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pablo_super1!
10-03-2007, 05:15 PM
I haven't heard any news on Final destination 4 But I loved part 1. I don't see what all the fuss about final destination 2 I liked it. Sure Final destination 3 was Mediocre and no way measured up to the twist and originality to the slasher genre Like Part 1 did but I still liked it. Yay for me because I really like this series and would like to see it continue.

and my favorite death scenes from all 3 SPOILERS

Final Destination 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GJ-IilibkY)

Final Destination 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666SLqwuaGE)

Final Destination 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE5HE3-zayU)

Dragula
10-03-2007, 06:54 PM
To tell you the truth, I'm not really sure. The first Final Destination was great. The second was pretty good. And the third one was good. I don't know if I'll either see it when it's in theaters or rent it on DVD.

X-Nightcrawler
10-03-2007, 08:45 PM
I don't care, I'm not interested. FD3 showed me what the makers of this series are interested in doing now, and I hate it. So they can poop off 12 more FDs like that, they'll all suck, but they'll probably make money. I don't give one.

yorrick brown
10-03-2007, 09:18 PM
bugger i thought they were gonna make one.

but after how well the last one did ,yip its only a matter off time.

only problem is glen morgan and james wong had a falling out over 'black xmas'.so i`m yay and nay depends who`s doing part 4.

Scarfather
10-03-2007, 09:28 PM
You'd think that after making three agonizingly terrible movies, they'd give up and stop harassing us with their shitty films.

shoe1985
10-03-2007, 09:46 PM
You'd think that after making three agonizingly terrible movies, they'd give up and stop harassing us with their shitty films.

Similar to the Fast and the Furious 4 thread. These movies have a niche audience, and they make money. I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel. I enjoyed the first two, the third one was crap.

starcat
10-03-2007, 10:13 PM
the first two were awesome... the third was decent, but it should have been better, i mean an amusement park had so many possibilities

gyro_44
10-03-2007, 10:18 PM
Three should be plenty. I didn't get the same sick thrill out of the third than I did with the second.

The Saw franchise, however, will probably make it to part six.

MidnightAngel
10-03-2007, 10:39 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!:mad:

JJFlamingo
10-03-2007, 11:08 PM
they should make it...

Duke Nukem
10-03-2007, 11:22 PM
Totally, yay. All three are solid movies that tried something different with the genre and worked big time in my book. A lot of people seem to only "like" the first two and say the third one was only "mediocre." I find that insulting. I don't see how you can start any of these movies and not end up enjoying all them on a close-to-equal level. The third one did not lack any particular qualities the first two had. It was right up there with 1 and 2.

It's funny, before FD2, I was at a amusemark park and thought, "they gotta set the next FD on a rollercoaster!" Of course they did, but after the second one. Personally, I think a lot of people stacked their expectations too high on the rollercoaster of death. There really only is so much you can do with a rollercoaster. For what its worth, it was fantastically done and could been a whole lot worse a sequence.

As for 4, if they set up a good story again (with possible connections to the previous victims, etc.) and figure out another great setting for a disaster, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I can also live with it existing as only a trilogy if none of that works out.

smok3h
10-04-2007, 01:39 AM
The first one was amazing, simple story, original, creepy. i dug it.

The 2nd one was ok.. the death scenes were all original, alot of tense moments (the dentist scene) but then they had to go and fuck it up by making it too complicated with that whole plot about the baby.

The 3rd one. Sucked ass. Ryan Merriman, get rid of him.

would I see a 4th... I'd probably rent it on DVD, not in the theater though.

Cronos
10-04-2007, 04:22 AM
While I rather enjoyed the third film in places they should have left it with only the first film, the second one was just terrible.

ilovemovies
10-04-2007, 04:42 AM
I liked the first one and second one alot. The third one was so-so.

As for a 4th one? I don't know. I'll see it but that's because I'll see anything even if it looks like crap.

XCoRyX
10-04-2007, 09:51 AM
Leave it be. (Yeah,right). I've enjoyed all three (third one was mediocre), so lets leave it as a fun trilogy.

X-Nightcrawler
10-04-2007, 11:44 AM
Totally, yay. All three are solid movies that tried something different with the genre and worked big time in my book. A lot of people seem to only "like" the first two and say the third one was only "mediocre." I find that insulting. I don't see how you can start any of these movies and not end up enjoying all them on a close-to-equal level. The third one did not lack any particular qualities the first two had. It was right up there with 1 and 2.Do I ever disagree. Part 1 had a shitload of atmosphere, it had actual characters, it had a subtle sense of humor, wonderful performances and deaths that freak you out without being vulgarly grotesque (Terry's death is still the most intense of the entire series). It also had a cohesive and original plot and ginmick.

Part 2 had a wonderful cast of characters with all the chemistry in the world and a dark sense of humor 3 could only wish for. It also had one of the most intense action scenes in horror. Ever. The deaths were off the wall but still believable and still made sense. It also moved the plot forward and expanded on the universe and the rules the first one had set (even if the plotholes are obvious).

Part 3 didn't have a plot, didn't bother to think of anything new to add to the series. It made absolutely no sense (uh . . . why are they dying in the order they were sitting on the fucking ride? Oh, that's the order they would've died. Big coincidence, ya smart writers) and had the annoying sort of plotholes where the movie knows it makes no sense and doesn't give a shit ("Wendy! I went online to Alex Browning's blog and read all the rules the audience needs to know!"). Oh right, there was that creative picture subplot where- oh wait, that was totally ripped the fuck off from "The Omen" and totally took away from the fun foreshadowing in the movies. Characters who not only were flat as a plate but also annoying as fuck (whose idea was to put Paris Hilton wannabes in this series? I mean, up until that point the series at least had 'realistic' archetypes, never this type of trash. Sure, the death scenes were cool if a little too much and the lead character was great and played fantastically well by Mary Winstead (with what she had, though). But yes, the biggest insult was the roller coaster.

And yes, there's only so much you can do with a roller coaster crash, but this insult of a scene didn't even TOUCH on that potential. After what the crash in 2 was, I'm surprised Wong didn't try to one-up part 2 (or himself in part 1 for that matter) in any way. It's not intense when it should, it consists only of people's faces as they scream and some of them flying off with virtually zero blood. How can you kill over 20 people in one scene and only show ONE gory death? Especially in a series like this? The green screen was retardedly obvious and . . . oh my god it was just so damn bad.

I hope they go back to what made the first one such a modern-day "classic", if not, at least what the second one did, where it mixed the cleverness of the first with REAL dark humor (no part 3 unsubtle bullshit) and, hopefully, a cast of characters who LIKE each other. Friends or something! Why can't the casts of FD ever be friends? It'd make the movies somewhat emotional.

Elgyn
10-04-2007, 02:07 PM
AMEN, X-Nightcrawler.

I loved the first two movies - they were both original and innovative. And surprisingly, Part 2 wasn`t a simple rehash and continued the plot of the first movie.

But Part 3.....my God, I don`t think I`ve EVER been so dissapointed with a movie. The rollercoaster disaster wasn`t just "unconvincing".....it was so STUPID and fake-looking, you would almost think Morgan & Wong were going for parody.

The whole movie (even the death scenes) was just lazy, uninspired, and dull.

JackassFan
10-04-2007, 02:23 PM
I enjoyed the first one, it was a fun and pretty damn good movie.

However, the sequels don't really do much for me at all, so I'm a nay.

smok3h
10-04-2007, 03:31 PM
All this talk of Final Destination has brought a question to the front of my mind.

WHAT THE FUCK EVER HAPPENED TO DEVON SAWA?! Did he just quit acting or something?

Bourne101
10-04-2007, 04:09 PM
Final Destination was fun and original, Final Destination 2 was an extremely good and intense time. Final Destination 3 on the other hand was just mediocre. It wasn't terrible, but it didn't show any signs of improvement or originality like 1 and 2 did. I think a 4th is not necessary because all of the original characters are long gone, and to keep creating new characters with the same plot is never a good thing.

Nay

Elgyn
10-04-2007, 04:09 PM
Good question!

X-Nightcrawler
10-04-2007, 07:32 PM
It's such a shame that Sawa disappeared from the map. I'm a huge fan of him in "Final Destination" and "Idle Hands" (both great movies). I saw him embrassing himself in that shitfest "Slackers" and haven't seen him since. He's a very competent actor, which is the worst part.

I was also pissed in 3 how not even the deaths made sense.

*spoilers*

Okay so we need to kill Erin, let's do something grotesque, got it! Now how to set up for that to happen. Oh wait, we don't need to, just make a lot of really fucking complicated things going on in the background and have her suddenly pop dead, it'll be shocking and no one will wonder how the hell it happened. And really, how did it happen? I got more or less why those things fell on Ian (even if, again, it's tarded how overly complicated and aimless the things took) but exactly why did Erin fly off and fall on her back and exactly why did the fuckin nailgun begin shooting?

And I don't even want to START with the finale in the fair.

*punks pull something from the RAD sweatshirts*
*closeup of them holding firecrackers*
Both: "Heheh, sweeet."

And all those things that began happening plothole after plothole after plothole. I love how Kevin pushes Julie out of the horse's way but it still doesn't count as an intervention, or how she was going to die by getting shredded with the rope the horse is pulling passing among those spikes but OH WAIT the fucking horse jumped OVER that thing, how did the rope get there? Did the horse like, squeeze itself through that mower thing?

But my favorite is the chinese girl getting killed out of nowhere. Anyone surprised? Anyone gave a shit? Right, no one. This movie is just terrible and every time I watch it, more and more problems are apparent, which is the exact opposite as parts 1 and 2.

navarr0
10-05-2007, 03:12 AM
i only watch it for the death scenarios, theyre pretty clever. Who knows, some movies, in my opinion get better with sequels. (hostel 2 and FF2)

Duke Nukem
10-05-2007, 07:46 PM
Wow. That hate stemmed deeper than I originally thought. I'm honestly surprised some of you disliked it so much. Regardless, all of you have your own feelings and that's fine.

I will admit that the characters in FD3 came off like high school stereotypes and didn't go too far beyond. I will also admit that the first FD featured high school stereotypes that ultimately expanded and went kind of deep. Well, even though FD3 expanded less on the characters, I didn't find all of them to be only onedimensional. The two main characters plus the gothic skeptic guy who all last up to the climax weren't that flat. The gothic guy in particular brought an interesting debate over "fate/death" and that itself was right up there with how the original FD characters dealt with their situation. And not to mention, the goth girl. She added some depth to this element as well.

The rest of the characters, yes. We have the Paris Hilton twins, the bitchy sister, the bitchy friend of the bitchy sister, the pervert, and the jock/token black guy all wrapped in one. They featured less dimension, but I didn't have a problem with that. I think part of the fun with a movie like this is playing back to those old stereotypes we've all dealt with. There is a reason they became stereotypes in this genre and I have known every one of them. The movie tried to have it both ways. A little seriouness here and some cheese over there. I guess the balance worked for me and didn't work for some of you. That's life.

I still disagree about the rollercoaster of death. I've been on many rollercoasters and what they managed to do worked wonders for me. While, on the subject of death, I did not find the build-up to the "fateful" death scenes too elaborate. Nor did I find the actual deaths so over-the-top either.

And the "disappointing" climax and plothole after plothole? I don't know what plotholes any of you are talking about. The movie isn't perfect, but it is not that inconsistent to follow. And the climax worked wonders for me too. Plus, the subway sequence. For once, they ended everything right there for everybody and without goofing off.

That is actually why FD3 could be the perfect ending to this series for me. However, if there happens to be "ripples" changing time and introducing new characters who normally wouldn't have been introduced at all (and well executed like FD2 did with this), I'm all for FD4.

Say what all of you want to say. Some of you regard it as trash, yet it's a buried treasure I am grateful to have found.