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bodian26
09-04-2007, 08:41 PM
The main difference between the Halloween: Workprint and the Halloween: Theatrical is Michael's conscious decisions or lack thereof.

1. In the workprint, Michael tells his mom calmly, "It's over." In the theatre version, this line is omitted, thus giving Michael the darker edge and not allowing him to be so rational.

2. In the workprint, the nurse comments on how Laurie is a cute baby and could not possibly be related to Michael. Michael then slowly takes his fork and kills her.
In the theatre version, the nurse only makes the comment that Laurie is a cute baby, before it cuts away to Dr. Loomis and Michael's mom, and then immediately cuts back when Michael stabs the nurse, thereby showing irrationality on Michael's part.

3. In the workprint, Dr. Loomis takes Michael outdoors exclaiming that it was difficult to get a release to allow him outside and Michael keeps saying he needs to "get out of here." Michael then says, "I have nothing more to say," when Dr. Loomis says he can not do anything about helping Michael in that regard. Michael does not say a word for the rest of the film.
In the theatre version, that scene is replaced with an outdoor scene between Michael and his mom taking a stroll outside where Michael is in good spirts, then the next scene shows Michael no longer talking.
The workprint shows Michael making a conscious choice not to talk anymore.
The theatre version shows Michael as being irrational in his thoughts and actions.

4. The ending in the workprint shows Michael listening to Dr. Loomis and Laurie and setting Laurie free and dropping the knife, as if Dr. Loomis finally was able to break through to him.
The ending in the theatre version shows Michael irrationally grabbing Dr. Loomis and possibly killing him before hunting down Laurie in the house.
Again, the workprint shows Michael thinking and making a conscious decision and the theatre version shows him as a no holds barred monster.

5. In the workprint, Danny Trejo is nice to Michael in the hospital and later on retires and presumbly has a nice life.
In the theatre version, Michael kills him too, as well as most of the hospital staff. The theatre version of Michael does not care who is nice or mean to him when he breaks out, all are disposible.
The workprint version of Michael has a darkened soul.

Obviously there are many small details ommited and added to each of the versions and the perfect Rob Zombie Halloween would be a blending of them, so that both the rational and the irrational sides of Michael Myers can both end and meet.
Only in that occupied space can this film truly be deemed a masterpiece of contemporary horror.

Until then, the people who love it will love it and the others who hate it will hate it, but what this film could truly be is most intriguing (to me anyways).

Cameron Cloutier
www.bodianstfilms.com

yorrick brown
09-04-2007, 10:01 PM
tough one.

i didn`t like what happened to danny trejo character but then again it shows michael not having any remorse.

didn`t like what happened to loomis.

but i did love the finished films ending .that scream was cool.workprint ending was rather blah

XCoRyX
09-04-2007, 10:54 PM
Both sucked equally, but I enjoyed the workprint better for some reason. I think it was the ending...because besides that its virtually identical.

By the way, with the poster - does anybody else see Adrienne Barbeau? What the fuck happened to her appearance?

Inglorious
09-05-2007, 02:31 AM
I really really liked the workprint. I cannot go see Halloween until next payday. Thats about two weeks from now.

But Im pretty sure Ill still prefer the workprint over theatrical. So till DVD release its probably what Ill stick to.

The_Driller_Killer
09-05-2007, 02:40 AM
Since the workprint sucked harder than George Michael in a public mens' room, I didn't even bother with the theatrical version. Like I'd give Rob Zombie a single red cent...

MisterTwister
09-05-2007, 02:45 AM
I watched pieces of the workprint and I really don't see the big deal about the ending. It's rather ho-hum. The theatrical ending is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.

XCoRyX
09-05-2007, 05:07 AM
Definetly no big deal in anything with either version,just preferred the workprint over theatricals ending.

Nightscare
09-10-2007, 03:41 PM
I haven't had a chance to see the theatrical version yet, but from what the op says, it seems they try to take the humanity out of Michael. That doesn't make any sense to me.
In the work print, they gave Michael a little humanity. Now, personally, I didn't really care for the decision to do this but it was different from the original and worth seeing at least once as such. If they took the humanity out, then showing Michael as a child is an arbitrary addition and it loses the only thing making it intriguing and just becomes another "not as good as the original" remake.
I also like the ending of the workprint because it closes the story. If they take that out, then they leave the door open for more of hollywood's newest bad habit; The remake sequel.
Ofcourse, I'll have to actually see the theatrical version before I can fully formulate this opinion.

jaw2929
09-11-2007, 03:28 PM
Theatre version ALL THE WAY! I've seen 'em both, and the theatre version is leaps and bounds better than the workprint. The ending and the "rape scene" in the WP version are really pointless and shitty.... So I'm glad Zombie released the theatre version to the masses (even if he was under studio pressure to do so)...

Derrida
09-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Nope, the workprint ending is WAY BETTER than the theatrical version. That scream at the end of the theatrical was so lame (and cheap to boot).

LordSimen
09-11-2007, 05:18 PM
Workprint is better than theatrical. Personally I think a mix of the two would be the best cut.

MadmanMARZ
09-12-2007, 03:47 PM
I liked the workprint (except the rape/escape scene)
The ending was awsome with Loomis standing over Michael and we hear their first monolog from their first session then the camera zooms out. It was a nice ending to Zombies version and I liked how they portraited Michael as young and how he slowly went downward the spiral to become what he became.
Showing some emotions and letting Laurie go in the end to be gunned down by the police was a nice touch. Zombies Halloween was much different (workprint) than Carpenters awsome film and that made me like it even better than if it had been a straight ripp from Carpenters movie.
To Have Loomis killed and have that kind of ending the theatrical version had , was an insult and so typical every other horror movie in the late (TCM:beginning, Hills have eyes etc)
Sorry for Zombie that he didnīt stuck to his first version and made the studio or testaudience (as always) fuck up his movie...
They should stop preview their movies and go for thei gut-feeling instead of listening to the "teenaudience" that donīt know shit about movies!!!!!!!!!!!!

sarah1980
09-12-2007, 06:54 PM
where is everyone finding the workprint??

zombievictim
09-12-2007, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by sarah1980
where is everyone finding the workprint??

Google video.

ParileseMonster
09-13-2007, 01:45 PM
I feel you can't judge shit from a workprint. Also watching a damn workprint on a computer screen with tiny ass speakers takes away from the theatre experience so I am not going to waste my time.

Last night I watch Rob Zombies Halloween and I got what I was going to watch, Rob Zombies Halloween.
I got what I expected from watching his other films. I got his own brand of aggressiveness and he totally put his own special stamp on it.

Overall I liked it. It did not piss me off, I did not feel cheated. I did not feel the original was raped or Carpenter was dissed.
I like both Halloween's. Carpenter and Zombies and depending on my mood and style of the day I will choose which film to watch accordingly.

The pacing was good for the most part but there were a few scenes that made me feel rushed and I have my own personal reasons for not liking rush jobs.

The Old age make up sucked and I blame High Definition for that.

I can not stand the song "Love Hurts".

All these cut scenes will be on the DVD. I liked the final product, I like how it ended this will be open for debate between my husband and I later because he will be getting this DVD. He liked it.

My work paid for the passes, my slate is clean. :D

Dolf
09-13-2007, 02:10 PM
Lord and Twister,

Weren't you two adamantly against people downloading the workprint? I recall some pretty harsh statements you both made on the Upcoming Movies threads.