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Moviefan1234

07-24-2007, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by Moviefan02000
Please get your asses in gear and start marketing Halloween so you don't have another bomb on your hands. Rob Zombie is doing everything in his power to make awareness for his film high, why the fuck are you doing anything about it?

The rumors on the street are that this film is really bad. Dimension probably has very little to no confidence in the project.

teenkiller

07-24-2007, 11:31 AM

We still have more than a month until it's release. I'm sure we'll be seeing things very soon. Not that I wan't to back up Dimension studios on anything. I just think it's still a bit early. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

RustyRazor

07-24-2007, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
The rumors on the street are that this film is really bad. Dimension probably has very little to no confidence in the project.

Shouldn't have been re-made.
If it flops, MAYBE Hollywood will take note and stop with the remakes already.

I doubt it, but one can hope.

KillaMyers

07-24-2007, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
The rumors on the street are that this film is really bad.

Where did you gather this info from exactly? Because I haven't heard anything really bad about it at all.

In a recent interview Zombie said that Test Screening scores have been very good. None of the reviews that've been posted online were completely negative, infact most are quite positive, with the worst stating the film is just mediocre.

Moviefan1234

07-24-2007, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by KillaMyers
Where did you gather this info from exactly? Because I haven't heard anything really bad about it at all.

In a recent interview Zombie said that Test Screening scores have been very good. None of the reviews that've been posted online were completely negative, infact most are quite positive, with the worst stating the film is just mediocre.

The numerous script reviews that are online as well as the advance screening reviews that I have read. You honestly think Zombie isn't going to say that? Would it be smarter for him to say "it's not nearly as good as I hoped it to be." This one is destined not to be screened for critics before the release I imagine. I don't understand how anyone can be surprised though. HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES and THE DEVIL'S REJECTS were awful films, not to mention the dialogue was cringe inducing.

Moviefan02000

07-24-2007, 02:17 PM

1) The script has been changed a ton since those script reviews.

2) You're talking out of your ass because most test screenings have been good. I've only read one or two negative ones and they were bitching that it wasn't the same as the orignal.

So before you say it's getting awful reviews, you might wanna check that out mate. :)

Moviefan02000

07-24-2007, 02:18 PM

And FYI, The Devil's Rejects was a horror masterpiece. It was absolutely brilliant. It also got quite good reviews for a horror flick. There you go bashing everything that isn't f-ing Pearl Harbor again.

fooknasty

07-24-2007, 02:20 PM

why remake a classic film?? especially with rob zombie at the helm?? this was just a bad idea from the start, and critics are going to rape this movie, that's why we haven't heard anything.

oh, and all the reviews that i have read at latinoreview, aintitcoolnews, etc., say that the movie is below average. when you have mike meyers talking with his mask on, that is horrible.

Moviefan1234

07-24-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by fooknasty
why remake a classic film?? especially with rob zombie at the helm?? this was just a bad idea from the start, and critics are going to rape this movie, that's why we haven't heard anything.

oh, and all the reviews that i have read at latinoreview, aintitcoolnews, etc., say that the movie is below average. when you have mike meyers talking with his mask on, that is horrible.

Thank you. Almost all the reviews I have read are below average to say the least. All the signs are pointing to it not being a good film.

Originally posted by Moviefan02000
1) The script has been changed a ton since those script reviews.

2) You're talking out of your ass because most test screenings have been good. I've only read one or two negative ones and they were bitching that it wasn't the same as the orignal.

1) I've read what seems to be a close version of the shooting script. PM Bourne101, he has a copy on his computer.

2) Most test screenings have not been good, if you would have done your research you would see that.

Originally posted by Moviefan02000
And FYI, The Devil's Rejects was a horror masterpiece. It was absolutely brilliant. It also got quite good reviews for a horror flick. There you go bashing everything that isn't f-ing Pearl Harbor again.

THE DEVIL'S REJECTS is not a 'horror masterpiece' Charlie. As for my taste in film, I have a very wide variety of films that I adore. Look at my DVD library link in my profile for my owned movies, check out my wish list that I am slowly accumulating. Those are all films that I love.

LordSimen

07-24-2007, 04:09 PM

The Devil's Rejects IS a horror masterpiece. I agree threadstarter. DImension really does need to start marketing thus puppy. One trailer isn't gong to cut it.

"No faith in this project?" That's why the test screening scores have been fine, huh? That's why Rob Zombie was told that they have "so much faith in the project it" they gave him more money to fix anything he felt needed to be fixed? Yeah. Bullshit. Dimension has a lot of faith in this project. That's why they chose Zombie to do the project in the first place, he's becoming a modern horror icon.

As for the negative reviews, the most negative review I've read basically said it was mediocre, saying that half the movie was great and the other half not so much. Still doesn't make it an outright bad movie.

As for it the responces that it shouldn't have been remade, I agree. However, if it's going to be remade, I want it to be different. I also want someone like Rob Zombie at the helm, so that he can make not only a different movie, but one that stands well on it's own right. All those who review it and decide to compare it to the original obviously miss the point, and that bugs me the most. It wasn't meant to be a shot for shot remake. Zombie was told by Carpenter to "make it his own." That's why this Michael is different from Carpenter's michael. If the movie is bad, it's because it's a bad movie, not because it's not Carpenter's.

Brando @$$ Fat

07-24-2007, 04:38 PM

I don't really see a potential box-office phenomenon, so an extravagant marketing campaign could be the last thing they need. It's a gamble either way. I won't jump to conclusions about the film because I'm sure it'll be just like the original plotwise, except more fucked up as a whole.

Moviefan02000

07-24-2007, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by LordSimen
The Devil's Rejects IS a horror masterpiece. I agree threadstarter. DImension really does need to start marketing thus puppy. One trailer isn't gong to cut it.

"No faith in this project?" That's why the test screening scores have been fine, huh? That's why Rob Zombie was told that they have "so much faith in the project it" they gave him more money to fix anything he felt needed to be fixed? Yeah. Bullshit. Dimension has a lot of faith in this project. That's why they chose Zombie to do the project in the first place, he's becoming a modern horror icon.

Thank you!! Finally somebody agrees with me! :)

And Colin, if I offended you, I'm really sorry. You know I think you're awesome (and why are you not on AIM anymore?) but this is one of my most anticipated films of the year and it's annoying you won't give it any kind of chance and you're saying it's been getting awful reviews, when it really hasn't. I've been following this project since day one (one of the only films I've ever done that for) and I know everyhting about it, from the way it originally was intended to be, from just about everything that happens in it, to what happened on set, to recent reviews from test screenings.

zombievictim

07-24-2007, 10:41 PM

Yeah I don't really care how much they market this because they won't be getting my money. It looks absolutely horrid. Everything about it. Well I shouldn't say EVERYTHING because it does have Mr. Alex DeLarge himself and Danielle Harris in it. But everything else has been horrid. And I agree with the thread starter about the reviews. Most that I have read have been pretty scathing. The positive ones I've read sound too much like some pre-teen wrote it. They don't sound very professional and seem like they were taken off a blog.

Now I'm not trying to start a huge debate about "You're wrong the test screenings were great" kind of thing. Since obviously you both can't be right and I believe in what my own two eyes tell me.

Le_Big_Mac

07-24-2007, 11:03 PM

Whether or not it's a bad movie or if it's extravagantly marketed, it will in all likeliness do well at the box office. It's a mindless slasher movie (not to demean it or the original) and will draw in thousands of teenagers and young adults with no understanding of film. Some of them might think even this isn't a remake.

teenkiller

07-25-2007, 12:15 AM

I WAS excited for it but the more I hear about it (and it has nothing to do with the reviews themselves) the more on the fence I get. Certain plot details just don't sit right with me. I will still be there opening day though. It's just that Death Sentence is looking like the better choice. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

crodger

07-26-2007, 02:13 AM

Dimension have a history of poorly marketing films. Hell, they didn't even release Equilibrium theatrically outside the US. I think they did it because they had already made a profit on it from DVD sales but I really would have loved to see that fucker on the big screen.

APzombie

07-26-2007, 01:46 PM

The Weinstein's in general have been making alot of executive mistakes since they left Mirmax. Grindhouse was going to be Dimensions saving grace... too bad.

Tagia_Romero

07-26-2007, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by RustyRazor
Shouldn't have been re-made.
If it flops, MAYBE Hollywood will take note and stop with the remakes already.

I doubt it, but one can hope.

Hollywood is like the idiot hamster that keeps on trying to eat the electrified cupcake even after being zapped by it thousands of times before. It almost never learns.

sarah1980

07-26-2007, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Tagia_Romero
Hollywood is like the idiot hamster that keeps on trying to eat the electrified cupcake even after being zapped by it thousands of times before. It almost never learns.

LMAO BEST COMMENT ON THE FOURM PERIOD.....:D

MickeyKnox

07-27-2007, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by APzombie
The Weinstein's in general have been making alot of executive mistakes since they left Mirmax. Grindhouse was going to be Dimensions saving grace... too bad.

Yeah, but pretty much Grindhouse bombing was the Weinsteins fault, they didn't really do all that much marketing for it at all, while you see Tarantino and Rodriguez making the rounds to try and promote their movie, in my opinion Harvey Weinstein is a pompous asshole i'm kind of glad most of his movies are bombing but Grindhouse should've been the exception.

Badbird

07-28-2007, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by crodger
Dimension have a history of poorly marketing films. Hell, they didn't even release Equilibrium theatrically outside the US. I think they did it because they had already made a profit on it from DVD sales but I really would have loved to see that fucker on the big screen.

Hell, they barely released it in the US. It played in a whopping three theaters in Kansas City, which has one of the highest movie theater screen to person ratio in the country. Three screens. And within two weeks it was only on one. I barely got a chance to see it.

Oh, and they released it in December. Without any promotion.

This is what Dimension does.

On another note, Halloween is still a month away. Horror movies are notorious for having poor box office legs, so there's really no point in promoting this now. Two, three weeks out we'll probably get hammered with ads, but by the time the real Halloween rolls around, this movie will be long gone.

fooknasty

07-28-2007, 10:55 PM

What dumbasses decided to release Halloween in August??

Seriously, if they release this movie toward the middle of October it would do 10X better than it will in August. No average movie goer wants to go see a gore fest of a movie toward the end of summer. This is exactly why the Saw franchise has had so much success.

zombievictim

07-29-2007, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by fooknasty
What dumbasses decided to release Halloween in August??

Seriously, if they release this movie toward the middle of October it would do 10X better than it will in August. No average movie goer wants to go see a gore fest of a movie toward the end of summer. This is exactly why the Saw franchise has had so much success.

That's exactly it. They're scared of Saw IV. The franchise consistently pulls in great numbers. Would you put up a horror remake that has been highly criticized since day one against one of the most profitable horror movies ever? I know I sure wouldn't.

teenkiller

07-29-2007, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by zombievictim
That's exactly it. They're scared of Saw IV. The franchise consistently pulls in great numbers. Would you put up a horror remake that has been highly criticized since day one against one of the most profitable horror movies ever? I know I sure wouldn't.

I agree that they sure as shit wouldn't want to compete against Saw 4 but I think there's more to it than that. Curse, H20, and Resurrection were all released during summer as well. What a bunch of motherfucking BULLFUCK! Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

fooknasty

07-29-2007, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by zombievictim
That's exactly it. They're scared of Saw IV. The franchise consistently pulls in great numbers. Would you put up a horror remake that has been highly criticized since day one against one of the most profitable horror movies ever? I know I sure wouldn't.

I would much rather release a remake of Halloween in October then in August, regardless of the competition. It just seems like Dimesnion has completely given up on this movie, and I don't blame them. I have scene no advertisements on TV, and only once during a movie I went and saw. If they did release this movie in October, it would take away considerable amounts of money from Saw, I gurarantee it.

MickeyKnox

07-29-2007, 10:01 PM

Moviefan02000

07-30-2007, 01:13 AM

The new trailer will be released "any day now" according to Zombie. Also, TV spots have been showing up on A&E as well as Spike.

Oh yes, marketing is starting.....:D :D :D

Moviefan02000

07-30-2007, 03:08 AM

The TV spot is on YouTube. It's fantastic..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Q4i8MnJMQ

LordSimen

07-30-2007, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by fooknasty
I would much rather release a remake of Halloween in October then in August, regardless of the competition. It just seems like Dimesnion has completely given up on this movie, and I don't blame them. I have scene no advertisements on TV, and only once during a movie I went and saw. If they did release this movie in October, it would take away considerable amounts of money from Saw, I gurarantee it.

What are you talking about? They havn't given up o this movie. They are actually quite proud and expect great things from this movie. The marketing is just starting now and I think you really jumped the gun on your assumption.

fooknasty

07-30-2007, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by LordSimen
What are you talking about? They havn't given up o this movie. They are actually quite proud and expect great things from this movie. The marketing is just starting now and I think you really jumped the gun on your assumption.

Whether or not you want to admit it, the Weinsteins have screwed the pooch again on another movie, alot like they did with Grindhouse. I remember on these forums hearing many complaints about not having a larger marketing campaign for Grinhouse, and look how bad that flopped. You're right, they may not have "given up" directly with this movie, however they have not shown any confidence in advertising. I have not seen any TV commercials on mainstream TV (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS). I've seen the trailer once on the big screen, and that's it. This movie is going to flop hard becuase of poor marketing, regardless of the fact that it should have never been remade, let alone with someone like Rob Zombie.

Mr.HyDe807

07-31-2007, 03:24 PM

Regardless, im seeing this as a fan of the halloween franchise, and would love to see Meyers on the big screen for the first time. Yeah, i have skepticism, but im gonna roll in cold and see how it is!
:D

travisvornoff

07-31-2007, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Moviefan02000
And FYI, The Devil's Rejects was a horror masterpiece. It was absolutely brilliant. It also got quite good reviews for a horror flick. There you go bashing everything that isn't f-ing Pearl Harbor again.

thank you, though i did hate house of 1000 corpses. im still up in the air on halloween but ill still go see it opening day. and i know in a interview that i read rob zombie said the test screenings are going good, for what thats worth.

MisterTwister

08-01-2007, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Moviefan1234
Thank you. Almost all the reviews I have read are below average to say the least. All the signs are pointing to it not being a good film.

1) I've read what seems to be a close version of the shooting script. PM Bourne101, he has a copy on his computer.

2) Most test screenings have not been good, if you would have done your research you would see that.

THE DEVIL'S REJECTS is not a 'horror masterpiece' Charlie. As for my taste in film, I have a very wide variety of films that I adore. Look at my DVD library link in my profile for my owned movies, check out my wish list that I am slowly accumulating. Those are all films that I love.

If you did the research (which you clearly didn't) you would see most reviews have been good. It seems your the only one seeing these invisible awful reviews.

LordSimen

08-01-2007, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by fooknasty
Whether or not you want to admit it, the Weinsteins have screwed the pooch again on another movie, alot like they did with Grindhouse. I remember on these forums hearing many complaints about not having a larger marketing campaign for Grinhouse, and look how bad that flopped. You're right, they may not have "given up" directly with this movie, however they have not shown any confidence in advertising. I have not seen any TV commercials on mainstream TV (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS). I've seen the trailer once on the big screen, and that's it. This movie is going to flop hard becuase of poor marketing, regardless of the fact that it should have never been remade, let alone with someone like Rob Zombie.

With your first paragraph you made the vital mistake of using the words "whether or not you want to admit it." The truth is, I could easily pull that card on you by stating that "whether or not you want to admit it, Rob Zombie is a master at his craft and is a wonderful film director who created a masterpiece that is The Devil's Rejects." See how ridiculess using that wording is? It makes you come off like a jerk rather than someone with an actual argument.

The new theatrical trailer that has just come into play, along with the new T.V. spots show that the movie is being marketed and will continue to be marketed up untill it's release. No one screwed the pooch on anything yet.

fooknasty

08-02-2007, 12:55 AM

I will let you have your faith in this movie, seeing as the original is your favorite movie, and I didn't mean any insult to you.

I guess we will see how it does being in the same month as the Bourne Ultimatum, Rush Hour 3, Stardust, Invasion, SuperBad, followed a week later by 3:10 To Yuma, Shoot Em Up, etc.

For the majority, many people don't want to see a Halloween remake toward the end of some bigger summer movies that will take away it's money. My argument, was that it is insane to release this movie at this time, as opposed to cashing in on it's popularity in October, when many more teenagers and such would flock into see it. The end of August is when school goes back into session, and many of their targeted audiences will be occupied.

Regardless of whether or not I want a remake of Halloween or feel how horrendous Rob Zombie's movies have been, Dimension and the Weinstein's have screwed the pooch again with some fabulous marketing. :rolleyes:

HHH123007

08-02-2007, 02:13 AM

I haven't gone actively seeking info about the movie or anything, but I haven't heard too many good things about it. The fact that there had to be rewrites and things added after initial test screenings of the flick doesn't help things in my book.

I also happen to think that The Devil's Rejects isn't a masterpiece, so I'm really not the film's target audience.

That's just my opinion.

I think Dimension is mental not to release this in October. It's like when studios release Christmas movies in a month that isn't November or December. They are kind of asking for it.

someguy

08-08-2007, 11:01 PM

I liked House of 1000 Corpses, and I love Devil's Rejects but really ever since reading the script to this I have been turned off by the whole thing. The script is just a big mess, and even though things have been changed around it won't be enough.

Jon Lyrik

08-08-2007, 11:14 PM

Rob Zombie films are definitely "gore masterpieces", but "horror masterpieces"?

zombievictim

08-08-2007, 11:53 PM

Well I finally saw a TV spot. That's ONE so far for me. I haven't seen the trailer in a theater though I've been to about 10 movies in the last month or so. But yeah...one TV spot. That's good enough. I won't get into how awful the tv spot was...oh I guess I got into it. Mine as well finish it. Wow that's bad. I like Zombie but good God! That looks SO stupid. I don't know if it'll be so ridiculous that's its bad. And that bad makes it so good. But all I am right now is worried.

Oh and to whoever said Devil's Rejects is a horror masterpiece...**whimper** I love DR and all but that's about as ridiculous as Jessica Alba getting an Oscar.