Oscar winning actors that need their statuettes revoked...

[Quigles]

URL: http://quigs.blogspot.com/2007/08/ten-oscar-winning-actors-that-need.html

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Ah yes, the Academy Awards. Such a prestigious honor, reserved only for the most dignified and distinguished faces in show business. Of course, they would hold a lot more merit if some of the winning actors didn't turn the show into a total mockery with their subsequent career choices. C'mon now people, the Oscars are the closest thing we have to reputable film awards. If we don't have that, then all we've got are the Golden Globes, or god forbid... the MTV Movie Awards. *shudder*

So with that said, here are the ten most notorious contenders for sullying the Academy Awards' name. (Well, more than it has been already.)


10. Robert De Niro

http://thekratsite.com/blog/oscars/robertdeniro.jpg

Got the Oscar for:
The Godfather: Part II
Raging Bull
Needs it taken away for:
The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle
Showtime
Analyze That
Hide and Seek
Godsend
Meet the Fockers
15 Minutes
Before you jump down my throat, allow me to explain myself. There's a huge difference between Robert De Niro the "actor" and Robert De Niro the "comedian". I appreciate that he's one of the seminal actors of our time, but after "The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle", his career went straight to hell. A man that once had his resume filled with movies like "Goodfellas", "The Deer Hunter", "Heat", "Raging Bull", and "Taxi Driver", was suddenly mugging for the camera in awful comedies like "Showtime" and "Analyze That". Oh please, say it ain't so.

More disappointingly, once he started doing comedy, even his dramatic roles took a turn for the worst. He became... dull. Did anybody see "Hide & Seek"? The guy looked half-asleep for its entire duration. A pair of shoes could've out-acted him. That, and the film sucked.

Will we ever get back the Robert De Niro that was once so loved? I can only hope.


9. JEREMY IRONS

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Got the Oscar for:
Reversal of Fortune
Needs it taken away for:
Dungeons & Dragons
Eragon
You'd think after the guy played one of the worst villains of all time in one of the worst movies of all time, "Dungeons & Dragons", he'd learn to steer clear of anything involving those fire-breathing (and career-destroying) beasts. Fuck, I'm pretty sure that's a default reaction for ALL actors, since the closest thing we've ever had to a decent dragon movie was the mediocre "Reign of Fire".

Mr. Irons, I can forgive you for the first fuck up, but after "Eragon"... you're on your own.


8. MICHAEL DOUGLAS

http://thekratsite.com/blog/oscars/michaeldouglas.jpg

Got the Oscar for:
Wall Street
Needs it taken away for:
The In-Laws
It Runs in the Family
Don't Say a Word
The Sentinel
One Night at McCool's
You, Me and Dupree
It's easy to envy Michael Douglas for being able to tap THIS (http://thekratsite.com/blog/oscars/catherinezetajones.jpg) every day, but it's hard to envy where his career has gone. Since 2000's "Traffic", the guy hasn't made a single good movie. Six films. All of them shit. That's gotta be some kind of record, especially for somebody of his caliber. It seems that Mr. Bobby De Niro isn't the only actor to suffer from "Hey, I wan't to be a comedian now!" syndrome.


7. BEN KINGSLEY

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Got the Oscar for:
Gandhi
Needs it taken away for:
BloodRayne
A Sound of Thunder
Thunderbirds
Species
What Planet Are You From?
It amazes me that Uwe Boll can officially state he's had an Academy Award winning actor star in one of his films. Even more amazing is that said actor happens to be the brilliantly talented Ben Kingsley. Somebody really needs to fire their agent. Either that, or Ben is just fond of playing ridiculously over-the-top baddies that look so goofy, they'd give the villainous Zorg from "The Fifth Element" a run for his money.

But don't take my word for it, see for yourself:

http://thekratsite.com/blog/oscars/benkingsley2.jpg

Yikes.


6. NICOLAS CAGE

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Got the Oscar for:
Leaving Las Vegas
Needs it taken away for:
The Wicker Man
Ghost Rider
Next
Con Air
Gone in Sixty Seconds
Between 2002 and 2005, Nicolas Cage made four of the best films of their respective years: "Adaptation", "The Weather Man", "Matchstick Men", and "Lord of War". And in his infinite wisdom, he decided to follow up those choices with three of the worst: "The Wicker Man", "Ghost Rider", and "Next". Now whenever I go back to try and appreciate the excellence of those first four movies (as well as some of the others he's done), I find myself unable to watch him while keeping a straight face. All I can think about is his performance as Johnny Blaze, the worst Elvis impersonator on earth. And then of course, there's "The Wicker Man"...

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You know, on second thought, let's not even go there.

[Quigles]

5. JON VOIGHT

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Got the Oscar for:
Coming Home
Needs it taken away for:
Bratz: The Movie
SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2
The Karate Dog
Transformers
Anaconda
Most Wanted
Whatever shred of dignity Jon Voight had left after "SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2", the recently released live-action "Bratz" movie has officially obliterated it.

Jon Voight has always had an on-and-off career, with the occasional solid movie helping to prove his worth as an actor. But, there's a pretty fine line between having a good acting resume and having a bad one; if "The Karate Dog (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0270882/)" is on your resume, I can promise you're nowhere near it.


4. ROBIN WILLIAMS

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Got the Oscar for:
Good Will Hunting
Needs it taken away for:
License to Wed
RV
Night at the Museum
Patch Adams
Flubber
Robin Williams has become so unfunny, he's regressed to the point where I've started questioning why I even found him funny to begin with. This was especially evident while watching "License to Wed", a prime candidate for the worst film of 2007. I also think it marked the first time I've ever felt such ruthlessly sadistic hatred for a man of the cloth. The only thing keeping me from simultaneously storming out of the theater while flipping my friends the bird for having me sit through that garbage, was the oh-so-desperate hope of seeing Williams getting a fist placed firmly in his face. When John Krasinski threw out that punch near the end, and Robin Williams went tumbling backwards, I burst into raucous applause. It may have been staged, but goddamn, just the thought of it being real was satisfying enough.


3. WHOOPI GOLDBERG

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Got the Oscar for:
Ghost
Needs it taken away for:
Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit
Theodore Rex
How Stella Got Her Groove Back
Made in America
Eddie
Bogus
All of her TV shit...
If I even need to explain this one to you, then you've never seen "Hollywood Squares".


2. HALLE BERRY

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Got the Oscar for:
Monster's Ball
Needs it taken away for:
Catwoman
Perfect Stranger
Gothika
Die Another Day
Swordfish
X-Men: The Last Stand
The immediate year following her Oscar win with "Monster's Ball", Halle Berry won the Razzie for Worst Actress with "Catwoman". She gets major cool points for actually showing up to accept the award (even going as far as to mock her Oscar speech from the year prior), but that doesn't come close to making up for the film itself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmjyV2Z7wLw). It also doesn't make up for the fact that she's just never been that good of an actress, delivering about 1 good performance for every 25 bad. So as long as she chugs out another 25 films as quickly as possibly over the next ten years, there's at least one other gem bound to pop up... right?

Feel free to hold your breath.


1. CUBA GOODING JR.

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Got the Oscar for:
Jerry Maguire
Needs it taken away for:
Daddy Day Camp
Snow Dogs
Boat Trip
Norbit
Chill Factor
Rat Race
All of his straight-to-DVD crap...
Here he is. The man that inspired this list. It's sad really; he began his career so promisingly, only to have it repeatedly plummet into the depths of acting hell.

Not only is he now picking up the scraps of another was-once-great-but-is-now-shit actor's roles (that being, Eddie Murphy's character from "Daddy Day Care"), but he's doing it under the direction of Fred fucking Savage, the kid from "The Wonder Years".

Like Robert De Niro and Michael Douglas before him, comedies have made a joke out of Cuba Gooding Jr... And not the kind of joke where you're laughing with him.

However, unlike De Niro or Douglas, Cuba's chances of recovery are almost zero. You don't make something like "Daddy Day Camp" right before your next big break; you make it on your acting career deathbed, with heart failure imminent upon the film's release. And with this past Wednesday, you could hear Cuba's going into arrest from well over half the country away. Rest in peace, man, rest in peace.


Dishonorable Mention: Hilary Swank — The Reaping? The Core? The Black Dahlia? You have two Oscars, babe. Start acting like it.

[LordSimen]

Transformers and Con Air should not be listed as reasons for getting your oscar revoked. They're awesome movies.

[zombievictim]

Originally posted by LordSimen
Transformers and Con Air should not be listed as reasons for getting your oscar revoked. They're awesome movies.

Saying that should get all of your possessions revoked!

:D

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by zombievictim
Saying that should get all of your possessions revoked!

:D

Oh come on, there's no way Transformers is on the same level as Baby Genius' 2 or is Con Air on par with The Wicker Man. :p

[Brando @$$ Fat]

That's not a bad idea. Might keep some of these people in line. Jon Voight is a lost cause, though. Even his own daughter can't stand his presence. It has nothing to do with his family history, he just sucks so much.

[therealjohng]

Sister Act 2 was boss.


Lauryn Hill represent bitches!!!!!!!!

[zombievictim]

Originally posted by LordSimen
Oh come on, there's no way Transformers is on the same level as Baby Genius' 2 or is Con Air on par with The Wicker Man. :p ]

I look at it as comparing their work. And Con Air and Transformers are both weak links.

[The Pin]

Originally posted by LordSimen
Transformers and Con Air should not be listed as reasons for getting your oscar revoked. They're awesome movies. Beat me to the punch Con Air rocks.

[Quigles]

Originally posted by LordSimen
Transformers and Con Air should not be listed as reasons for getting your oscar revoked. They're awesome movies.
I listed those two because of Nic Cage's and Jon Voight's acting, not the movies themselves.

I actually love both CON AIR (http://www.joblo.com/reviews.php?mode=joblo_dvds&id=1282) and TRANSFORMERS (http://quigs.blogspot.com/2007/07/review-transformers.html).

[LordSimen]

Originally posted by Quigles
I listed those two because of Nic Cage's and Jon Voight's acting, not the movies themselves.

I actually love both CON AIR (http://www.joblo.com/reviews.php?mode=joblo_dvds&id=1282) and TRANSFORMERS (http://quigs.blogspot.com/2007/07/review-transformers.html).


Ah, okay. Well then... I forgive you. :p

[bigred760]

I disagree with all of this because Oscars do not define careers (unless it's a Lifetime Achievement Award I guess); they define one performance in one year. While these actors have not had stellar careers AFTER their wins, that doesn't mean that their careers are shit anyway. Robert Deniro will not be remembered for Hide & Seek or Rocky & Bullwinkle (what's with the "&," he should steer clear of movies with that in the title), but for Raging Bull, Goodfellas and the like. Whoopi Goldberg has only been in one or two great movies, and Ghost wasn't one of them. A lot of the movies that actors were in BEFORE they won an Oscar weren't that great either.

It's not like if they win a Razzie THAN an Oscar that they should have the Razzie taken away.

[Frank the Tank]

Rat Race, Species, and Night At The Museum were fine. Con Air is fun to laugh at for being so ridiculous.

[Quigles]

Originally posted by bigred760
I disagree with all of this because Oscars do not define careers (unless it's a Lifetime Achievement Award I guess); they define one performance in one year. While these actors have not had stellar careers AFTER their wins, that doesn't mean that their careers are shit anyway. Robert Deniro will not be remembered for Hide & Seek or Rocky & Bullwinkle (what's with the "&," he should steer clear of movies with that in the title), but for Raging Bull, Goodfellas and the like. Whoopi Goldberg has only been in one or two great movies, and Ghost wasn't one of them. A lot of the movies that actors were in BEFORE they won an Oscar weren't that great either.

It's not like if they win a Razzie THAN an Oscar that they should have the Razzie taken away.
For the record, I agree with what you're saying. My rant was more about how baffling it is that these great Academy Award winning actors have ended up starring in such crap. I'm not actually rallying for them to have their Oscars taken away. It was just my way of making a point.

Originally posted by Frank the Tank
Rat Race, Species, and Night At The Museum were fine. Con Air is fun to laugh at for being so ridiculous.
Take away Rat Race, and you still have Daddy Day Camp, Snow Dogs, Boat Trip, Norbit, and Chill Factor.

Take away Species, and you still have The Wicker Man, Ghost Rider, Next, and Gone in Sixty Seconds.

As for Con Air, read through the rest of the comments. It's already been addressed.

[EvilHenchman]

Cuba could perhaps reclaim some of his reputation by taking on some supporting roles in character-driven pieces rather than the ridiculous action or comedy vehicles he's prone to doing.

(Maybe his hawking Hanes underwear with Michael Jordan is a step in the right direction? ;))

While I agree that most of the other actors on the list have somewhat tarnished his or her Oscar achievement (most egregiously: Nic Cage) with questionable post-win choices, I think you could also make a case for the Oscar winners who have virtually dropped off the cinematic radar altogether, having done next to nothing since their moment of glory.

Mira Sorvino - I'm talking about you, girl.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally posted by Quigles



Take away Rat Race, and you still have Daddy Day Camp, Snow Dogs, Boat Trip, Norbit, and Chill Factor.

Take away Species, and you still have The Wicker Man, Ghost Rider, Next, and Gone in Sixty Seconds.

As for Con Air, read through the rest of the comments. It's already been addressed.

I'm not sticking up for either of their actors, just that those films don't deserve to be mentioned with the rest. Maybe Con Air does though, I just enjoy it either way.

[outsyder]

Leave Nic Cage alone. I'm not sure if the other actors know their movies are shit whilst they make them, but I think Cage knows exactly what he's doing and salvages each terrible movie he's in through his subtle, hilarious performances.

I believe this only because out of all the actors you listed, he's the only one still delivering knockout performances in between the crap he's in.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

De Niro deserves a break. He's trying, he's just had a weak streak.

I don't think Jeremy Irons has been in enough shit films to have his Oscar revoked.

Mike Douglas is really the same guy he was. Basic Instinct was just as shitty as any of the current films he's been in. He was really good in Wall Street and Traffic, but most of his films have been mediocre sex thrillers.

Ben Kingsley should not only have his Oscar revoked, but he should also have his knighthood revoked.

Nicolas Cage. Meh, his role in Leaving Las Vegas was far too different than the typical roles he's done. He definitely deserved the Oscar, and I think the guy is doing the roles he was meant to do, even if those roles are in shit films half of the time.

Jon Voight is a douchebag. Fuck him. Warren Beatty could've easily gotten his role in Midnight Cowboy, and he's apparently forgotten that, otherwise he'd be starting in more gritty films like that and not Bratz or Baby Geniuses 2. In fact, I personally think it's method acting. He wants to make a sequel to Midnight Cowboy, so he's doing a lot of whoring just to see what it's really like.

Robin Williams was bound to implode at some point. Realizing that his humor was going away, he has grown far too dependent on his black preacher voice and his John Wayne voice.

Whoopi Goldberg has a niche for safe, friendlier comedies and romances. Ghost wasn't that great of a movie, and I don't understand how it gets so much acclaim.

Halle Berry didn't deserve the Oscar to begin with.

Cuba Gooding Jr., in my humble opinion, didn't even deserve his Oscar. So many people have performances very similar to that and have done it just as well.

[echo_bravo]

This is a serious question.

Has either Halle Berry or Cuba Gooding Jr made a good movie since winning their Oscars??? I cant think of any.

[mrsilkunderwear]

They got the talent, the oscars, they achieved what every actor/actress is trying to get. So they either do this for money or just because they dont give a shit now. hope i made my point clear.

[Servo]

I think the article would've been more helpful if you explained your reasoning behind all of the films you gave...okay so you hated Cage's acting in Con Air, but you don't say why. Same goes for Voight in Transformers. I liked Cage a lot in Con Air, I thought he pulled off the ruthless ranger with a heart of gold pretty well for a summer blockbuster. Voight did what was required of him...can't blame him for a script's weak dialogue (the only problem I can see).

[LordSimen]

Also, Voight in Anacondas was the best part of the movie. His performance was awesome. :D

[Quigles]

Originally posted by Servo
I think the article would've been more helpful if you explained your reasoning behind all of the films you gave...okay so you hated Cage's acting in Con Air, but you don't say why. Same goes for Voight in Transformers. I liked Cage a lot in Con Air, I thought he pulled off the ruthless ranger with a heart of gold pretty well for a summer blockbuster. Voight did what was required of him...can't blame him for a script's weak dialogue (the only problem I can see).
I didn't say I hated Cage's acting in Con Air because it would be unnecessary to do so. My putting it on the list implies either I didn't like him in it, or I thought the movie choice was terrible, just like every other film listed. For me to cycle through and explain my thoughts on every movie/acting choice would be tedious. As long as the reader understands it's just my opinion, it shouldn't be a big deal.

[APzombie]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
This is a serious question.

Has either Halle Berry or Cuba Gooding Jr made a good movie since winning their Oscars??? I cant think of any.

that is a solid question... Can't think of any either.

[fooknasty]

I would have to agree that Halle Berry and Cuba Gooding Jr. didn't deserve there Oscars in the first place, but by far the worst actor/actress on that list is Jon Voight.

He has made a plethora of shit the past 5-10 years it is becoming sad.

They should have a clause written in when you win an Oscar that if you act in shit the next 5 years, you get that gold bitch taken back!!

[APzombie]

CUBA GOODING JR. = 1

ALFRED HITCHCOCK = 0

HALLE BERRY = 1

GARY OLDMAN = 0

Injustice everywhere.

[Frank the Tank]

I've said it a million times

Cage as a oddball/person with illness = awesome

Cage as action hero/romantic = terrible crap

The Fountain not getting a nomination for best score is yet another reason why the oscars suck. Say what you will about the film, but no one can deny the power of that score. They could put it in Bratz and I would be glued to the screen.

[bigred760]

Originally posted by APzombie
CUBA GOODING JR. = 1

ALFRED HITCHCOCK = 0

HALLE BERRY = 1

GARY OLDMAN = 0

Injustice everywhere.

Oh let's not start that. Like I said before, an Oscar does not define a career, it defines ONE good performance. Gooding, Jr. and Berry are perfect examples of that.

Hitchcock doesn't have any Oscars, but he directed a Best Picture winner. Cary Grant, Harrison Ford, Stanley Kubrick (and up until last year, Martin Scorcese) have not won Oscars, but they're considered (or were in Ford's case) some of the best in their field.

Comparisons of who has one and who doesn't is baseless and pointless.

[Tagia_Romero]

It still boggles my mind why Willem Dafoe hasn't won an Oscar yet. Contrary to some of his less superior work, he deserves a win.

[FatSakHead]

I'm with some that Halle Berry never should have won the Oscar to begin with. Her acting in Monster's Ball wasn't terrible but she overacted like a motherfucker. She was practically screaming "GIVE ME THE OSCAR GIVE ME THE OSCAR" throughout the entire movie. Then her fabricated crying at her acceptance speech did it in for me. I don't like Halle Berry as an actress nor as a person, for more reasons than one.

[Servo]

I think the only good thing Cuba Gooding Jr. did after his Oscar win was As Good As It Gets. He was great in that. And he's going to be in American Gangster so who knows...

[FatSakHead]

They forgot to add Angelina Jolie. Tomb Raider would be enough to ruin anyone's career.

[montanetti]

Originally posted by Quigles

Halle Berry

.http://thekratsite.com/blog/oscars/halleberry.jpg

Got the Oscar for:

Monster's Ball

Needs it taken away for:

Catwoman

Perfect Stranger

Gothika

Die Another Day

Swordfish

X-Men: The Last Stand

The immediate year following her Oscar win with "Monster's Ball", Halle Berry won the Razzie for Worst Actress with "Catwoman". She gets major cool points for actually showing up to accept the award (even going as far as to mock her Oscar speech from the year prior), but that doesn't come close to making up for the film itself. It also doesn't make up for the fact that she's just never been that good of an actress, delivering about 1 good performance for every 25 bad. So as long as she chugs out another 25 films as quickly as possibly over the next ten years, there's at least one other gem bound to pop up... right?

Feel free to hold your breath.




Shut the Fuck up!, Hotness beats the academy anytime.

[jaw2929]

Originally posted by FatSakHead
They forgot to add Angelina Jolie. Tomb Raider would be enough to ruin anyone's career.

I love Angelina, and Tomb Raider (both of them) were fantastic action/popcorn flicks. That being said, her performance in Alexander was laughable, and what the FUCK is the deal with her using a pseudo shitty Russian accent in that, and the soon-to-be-released "Beowulf" flicks?

What's she going for? She sounds like a lame attempt at going for a fortune teller's accent or some such horse-shit... It's cringe-worthy.

[darchangel]

Shame on you for even suggesting DeNiro, Ben Kingsley, Nicolas Cage, or Halle Berry.

The rest I could give you...even though I'm very, VERY pained to have to say it about Jeremy Irons.

[Powerslave]

Originally posted by echo_bravo
This is a serious question.

Has either Halle Berry or Cuba Gooding Jr made a good movie since winning their Oscars??? I cant think of any.
You don't like X2?

[cletus66]

I really don't think an oscar should be revoked because of crappy roles after the win. If you look at every acadamey award winner ther are bound to be a few stinkers on their resume. i will admit Cuba Gooding Jr. has taken the crap on a resume to a new level but it does not mean he or any other winner should lose their oscar.

[Quigles]

Originally posted by cletus66
I really don't think an oscar should be revoked because of crappy roles after the win. If you look at every acadamey award winner ther are bound to be a few stinkers on their resume. i will admit Cuba Gooding Jr. has taken the crap on a resume to a new level but it does not mean he or any other winner should lose their oscar.
Here's a comment I made earlier in the thread...

"My rant was more about how baffling it is that these great Academy Award winning actors have ended up starring in such crap. I'm not actually rallying for them to have their Oscars taken away. It was just my way of making a point."

[TeeRay]

Cher.

I shouldn't even have to explain this.

[FatSakHead]

Originally posted by Trail_Blazer
... and Tomb Raider (both of them) were fantastic action/popcorn flicks....

*sticks nose up* Well anyways what were you people saying?

[thedudeman69]

Halle Berry, after winning, had a victory fuck with Billy Bob.

He must've rattled something loose, because she did Gothika the next year.

[BorderEevilIII]

I should create a "OhnooooooyooooouDidnt" on......


Ghost Rider, not thee best of Cage but was a pretty ok movie and so was Con Air. And Halle, I did NOt think much of "Perfect Stranger" but that movie messed me up big time finding out who the culprit was. As for da uddas yeah 3/4 of the films these oscar winners went down hill big time in choices of movie roles they have graced them selves before and winning that golden statue.

[Natty]

Soon as I saw this thread, Berry, Douglas and Voight immediately came to mind, but De Niro should not be on the list:

The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle
Showtime
Analyze That
Hide and Seek
Godsend
Meet the Fockers
15 Minutes

Surely, The Deer Hunter, Taxi Driver, Mean Streets, The Godfather part 2, Raging Bull, The King of Comedy, Cape Fear, Goodfellas and The Untouchables make up for the above films.

Also, I think actors like De Niro suffer from ''yeah, he's good but can he do comedy?'' criticism and so they respond to it, and people don't like it!:(

BTW, I thought Analyse This was actually quite good, and agree with the other nine.

[HoyleHaw]

What the fuck is this?

I was hoping you were gonna revoke actors who didn't deserve their award in the first place. Instead you're bitching about GOOD actors...no lemme rephrase that...

FUCKING LEGENDS most of 'em...

because they made a bad movie.

Lemme let you in on a little secret: everyone makes bad movies. I challenge you to find someone who hasn't. An Oscar is supposed to celebrate actors at the height of their profession. Therefore, after winning, they have nowhere to go but down.

And bad movies can make money too.

I don't usually get angry at posters, but fuck all you. Ben Kingsley especially, he still makes good movies, he only counterbalances them.

And anybody who says Nic Cage didn't deserve his Oscar better WATCH the goddamn movie he won it for!


AHEM! (deep breath)

I apologize if I have offended any of you in the least. Just...had to let that out...no hard feelings...it's just a rant, right? Gotta remember that...it's unjustified but...right...breathe deeply, it doesn't matter...

[Quigles]

HoyleHaw - Way to completely miss the point.

[john_rambo]

Whoever says Con Air and Transformers are bad needs to be castrated... as well as whoever put de niro on this list... but with the whole everyone makes bad movies thing... Al Pacino (who was at one time in both the highest rated movie and the lowest rated movie simultaneously) put it best... "Bad Scripts get paid more money than good scripts."

oh and with robin williams... the guy was crazy before good will hunting... i don't think he deserves to have his taken away... hes a comedian more than a dramatic actor... so i think hes a different story than these others

[The Postmaster General]

I think the only good thing Cuba Gooding Jr. did after his Oscar win was As Good As It Gets. He was great in that. And he's going to be in American Gangster so who knows...


Yeah, I was trying to remember if he was in that or not. His role must have been pretty small, because I remember him being like a co-co-star. It was almost like a cameo, haha.





What about Quentin Tarantino? After winning the Oscar for writing, he turns around and works on It's Pat? I don't care how limited his involvement was - if these 10 listed above deserve the mention, so does that one.

[Briare Rabbit]

Whoever says Con Air and Transformers are bad needs to be castrated... as well as whoever put de niro on this list... but with the whole everyone makes bad movies thing... Al Pacino (who was at one time in both the highest rated movie and the lowest rated movie simultaneously) put it best... "Bad Scripts get paid more money than good scripts."

oh and with robin williams... the guy was crazy before good will hunting... i don't think he deserves to have his taken away... hes a comedian more than a dramatic actor... so i think hes a different story than these others

A) Con Air was a bad movie.

B) When DeNiro's best performance in recent memory is as a cross dressing captain of a flying ship, you know his careers in trouble. Maybe not enough to have his oscar revoked, but unleashing The Good Shepherd, the cinematic abortion that it was on humanity plus making tons of other garbage in the last ten years is enough to question his judgement.

C) Robin Williams is a much better dramatic actor than he is a comic one. Mostly because his brand of comedy is completely awful.

[john_rambo]

1. Con Air is awesome

2. Of course thats the most recent memory of him... its the last movie he was in it came out like 2 months ago

3. Robin Williams may be a better dramatic actor... but all I am saying is in the end he is more of a comedian. thats where he got his start and he is not gonna leave it.

[Briare Rabbit]

Let me rephrase that and say that Stardust is the only thing Deniro's done of real quality since Heat. His films are either cheesy to the absolute extreme or about as exciting as watching paint dry. Maybe a bit of both.

And I didn't really like Heat all that much either.

[ilovemovies]

Okay, I won't mention the movies that De Niro has done that got bad reviews. But what about Ronin? I thought that was fantastic. Not to mention how fantastic The Good Shepherd was. Of coarse his role in that isn't that big but he directed it and he was still very good in it.

Copland? Marvin's Room? Sleepers? Wag the Dog? Jackie Brown?


I also thought City by the Sea was great and he gave one of his best performances in it. And I really enjoyed 15 Minutes, Men of Honor, The Score and Analyze This.


I know 15 Minutes and Men of Honor and City by the Sea for some reason recieved mixed reaction. But all of the others I mentioned was well liked by critics and audiences.

[Briare Rabbit]

I never saw Wag the Dog or Jackie Brown, but most of those other films were pretty fuckin rancid.

Especially The Good Shepherd. I don't know how you can say that movie was fantastic, as that movie was god awful. It was about as exciting as watching paint dry and everybody in it was TERRIBLE. It back basically Matt Damon looks bored, Jolie overacts out the ass and the rest all turn in favors for DeNiro.

[The Postmaster General]

I think you guys are straying from Quigles point. It's not that these people are incapable of giving another good performance, but that they should be penalized for how bad some of their work has been since getting the Oscar.

DeNiro has done Goodfellas, Awakenings, Bronx Tale, Mad Dog & Glory, Brazil, Midnight Run, Untouchables, Angel Heart... Man, he was mutherfucking Satan, man...

I mean, my point is that it's undoubtable he's put in several good roles since winning his Oscar. Quigles is just saying shame on him for being in fucking Rocky & Bullwinkle.

As for getting in this argument about what he's done good since Heat - I immediately thought of Wag The Dog, for starters. He's done lots of stuff that people have really liked, though i can only vouch for Wag The Dog - I loved that character. Jackie Brown was solid too, but I don't remember enough, except that's one of the few roles I remember with him being sort of out of control, but not like a Jimmy Conway way, I mean like "I want to pet the bunnies."

[Quigles]

*hugs BubbaStrangelove*

[Cop No. 633]

3. Robin Williams may be a better dramatic actor... but all I am saying is in the end he is more of a comedian. thats where he got his start and he is not gonna leave it.

Robin Williams was a hack comedian of the worst kind. He was a joke thief. He would steal everybody's material. I'm not talking about jokes that have been around since the 50's... I mean jokes comedians worked hard to craft and make funny... and this cunt just goes and rips it off. I hate Williams for that. He sucked as a comedian. He had to overcompensate for his lack of jokes by being extremely energetic (ala Bane Cook) and doing his "Black" voice which I always hated and never found funny. I hope he never returns to the medium which he pissed on and then used to get fame. But then again, Americans tend to pick the easiest comedians as their favorites... like they do their films and music.

Anyway, back to topic....

[The Postmaster General]

This is the first I've heard of Williams being a joke thief. Some facts would be nice.

[randychico]

Kevin Costner got one directing... he should give back his oscar for his acting and directing after that :p

[TheJadedGamer]

Kevin Costner got one directing... he should give back his oscar for his acting and directing after that :p

He redeemed himself with Mr. Brooks.

[Lost in Space]

we could just assassinate them

[randychico]

we could just assassinate them You know... that's not a bad idea! :rolleyes: