How do movies like Epic Movie and Date Movie get made?

[bonoferox]

I steered clear of them for a while, but my magic television that picks up someone else's signal started showing Epic Movie last night. And I was powerless.
Something drew me to it, but I couldn't figure out what it was. I sat there in stunned silence just amazed by how low Hollywood was willing to sink to invest money into a piece of shit like this.
I know we've all had our own rants in the past regarding these kinds of films and I know the simple solution would be to just ignore it or watch something else. But come on!
This is a film where every scene was created by a guy going "remember that part in _____??? Let's do that! Only we'll make a fart or balls joke the macguffin! Or how about incest or a dick joke? People still like that, right? Balls and dicks?"

Or "hey, that guy does a good impression of ______ let's throw him in for a shit and a giggle."

This is the creative talent? There are thousands of independent and brilliant films made every year that get overlooked so that our theaters can get shipped 2-3 prints of movies like this. What the hell?
We'd honestly be better off if the producer came to our house, knocked on our front door, demanded $8.00 and pissed on our foot.

Don't get rid of spoofs completely. There was a time when they had the subtle charm to them in the days of Top Secret and Hot Shots. Bring those back, don't you dare bring another one of these rat bastards into my cinema.

[Lady Stardust]

I say this plain and simple:

People are stupid.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Quite simple: there is no God.

[Le_Big_Mac]

The answer is quite simple. Most people between the age of 12 and 30 have a very poor and immature sense of humor and generally have an IQ of 5. These are basically the only people you see at these movies and these "young, hip dudes" have a lot of free time, due to the fact that they don't need to support a family, to see Aaron Seltzer's dog shit.

[Mr.HyDe807]

I dont have an answer for this. All i know is watching date movie is an undeniable proof on hwo to make a 90 minute movie seem like 3 hours.

[yorrick brown]

because people keep going to watch these kinds of crap.

[JJFlamingo]

90% of the general population are complete morons when it comes to movies and will see anything just because Entertainment Tonight or some other PR outlet tells them to. Witness the recent success of Hairspray making nearly 100 mil...:D

[Derek237]

If every smoker in the world quit, then there would be no demand for cigarettes, and they wouldn't make them anymore, thus significantly cutting down cancer. Same with these terrible movies. They are a cancer on our intelligence, which is kind of worse...I think I'd rather die of cancer than be an idiot. I don't really know where I'm going with this comparison, but the fact is, these movies get made because people go to see them. That's the simple answer. As to why, well, that could take a while.

[jbar1026]

i agree with this rant 100% there is no reason to throw scences form ten movies together with different actors doing fart jokes or the equivalent.

hollywood if you want to make fun of a genre of movies look at hot fuzz and shawn of the dead!! that is how you do it any thing less is garbage. so please stop wasting my time and money going to see shit like scary movie 4.

[LordSimen]

What annoys me the most... Is when a movie is called "Scary Movie" and makes fun of the Matrix, or when a movie is called "Epic" and makes fun of Click or Charlie and the Chocolate factory, or "Date Movie" and making fun of "Lord of the Rings."

That shit annoys me, and even more so since the movies are craptastic already. The least they could do is actually parody the type of movies they're meant ot parody.

[FatSakHead]

durrrrr just cuz day liek stupid art dont mean day st00pid yo evry 1 n titled 2 they opinnins.

[crodger]

The answer to your question lies in the target audience. Let me give you an example. I work at a child care centre and was talking to a boy there who is about 11 years old. He was telling me how I needed to see Epic Movie because it was so funny. I responded with, "I would never watch that tripe." While these movies are rated PG-13 (M in Australia) they are target at children from 10-18 as they think that watching it is 'cool.' What they don't realise, however, is that the movie is shit.

[mutesaint]

They are brutally cheap to make. They never get anyone who demands a big salery, and its not like the scripting is a time consuming product. They are the hollywood equivilant of whizz cheese, only they dont taste good on crackers.

[bigred760]

I never understood the appeal either. You've got great spoofs in Airplane!, Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz and then there's crap like the ones mentioned in the original post. Some people get it, and others don't. Unfortunately, some Hollywood big shots are those that don't.

[jbar1026]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
durrrrr just cuz day liek stupid art dont mean day st00pid yo evry 1 n titled 2 they opinnins.

what???

[NuclearMisfit]

I dont see whats so funny about these movies, they just take a couple of other semi good movies keep the same script from those movies and then they cast people from the d-list in Hollywood claiming these movies are parodies when I say they are more like plagerism.

I was actually at a party at a friends house and we were gonna order a pay per view to watch, the host was very quick into choosing Epic Movie and hit the order button. Everyone at the party screamed at him saying "ARE YOU KIDDING THAT MOVIES CRAP!" "Ill leave this sob" and his response "They are exactly like Scary Movie".

[Brando @$$ Fat]

It's somewhat of a cultural phenomenon. So many people hate these movies, yet they still do fairly well at the box-office. I was stunned to hear that Mind of Mencia was the second highest rated show on Comedy Central, even though everybody hates it because Mencia is an unfunny, redundant, plagarizing hack who has poor delivery and is despised by every other standup comic.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
It's somewhat of a cultural phenomenon. So many people hate these movies, yet they still do fairly well at the box-office. I was stunned to hear that Mind of Mencia was the second highest rated show on Comedy Central, even though everybody hates it because Mencia is an unfunny, redundant, plagarizing hack who has poor delivery and is despised by every other standup comic.

You'd be amazed how many Mencia fans there are out there. Believe it or not, us schmoes make up the vast minority out there. I hang out with a lot of people that love Mencia and think he's a genius. I inform them on how he steals other comedians' material and the only thing they can do is come up with some half-baked excuse that "all comedians do it anyways" to defend them. And they wonder why I no longer hang out with them.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
You'd be amazed how many Mencia fans there are out there. Believe it or not, us schmoes make up the vast minority out there. I hang out with a lot of people that love Mencia and think he's a genius. I inform them on how he steals other comedians' material and the only thing they can do is come up with some half-baked excuse that "all comedians do it anyways" to defend them. And they wonder why I no longer hang out with them.


I wasn't referring to the people here. I know no Mencia fans. I'm not talking about my friends either, I mean all people, even those with exremely bad taste in comedy. Those who would listen to a Bill Hicks joke and at the end just stare blankly because they don't get it and need it explained to them.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
I wasn't referring to the people here. I know no Mencia fans. I'm not talking about my friends either, I mean all people, even those with exremely bad taste in comedy. Those who would listen to a Bill Hicks joke and at the end just stare blankly because they don't get it and need it explained to them.

Wow, where do you live because I need to pack my shit and get the fuck out of North Crackalacki and surround myself with like-minded people. If I saw Mencia in public, I wonder how many punches I could get off him before his body guards rushed in and beat the shit out of me and have me thrown in jail. It'd be worth it. Plus I'd be known as the guy that whooped Mencia's ass.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by NuclearMisfit
I was actually at a party at a friends house and we were gonna order a pay per view to watch, the host was very quick into choosing Epic Movie and hit the order button. Everyone at the party screamed at him saying "ARE YOU KIDDING THAT MOVIES CRAP!" "Ill leave this sob" and his response "They are exactly like Scary Movie".


He's right though. They are like Scary Movie. Scary Movie was shit. So is Date Movie and though I haven't seen it yet, I'm sure Epic Movie is too.


Infact, as bad as Date Movie is, I would rather watch it than the first Scary Movie which was quite close to being unwatchable. Of coarse I'd rather watch neither.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by JJFlamingo
90% of the general population are complete morons when it comes to movies and will see anything just because Entertainment Tonight or some other PR outlet tells them to. Witness the recent success of Hairspray making nearly 100 mil...:D I suppose the rave reviews had nothing to do with it.

But I recently saw "Date Movie" and it might be the worst movie I have ever seen. Ever.

I can't imagine anyone finding this stuff funny.

[smok3h]

Originally posted by Le_Big_Mac
The answer is quite simple. Most people between the age of 12 and 30 have a very poor and immature sense of humor and generally have an IQ of 5. .
.... :rolleyes:

I was in the movie store the other day and I heard probably these 10-12 year old kids walking past Epic Movie saying that it was one of the funniest movies they had seen in a long time. I had to just shake my head in disgust. But yeah, that is your answer, the target audience is young kids. People are saying 12-18... yeah I don't agree with that at all. The target audience is more like 10-16, and that's stretching it a bit. The fact of the matter is these movies are just awful, and people who don't have their own sense of humor get off on this shit still.

[MisterTwister]

I personally despise both films but I don't think it's right that people are being called morons and such cause they liked the film(s). Can't they simply enjoy the films without being put down?

[JJFlamingo]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
I suppose the rave reviews had nothing to do with it.


Reviewers aren't always right, and personally, after the TERRIBLE Hairspray trailer (Travolta In Fat Suit, Fat Women Dancing, Cheesy Songs), I've decided, based on the box office, that I would LOVE to meet any guy who made a POINT of seeing this movie in theatres, just so I can laugh in his fucken face. ET ran stories on this film every day for three straight months prior to its release, and THAT is what brings the mindless cattle to the cinemas. If you pay ET and others to hype your flick enough, you WILL see a profit...:D

[Cronos]

most people are stupid, simple as :p

[bonoferox]

Originally posted by jbar1026


hollywood if you want to make fun of a genre of movies look at hot fuzz and shawn of the dead!! that is how you do it any thing less is garbage.

Exactly

[ilovemovies]

Hot Fuzz is just as bad as Date Movie.


And I agree with MisterTwister.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Hot Fuzz is just as bad as Date Movie.

:eek: :confused: :(

[dreamcurls]

because of the success of Scary Movie

[smok3h]

Originally posted by LordSimen
:eek: :confused: :(
yeah... what the fuck?

[ilovemovies]

I know everyone else loves Hot Fuzz but as far as spoofs goes, I find Hot Fuzz to be just as stupid as Date Movie.

[smok3h]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
I know everyone else loves Hot Fuzz but as far as spoofs goes, I find Hot Fuzz to be just as stupid as Date Movie.
Hmm, humor me for a second. I'm fully aware everyone has different senses of humor and opinions on movies, but did you even see Hot Fuzz, and if you did what didn't you like about it?

[ilovemovies]

First of all, of coarse I've seen the damn movie. I wouldn't call it stupid if I had. Actually, I was looking forward to Hot Fuzz because I actually liked the trailer a lot. That's why the movie was such a massive letdown.

The first half of the movie is only intermittently funny. And then in the second half when the big Wicker Man-esque (sort of in a way) twist is revealed, the movie just more and more stupid.

Yada, yada, yada. The movie is suppose to be a spoof of movies like Bad Boys II and Point Break, and at the end of the movie there is a clever and amusing little moment when the partner copies Keanu Reeves and shoots up in the air. I admit that made me chuckle. But for the most part, I just the movie was plain old not funny and incredibly stupid.

I did like Simon Peg's performance and his partner is also pretty likeable. But they can't save the movie for me. I thought it was junk and just you can't believe I didn't like it, I can't believe everyone loves it. I know there is nothing more subjective than comedy, but I really don't understand why people find this movie to be so funny.

[bonoferox]

I'll respect that opinion and I'll agree that the film really wasn't as funny as the trailers made it out to be. But I didn't go into this movie expecting a spoof at all.
Spoofs border on the line of being ridiculous. Sometimes it works in the sense of Naked Gun, Top Secret, Hot Shots, and even Loaded Weapon 1 in some cases. Other times it doesn't work regardless of how hard they try.
Hot Fuzz was nothing more than a satire mixed with a pretty creepy villainous twist I wasn't expecting, but it just worked for me and seemed to have an original plot to it.

Date Movie just made me embarassed that I was sitting there watching it for the fifteen minutes before I returned it to Blockbuster.

[MisterTwister]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
First of all, of coarse I've seen the damn movie. I wouldn't call it stupid if I had. Actually, I was looking forward to Hot Fuzz because I actually liked the trailer a lot. That's why the movie was such a massive letdown.

The first half of the movie is only intermittently funny. And then in the second half when the big Wicker Man-esque (sort of in a way) twist is revealed, the movie just more and more stupid.

Yada, yada, yada. The movie is suppose to be a spoof of movies like Bad Boys II and Point Break, and at the end of the movie there is a clever and amusing little moment when the partner copies Keanu Reeves and shoots up in the air. I admit that made me chuckle. But for the most part, I just the movie was plain old not funny and incredibly stupid.

I did like Simon Peg's performance and his partner is also pretty likeable. But they can't save the movie for me. I thought it was junk and just you can't believe I didn't like it, I can't believe everyone loves it. I know there is nothing more subjective than comedy, but I really don't understand why people find this movie to be so funny.

I really wanted to love Hot Fuzz but I was also let down. It was funny in spots, the gore was great and I dug the twist but it wasn't as entertaining or funny as I hoped. It's extremely overrated, much like 300 and was one of the year's biggest disappointments for me.

But compared to Date Movie and Epic Movie it's a fucking masterpiece.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
First of all, of coarse I've seen the damn movie. I wouldn't call it stupid if I had. Actually, I was looking forward to Hot Fuzz because I actually liked the trailer a lot. That's why the movie was such a massive letdown.

The first half of the movie is only intermittently funny. And then in the second half when the big Wicker Man-esque (sort of in a way) twist is revealed, the movie just more and more stupid.

Yada, yada, yada. The movie is suppose to be a spoof of movies like Bad Boys II and Point Break, and at the end of the movie there is a clever and amusing little moment when the partner copies Keanu Reeves and shoots up in the air. I admit that made me chuckle. But for the most part, I just the movie was plain old not funny and incredibly stupid.

I did like Simon Peg's performance and his partner is also pretty likeable. But they can't save the movie for me. I thought it was junk and just you can't believe I didn't like it, I can't believe everyone loves it. I know there is nothing more subjective than comedy, but I really don't understand why people find this movie to be so funny.


Yeah, but quit comparing to crap like Date Movie. It's not that bad.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by JJFlamingo
Reviewers aren't always right, and personally, after the TERRIBLE Hairspray trailer (Travolta In Fat Suit, Fat Women Dancing, Cheesy Songs), I've decided, based on the box office, that I would LOVE to meet any guy who made a POINT of seeing this movie in theatres, just so I can laugh in his fucken face. ET ran stories on this film every day for three straight months prior to its release, and THAT is what brings the mindless cattle to the cinemas. If you pay ET and others to hype your flick enough, you WILL see a profit...:D I agree critics aren't always right, but "Hairspray" isn't really the movie to bring in this thread, mainly because there's a huge difference between that and dreck like Date/Epic movie - One got fantastic reviews, the others didn't. It's not a mystery "Hairspray" did well, but. . .

Why the hell would a movie with that bad reviews still make money?

And I agree. I mean, even if you hated "Hot Fuzz", it's flat out wrong to put it in the same league as something as inept as "Date Movie". Subjective or not, one has a more clever sense of humor (even if it's not funny), excellent performances, excellent focus, etc. The others are movies that were just pooped out.

[Frank the Tank]

It's not as bad as someone comparing Knocked Up to Delta Farce without even seeing it.

[a7xfan]

Originally posted by Le_Big_Mac
The answer is quite simple. Most people between the age of 12 and 30 have a very poor and immature sense of humor and generally have an IQ of 5.

i hate these movie ...

but that IS the dumbest statement i have read in a while, im guessing your what...31?...or is it 11?

[cisitu_1_1]

How do movies like Epic Movie and Date Movie get made?

People went to see them. You want to stop this kind of movies from getting made? Do your part, download them, or see them on pirated DVDs.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler


And I agree. I mean, even if you hated "Hot Fuzz", it's flat out wrong to put it in the same league as something as inept as "Date Movie". Subjective or not, one has a more clever sense of humor (even if it's not funny), excellent performances, excellent focus, etc. The others are movies that were just pooped out.


In your opinion. But in MY opinion, Hot Fuzz is every bit dreaful and unfunny as Date Movie. And they are comparable since they are both essentially spoofs.

The one thing I will say is in Hot Fuzz, at least the acting was mostly good. That's something that can't be said for Date Movie.

[Frank the Tank]

One of your big complaints is that the second half is stupid. I think that's the point. It's making fun of really dumb brainless action sequences. That's why I loved the second half cause I kept picking up the references. I do understand your criticisms though. Hot Fuzz isn't as good on second viewing as it is on the first, unlike SOTD which keeps getting better. I think the first half is boring at points, but the second half is so awesome that it makes up for it. Plus, all the random ridiculous gore in the movie is straight from the 80's action films.

Now Shaun Of The Dead is a masterpiece.

My nephew who's 10 even thought Epic and Date movie were lame trash. He did love Scary Movie 3 and 4 though.

[smok3h]

Originally posted by a7xfan
i hate these movie ...

but that IS the dumbest statement i have read in a while, im guessing your what...31?...or is it 11?
Yeah it really as the dumbest thing I have read in a while.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
In your opinion. But in MY opinion, Hot Fuzz is every bit dreaful and unfunny as Date Movie. And they are comparable since they are both essentially spoofs.

The one thing I will say is in Hot Fuzz, at least the acting was mostly good. That's something that can't be said for Date Movie. Not a matter of opinions, I'm not discussing who's right or wrong.

For instance. You can't possibly deny "Hot Fuzz"'s focus. It knew what it was doing and "Date Movie" didn't. One spoofed by homages, references and other things, the other one recreated the same scenes from popular movies but with dumber characters (as in, that's their idea of making fun of something). Whether you agree the first focus is better or not, they are different.

You can't deny Fuzz's pacing as compared to Date's. You just can't. No one could possibly have that distorted a sense of storytelling. I mean, for hell's sake. "Date Movie" couldn't possibly be more incompetent.

Like, I hated "The Village" but I can't compare that to "Date Movie" because one's obviously done right, even if it has flaws, and the other one is just flat-out, fundamentally, inept. "The Village" or "Hot Fuzz" might have flaws, but not on the completely essential level shit like "Date Movie" does. They didn't bother considering pacing, characters, any sense of storytelling at all.

. . . but yeah, I guess it's a matter of opinions in a way. I just can't really imagine someone seeing them to be the same "Only one has better performances", I just can't. Doesn't fit in my little head. One's just a whoooole new tier of ineptitude.

[Backstabba]

Just jumping into the "You can't compare Hot Fuzz to Date Movie" thing here.

I know you might think I'm biased since Hot Fuzz is my 2nd favorite movie of the year, but compare the jokes and tell me if you REALLY think Hot Fuzz is compareable to Date Movie.

You may think Hot Fuzz was unfunny, but it made CLEVER, and sometimes even SUBTLE jokes (which I did find hilarious.)

Date Movie = Ball jokes! Sex jokes! Kill Bill jokes! (I mean Hot Fuzz didn't make fun of Fried Green Tomatoes now did it?). Pimpil jokes, fat girl dancing jokes, Michael Jackson jokes.

....Hopefully I added something instead of taking up space.

[bonoferox]

Originally posted by Backstabba
Just jumping into the "You can't compare Hot Fuzz to Date Movie" thing here.

I know you might think I'm biased since Hot Fuzz is my 2nd favorite movie of the year, but compare the jokes and tell me if you REALLY think Hot Fuzz is compareable to Date Movie.

You may think Hot Fuzz was unfunny, but it made CLEVER, and sometimes even SUBTLE jokes (which I did find hilarious.)

Date Movie = Ball jokes! Sex jokes! Kill Bill jokes! (I mean Hot Fuzz didn't make fun of Fried Green Tomatoes now did it?). Pimpil jokes, fat girl dancing jokes, Michael Jackson jokes.

....Hopefully I added something instead of taking up space.

I agree with you. The subtle jokes in Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz were what made them so watchable for me.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
In your opinion. But in MY opinion, Hot Fuzz is every bit dreaful and unfunny as Date Movie. And they are comparable since they are both essentially spoofs.

The one thing I will say is in Hot Fuzz, at least the acting was mostly good. That's something that can't be said for Date Movie.


Yeah, Hot Fuzz isn't a full out spoof like Date Movie is. It is more subtle spoofs here and there in the movie rather than just "OMG HE SAID PENIS, HE'S MICHAEL JACKSON!" kind of yelling and doing over and over joke like the Kill Bill joke in Date Movie, actually it was more of a annoyance than a joke, but anyway.

[KiKrusher99]

Yeah it never really felt like Hot Fuzz was a full out spoof, it merely took the genre and made it it's own... with subtle references here and there.

Another advantage Hot Fuzz has over the deplorable Epic Movie is that it is actually a well made film; in terms of techniques, aesthetics etc. The editing, cinematography, direction is absolutely suberp and assists in what Hot Fuzz was going for. It didn't need to rely on mock set pieces and costumes.

[smok3h]

Yeah, what everyone else says. I just don't see how it's possible to compare Epic/Date movie with Hot Fuzz.