13, dont matter 2 me,
will be there def on opening night!

[MisterTwister]

pg 13, dont matter 2 me,
will be there def on opening night!

It's cause of people like you we're getting everything PG-13 these days.

[Silverload]

Common signed on to star in this as one of John Connor's inner circle of friends.

I must say, PG13 shit aside, and McG aside, the talent in this film is really impressive thus far.


Yeah, but McG is what's going to determine the outcome of this film. A movie can have a good script and a good cast, but if the director is crap then the film will be too. Even Uwe Boll gets impressive talent for his films.

[DME]

I'm not usually the type who blindly rants against all that is PG-13, but I can't fathom how the Terminator movies can be the same without maintaining an R rating. This reminds me of the travesty that is Robocop 3.

[pablo_super1!]

Ok I'm really angry about the maybe PG-13 rating, but if done right By McG it can be good.

I'm glad it'll have Christian Bale who is great in almost everything he does and Common who I loved in Smokin Aces and I think might has some great acting Talent.

Here's some more info just released on the Joblo main page about the character Common's laying.

Streethop.com (http://www.streethop.com/forums/articles/120384.html) claims that Common is playing a character we (and John Connor) have already met in T2, namely the grown-up version of Daniel Dyson. You'll recall that his dad Miles (played by Joe Morton) accidentally contributed to the creation of SkyNet, and then helped stop it, except not really. So, y'know, whoops. Thanks to 'Rukas' for the tip!

http://www.joblo.com/a-common-terminator

[yorrick brown]

and so it begins

'Terminator 4' starts filming despite strike fears
3:45PM Thursday May 08, 2008



Christian Bale will star in the new Terminator film.
LOS ANGELES - He'll be back - Hollywood strike or no strike!

Cameras began rolling this week on the latest Terminator movie - estimated to cost about $150 million - for what many Hollywood watchers say is a late start given concerns that labor tensions could lead to an actors strike by July.

Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, began shooting on Monday in New Mexico, bucking a trend in which studios have mostly avoided launching new productions they cannot be sure of completing before the Screen Actors Guild contract expires on June 30, a date being treated as a facto strike deadline.

SAG and Hollywood's major studios hit a stalemate on Tuesday after three weeks of talks, stoking fears of renewed Hollywood labor unrest after a 100-day screenwriters strike that ended in February.

Union leaders say they still hope to reach a deal without resorting to a walkout, and SAG has yet to even seek authorization from its 120,000 members to call a strike.


with tens of millions of dollars at stake in making a movie, few studios and filmmakers are taking any chances. One exception is the team behind Terminator.

Warner Bros is the US distributor for the fourth Terminator starring Christian Bale and set to reach theaters in May 2009. Sony Pictures is handling international distribution.

The two studios had a similar deal for 2003's Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, which grossed $433 million worldwide and was the last film in the franchise to star Arnold Schwarzenegger as the unstoppable cyborg from the future who made the line, "I'll be back," a worldwide catchphrase.

[Shockwave]

I hope the actors strike right in the middle of this.

McG and PG-13 pretty much kill whatever hope i had of this movie actualy having some balls to it.

[Jig Saw 123]

I really don't judge a movie by a MPAA rating it receives. I'll wait until we get pics or trailer to make any judgment.

[Shockwave]

I really don't judge a movie by a MPAA rating it receives. I'll wait until we get pics or trailer to make any judgment.

Its more the director and how he has never made anything better then "okay" movies, along with a forced PG-13 rating right from the beginning that make me think this will have alot of cartoon action and alot less grit.

PG-13 apocalyptic action movies based on heavily R rated franchises just dont work very well for me. Really, try and think of a PG-13 T2.

Luckily, im sure there will be a R rated dvd/blue-ray with 2 more cuss words and a squirt of blood, as studios are fond of doing.:mad:

[ilovemovies]

I personally think We Are Marshall is better than just okay.

Plus, he's the creater of one of my favorite shows on tv, The CW's Supernatural.

[p_gautam]

Aint it Cool news reports - Charlotte Gainsbourg will play Kate Connor(presumably Kate Brewster fom T3). The role was originated by Claire Danes in T3.

Full article with minor spoilers -

In the highly anticipated new installment of The Terminator film franchise, set in post-apocalyptic 2018, Christian Bale stars as John Connor, the man fated to lead the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators. But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington), a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynet's operations, where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind.

[AndrewDB]

Aint it Cool news reports - Charlotte Gainsbourg will play Kate Connor(presumably Kate Brewster fom T3). The role was originated by Claire Danes in T3.

http://mog.com/pictures/wikipedia/101721/CharlotteG_Devan.jpg


She's kinda cute.

[FireCaptain4]

I have a problem with films that announce they have a rating they are shooting for before they even start to make the movie. Film makers should concentrate on making the best film they possibly can, regardless of ratings. When filmmakers are constantly thinking "Hey, he can't say this/do this cause we are making a PG-13 movie! Go to the editing room, Mr. Screenplay, and water the scene down!" they sacrifice the potential of a film, especially a film like Terminator.

[FireCaptain4]

Luckily, im sure there will be a R rated dvd/blue-ray with 2 more cuss words and a squirt of blood, as studios are fond of doing.:mad:

:rolleyes: Kudos!

[ERIN_LoJ]

You forgot Piranha II! I never actually saw it though. I just wanted to mention PIRANHA II!

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

Ahahaha I thought of Piranha II when I saw his thread. And I've seen it (sadly)

I haven't even bothered watching the third yet. It may work as a fourth since it's set in the future and they're not rehashing the same ol' story, we'll see...

[ERIN_LoJ]

I have a problem with films that announce they have a rating they are shooting for before they even start to make the movie. Film makers should concentrate on making the best film they possibly can, regardless of ratings. When filmmakers are constantly thinking "Hey, he can't say this/do this cause we are making a PG-13 movie! Go to the editing room, Mr. Screenplay, and water the scene down!" they sacrifice the potential of a film, especially a film like Terminator.

Egg-zactly. This is clearly what happened to the previously mentioned AVP. They were going for a cool shot, then - oh, wait a minute, step back. Why we must take adult series and water them down to include younger audiences based on ludicrous MPAA ratings is beyond me.

[JohnLocke2342]

Egg-zactly. This is clearly what happened to the previously mentioned AVP. They were going for a cool shot, then - oh, wait a minute, step back. Why we must take adult series and water them down to include younger audiences based on ludicrous MPAA ratings is beyond me.

simple. $:D$

[KCJ506]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45588

Bryce Dallas Howard Joining Terminator
Source: The Hollywood Reporter June 2, 2008


Bryce Dallas Howard is in negotiations to replace Charlotte Gainsbourg in Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Gainsbourg was originally set to play Kate Connor, the wife of human resistance hero John Connor (Christian Bale). The actress had to bow out because of scheduling conflicts with another film, a French comedy.

Production on "Terminator," directed by McG, is already underway in New Mexico. If an actors strike were to happen, shooting would stop and then restart at a later date.

Howard last starred as Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man 3 and next stars in the The Loss of a Teardrop Diamond.

[AspectRatio1986]

I love her

[someguy]

AICN has a rumour about the film's ending that is pretty horrible if true.

[JohnLocke2342]

AICN has a rumour about the film's ending that is pretty horrible if true.

isn't that the whole movie tho?

[bigred760]

AICN has a rumour about the film's ending that is pretty horrible if true.

I just read it . . . f*cking insane if it's true.

[AspectRatio1986]

If this is true...they pretty much just pissed on two of the greatest movies ever made. Even though I am interested to see films on the actual war between humans and machines, I really hope they don't disrespect (well I guess they already did that with PG-13 and no Arnie confirmed yet) the original two that much.

[CuatroDiablos]

Whatever...if it's good it's good.

But MCg (whatever his name is) is weak as hell.

[xseanymacx]

That synopsis posted my gautam seems like it could do the pg-13 rating pretty easy. Seems like #2 would have the big war/battles. This first one seems like a quest type movie.

[Moviefan1234]

But MCg (whatever his name is) is weak as hell.

WE ARE MARSHALL was a very impressive film.

[APzombie]

Every new bit of news has been worse and worse lately.

I really dug Charlotte Gainsbourg being cast. She a wonder of an actress and more importantly a woman, the kind that would make Linda Hamilton proud.

No offense, Bryce Dallas Howard is and always will be a girl. I could hardly imagine her lifting a pistol let alone leading a revolution next to Conner. It just goes to show the kind of fantasy 'Charlies Angels' action film McG is probably going for.

[someguy]

looks like that rumour is actually true

http://chud.com/articles/articles/14987/1/THE-TRUTH-BEHIND-THAT-SHOCKING-AICN-TERMINATOR-4-SPOILER/Page1.html

[Scarfather]

This franchise was already in the pits when Cameron left and 3 was shit. And they expect people's trust in the Terminator brand to be reestablished with McG? Sorry, but-

Lame joke that spoils Terminator 4:

unless they've got someone with talent to impersonate him, this movie is a rental at best.

[Silverload]

looks like that rumour is actually true

http://chud.com/articles/articles/14987/1/THE-TRUTH-BEHIND-THAT-SHOCKING-AICN-TERMINATOR-4-SPOILER/Page1.html

So, this is basically ripping off Battle Angel Alita, thus screwing Cameron twice. Yay McG, you're so awesome. :mad:

[Moviefan1234]

looks like that rumour is actually true

http://chud.com/articles/articles/14987/1/THE-TRUTH-BEHIND-THAT-SHOCKING-AICN-TERMINATOR-4-SPOILER/Page1.html

Doesn't look that way.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45626

[Raimo69]

I really don't know who to belive. I guess we will just have to wait for the movie to come out. If that ending is true. MCG might want to find a good hiding spot.

[someguy]

Oh please, of course McG is going to deny it.

[therealjohng]

Seriously did any of you actually have any hopes for this? This thing was practically dead on arrival.

[CyclicNightmare]

Doesn't look that way.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45626
Could be damage control.

[Moviefan1234]

Could be damage control.

It's a distinct possibility, but I doubt it. McG is a huge fan of the series, he wouldn't have an ending like that, at least I sure hope he wouldn't. Besides, in Bale I trust.

[JohnLocke2342]

I guess we'll get a real sense of what we're dealing with when we see the teaser. Unless, of course, it's anything like the Pirates of the Caribbean teaser. Which had numerous shots of the ocean and islands that weren't even part of the movie.

[MisterTwister]

I want to be interested in this and can't. I just don't give a flying fuck about it.

Bale being the exception.

[Silverload]

It's a distinct possibility, but I doubt it. McG is a huge fan of the series, he wouldn't have an ending like that, at least I sure hope he wouldn't. Besides, in Bale I trust.

Anderson & the Strause Brothers are huge Alien & Predator fans and look how their movies turned out, and Anderson is a much better director than McG.

There is one thing I know McG is going to do with this flick, and I can already tell it from the teaser description. He is going to make the action all slick and MTVish (teenagers will get a kick out of the trailers for sure). The Terminator should have a raw realism to it (that's what made the action so great and intense). Matrix-like stylized action has no place in a Terminator film. I'm sure this movie will suck on many more levels, but I think this is what will sting the most.

[crodger]

Anderson & the Strause Brothers are huge Alien & Predator fans and look how their movies turned out, and Anderson is a much better director than McG.

There is one thing I know McG is going to do with this flick, and I can already tell it from the teaser description. He is going to make the action all slick and MTVish (teenagers will get a kick out of the trailers for sure). The Terminator should have a raw realism to it (that's what made the action so great and intense). Matrix-like stylized action has no place in a Terminator film. I'm sure this movie will suck on many more levels, but I think this is what will sting the most.

Spot on. Great post. Mostow got the action right in T3. What we don't need here is a director who is gonna go all Michael Bay on our asses. I'm not having a dig at Bay, but he's style of direction really wouldn't suit this type of movie.

[Shockwave]

McG is a huge fan of the series, he wouldn't have an ending like that, at least I sure hope he wouldn't. Besides, in Bale I trust.

Being a huge fan of the series means nothing. Ive heard that phrase thrown around by so many its not funny.

Uwe Boll is a fan of many of the franchises he gets, it doesnt mean he can make a movie worth shit.

[Moviefan1234]

Being a huge fan of the series means nothing. Ive heard that phrase thrown around by so many its not funny.

Uwe Boll is a fan of many of the franchises he gets, it doesnt mean he can make a movie worth shit.



I think the difference between Boll and McG is that Boll gets a kick out of making really bad movies. He knows they are going to be bad before he even makes them, he's gotten rich from making shitty films and he's well aware of the fact. McG does have some talent behind the name, and he has a great desire to please the fans as well as make a good movie. Let's hope he follows through.

[Preston_79]

I don't think McG has a long enough track record. It's too short for me to hate on him. It wouldn't have mattered who made Charlie's Angels, I probably wouldn't have liked it. And We Are Marshall was a solid picture that shows he has range, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

We're talking Terminator. It's going to be dark, it's going to have Bale, and we get new Terminator models. Hard to fuck that up in my opinion. It can't be worse than the 3rd one and even that one was enjoyable.

The PG-13 rating has be a small bit concerned, but if well crafted I doubt I'll care in the end. The only real graphic violence in the 3rd Terminator was the bitch Terminator punching through the cops back and driving his car.

[APzombie]

I hate it when directors talk exclusively about pleasing fans because more often than not that doesn't mean furthering a story with a new daring chapter, it means rehashing and giving homage to little things in the previous films, like the doctor and the catch-phrases from the previous films in T3. Fuck that. Make a goddamn sequel that you want to see.