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pablo_super1!
10-10-2007, 04:16 PM
While there has been no official word on this so far I’m hearing it from enough sources very close to the film itself and the principals involved that I’m quite confident reporting it as fact. Word is out that Fox has yanked control of upcoming video game adaptation away from director Xavier Gens. This happens from time to time if a director turns in weak footage but that is not the case here. After being hired to shoot an adaptation of the ultra-violent video game Gens took Asian action films such as The Killer and A Bittersweet Life as his starting point and turned in an explicitly violent, very bloody cut of the film that apparently included a number of head shots and extreme gore moments that would have guaranteed the film a hard R rating. Which really shouldn’t have been any sort of surprise if the studio execs had been paying any attention at all - it’s not like they wouldn’t have seen the dailies or effects work ahead of time - but apparently after seeing Gens’ cut of the film the studio removed him from the project and placed Nicolas De Toth in control of a new edit of the film. Who’s De Toth? He’s the man behind the edit of Live Free Or Die Hard, a job he was hired for specifically to turn in an entirely bloodless version of the film and word is that this is his task with Hit Man as well. So what are we going to get? A bloodless version of the film assembled with no input whatsoever from Gens. Very sad considering just how promising the trailers have been so far.

First I wasn't really interested in this film then the trailer looked Awesome. And Now this shit when will Fox learn that not all movies are for little kids the only reason this is being cut is that that little kids and teenagers can go see it in theaters. This is the same shit that happened with Live free Or Die Hard and you see how that turned out, Not that it was a bad movie but it wasn't as good as it could've been and now a probably perfect Cut of the Film is made, but what does fox do Yank the Director and Hired an editor so that the movie gets a PG-13 and in all likeness it will.

vesaker
10-10-2007, 04:21 PM
lowest.... common..... denomiator.....

Truely is what is killing good movies these days. :mad:

Tuukka
10-10-2007, 04:34 PM
I actually always assumed this was gonna be PG-13.

The editing of DH4 didn't bother me much. The DH series have never been that violent anyway, and DH4 was a very good movie on so many levels.

But I don't think that Hitman is going to be equally good. It comes off as a film which NEEDS to be exploitative to work properly, because I'm not expecting great things from writing, directing or acting. So a heavy R-rating would have made it raise up quite a bit in my expectations.

And it does sound like they have to do a pretty big amount of fixing. In DH there were only two fleeting moments were I noticed that violence had been tamed down. In here it sounds as if this was shot to be really violent, and that's something that is hard to fix.

I guess that after 300 made a gazillion dollars, they realized that R-rated action movies can't do well... Not.

Scarfather
10-10-2007, 04:38 PM
It's going to be terrible no matter how violent it is.

DarthWade
10-10-2007, 05:04 PM
Whatever happened to American movies??? Let it be violent. Have the balls to stand by your director/picture! Duh...

Too bad this movie didn't come out in the 70s, at least then the studios had more guts then. I know it's probably for the almighty dollar, but come on...I hope this isn't true but it probably is.

jbar1026
10-10-2007, 05:19 PM
i never played the game so i cant say anything for that but the trailers were making this thing look awsome! i was ready to pay to see it but now i dont know. fox should have thought that the movie would be rated r in the first place. after all its called hitman because the guy is going to be killing people!

Cronos
10-10-2007, 06:11 PM
Aaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha, I was actually rather looking forward to this, looks like I'll just have to wait for it to appear uncut on DVD then, oh well.

thedudeman69
10-10-2007, 06:12 PM
Wait a second? They give AVP 2 a hard R, but they give this a mild R? What the fuck? Hypocrites.

gspawn
10-10-2007, 10:32 PM
I wish this project would get reworked...
IMHO: The trailers so far are perfect... if you imagine Jason Statham playing 47. Especially with the bald look, the current kid looks like he's 16 and way too emo to pull this movie off. He looks more like he's prepping for a sequel to American History X than for an Assassin movie.

ilovemovies
10-11-2007, 04:59 AM
The DH series have never been that violent anyway


I enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard as well but how can you say that? Did we see the same movies? The Die Hard movies, especially the first two, are pretty damn violent and even quite gory.


As for Hitman, this is very disappointing news. Looks like this movie won't be half as cool as it could be because FOX has to fuck it up.

Should I now be worried about Aliens Vs Predator - Requiem?

ilovemovies
10-11-2007, 06:40 AM
Never mind what I wrote. I didn't see the other thread. Apparently this isn't true and the movie will actually be rated R. That's a big relief.

Tuukka
10-11-2007, 08:49 AM
I enjoyed Live Free or Die Hard as well but how can you say that? Did we see the same movies? The Die Hard movies, especially the first two, are pretty damn violent and even quite gory.

Well, the amount of violence is pretty small. Save a for a few bullet wounds and the 2-second brain splatter in DH1 and the 2-second icicle in DH2, I don't find them to be particularly violent or gory. Not like Verhoeven or Woo action movies are violent, or how Terminator 2 was violent, or how Predator was violent.

But from that description Hitman sounds much, much more violent than any DH movie.

MisterChristian
10-11-2007, 10:00 AM
oh how we've become so desensitized :D

Smiert Spionam
10-11-2007, 10:03 AM
http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114697

No offense, pablo, but you could have really put this new info into this thread as opposed to starting an entire new one. It really just reduces a lot of clutter, y'know?

bigred760
10-15-2007, 04:00 AM
This is the news that was untrue, right?

Scorpio24
10-15-2007, 06:16 AM
I'm more bothered about this kind of thing than I am about remakes or sequels. I haven't seen this trailer nor do I know much about it. but i've played the game and it's fucking violent. Why change it ot PG13. Well we know why.

This more than anything is pissing me off about movies these days. Films/ideas that are designed to be violent, toned down to get the kids in. Very annoying.

Tagia_Romero
10-15-2007, 06:20 AM
I'm more bothered about this kind of thing than I am about remakes or sequels. I haven't seen this trailer nor do I know much about it. but i've played the game and it's fucking violent. Why change it ot PG13. Well we know why.

This more than anything is pissing me off about movies these days. Films/ideas that are designed to be violent, toned down to get the kids in. Very annoying.

A real shame.

ilovemovies
10-15-2007, 07:43 AM
I'm more bothered about this kind of thing than I am about remakes or sequels. I haven't seen this trailer nor do I know much about it. but i've played the game and it's fucking violent. Why change it ot PG13. Well we know why.

This more than anything is pissing me off about movies these days. Films/ideas that are designed to be violent, toned down to get the kids in. Very annoying.


Yeah, but it's not true. It's still going to be R.

Scorpio24
10-15-2007, 08:13 AM
Yeah, but it's not true. It's still going to be R.

If that's the case that's good. Although there are still way to many films this is happening to.