300 licked salty armadillo balls

[FatSakHead]

Talk about an overhyped overrated piece of exercise in tedium. I've even heard football players claim it "DUDE '300' IS LIKE TOTALLY THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME BRO".

300 could be summed up as two hours of half-naked dudes swinging swords around in slow motion. Or, it could be summed up as this: take the worst shots from the battle scenes in Spartacus, add in slow motion, a dab of bad acting, sprinkle in some CGI backgrounds, shake well, and you will have what is called the "300".

I would rather tit-fuck an octopus than watch this piece of shit again.

[KiKrusher99]

While I agree the movie sucked... one sexual remark pertaining to animals is enough.

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by FatSakHead


300 could be summed up as two hours of half-naked dudes swinging swords around in slow motion.

Speaking from a female perspective that is mostly disregarded in terms of cinematic manudity, I have no argument with that. :D

[RavenInk]

300 may not be a universally accepted masterpiece- nor is it a universally panned and hated film. It is however, a popcorn film that is rightfully liked by a few key demographics, as well as rightfully disliked by others.

Personally, i loved it. I enjoy Frank Miller's work, and every so often i like watching a cheesy film with unique visuals and a lot of gore. That does not make me a dumb person, it is just an aspect of my tastes in film. The football players who you claim think it is the "best movie ever" are likely drawn to the testosterone machines that are the spartan army because they want to be like them. Just as the female audience is likely intrigued by the prospect of seeing 300 men battling in peak physical condition, while wearing very little clothing.

My point is, Zack Snyder did a great job of making it a film that clearly plays to a certain demographic, but with enough face-value enjoyment for people outside of said demographic to be entertained as well.

Further more, in defense of the slow motion- it is based on a comic book, and the hyper-slow hyper-fast transition, did a great job of personifying comic book art. Each frame is emphasized, but instead of harsh transitions between frames, we get a super-fast glimpse at what happened between frames.

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by RavenInk

My point is, Zack Snyder did a great job of making it a film that clearly plays to a certain demographic, but with enough face-value enjoyment for people outside of said demographic to be entertained as well.

Further more, in defense of the slow motion- it is based on a comic book, and the hyper-slow hyper-fast transition, did a great job of personifying comic book art. Each frame is emphasized, but instead of harsh transitions between frames, we get a super-fast glimpse at what happened between frames.

Which means there is little of those annoying jump cuts that so many films use in sequences such as those. You see every moment of that carnage rather than think "Wha? What just happened? Slow down!"

[Badbird]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
Talk about an overhyped overrated piece of exercise in tedium. I've even heard football players claim it "DUDE '300' IS LIKE TOTALLY THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME BRO".

No, no, no. They wouldn't say "bro." It's more like "Brah."

300's biggest crime was that it was so fucking boring .

[miguel_montes]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I would rather tit-fuck an octopus than watch this piece of shit again.

I feel for the octopus.

When's the wedding, by the way?

[LordSimen]

I disagree. What 300 set out to do was make a faithful adaptation to a comic book as well as make one of the most testosterone driven films in the history of cinema, and in both aspects it succeeded in it's goals. I also enjoyed the film from start to finish, and saw no "bad acting" nor any "bad shots." I find the film to be a perfect summer action movie filled with both heart, character and fun.

[Le_Big_Mac]

It was decent. I was never highly bothered by the slow motion, although it isn't exactly the greatest, or most original, way to present an epic battle. There wasn't much acting to speak of in the movie, as it was mostly men in their underwear yelling louder and more often than Jonah Hill in Superbad. It's still definitely overrated.

[Backstabba]

Ok, so you didn't like 300.
Great.
Move on.

It's a faithful adaptation of a much-loved comic book. It never tried to be a masterpiece, it never tried to be a critical darling, it was made for fun and for over-the-top action.

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions but don't try to shove them down our throats.

(Also, why the cheap shot to football players? I play football and to be honest, the team is full of hard working, smart guys. Stop believing the ones you see on TV. Come on now.)

[Cronos]

Originally posted by Tagia_Romero
Which means there is little of those annoying jump cuts that so many films use in sequences such as those. You see every moment of that carnage rather than think "Wha? What just happened? Slow down!"
That's part of what i loved about the film, no quick editing or camera movements, you can actually tell what's going on in the action scenes. It's a visual feast which had me hooked from the start, awesome cinematography and while there was some bad CG it gave it more of a comic book feel for me.

[ilovemovies]

300 only has two things going for it.

1) It's undeniably a great looking film. The overall art direction and set designs are beautifully rendered, although Sin City had a better look.

and

2) A strong, charismatic and compelling central performance from Gerard Butler. He's quite good in the movie. Actually Lena Headly is pretty good too. So I guess that's technically three.


But the movie's pace is uneven, some of the action was okay but yeah, way too much slow motion. And other than Butler and Headly, the acting sucked.


Bottom line, I thought the movie was completely, utterly mediocre.

And the movie makes one big mistake at the end. It uses the same music that is in Gladiator. I think that is a mistake because you don't recall a movie that is 1000000000000x better. 300 isn't even close to being half the movie Gladiator is.

[vesaker]

I greatly enjoyed this movie and i still don't understand why ppl call it slo mo when it s ont traditional slow mo. The action was slowed down then sped up at different times to help emphisise the action and i think it did a great job of it. I love parts in movies where someone gets hit real hard that you almost feel it, well in the first fight when Leonidas just stands and smokes that one Persian with his sheild i felt that, great stuff. Oh and i loved the score for this movie too.

[chilli pepper]

Personally, while I dont think 300 licks salty armadillo balls or anything like that, I do think its a movie I like less the more I think about it, I didnt run out to buy it on DVD when it was released and I dont have plans to any time real soon. But, devil's advocate, I do think visually the movie is great, but in the same breath you could watch 300 on mute and not be hindered by the lack of sound. So, what i'm saying in my rambling ass was is 300 is STYLE, not SUBSTANCE. But, licking armadillo balls is a lil much.

[Scorpio24]

300>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FatSakHead

[MisterTwister]

300 looked great, Snyder's directing was excellent, Butler was great and some of action was pretty cool but I couldn't help but be disappointed with it. The slow motion got very annoying, the CGI gore was embarrassing and the end battle was so anti-climatic it wasn't funny. Overrated for me.

[jbar1026]

i thought the movie was decent enough! not the greatest but still worth watching. and i did not really notice any bad acting maybe you should give an example. the slow mo to speed up was a cool effect and didnt bother me at all

[vesaker]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
300>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FatSakHead
LOL

[FatSakHead]

Kevin Federline >>>>>>>>>>> Scorpio24

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
Kevin Federline >>>>>>>>>>> Scorpio24

Let's not kick the balls out of it.

[Badbird]

So it was a faithful adaptation. So what? So was Phantom of the Opera.

I'd say in both cases the source material was tragically flawed.

Frank Miller = not the best writer.

[miguel_montes]

Originally posted by Badbird
So it was a faithful adaptation. So what? So was Phantom of the Opera.

I'd say in both cases the source material was tragically flawed.

Frank Miller = not the best writer.

Agreed. But since it's a comic book, you can't expect an oscar winning script.

Altough I like how the story was told, and the characters. Some of the "sarcastic punch-lines" Leonidas said were awesome:
- "You see, old friend? I brought more soldiers than you did."
- "Perhaps you haven't noticed, but we've been sharing our culture with you all morning."
- "That is quite an offer. Only a mad man would refuse it. But this kneeling business... I'm afraid killing all those slaves of yours has left me with a nasty cramp in my leg."
- "Clearly you don't know our women! I might as well have marched them up here judging by what I've seen."

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by Badbird
So it was a faithful adaptation. So what? So was Phantom of the Opera.

I'd say in both cases the source material was tragically flawed.

Frank Miller = not the best writer.

Completely and utterly disagreeed.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by miguel_montes
Agreed. But since it's a comic book, you can't expect an oscar winning script.



That is so not true.

V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, The X-Men (except for perhaps the third one), Sin City, Road to Perdition are just a few examples of comic book/graphic novel movies that are terrificially written.

[someguy]

They should have included the fact that Spartans were bisexual and had sex with each other. Now THAT would have made the audience reaction much more interesting.

[bigred760]

300
Cost $65 million
Box office: $210,614,939
Int'l B.O.: $245,453,242
Grand total: $456,068,181

$456,068,181 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $65 million

I don't even know if that includes DVD sales. :D

So somebody liked it.

Me . . . it's my favorite movie this year so far.

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by someguy
They should have included the fact that Spartans were bisexual and had sex with each other. Now THAT would have made the audience reaction much more interesting.

Bring it on. Down with the double-standards. :D

As for Miller being a poor story-teller, that is arguable, but what I love about him are his ideas. He does his work, as he has said many times in the past, for HIMSELF, not for anybody else. If others like it, that's a bonus, but in the first place, he's not writing or drawing these stories for anybody else's approval but his own.

[miguel_montes]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
That is so not true.

V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, The X-Men (except for perhaps the third one), Sin City, Road to Perdition are just a few examples of comic book/graphic novel movies that are terrificially written.

Hold on, calm down. I like Frank Miller and his work. I loved 300 (my favorite movie of the year so far). But I gotta agree with Badbird, he is not the best writer. He won't win an oscar for his screenplay (adapted or not).

Why? Because it's off a comic book. Do you really think the Academy will nominate something like that? Let's be realistic here: not a chance.

His comic book / graphic novel work is exceptional and I agree with you, of course, but it's not something oscar-worthy. That is what I'm trying to say here.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by miguel_montes
Hold on, calm down. I like Frank Miller and his work. I loved 300 (my favorite movie of the year so far). But I gotta agree with Badbird, he is not the best writer. He won't win an oscar for his screenplay (adapted or not).

Why? Because it's off a comic book. Do you really think the Academy will nominate something like that? Let's be realistic here: not a chance.

His comic book / graphic novel work is exceptional and I agree with you, of course, but it's not something oscar-worthy. That is what I'm trying to say here.


Um, I wasn't trying to say Frank Miller wrote any of those.

You made it sound like that because a movie is based on a comic book, it can't have a great, oscar winning script. Which is not true.

Now Batman Begins and V for Vendetta ect., may not have been nominated for an oscar but considering all the blunders the oscars have done in the past, that don't mean anything. I can think of a bunch of comic book adaptations that have great writing.

[vesaker]

Originally posted by Badbird
So it was a faithful adaptation. So what? So was Phantom of the Opera.

I'd say in both cases the source material was tragically flawed.

Frank Miller = not the best writer.

not he best but still a good one wiht my personal fav still being Give Me Liberty and i swear to god if he puts out another adatpion of his work aside from Sin City 2 and The Spirtit that isn't GML i'm gonna shoot someone.

But yeah 300 isn't going t going to win an oscar or anything except possibly visuals and thats if its even nominated. But you can't expect comic book films to win at the academy cause most comics aren't the sort of story that would deserve that kind of reconition. If there were ever a comic movie to win a serious oscar it will be Watchmen if done right, which is hte greatest comic ever written imo.

[someguy]

Originally posted by bigred760
300
Cost $65 million
Box office: $210,614,939
Int'l B.O.: $245,453,242
Grand total: $456,068,181

$456,068,181 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $65 million

I don't even know if that includes DVD sales. :D

So somebody liked it.

Me . . . it's my favorite movie this year so far.

Haha, are you using Worthington's Law?

[miguel_montes]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Um, I wasn't trying to say Frank Miller wrote any of those.

You made it sound like that because a movie is based on a comic book, it can't have a great, oscar winning script. Which is not true.

Now Batman Begins and V for Vendetta ect., may not have been nominated for an oscar but considering all the blunders the oscars have done in the past, that don't mean anything. I can think of a bunch of comic book adaptations that have great writing.

Yeah, I know Miller didn't write those scripts. Although I had doubts concerning Road To Perdition, because I didn't even know it was based on a graphic novel.

I tried to say that the Academy won't recognize any good comic book screenplays because of its origin. No matter how good they are. And I wholeheartedly agree with you, some comic book movies have superb screenplays. And some could even deserve to be nominated. But, realistically speaking, they won't be. Which is bad and a real shame.

[Preston_79]

My roomate just got the graphic novel 300 and I gave it a look. Seemed like the movie followed the scenes and dialogue from the comic very accurately. Maybe not though because I didn't read the entire thing, but what I did see was pretty spot on.

I thought 300 was good myself. The Spartans looked like bad asses, the bad guys looked like bad asses. The fight scenes weren't terribly impressive, (slow motion yawn) but they entertained me. It did show us some nice tits as well and guys gotta appreciate that. It was cheesy some of the time, but perhaps that comes from the novel dialogue.

8.0/10

[Badbird]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
That is so not true.

V for Vendetta, Batman Begins, The X-Men (except for perhaps the third one), Sin City, Road to Perdition are just a few examples of comic book/graphic novel movies that are terrificially written.

Don't forget, History of Violence was a graphic novel. Did it get any noms besides acting? I don't remember. American Splendor was also, kinda, sorta a comic book movie.

Haven't seen Road to Perdition, but of those you mentioned only V for Vendetta and X2 had what I would call very strong screenplays.

Go back and look at Batman Begins objectively... it really is a pretty stupid story. Poisoning the water supply? Ninjas wanting to destroy Gotham? Whatever. And Sin City had about as much depth as 300. Which is to say none at all.

[Z_oasis]

i know its TOO early to tell..BBUUUTTTT... i nominate 300 most over-hyped movie in the next golden schmoes!

[APzombie]

Originally posted by Z_oasis
i know its TOO early to tell..BBUUUTTTT... i nominate 300 most over-hyped movie in the next golden schmoes!

I concur sir. I really didn't care for it, but I can at least understand its appeal.

[LordSimen]

And I vote 300 as the most Underrated movie on the board. :(

[ilovemovies]

Underrated? Are you kidding me? Too many people love it. I think it's a prime candidate, for me atleast, for most overrated. That and Hot Fuzz and Transformers are the three major candidates for that category for this year so far.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Underrated? Are you kidding me? Too many people love it. I think it's a prime candidate, for me atleast, for most overrated. That and Hot Fuzz and Transformers are the three major candidates for that category for this year so far.

The fact that this thread exists and so many people agree with it kind of stops it from being the most overrated. XD

[ilovemovies]

Well, when it first came out everyone was creaming over it.

But maybe this means people are actually starting to come to their senses regarding this movie. ;)

[EvilHenchman]

Originally posted by Badbird
Frank Miller = not the best writer.

If Robocop 2 were the only evidence of his talents, then I'd agree.

[psycheoutsteve]

Why is anybody trying to take away from the success 300 had? It was a simple film with a good story, impressive visuals, and ample action scenes. This film didn't seek to be an oscar winner nor did it attempt to compare with Gladiator, (I don't understand why people are comparing the 2 films). Every so often amongst the sea of intellectual and artsy masterpieces comes a film that delivers a primal roller coaster ride. 300 is that film, a fun ride and nothing more.

I honestly don't know what people dislike more, the fact that they thought 300 was a terrible film, or that 300 was successful using very simple concepts.

[someguy]

Originally posted by LordSimen
The fact that this thread exists and so many people agree with it kind of stops it from being the most overrated. XD

Haha, I'd say that more than several pages of 7 to 10/10s for the movie in the current forum beats out this one page thread :)

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by someguy
Haha, I'd say that more than several pages of 7 to 10/10s for the movie in the current forum beats out this one page thread :)

True, but the minority a little too vocal to be ignored, which is usually a sign of something that's overrated. =P

[FatSakHead]

I exaggerated a bit when I said this movie was horrible but c'mon people. 9/10, 10/10's? Think hard, does this movie really warrant a 10/10? It's a decent time-waster and a rental at best, and I'd give it no more than a 6/10. Not the "OMG BEST MOVEE I EVER SEEN I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT IM GONNA CUM!! 10/10"

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I exaggerated a bit when I said this movie was horrible but c'mon people. 9/10, 10/10's? Think hard, does this movie really warrant a 10/10? It's a decent time-waster and a rental at best, and I'd give it no more than a 6/10. Not the "OMG BEST MOVEE I EVER SEEN I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT IM GONNA CUM!! 10/10"

Yes. It does warrant a 10/10. For these reasons: One, I find no flaws in the film. People said it was overlong and boring, yet I loved every minute of the film. Two, the filmmakers accomplished exactly what they set out to do, and that was make an incredibly awesome action epic that was not only a faithful adaptation of an excellent Frank Miller graphic novel but was also an ode to the 80's style action hero. In these aspects, the movie succeeded with flying colors. Three, the movie fulfilled every expectation I had before going in and more, which is rare these days.

I rank movies based on how well I enjoyed them and whether or not the movie accomplished what it set out to do. Both of these scored a 10/10 for me, and thus the movie gets a 10/10 from me. Perfect epic action movie.

[ilovemovies]

How on earth was the movie an ode to 80's style action hero?

Gerard Butler was cool and as I said, the best thing about the movie. Infact, pretty much the only good thing about it other Lena Headly and some pretty cool visuals. But still, he or the movie don't compare to some of the awesome action movies of the 80's. That's for sure.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
How on earth was the movie an ode to 80's style action hero?

Gerard Butler was cool and as I said, the best thing about the movie. Infact, pretty much the only good thing about it other Lena Headly and some pretty cool visuals. But still, he or the movie don't compare to some of the awesome action movies of the 80's. That's for sure.

How on earth wasn't it? Big buff action heroes sprewing awesome one-liners left and right. To me, it's just as good as the awesome action movies of the 80's, it's just this movie was one of those movies on top of an epic fantasy movie.

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I exaggerated a bit when I said this movie was horrible but c'mon people. 9/10, 10/10's? Think hard, does this movie really warrant a 10/10? It's a decent time-waster and a rental at best, and I'd give it no more than a 6/10. Not the "OMG BEST MOVEE I EVER SEEN I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT IM GONNA CUM!! 10/10"

Doesn't every successful movie have a group of inept people who praise it with lines like, "OMG BEST MOVIE EVER!!!?" Then there are those people who like the movie and can give legitimate reasons for liking it. I'd just ignore the shallow praise for the film like I would any other and respect the opinions of those who think the film is truly worthy of a 10/10.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by psycheoutsteve
Doesn't every successful movie have a group of inept people who praise it with lines like, "OMG BEST MOVIE EVER!!!?" Then there are those people who like the movie and can give legitimate reasons for liking it. I'd just ignore the shallow praise for the film like I would any other and respect the opinions of those who think the film is truly worthy of a 10/10.

Umm, yes, and 300 is no different than those successful movies that don't warrant 10/10's. So...I'm not sure I'm following you here.

I mean, it's easy for a movie to please me, I'm a pretty leniant critic. But even I don't pass 10/10's that much. A movie has to pretty much change my life for me to give it a 10/10. A movie so good I can't sleep the night I saw it because I keep thinking about it. The best two movies I saw this year Grindhouse and Zodiac received 8/10's from me.

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
Umm, yes, and 300 is no different than those successful movies that don't warrant 10/10's. So...I'm not sure I'm following you here.

I mean, it's easy for a movie to please me, I'm a pretty leniant critic. But even I don't pass 10/10's that much. A movie has to pretty much change my life for me to give it a 10/10. A movie so good I can't sleep the night I saw it because I keep thinking about it. The best two movies I saw this year Grindhouse and Zodiac received 8/10's from me.

What I'm trying to say is that there are intelligent people out there who love this movie and believe it to be worthy of a 10/10. Why must anyone change their opinion or question the validity of their reviews simply because you don't believe the movie to worth a 10/10? AREN'T WE ENTITLED TO DIFFERENT OPINIONS? Look, I'm not following you because you sit there and complain about people raving over this film and you can't accept the fact that they enjoyed it that much. So you didn't like 300, that's fine, just don't expect everyone out there to be on the same level as you.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by psycheoutsteve
What I'm trying to say is that there are intelligent people out there who love this movie and believe it to be worthy of a 10/10. Why must anyone change their opinion or question the validity of their reviews simply because you don't believe the movie to worth a 10/10? AREN'T WE ENTITLED TO DIFFERENT OPINIONS? Look, I'm not following you because you sit there and complain about people raving over this film and you can't accept the fact that they enjoyed it that much. So you didn't like 300, that's fine, just don't expect everyone out there to be on the same level as you.

I can complain about anything I damn well please, it's the rant forum. And maybe it's just YOUR opinion that's it not right to blast people for their opinions. The fact that there are intelligent people that give 10/10's to 300 isn't the point. The point is, I don't think the damn movie is worth the praise it got. So I ranted. If you can't accept that, then maybe YOU need to learn to accept other's opinions.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Well, when it first came out everyone was creaming over it.

But maybe this means people are actually starting to come to their senses regarding this movie. ;) Kinda like "Star Wars III".

"Oh right, yeah, it's . . . kinda lame."

Anyway, about "300", I think it's a really fun movie when it wants to be fun. The whole overly dramatic, uber-macho atmosphere is absolutely hilarious (in a good way, it was obviously intentional), but it does really get boring from time to time and it takes toooo fucking long for the fights to begin.

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I can complain about anything I damn well please, it's the rant forum. And maybe it's just YOUR opinion that's it not right to blast people for their opinions. The fact that there are intelligent people that give 10/10's to 300 isn't the point. The point is, I don't think the damn movie is worth the praise it got. So I ranted. If you can't accept that, then maybe YOU need to learn to accept other's opinions.

Haha, I don't have a problem with rants on over praised films. So I responded to your rant thread, so what? You can dish out rants, but you can't handle criticism from them? Sorry, but I don't think it's me who's being narrow-minded this time...

[Frank the Tank]

300 was a cheesy action classic with some thrilling battle scenes and some unintentional comedy. It entertained me for it's running time and that's all I ask for. I read some reviews were people were breaking it down for it's historical inaacuricies, and that's a joke in itself.

Now, Grindhouse is something that's getting overpraised. It was a fun time and I enjoyed Planet Terror and the trailers, but fuck it still bugs me that it's on the IMDB top 200 (How can it be if it includes that pretentious piece of QT shit, Death Proof) and way better and more fun horror films from the 80's are absent.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I can complain about anything I damn well please, it's the rant forum. And maybe it's just YOUR opinion that's it not right to blast people for their opinions. The fact that there are intelligent people that give 10/10's to 300 isn't the point. The point is, I don't think the damn movie is worth the praise it got. So I ranted. If you can't accept that, then maybe YOU need to learn to accept other's opinions.

I always find it funny when people complain about people liking a movie; even loving a movie. They're in the minority and they complain about it.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank

Now, Grindhouse is something that's getting overpraised. It was a fun time and I enjoyed Planet Terror and the trailers, but fuck it still bugs me that it's on the IMDB top 200 (How can it be if it includes that pretentious piece of QT shit, Death Proof) and way better and more fun horror films from the 80's are absent. My favorite part of "Grindhouse" is that it cost around 60 million clams.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
My favorite part of "Grindhouse" is that it cost around 60 million clams.

Yeah, that totally goes against the supposed low budget mentality of grindhouse films. I guess they spent most of it on advertising.

[Bulldog07]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I would rather tit-fuck an octopus than watch this piece of shit again.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I just liked the way this movie LOOKED. Everything else about it blew pink donkey dick, sticking with animal sex as analogy. The acting sucked, the story was boring and wastefully grandiose. The TRUE story of the three hundred is great, but the movie just made it look stupid.

The action was xerox-copied from Gladiator and every other sword fighting/hand-to-hand combat movie. I could've listened to the movie on mute cause the dialog was all just, "Alright men, we fight to the death," and "Roar! Death is honor!" Blah, blah, blah...

I'm with you. 300 wasn't really that good. At all.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by bigred760
I always find it funny when people complain about people liking a movie; even loving a movie. They're in the minority and they complain about it.

Yes yes, and your point?

[someguy]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank
Yeah, that totally goes against the supposed low budget mentality of grindhouse films. I guess they spent most of it on advertising.

I'd say that the majority of that budget (or close to it) was spent on Planet Terror though.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Frank the Tank
Yeah, that totally goes against the supposed low budget mentality of grindhouse films. I guess they spent most of it on advertising. Wait, I missed something.

My favorite part was that it only made like 20 mill. NYAHAHA!

[Jim H]

While I enjoyed 300, I think the speech's about freedom from SPARTANS is fucking nutty.

[I Am Legend]

Agreed. Why the hell would Spartans speak of maintaining their freedom when they are already subservient to a king? Doesn’t really make sense and sounded like it was ripped off directly from Braveheart.

That said, I thought 300 was enjoyable nonetheless. I expected it to be much better than it was, but it still entertained me, mostly for its beautiful visuals. The fight scenes were pretty crappy though, featuring nothing the slight bit original.

[Mr.HyDe807]

300 was pretty good (8/10), not the greatest though. Anyways, alot of people like it, you thought it sucked.

And the world keeps tunring.......

I dotn understnad why people rag on other people who give movies 10/10. They really liked the movie, they have an opinion and different taste than you. You dont think the movie is worthy as being "perfect", they do. So lets just all calm down and have a soda and watch a movie we all like :D

[Jim H]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
Agreed. Why the hell would Spartans speak of maintaining their freedom when they are already subservient to a king? Doesn’t really make sense and sounded like it was ripped off directly from Braveheart.

That said, I thought 300 was enjoyable nonetheless. I expected it to be much better than it was, but it still entertained me, mostly for its beautiful visuals. The fight scenes were pretty crappy though, featuring nothing the slight bit original.

Not just having a king, they also had what were essentially slaves. Slaves that, as a rite of manhood, they MURDERED.

[I Am Legend]

Didn't think of that.

Good point. lol

[X-Nightcrawler]

I Am Legend, your avatar made me laugh for like a minute straight, you get teh trophy.

[I Am Legend]

Fuck the trophy.

I want money. :D

[vesaker]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
Fuck the trophy.

I want money. :D

you wouldn't get a trophy anyways, you know that all contests in the Canada region exclude Quebec ;):p lol

[I Am Legend]

lollll

And with just cause. ;)

[Badbird]

Originally posted by EvilHenchman
If Robocop 2 were the only evidence of his talents, then I'd agree.

HA!

Robocop 2 is the only decent movie he's been involved with so far in my opinion.

And the notion that this movie is somehow underrated because a dozen or so of us don't like it is flat out preposterous. There are two or three movies a year that get near universal praise and piles of 10/10 ratings. King Kong was one of them, 300 is another.

I think for a movie to be truly underrated, it has to be something that isn't on anyone's radar anymore, if ever. Like Shooter, or The Lookout. Movies that barely made a blip, you know. Super huge movies, either loved (300) or hated (Fantastic Four 2) shouldn't really qualify.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Jim H
Not just having a king, they also had what were essentially slaves. Slaves that, as a rite of manhood, they MURDERED.

And you saw this WHERE in the movie?

Originally posted by I Am Legend
Why the hell would Spartans speak of maintaining their freedom when they are already subservient to a king? Doesn’t really make sense and sounded like it was ripped off directly from Braveheart.


So only in a democracy can people be free? People in England don't seem to mind.

And I don't quite get what's being ripped off from Braveheart?

[Spidey]

For me 300 was the best movie I've seen this year. 10/10
I've seen it 4 times now and I still enjoy every minute of it.

[Jim H]

Originally posted by bigred760
And you saw this WHERE in the movie?



So only in a democracy can people be free? People in England don't seem to mind.



It wasn't in the movie. But the characters are still Spartans. And the Spartans had slaves who they murdered. At least, that's the consensus by most historians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoge

They talk about an "age of freedom". It just comes across as ludicrous to me.

Also, I'm not sure what you're getting at with England. They're not that much less democratic than the USA. Hell, we had to have an amendment to have direct election of senators.

We're both Republics, in any case, regardless of what we call ourselves.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Jim H
It wasn't in the movie. But the characters are still Spartans. And the Spartans had slaves who they murdered. At least, that's the consensus by most historians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoge

The movie's not based on history. It's based on Frank Miller's graphic novel which is loosely based on history.

The novel and movie weren't trying to depict ancient history. Yes, there really were Spartans vs. Persians and a Battle of Thermap-a-whatever, but the point of the movie was not a character study. I doubt Leonidas' quote about "age of freedom" was actually said by the real king.

If that's all you based your opinion on, I can see why you didn't like the movie.

[I Am Legend]

Originally posted by bigred760
The movie's not based on history. It's based on Frank Miller's graphic novel which is loosely based on history.

The novel and movie weren't trying to depict ancient history. Yes, there really were Spartans vs. Persians and a Battle of Thermap-a-whatever, but the point of the movie was not a character study. I doubt Leonidas' quote about "age of freedom" was actually said by the real king.

If that's all you based your opinion on, I can see why you didn't like the movie.

I understand that the film is not an exact reenactment of the historic battle, but the whole “freedom” spin on it was laughable at besy. As much as the filmmakers wanted the Spartans to appear as David versus Goliath, it was more a case of one tyrant trying to enslave another tyrant.

I enjoyed the movie nonetheless but I was waiting for Leonidas to scream out "FREEEEEDOM"!

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
I understand that the film is not an exact reenactment of the historic battle, but the whole “freedom” spin on it was laughable at besy. As much as the filmmakers wanted the Spartans to appear as David versus Goliath, it was more a case of one tyrant trying to enslave another tyrant.

I enjoyed the movie nonetheless but I was waiting for Leonidas to scream out "FREEEEEDOM"!

Maybe the spartans were a bit hypocritical to say that in the film, but honestly it didn't seem that ridiculous to me. Every powerful society believes that they are right/have their own ideas of freedom. What the Spartans were talking about was the freedom for not only themselves, but for all of Greece from a single dominating empire. In the grand scheme of things what the Persians would've done to Greece would've been a lot worse than what the Spartans did to their slaves or neighboring villagers. (not that this excuses the violent behavior the spartans had toward slaves, I was just trying to make a point)

There was some justice in history afterall though wasn't there? I mean, shortly after the battle at Plataya(sp?) The Spartans and Athenians fought each other until they weakened and the Macedonians crushed them both...

I don't support all of the Spartan's views on society, just that I admired their courage in battle and their defiance towards the largest army ever assembled at the time. That battle is the model for all courageous and triumphant battles. Never has there ever been a story comparable about victory in the face of impossible odds...

[Jim H]

Originally posted by bigred760
The movie's not based on history. It's based on Frank Miller's graphic novel which is loosely based on history.

The novel and movie weren't trying to depict ancient history. Yes, there really were Spartans vs. Persians and a Battle of Thermap-a-whatever, but the point of the movie was not a character study. I doubt Leonidas' quote about "age of freedom" was actually said by the real king.

If that's all you based your opinion on, I can see why you didn't like the movie.

I just thought that one scene came across as ridiculous and worthy of eye rolling. I said earlier I quite enjoyed the movie.

[RavenInk]

Originally posted by psycheoutsteve
That battle is the model for all courageous and triumphant battles. Never has there ever been a story comparable about victory in the face of impossible odds...

wasn't really a victory- an outstanding display of endurance, and testament to the brilliance of the Spartan's phallanx stratergy, but at the end of the day, they all died. If that was a victory for the Spartans, how exactly could the persians have possibly won?

[Jim H]

Originally posted by RavenInk
wasn't really a victory- an outstanding display of endurance, and testament to the brilliance of the Spartan's phallanx stratergy, but at the end of the day, they all died. If that was a victory for the Spartans, how exactly could the persians have possibly won?

Well, you could argue that they delayed them long enough for the Greeks to regroup and prepare their defenses. If the pass hadn't been properly defended, it might have led to defeat of Greece as a whole as the armies were attacked from behind and unprepared.

[psycheoutsteve]

Originally posted by RavenInk
wasn't really a victory- an outstanding display of endurance, and testament to the brilliance of the Spartan's phallanx stratergy, but at the end of the day, they all died. If that was a victory for the Spartans, how exactly could the persians have possibly won?

Ever stop to think that I meant that it was a victory because the last stand of the 300 inspired the rest of Greece to rise up against the Persians and defeat them? If the Spartans hadn't of done this, Greece would've been conquered by the Persians.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by Jim H
Well, you could argue that they delayed them long enough for the Greeks to regroup and prepare their defenses. If the pass hadn't been properly defended, it might have led to defeat of Greece as a whole as the armies were attacked from behind and unprepared.

Not only that, but the 300 did weaken the Persian army. They lasted three days before the betrayal and (seemed to have) kicked ass the entire time.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
Talk about an overhyped overrated piece of exercise in tedium. I've even heard football players claim it "DUDE '300' IS LIKE TOTALLY THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME BRO".

300 could be summed up as two hours of half-naked dudes swinging swords around in slow motion. Or, it could be summed up as this: take the worst shots from the battle scenes in Spartacus, add in slow motion, a dab of bad acting, sprinkle in some CGI backgrounds, shake well, and you will have what is called the "300".

I would rather tit-fuck an octopus than watch this piece of shit again.


I said it before and i'll say it again , i have zero interest in watching a bunch of sweaty , grunting men in speedos run around a technicolor bluescreen world for 2 hours , but i'm sure women and guys who like guys get a kick out of that stuff . It's not my thing , and i can almost guarantee i will never watch this film as long as i live .

[bigred760]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
I said it before and i'll say it again , i have zero interest in watching a bunch of sweaty , grunting men in speedos run around a technicolor bluescreen world for 2 hours , but i'm sure women and guys who like guys get a kick out of that stuff . It's not my thing , and i can almost guarantee i will never watch this film as long as i live .

Typical homophobic excuse. There is female nudity (including one fiiine female), and the guys "running around" are killing people left and right and the action sequences are freakin' awesome.

So, you can avoid the movie because you're probably insecure about your manhood, but you're missing a kickass and stylish action movie.

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by bigred760

So, you can avoid the movie because you're probably insecure about your manhood, but you're missing a kickass and stylish action movie.

Agreed.

[FatSakHead]

*wrong thread*

[Jim H]

Originally posted by bigred760
Not only that, but the 300 did weaken the Persian army. They lasted three days before the betrayal and (seemed to have) kicked ass the entire time.

Herodotus claims they killed 25,000. He exaggerated the numbers in all likelihood, but I'd say 3000-5000 isn't hard to believe considering with the Thespians, there were about 1000 Greeks making the stand. Any other scholars making any estimates on the Persian dead?

[dreamcurls]

Originally posted by Tagia_Romero
Speaking from a female perspective that is mostly disregarded in terms of cinematic manudity, I have no argument with that. :D

as another female, i must chime in.
i had no problem with the attire in this film.
over all, i didn't think it was that bad of a film either. such hostility, sheesh :eek:

[dellamorte dellamore]

Nope , i'm perfectly secure in my manhood , and i choose not to watch this film . I don't care about the action , i can see that in any other film , it's not exactly groundbreaking just because the background is entirely cgi . I would say the same thing if it was primarily females running around half naked , i still wouldn't want to see it , it just doesn't look that interesting . I would rather watch any one of the Lotr films again than watch this film even once . At least they actually went on location in those films .


Whoever likes this film , great , but i really don't care if i ever see it , i know i won't be missing anything .

[quoth_the_raven]

Its nice to know I'm not alone in my mild dislike for this movie. it wasn't utterly dreadful, but I didn't especially enjoy it either.

i have a warm and gooey feeling of belonging now ;)

[dellamorte dellamore]

Does that mean we have formed an alliance ? I'm not sure we could , because you actually saw the film and didn't like it , and i haven't and don't want too :) .

Oh well , i'll have to watch it , so i can earn the hated it badge :D .

[vesaker]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
I don't care about the action , i can see that in any other film , it's not exactly groundbreaking just because the background is entirely cgi.

Questions, one how does the back ground have precident on the quality of the action? The back ground sets the context for the action like in a city there will be buildings and things that might blow up and in 300 its a rocky cliff. The backgrounds were all done CGI to get the colouring from the book to translate which could not have been done otherwise and was done pretty much perfectly.

Second, why would you think the action in 300 would be the same as other moives even movies that are in similar context like Gladiator? The action is not like the action in other action movies which is why it has been called inovative. And if you think its just slo mo (not that you said that but others have) perhaps you should acctually pay attention to the action and you will see its slowed and sped up not just a scene done slowly. Now i haven't seen every action movie of course but i have yet to see the style of action that was done in 300 used prior or since and the action in 300 is Excelent.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Oh jeez's.

I really like the movie. But . . .

It IS dumb-as-hell, guys, and it knows it. It's not trying to give any message about overcoming impossible odds (because LOL they don't) or never giving up. Just tell a cool story in a stylish way with big biceps and bigger attitudes all around.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
Nope , i'm perfectly secure in my manhood , and i choose not to watch this film . I don't care about the action , i can see that in any other film , it's not exactly groundbreaking just because the background is entirely cgi .

It's not just the CGI scenery, though it is pretty cool, but the way some of the action scenes are edited is freakin' incredible. Real fun to watch.

[AnakinSkywalker]

Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Oh jeez's.

I really like the movie. But . . .

It IS dumb-as-hell, guys, and it knows it. It's not trying to give any message about overcoming impossible odds (because LOL they don't) or never giving up. Just tell a cool story in a stylish way with big biceps and bigger attitudes all around.


Maybe...but, its still originally assembled and created. Definetely a movie for our generation. Just as Ben-Hur was for the last.

[Gutter Ghost]

I agree, 300 is one of the most overrated movies to come down the pike in some time.

[Dragula]

300 is not the greatest movie ever made but worth watching.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Slo mo , fast mo , slo mo then fast mo , i already saw that stuff in the Matrix films and Gladiator , i don't know why it's such a big deal . People can do that stuff with a home computer now , i know it won't look as good , but it just doesn't impress me , but yes eventually i will see it , and i'll let you know what i really think :) .

[jaw2929]

300 ate my fucking cock, and I walked out of the theatre about 40 minutes in. I'm still pissed about it.

:o


But really, 300 was a fucking pile of steaming horse-shit.

[I Am Legend]

Originally posted by Trail_Blazer
300 ate my fucking cock.

You lucky bastard!

I can't even get my girlfriend to do a threesome! :mad:

[electriclite]

It was fun.

[jaw2929]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
You lucky bastard!

I can't even get my girlfriend to do a threesome! :mad:

That was good ;)

[dellamorte dellamore]

Hmmm , now the film doesn't sound too bad , because that eating thing sounds like a compliment :D . Forget about 3somes , i can't even get onesomes .

[Jim H]

Originally posted by dellamorte dellamore
Hmmm , now the film doesn't sound too bad , because that eating thing sounds like a compliment :D . Forget about 3somes , i can't even get onesomes .

Then how do you type? :confused:

[dellamorte dellamore]

With my toes , that's why i mis spell so many words .

[Jim H]

How on earth wasn't it? Big buff action heroes sprewing awesome one-liners left and right. To me, it's just as good as the awesome action movies of the 80's, it's just this movie was one of those movies on top of an epic fantasy movie.

One of the more interesting things is that several of their lines are historically accurate. The best one probably being how the guy says their arrows will block out the sun, and one Spartan responds something like "So much the better, we shall fight in the shade."

[electriclite]

One of the more interesting things is that several of their lines are historically accurate. The best one probably being how the guy says their arrows will block out the sun, and one Spartan responds something like "So much the better, we shall fight in the shade."


Also Queen Gorgo's line about how only Spartan women can give birth to real men.

Its all in Herodotus.

[abraa cadaver]

It was based off a graphic novel, don't go in expecting something on the level of a Francis Ford Cappolla film.

In fact it was one of the few adaptations of a comic book to movie format that was any good.

[FrankT.JMackey]

Agreed!!! It is absolute shite. I blindbought it and it was so bad that I burned it!!!

[dellamorte dellamore]

Can i nominate you for president , not sure what for , or who for , but the comment was so brill , you have to take the lead on something .

I guess it should teach you not to blind buy anything , how the hell do you do that anyway , did you have a seeing eye dog that paid , and knew their way around a debit card .

[Spidey]

This version of 300 ain't so bad either :

300 United (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3CRE9kFRvo)

[xseanymacx]

"PERSIANS!! COME AND GET THEM!"

Enough said;)

[Natty]

''I would rather 'tit-fuck' an octopus''

As funny as this statement was - 300 ROCKED!!!

[bigred760]

I guess it should teach you not to blind buy anything , how the hell do you do that anyway , did you have a seeing eye dog that paid , and knew their way around a debit card .

I know . . . there's so many rental places out there . . . you can't spend $4-5 on the movie and get it back to them in 2 days?

[Jim H]

I know . . . there's so many rental places out there . . . you can't spend $4-5 on the movie and get it back to them in 2 days?

It's often hard to justify $5 when if you wait a few months you can buy it for $10. Of course, there is Net Flix.

[echo_bravo]

Just saw this film for the first time and was surprised at how much I liked it. I thought the acting was much much better than what I was expecting. Butler is one bad ass mofo.

8/10