Jamie Foxx is an idiot

[outsyder]

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah6563.shtml

Jamie Foxx Defends NFL Star Michael Vick Over Dog Fighting Charges

LOS ANGELES, Calif. (August 23, 2007) – Access Hollywood’s Shaun Robinson recently sat down with Jamie Foxx for a candid talk about Jamie’s new gig – and even a hot button topic from the world of sports – Michael Vick’s dog fighting charges.

Jamie is busy doing his thing on “The Foxxhole,” his weekly show on Sirius Satellite Radio show. And while an incredible LG Beach House in Malibu provides a spectacular summer backdrop, no subject is off-limits with Jamie, as Shaun found out during her stay as a special guest.

“Is he really going to jail?” Jamie asked Shaun about Michael Vick.

“Yes, he’s going to plea bargain,” Shaun said.

Although Vick has been almost universally condemned since agreeing to plead guilty to dog fighting conspiracy, according to Foxx, people should not be so quick to judge the NFL star.

“It’s a cultural thing, I think,” Jamie said. “Most brothers didn’t know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn’t know that was Fed time. So, mike probably just didn’t read his handbook on what not to do as a black star.”

While he has a way of lightening even the most sensitive of subjects, Jamie is sincere in his belief that the quarterback is not being given a fair shake.

“I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don’t get time,” Jamie continued. “I think in this situation, he really didn’t know the extent of it, so I always give him the benefit of the doubt.”

On Monday, Vick said through a lawyer that he will plead guilty to a federal charge of conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and conspiracy to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture.

Vick is scheduled to appear next Monday in U.S. District Court in Richmond, Virginia. According to reports, the recommended sentencing range will be from 12 to 18 months in prison.

[thedudeman69]

Yes. we should let him off because black people do it all the time in the "hood"

[Scarfather]

Jamie Foxx has always been an idiot.

“It’s a cultural thing, I think,” Jamie said. “Most brothers didn’t know that, you know. I used to see dogs fighting in the neighborhood all the time. I didn’t know that was Fed time. So, mike probably just didn’t read his handbook on what not to do as a black star.”

That's totally why he held them in a black shed with no windows at night.

"I didn't know!"

[Tweek]

AH! That is infuriating.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Yeah, and if it was a white guy he'd be the first one to throw a stone I bet. Asswipe.

[DarkKnight81]

Sounds like an episode of "The First 48" I saw the other night when the detectives were questioning the suspect and he just says, "yeah I put a hollow tip in him, thats how it goes in the hood."

[Tagia_Romero]

All I can say is outsyder's AV mimics how I feel at this news.

[electriclite]

Well I think we all know that dogfighting is illegal, just what level is what I think Foxx was talking about. Considering most crimes against animals are considered misdemeanors (Even for REALLY heinous stuff), and require NO jail time just a fine and some community service, it wouldn't surprise me if someone wasn't aware how severe the actual statutes are for dogfighting.

(however it does go against Dave Chappelle's statement about how every black man is a qualified paralegal;)

But in Vick's case I think its another bad example of the dangerous pairing of "the hood" mentality and a million dollar paycheck.

These guys get drafted from the hood almost straight out of highschool, with barely any real education except what they learn on the street, and then they're making bank we can only dream of coupled with loads of free-time during the off-season. These guys get bored and since there is BARELY much distance between the time they lived in "da hood" and now living the high life, they're gonna revert back to old favored methods of recreation.

It doesn't completely click for these guys that they're not in that world anymore and that they need to evolve past those old habits and beliefs because you're in THE FUCKING SPOTLIGHT, and that shit will come out especially when you're a rich as fuck football player!

[Vong]

[Kanye West Voice]"Black people do not care about dogs"[/Kanye West Voice]

[therealjohng]

Originally posted by Vong
[Kanye West Voice]"Black people do not care about dogs"[/Kanye West Voice]


Fucking gold.

[The Heart Collector]

who gives a shit about michael vick's crime


he put some fuckin dogs to fight, boo hoo.

they're fuckin DOGS.

[thedudeman69]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
who gives a shit about michael vick's crime


he put some fuckin dogs to fight, boo hoo.

they're fuckin DOGS.


wow. I guess you are totally avoiding the illegal part of it.

[notchreturns]

omg loz have you ever seena dog get shot in the head!!? fun!

even better, when you shock them to hell!

or omg, drowning!

wow, man.

but they're dogs, so who cares!

[The Heart Collector]

Right, who cares.

[Scarfather]

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Originally posted by The Heart Collector
who gives a shit about michael vick's crime


he put some fuckin dogs to fight, boo hoo.

they're fuckin DOGS.

http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg

If you can look at this and say who cares then you're a fucking terrible human being.

[outsyder]

I'm pretty sure THC's being facetious, but it looks like this is one of those times where people aren't seeing it.

[bigred760]

I don't know about the "cultural thing" remark, but Jamie Foxx knows more about the "hood" than I do. The guy spoke his mind and I don't think his comments are that bad. It's not like he was condoning it or anything.

“I know that cruelty to animals is bad, but sometimes people shoot people and kill people and don’t get time,” Jamie continued.

He's right about that. The gruesomeness of the crime is being escalated by animal rights groups.

[JJFlamingo]

Dogs are God's Babies like all other animals, and anyone who would do that to a dog as seen above is a piece of human sewage. As for Foxx, what a fucking moron, if you wanna say Vick's a great athlete and all that shit, fine, but don't fucking JUSTIFY what he did. Stupid motherfucker...:mad:

[Tagia_Romero]

Originally posted by Scarfather
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http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg

If you can look at this and say who cares then you're a fucking terrible human being.

Utterly heart-breaking. :(

[RustyRazor]

There are those that think dog fighting isn't such a bad thing.
"People get killed every day, it's just dogs."
The dog above didn't get mugged and shot for its belongings.
The dog above wasn't in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The dog above wasn't involved in a gang.

This is a fucked up world we live in, friends.
Truly fucked up.

[ilovemovies]

Aren't these dogs going to have to be put to sleep since they can't really be owned since they were trained to be vicious and attack?

[echo_bravo]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
who gives a shit about michael vick's crime


he put some fuckin dogs to fight, boo hoo.

they're fuckin DOGS.

:rolleyes:

It wasnt that he just had dogs fighting. He ELECTRICUTED them, drowned them, hung them and bashed their skulls onto the pavement. Yeah, whats the big deal.:rolleyes:

I also lost a lot of respect for Jamie Foxx. I thought he would be a lot smarter than that. What an idiot indeed.

[echo_bravo]

Originally posted by ilovemovies
Aren't these dogs going to have to be put to sleep since they can't really be owned since they were trained to be vicious and attack?

Basically. So sad...:(

[EVILxxx]

Someone should tell Jamie that ignorance of the law is never an acceptable defense.

[I Am Legend]

What is equally frightening is that the black community rallied behind an admitted criminal because of the mere fact that he has the same color skin.

[Tweek]

That picture=NOT OKAY.


And he had the dogs fucking KILLED OKAY?!

THat and the fact that it's illegal are what the big fucking deal is.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
What is equally frightening is that the black community rallied behind an admitted criminal because of the mere fact that he has the same color skin.

I'm black, Eritrean as a matter of fact, and i hate the asshole./

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
What is equally frightening is that the black community rallied behind an admitted criminal because of the mere fact that he has the same color skin.

Tell me about it. The NAACP was all over this as soon as it went down. Wonders never cease.

I'm black, Eritrean as a matter of fact, and i hate the asshole./

I think he meant a lot of the black leaders and groups. Obviously many people black or white are outraged, but very little of that sentiment has been heard by prominent blacks.

[Tweek]

OH! It makes sense now, what the other poster said.

[I Am Legend]

My post could have probably been clearer.

As EVILxxx stated, my post was geared more towards activist groups and community leaders.

[The Heart Collector]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
:rolleyes:

It wasnt that he just had dogs fighting. He ELECTRICUTED them, drowned them, hung them and bashed their skulls onto the pavement. Yeah, whats the big deal.:rolleyes:

Yeah, i don't care at all.

I understand that it's illegal, and I'm not saying the guy should walk away with no punishment, but forgive me if I don't want to burn him at the stake because "AW SHUCKS HE KILLED SOME CUTE LIL' DOGGIES". They're not fucking human.

Originally posted by Scarfather
If you can look at this and say who cares then you're a fucking terrible human being.

It's a fucking dog. Most people on these forums clamor, hoot and holler when a human being who's a celebrity gets sent to jail or has drug problems, wallowing in everyone's elses sad failings and calling people vapid cunts or crazy lunatics left and right, and you're saying i'm a terrible human being because I don't give a crap about some DOG? why, because it has cute puppy dog eyes? get out.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

The logic here is: because people treat each other horribly, it doesn't matter how we treat animals? I won't deny humans are fucking assholes to each other, but it's absurd to torture animals and he does deserve jailtime. Chances are someone who can do that to an animal can just as easily do it to a human.

Although, to be honest posting those pictures of the dogs was about as cheap as when pro-lifers post pictures of dead fetuses to make their argument.

[Quigles]

I'd be willing to bet 100 bucks that The Heart Collector has never, ever owned a dog. And if he has, and he still feels the way he does, then... seriously, what the fuck.

[gyro_44]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Yeah, i don't care at all.

I understand that it's illegal, and I'm not saying the guy should walk away with no punishment, but forgive me if I don't want to burn him at the stake because "AW SHUCKS HE KILLED SOME CUTE LIL' DOGGIES". They're not fucking human.



It's a fucking dog. Most people on these forums clamor, hoot and holler when a human being who's a celebrity gets sent to jail or has drug problems, wallowing in everyone's elses sad failings and calling people vapid cunts or crazy lunatics left and right, and you're saying i'm a terrible human being because I don't give a crap about some DOG? why, because it has cute puppy dog eyes? get out.
You are absolutely sick. Seek help.

[Shockwave]

...way to go man. Al Sharpton would be proud.

Man, im getting so tired about hearing "Its cause hes BLACK that your picking on him!" bullshit.

[Scarfather]

Originally posted by The Heart Collector
Yeah, i don't care at all.

I understand that it's illegal, and I'm not saying the guy should walk away with no punishment, but forgive me if I don't want to burn him at the stake because "AW SHUCKS HE KILLED SOME CUTE LIL' DOGGIES". They're not fucking human.



It's a fucking dog. Most people on these forums clamor, hoot and holler when a human being who's a celebrity gets sent to jail or has drug problems, wallowing in everyone's elses sad failings and calling people vapid cunts or crazy lunatics left and right, and you're saying i'm a terrible human being because I don't give a crap about some DOG? why, because it has cute puppy dog eyes? get out.

http://www.amifobornot.com/images/Monkey/funny-monkey-1.jpg

And you're a fucking monkey. The only difference between you and the dog is that you think that you're better then the other.

You're not.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Well, monkeys actually have emotions and feelings so I don't think that's a fair comparison.

[DarkKnight81]

I'll refrain from speaking openly on The Heart Collector's comments because I dont want to be kicked off this website. But yeah, most of you seem to get the idea.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Alright, although i disagree strongly to heart Collector's opinion, its his opinion. I dont think hes going to change his mind on what he believes jsut because a majority of us dont like what he said.

My take- Its sick what Michael Vick did, and i dont understand how Foxx could rationalize what he did as a "mistake". Hood or not, its illegal and hes going to pay for what he did. Simple as that.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Well, he definitely was right about the way we act when other people go through shit. Some people out there are probably having a ball over the fact that Owen Wilson tried to kill himself, and I imagine out of those people some of them detest Michael Vick.

Personally, I believe we should do neither. Vick deserves jail, dogfighting is evil and should be illegal, and celebrating human suffering is horrible and wrong.

[FatSakHead]

Anyone watch the Daily Show segment on this? What's really sad is the NFL commentators actually think the worst part about this are that people were betting on it.

Heart Collector, I agree with you a lot of times, but I'm going to have to call it on this one. Nobody's saying dogs are as important as humans, that's just asinine. But regardless, what that guy did to them was sick and inhumane. I hope someone slits his fucking throat and then squats over and shits in the open wound, then pinches his nose together with their fingers while holding together the open wound with their hands and shakes his fucking head furiously while someone else skullfucks him with a flaming cock. And yes I am a hypocrite.

[EVILxxx]

Everyone this is The Heart Collector. He is the board's resident heel. He hates you almost as much as he hates your mother.

Anyway it's not like Vick is getting the book thrown at him. Most non-celebrities would get massive jail-time if they were the ringleader of a major dog fighting circuit. One things for sure, what Vick did is way worse than what Don Imus did, and if I remember correctly that guy lost his job.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
Everyone this is The Heart Collector. He is the board's resident heel. He hates you almost as much as he hates your mother.

Anyway it's not like Vick is getting the book thrown at him. Most non-celebrities would get massive jail-time if they were the ringleader of a major dog fighting circuit. One things for sure, what Vick did is way worse than what Don Imus did, and if I remember correctly that guy lost his job.


Well nothing is done yet. The NFL might have something to say later on about the status of Vick's career.

(crossing fingers for a firing)

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by electriclite
Well nothing is done yet. The NFL might have something to say later on about the status of Vick's career.

(crossing fingers for a firing)

They should have already fired him. Im really starting to think they arent going to do shit.

[FatSakHead]

I think the NFL should have been shut down a long time ago. It's been contributing to the downfall of western civilization for a while, along with Nascar and American Idol.

[ilovemovies]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
I think the NFL should have been shut down a long time ago. It's been contributing to the downfall of western civilization for a while, along with Nascar and American Idol.

Right. :rolleyes:

[FatSakHead]

Oh please, the NFL is the most overrated past time in American history next to baseball. I also never understood why people get upset when their favorite teams lose. Because every team is striving to win, but for some reason some of them probably have this higher integrity surrounding them simply because you're rooting for them, when in reality football teams stand for nothing than a group of players each competiting against other groups, yet people still throw riots and rape in the streets whenever their team loses, as if Bush won another election. This goes for all televised sports.

They're all a bunch of whiny overpaid, over-protected pussies anyways with too long of a vacation. Rugby has always been a more real sport than football ever was.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Competetive competition has been around since the beginning of civilization. Football isn't destroying civilization. If anything, it's another great tradition that will be carried on through the ages. Although, I'm personally a basketball fan, especially college basketball (it's always a bad day when the Tar Heels lose). Of course people are going to be upset when their team loses.

[MISFITS_Fiend]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
Oh please, the NFL is the most overrated past time in American history next to baseball. I also never understood why people get upset when their favorite teams lose. Because every team is striving to win, but for some reason some of them probably have this higher integrity surrounding them simply because you're rooting for them, when in reality football teams stand for nothing than a group of players each competiting against other groups, yet people still throw riots and rape in the streets whenever their team loses, as if Bush won another election. This goes for all televised sports.

They're all a bunch of whiny overpaid, over-protected pussies anyways with too long of a vacation. Rugby has always been a more real sport than football ever was.

You are a bitter, bitter person. :rolleyes:

Not knocking rugby (never been a fan, though), but guys in tight nuthuggers involved in group hugs never did it for me. I do respect the no-pads aspect, though.

[EVILxxx]

Stop football and end street rape!

[FLAME_ON]

Originally posted by MISFITS_Fiend
Not knocking rugby (never been a fan, though), but guys in tight nuthuggers involved in group hugs never did it for me. I do respect the no-pads aspect, though.
Group hugs??? Those group hugs you're talking about could snap a person's neck with one wrong twist or turn. Haha I'm sorry it's off topic but I have to defend my sport. :D

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Competetive competition has been around since the beginning of civilization. Football isn't destroying civilization. If anything, it's another great tradition that will be carried on through the ages. Although, I'm personally a basketball fan, especially college basketball (it's always a bad day when the Tar Heels lose). Of course people are going to be upset when their team loses.

You know, I'm going to have to agree with you there. Basketball is the shit and IMO is infinitely more entertaining to watch than football. I'm going to hypocritcally say I'm a Tar Heels fan as well, being I'm from NC.

American Football=Throw ball, run ball for 3 years, get tackles, repeat 3 times until ball turns over to other team, repeat, ad nauseum, add screaming fat fans with blocks of cheese on their heads and huge #1 gloves.

[MISFITS_Fiend]

Originally posted by FLAME_ON
Group hugs??? Those group hugs you're talking about could snap a person's neck with one wrong twist or turn. Haha I'm sorry it's off topic but I have to defend my sport. :D

LOL Yeah, I was being a bit of an ass with that statement. I know the scrums can get pretty vicious in rugby; but like you said, I gotta defend my sport!!! :D

[bigred760]

What happened to this thread?

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
Well, monkeys actually have emotions and feelings so I don't think that's a fair comparison.

Huh? Dogs don't?:confused:

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by Scorpio24
Huh? Dogs don't?:confused:

No, I was jokingly talking about Heart Collector. It's his whole facade.

[Mentiroso]

I am not a dog person, cant stand the smelly bastards but it is fucked up what they did to them. Very sad. Vick deserves all the time he gets plus some he probably wont get. Sucks that I am a Falcons fan too because now we are stuck with Joey Harrington. Who knows though, maybe he can get the team going.

[echo_bravo]

Originally posted by Mentiroso
I am not a dog person, cant stand the smelly bastards but it is fucked up what they did to them. Very sad. Vick deserves all the time he gets plus some he probably wont get. Sucks that I am a Falcons fan too because now we are stuck with Joey Harrington. Who knows though, maybe he can get the team going.

I am a Dolphins fan and we had Joey Harrington last year, he actually isnt too bad. He won us a number of games. You guys have good receivers so that should help him a lot.

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
I am a Dolphins fan and we had Joey Harrington last year, he actually isnt too bad. He won us a number of games. You guys have good receivers so that should help him a lot.


Well Vick has had a couple of years to get the team somewhere and so far hasnt but he puts on a damn good show so I could live with it. Maybe Harrington can gets us to the championships in the next couple of years unlike Vick. I doubt they will do anything this year unless he has a breakout year like Kurt Warner did with the Rams in 99.

[Scorpio24]

Originally posted by Brando @$$ Fat
No, I was jokingly talking about Heart Collector. It's his whole facade.

I really got to to start working on picking up on sarcasm.

[Kevin Lockard]

Everyone this is The Heart Collector. He is the board's resident heel. He hates you almost as much as he hates your mother.

Which is funny, since when quite a few people was bashing Anna Nicole Smith after she died, he was the one who was saying they were idiots ("internet toughs" I think would sum it up) and that we should all respect her and embrace her memory simply because she popped another baby out of her infested womb before she passed.

[Mentiroso]

Originally posted by God of Cinema
Everyone this is The Heart Collector. He is the board's resident heel. He hates you almost as much as he hates your mother.

Which is funny, since when quite a few people was bashing Anna Nicole Smith after she died, he was the one who was saying they were idiots ("internet toughs" I think would sum it up) and that we should all respect her and embrace her memory simply because she popped another baby out of her infested womb before she passed.


He enjoys coming up with a response that is the exact opposite of the majority, then adding a dash of rudeness, sprinkle of insult and letting it rip.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by God of Cinema
Everyone this is The Heart Collector. He is the board's resident heel. He hates you almost as much as he hates your mother.

Which is funny, since when quite a few people was bashing Anna Nicole Smith after she died, he was the one who was saying they were idiots ("internet toughs" I think would sum it up) and that we should all respect her and embrace her memory simply because she popped another baby out of her infested womb before she passed.

Actually, if I remember correctly, Heart Collector was bashing Anna Nicole as well. And I agreed with him.

[Kevin Lockard]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
Actually, if I remember correctly, Heart Collector was bashing Anna Nicole as well. And I agreed with him.

Dig up the old link of her death, he was calling someone (don't remember who) "edgy" and "hard" simply because they were saying we were better off with her dead.

[EVILxxx]

It looks like Whoopi Goldberg is an idiot as well.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2007/09/04/sot.whoopi.vick.comments.cnn

[JJFlamingo]

I can't really rip into Whoopi too much here, simply because it was the WAY she explained it, without condoning his actions or anyone else's, that made all the difference in this case...

[electriclite]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
It looks like Whoopi Goldberg is an idiot as well.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/showbiz/2007/09/04/sot.whoopi.vick.comments.cnn


She pretty much said what I said. Its indicative of where and how you're raised.

Once you get out of your "hood" and take a look at how the rest of the world works, like through a gradual process such as an out of state-college, you learn and leave those things behind.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by electriclite
She pretty much said what I said. Its indicative of where and how you're raised.

Once you get out of your "hood" and take a look at how the rest of the world works, like through a gradual process such as an out of state-college, you learn and leave those things behind.

But he didn't learn to leave it behind. The guy has millions of dollars and he doesn't yet know that dog-fighting is morally abhorrent? It seems like the people defending him think he is some kind of half-wit.

[Badbird]

I don't think Whoopi was defending him at all. More like condemning southern culture in general.

He really didn't think he was doing wrong, nor did anyone else. That's the way people think down there. Hell, cockfighting was still legal in Louisiana until just a few years ago.

[FatSakHead]

Now cockfighting I would condone. I want some entertainment before I eat my drumstick.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
But he didn't learn to leave it behind. The guy has millions of dollars and he doesn't yet know that dog-fighting is morally abhorrent? It seems like the people defending him think he is some kind of half-wit.


Thank you! I think what Goldberg had to say was much smarter than Foxx's dumbass comments, but yeah here you have a guy who, despite being a dumbass, was able to get into a good college and keep his grades high enough to continue playing football. Vick had plenty of legal woes before this dogfighting thing came out, so I imagine he knew enough about the law to realize that *gasp* dogfighting isn't legal! So the argument that he probably didn't know it was wrong really doesn't fly here.

Besides, dogfighting is more of an urban thing than a southern thing. It's probably going on in New York and Boston. Hell, we can just assume it's going on in Newark.:p

[Superplasmatron]

you think dog fightings bad you should see this abomination


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QwXDX6Ds0



but even in nature things like this happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V4dPkMA58g

[Shockwave]

"The Fox feels nothing,......its made of string."

:p :p

Freaking awesome.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by EVILxxx
But he didn't learn to leave it behind. The guy has millions of dollars and he doesn't yet know that dog-fighting is morally abhorrent? It seems like the people defending him think he is some kind of half-wit.


Well we got a president who still says "Nucular" even after being told how to correctly pronounce it, because its how he learned to say it from where he grew up.

Some learned behavior dies fucking hard and goes beyond logic.

I don't know exactly know how many people directly confronted Vick in a civil discourse about how morally abhorrent dogfighting is (I'm gonna guess 0)., and anyway one person's moral outrage is another person's "eh".

Of course that doesn't matter, because whether he knew how evil it was or not, he sure did know it was illegal.

[I Am Legend]

Originally posted by Badbird
He really didn't think he was doing wrong, nor did anyone else. That's the way people think down there. Hell, cockfighting was still legal in Louisiana until just a few years ago. [/B]

I'm sorry but I don't buy that at all.

Vick understood 100 per cent that what he was doing was immoral and illegal, but like a large number of professional athletes nowadays, he wanted to use his newfound fortune to promote a “gangsta” image and lifestyle.

There’s a reason many of these millionaires go around with “posses” and often get busted because they are “packin’ heat”.

Myself? I think it's pathetically hilarious that a multi-millionaire would risk his freedom for a few thousand dollars, which is no more than pocket change for him.

[electriclite]

Originally posted by I Am Legend


Myself? I think it's pathetically hilarious that a multi-millionaire would risk his freedom for a few thousand dollars, which is no more than pocket change for him.

You're assuming the payoff is the point.

The guy actually managed and organized these fights, he wasn't settling for being just a competitor. Apparently the off-season was a little too boring for Vicky.

[I Am Legend]

I don't think the payoff was Vick's sole purpose --- I truly believe a lot of these guys get off on trying to portray themselves as big bad ganstas, and he likely thought that running an illegal dog-fighting ring would do wonders for his all-important street cred.

Fa shizzle my nizzle, homie. :D

[Superplasmatron]

talk about cruelty to horses


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ5De6eNfVc

[Badbird]

Originally posted by I Am Legend
I'm sorry but I don't buy that at all.

Vick understood 100 per cent that what he was doing was immoral and illegal, but like a large number of professional athletes nowadays, he wanted to use his newfound fortune to promote a “gangsta” image and lifestyle.

Well, okay. I'm sure he knew it was illegal in some way - but I don't think he thought it was bad. You see what I mean? He knew it was illegal but didn't know why because it was something he liked.

[I Am Legend]

Originally posted by Badbird
Well, okay. I'm sure he knew it was illegal in some way - but I don't think he thought it was bad. You see what I mean? He knew it was illegal but didn't know why because it was something he liked.

I understand your view, I just respectfully disagree with it.

I doubt Vick believed there was nothing wrong with killing dogs by electrocution or drowning. He knew that it was bad. He just didn’t care.

And now the scumbag is getting exactly what he deserves.

[EVILxxx]

Originally posted by Badbird
Well, okay. I'm sure he knew it was illegal in some way - but I don't think he thought it was bad. You see what I mean? He knew it was illegal but didn't know why because it was something he liked.

If Vick's attorney calls dog fighting mala prohibita in his opening statement I'll laugh my ass off.

[FatSakHead]

Of course the NFL still thinks the only thing wrong with the dog fighting was the gambling. I wish that idiot corporation would just go away.

[outsyder]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/gossip/pagesix/elevator_hog.htm

We can now add 'asshole' to appropriate titles for Jamie Foxx.

[FatSakHead]

Jamie Foxx needs his ass beat.

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by outsyder
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/gossip/pagesix/elevator_hog.htm

We can now add 'asshole' to appropriate titles for Jamie Foxx.

Im hoping its been known for a long time now.

Not that event in particular, just that he seems to be an asshole in general.:)

[SweetEnLow]

Originally posted by Badbird
Well, okay. I'm sure he knew it was illegal in some way - but I don't think he thought it was bad. You see what I mean? He knew it was illegal but didn't know why because it was something he liked.

You honestly believe he didn't know it was bad? Is he a retard then? He knew it was both. Did he ever publicly advertise that he did it? Nope. Didn't we find out by accident? I'm not sure how it was discovered.... He covered it up, he knew it was illegal and immoral, but he is immoral.

It's not like the bastard even needed the money (it would still disgust me if he was poor). He's rich, the money to him was like coffee money for any of us. He's richer than most of us will ever hope to be. He's just a sick asshole who got off watching animals suffer.

[Imani Aziz]

Anyone who can do this to any animal needs to do jail time and lot's of it. As for Mr Fox, it kills me that every time someone comes out to speak about something a black person does they find some reason to defend this person and act as if they are excused because they are poor or black or both. Im black and it makes me sick to keep hearing quality of life and race used as an excuse. And its embarrassing.

I just want people to learn to think before they speak and what the hell how bout not breaking the law while you're at it.

[Tweek]

Originally posted by outsyder
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09052007/gossip/pagesix/elevator_hog.htm

We can now add 'asshole' to appropriate titles for Jamie Foxx.

Officially, I'm turned off from paying to see "The Kingdom". Not even the lovely Jennifer Garner and Jason Bateman can get me to pay for it.

[Imani Aziz]

Amen

[The Postmaster General]

Originally posted by outsyder
I'm pretty sure THC's being facetious, but it looks like this is one of those times where people aren't seeing it.


I felt Foxx was being so too. It alluded to him making light of the situation with his comments.

About Vick, I feel pretty inline with those saying that he should be lynched... Wait.... No, what he did really bugs me. I don't go for cruelity towards living things. Period. Okay, that was two periods - period

Anyway, I think Foxx was making light of the situation, which is what comedians do. Part of his problem is that no one knows what his forte is supposed to be anymore. If he'd done a Michael Vick sketch on In Living Color, with the same "joke" premise, I could imagine most of us would think it's pretty funny. As it stands, he's Jaime Foxx taking up for a deplorable pro athlete.

I think the area isn't as clear as context this quote has been given to us.

[darchangel]

Can we make Michael Vick, Jamie Foxx and THC have a brutal fight for our amusement?

I have 10 bucks on THC.