Friday The 13th Remake - Does Anyone Really Care?

[Kevin Lockard]

When I first heard that there was a remake in planning to be made of the original Friday The 13th (not the original film itself really, just a "re-telling" of the whole concept starting over from the very beginning, except beginning with Jason), I was threwback from it and turned off completely, and could not agree more with What's His Name's letter (the guy that used to run fridaythe13thfilms.com) to New Line condemning the idea of such a thing ever being made, not as a rude rant or anything, but in a very articulated and well said, well mannered form.

However, several months later, and now haven't heard that the film is in final developments before getting made, I honestly have to respond to my emotions and ask others the question - Do You Really Care?

I am not asking the oh-so-obvious question of whether or not you care about the film remaking / retelling the origin of one of your most beloved horror villians so that you can condemn it for doing so, I am asking does it really even matter to you anymore so long as we get a good, if not great, Jason film shot out that is not only good or great in terms of deaths and tits, but in terms of story, character, overall content, etc.?

I can honestly say that I am actually no longer upset by the idea of this film getting made, in fact, I am legitmately interested, and I think a lot of fans, hardcore or casual, feel the same way. The fact is, as far as I'm concerned, the continuity on these films is fucked. And for me, it's come to a point where so long as they make a great Jason movie again, then I'm pleased.

What do you think?

(Just for the record, I think this is a good time to start with getting rid of the whole "virgin heroine" thingy. In fact, even show the virgin heroine" (there no doubt will be one, minus the virgin part in this context) fucking her brains out. Though Sean Cunningham cleared up the fact that Friday The 13th was never supposed to be a morality tale against "sex, drugs, etc.", many still embrace those old cliches, and we'd be better off leaving them behind, and embracing the old Giallo way of saying that it doesn't matter who you are, what you are, where you are, who you're having sex with, etc., if you're in a killer's prescence, your life is in danger. Besides, something like sexuality makes up such a part of the human psyche that it is a complete non-sequitor to suggest, even in the context of a slasher film or villian, that doing the very thing needed for our existence is the very thing that can get you wiped from existence. Ummm... yeah.)

[!MorganOnyx!]

If the remake can honour the original in the way the TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE remake honoured HOOPER'S classic, I'll be loving it.

I've never been against remakes. In fact in some ways I've always been for them because I have seen evidence that a remake can at least equal the original if not better it.

[JJFlamingo]

bad idea

[Kevin Lockard]

The best remake in my opinion (of a horror film, at least) still remains as the 1990 Night Of The Living Dead.

[!MorganOnyx!]

Two out and out winners where the remake bettered the original:

THE HILLS HAVE EYES
THE AMITYVILLE HORROR

[Dream Slasher]

i'm all for this. I think if they take it back to the original premise and are not in space or manhattan (even though i kinda liked VIII), this will be great. TCM is the best remake so far, but if they do this right, i could definetly see this taking the crown.

Not so sure about the Freddy remake though

[Mr.HyDe807]

It is fustrating that they are redoing something already? yep.

But.....ill probably see this, just for the fact that i grew up with the franchise, the same reason i saw Rob Zombie's Halloween.

[Henry Lee Lucas]

Two out and out winners where the remake bettered the original:

THE HILLS HAVE EYES
THE AMITYVILLE HORROR
Yea Ill challenge that.

Im against remakes when its a studio lookin for money, hires a bunch of cheap help, and tells them to remake a classic so they can score the big bucks. that shits bull, but when its someone like john carpenter, being offered to direct a movie that he grew up watching, thats different.

I think this is a bad idea, itll be like the halloween remake and the inevitable nightmare one. Hardcore, brutal violence, as realistic and hopeless as possible, which sucks. I want Jason at crystal lake killing in overthetop creative ways.

You think the remake will have the mother plot? i doubt it, wont score them as much money.

[MisterTwister]

THIS
IS
NOT
A
REMAKE.

A source told Shock Till you drop MONTHS AGO that this isn't a remake and come on, does it sound like one? No.

I won't get excited for the film until I know more about it.

[MisterTwister]

[QUOTE=Henry Lee Lucas;2707865]Yea Ill challenge that.

I want Jason at crystal lake killing in overthetop creative ways.

QUOTE]


That's what the film is about. It was announced from the very beginning it would be about Jason, hockey mask and all, killing people at camp crystal lake.

[LordSimen]

I honestly don't see how a remake is any more damaging than the millions of Friday sequels which basically follow the same damn formula the remake is following.

[clepto]

I definately care because Jason is a very important charictor in horror history and I want to see what direction they decide to go with it, I mean some of the things im hearing arnt all horrible ideas, and to tell you the truth the fist F13 and the 2nd kind of always paled in comparison to 3 and 4 in my eyes and could possibly use some jazzin up, and hell evan if its horrible it will probally make some bank for the genre and thats always a good thing cuz then well see more horror on the bigscreen, plus at the end of the day if it sucks you can always pop in your favorite classic F13 movie and enjoy

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

This will be the same as TCM'04,more realistic,an irritating lead(I HATE jessica biel),and no creative kills whatsoever.The Jason should be Hodder,or atleast the peep from HHE1,not the guy from hills have eyes 2,b/c if I know anything about hills have eyes 2,it's that the mutants suck hard.:mad:

[teenkiller]

I've recently lost faith with the mega franchises of the 80's. I don't expect them to ever be done right again but I think of the Big Three F13 has the best chance so far. Now I prefer to spend my time thinking of the lesser known projects coming out. FREDDY, JASON, and Michael should never be remade and I don't care what STYD reported about the new F13 film not being a remake. I'll wait till later to know for sure because I highly doubt Michael Bay and company are working on FRIDAY the 13th XI (or XII depending on how you look at it). Maybe it's supposed to be another film that takes place between 2-4. Like I said though I'll wait to know for sure.

It would have been cool to see Michael Bailey Smith take over the role of JASON. I thought he played one of the best villains ever in HHE '06. Derek Mears may also make for a good JASON but all I know is that I hated HHE 2 and Cursed so he hasn't really done anything yet that I can say anything positive about.

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[PapaJupe2k]

(Just for the record, I think this is a good time to start with getting rid of the whole "virgin heroine" thingy. In fact, even show the virgin heroine" (there no doubt will be one, minus the virgin part in this context) fucking her brains out. Though Sean Cunningham cleared up the fact that Friday The 13th was never supposed to be a morality tale against "sex, drugs, etc.", many still embrace those old cliches, and we'd be better off leaving them behind, and embracing the old Giallo way of saying that it doesn't matter who you are, what you are, where you are, who you're having sex with, etc., if you're in a killer's prescence, your life is in danger. Besides, something like sexuality makes up such a part of the human psyche that it is a complete non-sequitor to suggest, even in the context of a slasher film or villian, that doing the very thing needed for our existence is the very thing that can get you wiped from existence. Ummm... yeah.)[/QUOTE]

In my interpretation I think the Friday the 13th series went pretty obviously against this notion from the beginning. Alice smoked reefer in the original, I'm thinking she wouldn't have been averse to a roll in the hay with some of those hip male counselors.:D Ginny went out and got plastered at the bar in pt. 2. Meghan was hot on Tommy's jock in pt. 6. Interesting point here, but i think this antiquated notion was wiped out early on in this series, which makes it cool to watch today, even 20 something years later.

As for the original question of a remake, I would probably watch it... but be disappointed.

[Shockwave]

The best remake in my opinion (of a horror film, at least) still remains as the 1990 Night Of The Living Dead.

While not THE best, its one of my absolute favorites that crushes the original to me.


Im really looking forward to this. Its not like the original FRIDAY was that good or a movie anyway.

I love the JASON films, but its not like the series is high art or anything.

Just gimmie a movie with Jason going nuts on some tweens and ill be happy. Thats all the series ever was.

[Shockwave]

Two out and out winners where the remake bettered the original:

THE HILLS HAVE EYES
THE AMITYVILLE HORROR


Also WILLARD.

[TheJadedGamer]

Me. I care.

[ERIN_LoJ]

*Yawn* No, all remake news has made me jaded. I just don't give a fuck anymore.

[KillerKlown]

I wish they would give it up and stop bastardising the classics.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I wish they would give it up and stop bastardising the classics.

If only you were the president of platinum dunes.If only,:D

[Henry Lee Lucas]

after reading the new synopsis, im looking forward to this. Ill treat it as a sequel ofcourse.

my weakness for bad slashers is really getting to me.

[poguesfan]

I'm against the remake, however I know my dumbass will still probably end up going to see it anyway. I just can't say no to horror. Will it suck, most likely yes, but I'm still rather curious on how the filmmakers might approach the material, even though Michael Bay (god does his movies ever fucking suck) is attached to the project.

[Mongo]

ive avoided just about everything relating to this remake.not because im against it.i just want to be suprised.id like to see new life brought into something thats been made into a joke inside and outside of the horror world.
im going to try and look at this movie like its the original.

[weezercoke]

I look at these "remakes" as Robin Hood movies. Everybody knows a story Of Robin Hood stealing from the rich and giving to the poor(by the way wasn't in the orginal Robin Hood ballads). Each movie, tv show, book of Robin Hood is not a remake nor sequel. But a stand alone work of a popular character (hey jason wasn't scared of water in the other movies but most people didn't let it bother them in FVJ).

As long as the movie is a good Friday the 13th movie you should be happy.

[poopontheshoes7]

The thing is, this really isnt a remake. Its got Jason in it, and judging by what we've heard it'll be like the first 4 Friday flicks combined. The notion of remaking Friday the 13th doesnt bother as much as say Nightmare On Elm Street(Fuck THAT!) because they really are the same movie over and over again and if they can make Jason scary again like he was in the part 2-4 than I'll be a happy camper (no pun intended).

[Ratlehed]

I met Derek Mears, the guy that is playing Jason, and he was a really cool guy. So I'll probably check it out just because of that. I hope its good. I doubt I'll enjoy as much as some of the Friday sequels though. They have thier own style.

I'd much rather see the Jason franchise continue though. I'd like to see a movie that bridges FvsJ and JX.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Ha!Wouldn't that be nice.(Another FVJ possibly tying in w/t JX.)Yet instead we get two of the most beloved Horror franchises put in the grave.This genre is really starting to depress me,A LOT.

[Yggdrasil_Mjötv]

Overall in a way im looking foreword to seeing how the film will turn out. I'm never a big fan of remakes but the fact that is Jason Vorhees stands alone, just recently I watch Jason X (after refusing for many years to see it) and although it wasn't great, it was probabaly ths most entertainment I recieved in recent slasher films. I'll pretty much go into the theater with an open mind and come out of it with a conclusion.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

I'm actually pretty excited for this film. Initially, I was disappointed and surprised. Why would New Line want to restart the franchise after Freddy vs. Jason was a hit and proved that there's still a strong fanbase? But with everything involved: the writers of FvJ, Platinum Dunes who did a bang up job with the TCM remake, the tone of the first four films--I just can't help but be excited for it. From the photos and videos we've seen, this is bound to make Jason scary again.

But they have to...HAVE TO...keep Harry Manfredini's brilliant score. No "ki ki ki", no Jason.

[robk]

Although I don't hold the original Friday as highly as the original versions of Texas Chainsaw Massacre & Halloween, I still plan to see it because Jason's mum is going to be played by Nana Vistor, who I've always known & loved as Kira Nerys on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

[pablo_super1!]

I seen the trailer and I was extremely happy when it finished. I think it looks really great. I think the original is ok, but it's not as great as many fans make it out to be. Sure it brought Slasher films to a new level, but it still was not that great. I care about this remake, and hope it'll turn out as great as it looks.

[Cru Jones]

I'm looking forward to this, but I'm keeping my expectations in check. I think it will be good for what it is: A more polished, slicker version of the first four, but with few added things. I really like the take on Jason in this movie, if you've read the interviews, and test screening reviews.

[LordSimen]

Also WILLARD.

Am I the only one who would like to see the original, R rated cut of Willard? I remember watching the making of on that movie and seeing how after the first screening the studio made them cut it down to PG-13.

[Soulburn420]

No Simen, you are not the only one. Willard scared the crap outta me as a kid. Funny thing was that when I first saw it, I had a pet rat and his cage was in my room. Talk about having trouble sleeping at night!

[athf1980]

I'm fine with it because I really did not care for the original to much. plus I have never seen an Friday the 13th in the theater.

I'm not counting Freddy vs. Jason as a friday the 13th movie.

[Kevin Lockard]

I forgot I ever made this thread lololol....

In any case, looking back, I don't quite understand why I ever opposed the idea even before making this thread. The original Friday films were not exactly quality pieces of filmmaking, and were never really intended to be. They were/are cheesy horror/slasher films. Thus, if someone is giving Jason a revamp, and getting him away from the last few horrible sequels (not counting Jason Goes To Hell, which is underrated, in my view), then yes, I'm all for it.

[EZM22]

I'd see this just out of curiosity... but I have to wonder, why a remake? Why not just do another sequel to the Friday series altogether? They're pretty much all the same thing (Jason kills dumb teens).

[zombievictim]

I'd see this just out of curiosity... but I have to wonder, why a remake? Why not just do another sequel to the Friday series altogether? They're pretty much all the same thing (Jason kills dumb teens).

Just go see it. It practically is a sequel.

[Henry Lee Lucas]

I'd see this just out of curiosity... but I have to wonder, why a remake? Why not just do another sequel to the Friday series altogether? They're pretty much all the same thing (Jason kills dumb teens).

it sells better

[URSA MAJOR]

Whats so wrong with a friday the 13 remake. People love the old ones and most of them are dumb, but still awsome. To remake it is kinda the only way to keep jason in our kids future.

Come on how cool did you feel when you went to a friends house to watch jason kill some twins.:D

[MistAh BlistAh]

Whats so wrong with a friday the 13 remake. People love the old ones and most of them are dumb, but still awsome. To remake it is kinda the only way to keep jason in our kids future.



I wouldn't even call it a remake, feels much more like a sequel because, well, it pretty much is, this is how a REBOOT should be done.

I love the entire series (for the most part) but Friday the 13th (2009) is much better then Friday the 13th (1980), in my opinion of course :D.

[Sad man]

The original kicks the remake's ass. The remake failed to be what every other Friday flick was: FUN.

[IamNoOne666]

I liked the remake. I its the best Friday movie since part 6. And I agree with the people on here who said I'm kind of glad they brought it back to the orginal formula. It was a nice shot in the arm that the franchise needed.

[sarah1980]

hey does anyone know if there's a score soundtrack coming out soon

i hope so i really like the score to this film

[AndrewB40]

I kinda like alot of the remakes along with the original versions.

In reality 99% of the book, movies, tv shows and everything is usually a remake or reboot of something.

The dracula story has been made remade into 100's of versions over the years, 1931 Old creepy looking bela legosi, 2009...metrosexual teenage boy vampires in twighlight.

I do think some remakes try to pay too much tribute at times to past films and usually screw it up.

I did like this New Friday the 13th and found it kinda scary which is rarew for me today. The plot set up was a bit all over the place but its a friday the 13th mvie, I am just there to be mindlessly entertained.

[jtwist78]

I can see your point in one sense as in most of the general ideas are not original anymore (the maniac at camp slasher flick has been done to death!) but you can't call Twilight a direct remake/reboot of Dracula.

I think Friday the 13th suffered as a remake/reboot because it was unnecessary. Plus I hated the way they changed the Jason character. For example, in the original series he's like a wild animal operating on instinct and a strong sense of revenge. In the remake he's a survivalist that has contructed an underground bunker with an intricate lighting system. Another example, in the original series he was a killing machine that showed little/no emotion when it came to people that came into his path. In the remake he keeps a character alive for an extended period as a hostage....ughhh!

Plus the remake was a tad light on the gore compared to other recent remakes - and give me some creative kills, it is the trademark of the series!!!!!

/rant

[Donnie_Darko]

Tis was teh suk. Marcus did such a great job with the TCM remake, and just dropped the ball with this. Actually, he didn't as much drop the ball, as he did, take the ball he used for TCM, and exchange Leatherface for Jason.

The 2 biggest problem with this, and I get for a remake/reboot, you can expect some change, but not for an iconic character like this, were:

1. Jason doesn't take hostages
2. JASON DOESN'T RUN! :mad:

Not enough gore (unless the "uncut" version I saw wasn't actually uncut), and the characters were absolutely horrible. Stereotypes just rammed down our throats... guh!

The only real positive was Julianna Guill, and her wonderfully spectacular breastsisis... even tho gratuitous nudity annoys me... she was just too fine to complain about.

[SplatterMaster5]

Am I the only one who likes running Jason better than slow Jason? And I don't mean just in the remake (which I haven't even seen yet), but in parts 2-4 he was also running. Don't get me wrong, I like zombie Jason but he just works so much better in my eyes when he's more human.

As for the hostage thing, it sounds ridiculous..but I'll have to check the movie out some time soon, I'm getting the craving for some Friday The 13th flicks lately.

[Lat er al]

I love the remake, it is one my favorites in the series.

Friday the 13th is good for watching teens get killed in over the top violent ways, not for plot. The remake had great kill scenes, a lot of them, and they were done with 100x better special effects which was a nice bonus for me. Sure it strays away from a couple of Jason's traditional methods and what-not, but for me it was really fun to watch.