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Kevin Lockard
08-30-2007, 04:40 AM
I'm not sure how many others on this board are fans of H20, but me being one with them, and H20 being a direct sequel to Halloween 2, skipping over Parts 4, 5, and 6 (more's the thankful for that), I would like to pose a theory - what if it had been a direct sequel to only the first movie instead?

Let's consider some things here;
Laurie Strode is still haunted by the fact that she believes Michael Myers is coming for her 20 years after she apparently watched him burn in the conclusion of Halloween 2. How is that plausible? Being haunted by hellish memories of Myers that she would no doubt suffer from because of that horrible Halloween night two decades before is perfectly fine, but actually believing he is coming for you? We are never actually given a reason as to why this is, though the obvious one would have to be because Myers is nowhere to be found, his body not even claimed, coma or otherwise, as in Part 4, especially since Dr. Loomis was also concnered with tracking Myers down for those near 20 years as well (which is kind of icky as well, because wouldn't it have been better just to write him off as dead in the explosion anyhow, since he's not in Part 7?)

I think a better alternative, in the event that H20 is a direct sequel to the original instead of the second one, is that it all makes more sense when Myers is shot and then vanishes. Afterwards, you have Dr. Loomis (minus the explosion) spending those 20 years waiting for Myers to reappear or whatnot, eventually dying with Myers probably as his last thought, and you have Laurie having a reasonable explanation for her being paranoid for Myers seeking revenge. And you, again, don't need a gapping reason for Myers being "missing" either, like you would have had he been burnt as in the end of the second one.

I like that better.

On top of that, when H20 was promoted, it was in a way that it was billed as almost a sequel to the first anyhow. Yes, "20 years" refers to both 1&2, having took place on the same night, but that doesn't change the fact that it was treated, more or less, almost as a sequel to the original regardless.

Basically, the only hiccup is that it was only revealed in Part 2 that Myer's motivation for going after Laurie is that she is his sister. However, we as an audince know this is already the case so, when it is said simply in passing in H20 as if we are already supposed to know anyhow, it's not really a big deal.


All in all, that's my take on that one. I suppose it doesn't matter, but it was just something I wanted to bring to the table for opinions. (It should also be noted I'm taking into account that H20 had also been the last one as well, which I think would have been just sweet.)

XCoRyX
08-30-2007, 06:43 AM
Due to the "power" (I call it bitch and moaning) of Jamie Lee Curtis, the latter sequels were ignored. The 20 years concept was a good one,but the way they tried to pull it off wasn't for me...I guess thats because I loved 4 and 6 equally to any other Halloween film. I'm not saying their as original or classic as to the First,but I have just as much fun watching them. I didn't grow up watching the originals, I grew up watching 4 & 5 religiously,and later 6 after it was released.

I just don't find it right to ignore sequels of a franchise. If they ignored so many things, I would've at the very least wanted Jamie Lloyd back to be side by side with her mother,reuniting and the such. That still would've been annoying at first but I could grow on seeing BOTH queens of the franchise back together,and it could finally show us just what could've been done with the storyline sans H6. And we could've gotten rid of the Dawsons Creek/Scream ripoff characters and sidetracks. If they wanted to bring in the teen kids angle for casting fresh faces,they could've done the very same, replace John Tate with female Danielle Harris/Jamie Lloyd,and for her friends,then cast new/fresh Dawson Creeks alumini if that hard on for it.

teenkiller
08-30-2007, 10:44 AM
Well it would have been pretty hard to have a reunion after what happened to Jamie in Curse. I mean it would have been REALLY ridiculous if both characters had faked their deaths and fooled Michael. I would have wanted at least a mention of her though. Maybe stating why she left Jamie behind but stuck with John or something. Jamie Lee got things her way but not even that could save us from... Resurrection... Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

JJFlamingo
08-30-2007, 12:04 PM
It's mentioned at one point in a conversation between Laurie and her son how he burned up in the fire in the hospital so the "direct sequel to part one" theory doesn't work. I AM bothered by the "Jamie just didn't exist" conceit of the film, mainly because I have NO problem with 4 and 5, and as for 6, I'll just wait for The Producer's Cut to be officially released, since the regular version SUCKED...:D

XCoRyX
08-30-2007, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by teenkiller
Well it would have been pretty hard to have a reunion after what happened to Jamie in Curse.

True, but I find it just as annoying & hard trying to act like 4-6 never happened,and that they couldn't have even just said something about Jaime.Then again I've found both H20 & Resurrection ridiculous in general,so i'm likely just being biased towards how much I dislike them.

Kevin Lockard
08-30-2007, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by JJFlamingo
It's mentioned at one point in a conversation between Laurie and her son how he burned up in the fire in the hospital so the "direct sequel to part one" theory doesn't work.

I'm aware of that, but that could be changed to just him informing her that if Myers was gonna come back after her, he wouldn't give it two decades.


Just for the record, I didn't mind the sequels being ignored, to be honest. Out of 4-6, the only ones I really care for is Part 4, and I only care for it up until Loomis reaches Haddonfield, minus all the parts with Jamie and her sister and everything. I never liked her character.

robk
12-01-2007, 10:45 PM
H20 followed the same track as Superman Returns in that it only acknowledges the events of its 1st 2 predecessors.
In both cases, I couldn't really argue with that strategy, even though Danielle Harris, Donald Pleasance, Ellie Cornell, Gene Hackman, Annette O'Toole, and Christopher Reeve did their best to made the 'ignored' films watchable.
Another parallel, Harris and O'Toole would both re-emerge as different characters in reinventions of the respective series(Zombie's Halloween & Smallville).

GodHand
12-01-2007, 11:45 PM
H20 was God awful. That mask...Michael's almost senseless irritability as he frantically tries to find his sister at the school? Come on. Michael's much calmer and more collected and patient than that. It just drove me nuts. Not to mention, 99% of the cast couldn't act in a "horror" movie for shit.

Did I mention the mask sucked?

starcat
12-02-2007, 01:59 AM
yeah, and pissed me off when they said return to sleepaway camp would be a direct sequel to the first, acting as if the second and third nevver happened... sequel skipping is stupid. myself... i think they should make one more halloween... a direct sequel to part 3... call it halloween 9 - the return of silver shamrock

GodHand
12-02-2007, 12:01 PM
Maybe I'm one of the few that's a fan of the Thorn storyline, *shrug*.

MisterTwister
12-03-2007, 03:01 PM
I hate H20 and I definately hate the fact it ignored 4-6. Yeah 5 and 6 weren't all that (especially 5) but you just don't flat out ignore them, stupid idea.

Plus the film didn't feel like a Halloween movie but more like a Scream film with appreances by Jamie Lee and Michael Myers.

This film should've been great but sadly it wasn't meant to be.

Bourne101
12-05-2007, 07:30 PM
I loved H20 and thought it was the scariest next to Halloween and probably the second or third best in the series. Mikey was looking badass and scary, and the scene where Mikey kills Jodi Lyn O'Keefe was pretty damn creepy.

Cronos
12-06-2007, 05:51 AM
Aside from the Producer's Cut of 6 H2O is the only remotely watchable sequel after 3 and that's only because it makes me laugh. It didn't bother me that they ignored 4-6, it's for the better.

Gutter Ghost
12-06-2007, 06:20 AM
I still say Halloween III is the best of all the sequels, by far.