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Bulldog07
09-08-2007, 04:49 PM
I just watched the movie Blade and I have a general question regarding vampires...

When a vampire bites, does that bite ALWAYS turn the victim into a vampire? In Blade, Frost (Stephen Dorff) bites a guy and pushes him into some water, and the guy apparently dies. But the only way to become a vampire is to be born one or to be turned into one via a bite.

So when does a vampire's bite kill and when does it turn its victim into another vampire? Or do I have this all mixed up?

Kikabi
09-08-2007, 05:53 PM
It seems like most Vampire movies have their own rules about this sort of thing.

For instance, in Interview with a Vampire, the vampire bites his victim, then makes the victim drink the vampire's blood in order to turn him into a vampire. Without that, a mere bite doesn't do anything. There are other movies that uses this technique - I can't think of the titles right now. I haven't seen Blade in a long time - maybe that movie follows the same rule.

But in other Vampire movies, most of them, a bite turns the victim into a vampire, like John Carpenter's Vampire. Some follow the Dracula rule in that the victim literally dies from from the bite then resurrects as a vampire.

Hope that helps.

JJFlamingo
09-08-2007, 07:10 PM
As far as Blade goes, yes, a bite will turn you into a vampire, but with Frost and that character, he practically tore HALF HIS THROAT OUT, meaning he didn't intend to turn him, he wanted him to die a horrible death because he fucked up(leading Blade to Pearl The Record Keeper). I guess the intensity of the bite determines if the vampire wants to turn you or merely kill you. Hope that helps...:D

EVILxxx
09-08-2007, 08:00 PM
Usually the victim has to drink the blood of a vampire before they turn after being bitten. If they don't more often than not they will die from the bite.

Inglorious
09-08-2007, 08:47 PM
I have always been confused about the rules too. But eventually I came to the conclusion its always different, and alot of the rules in certain movies dont make sense anyway.

So I guess I gave up on trying to figure it out.

X-Nightcrawler
09-08-2007, 09:45 PM
Vampire rules obviously aren't set in stone, and that's why movies need to be more creative. It's always the same crap but with some minor alteration so they can have the classic line.

"Forget all you know about vampires from books and movies; crosses? Garlic? That doesn't work against the real deal."

There's only one rule.

1. The Lame Axiom:
"If a vampire bites you during your teenage years, you become a loud, obnoxious, version of your previous self plus a shit-eating grin."

miceland1
09-09-2007, 12:26 AM
There is one truism in Vampire movies and fiction. The author has made some changes to the rules from the movies that precede it.

In some of the older Vamp movies the vampirization takes several visits from Dracula or other vamp to do the trick. The victim gets sicker and paler until they (appear to) die.

Its different every time though.

Kikabi
09-09-2007, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Vampire rules obviously aren't set in stone, and that's why movies need to be more creative. It's always the same crap but with some minor alteration so they can have the classic line.

"Forget all you know about vampires from books and movies; crosses? Garlic? That doesn't work against the real deal."

Right, the bad is that they have to stop and EXPLAIN the rules so the audience understands it "oh in this movie, crosses don't work." "ah, in this one, crosses do work. Unlike, say Werewolf movies when you get bit, the next full moon, you're gonna get very hairy and break your nail-clippers trying to trim back your claws. No explanations necessary.

There's only one rule.

1. The Lame Axiom:
"If a vampire bites you during your teenage years, you become a loud, obnoxious, version of your previous self plus a shit-eating grin."

Lost Boys! Best, kick-ass example of this Axiom.

X-Nightcrawler
09-09-2007, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by Kikabi
Right, the bad is that they have to stop and EXPLAIN the rules so the audience understands it "oh in this movie, crosses don't work." "ah, in this one, crosses do work. Unlike, say Werewolf movies when you get bit, the next full moon, you're gonna get very hairy and break your nail-clippers trying to trim back your claws. No explanations necessary. Just one of the many reasons why werewolves >>>> vampires.

Originally posted by Kikabi

Lost Boys! Best, kick-ass example of this Axiom. *cough*EvilEd*cough*

Kikabi
09-09-2007, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by X-Nightcrawler
Just one of the many reasons why werewolves >>>> vampires.

Ha! You wish. Vampires don't have flea and tick problems, for one thing, and have to pick gristle out of their teeth. They also don't wake up in the morning naked, in the middle of some park somewhere having no clue about where they are and what they did during the night. Only werewolves and alcoholics have that unique morning-after fear of "What the hell did I do last night?!?"

Joking aside, I do wish we'd get more good werewolf movies. Dog Soldiers rocked!

Kings-Rook1
09-10-2007, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Kikabi
They also don't wake up in the morning naked, in the middle of some park somewhere having no clue about where they are and what they did during the night.

I hate it when that happens.