The Dark Knight Trailer

[Rukas]

Bad quality cam rip is out, so I am guessing a good quality rip is just hours away (at least I hope so because this looks fucking awesome).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwT8GyLxIhk

[Rick-James]

oh shit! that's pretty fucking awesome.

[Inglorious]

OH MY GOD!!! I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT ANY LONGER ILL GO BATSHIT!!!

:D

[PR0J3KT M]

holy shit!!! damn..that looks sweeeet!

[Ron34]

oh my goodness! that was a good trailer...im not making shit up, that was seriously a good f'n trailer! made my night!

[GR13]

Hey guys, I think this is my first post. Anyway, got to see this trailer tonight at a midnight showing of Legend!! I was hoping a better quality was up by now, I can't wait for this movie!!!!

[MisterTwister]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS. That was so BADASS. I ca't wait to see a higher quality version. I'm officially stoked about Ledger being The Joker, he was awesome!

[Powerslave]

That looks absolutely fucking incredible. Everything about it.

[yorrick brown]

Sorry mr bale but i think ledger is gonna own you in this movie.


very very very awesome.wow the bat bike actually looks pretty kickass.

thanks for posting.

[JCPhoenix]

I saw the opening on IMAX which was pretty cool (though there was one profile shot of Batman that seemed a little corny/fashion-ad-ish)...I really wanna watch this trailer but I'm gonna have to hold off for a nice version.

[Cop No. 633]

Holy Shit that looks incredible. Fuck, this movie will own every other comic book film ever made. I usually am never certain that a film will be good. But this looks fucking amazing. This looks like the Joker I've been dying to see for years!

[smok3h]

My... God

That trailer brought tears of joy to my eyes

[Katsumoto]

Just got back from the midnight show on I Am Legend on the IMAX. The Joker Prologue was fantastic. Its sick how long we have to wait for this movie. Sick!

[Inglorious]

Just got back from the midnight show on I Am Legend on the IMAX. The Joker Prologue was fantastic. Its sick how long we have to wait for this movie. Sick!
Its all on the Joker?

[-heyen-]

That trailer is fucking incredible.

Fucking.Incredible.

[AndrewDB]

We've already been discussing it in the official Dark Knight Thread....

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110079

Can we continue to do so in there please?

PS: Welcome to the site.

[JasonAdams]

*moved post to the other DARK KNIGHT thread.*

[yorrick brown]

a work of art .

[Shockwave]

"Lets put a smile on that face!"-Joker

Mission accomplished.:) Fucking awesome trailer. Once again, Alfred is the power behind the throne.

[#1dvdfan]

MY GOD!!! this ficking trailer owns!!! this will kick every comic book films ass to death!!! I can't stop watching the trailer!!! This literly brought tears to my ears im not joking I shed some tears!!!

There is no way that is Heath Ledger!!! No way He had to do something to transform him into this mad man. This is the REAL joker!!!!!!! Heath is gonna own this film forget Bale it's all Leadger's film now!!!

I can't wait till Sat to see the 7 min. preview!!!

[anakinsrise]

Heath Ledger has The Joker down cold so many little sinister touches he adds

[AspectRatio1986]

My... God

That trailer brought tears of joy to my eyes

Seriously dude, me too!

[Nomein]

The hype made this trailer a bit anticlamitc, as far as the batman scenes go.

However I will say it had its golden moments, and im proud to say this Joker... may be the best Joker in history, and that is a great acomplishment.

[therealjohng]

Good trailer.


The best thing I like about the joker is, if I didn't know it was Ledger going into the movie, I probably couldn't tell from the shots of him. His voice, his face, nothing sounds or looks like him. His laugh, my god his laugh, is brilliant.


All in all, good trailer.

[Scarfather]

Big trailer releases should have their own threads, the 'official' topics for films are quagmires of spoilers, unlike most, I don't want to know ANYTHING about these films outside of what they give us in the trailer and TV spots.

That said, maybe I should wait until HD, because I couldn't see enough to judge what was even going on, let alone how cool it was.

[dennisv]

Fuck. I missed it. Now I can't see it. Fucking 8am-12pm class on a fucking friday..

[Worthystevens]

Holy goddamn motherfucking shit. :eek: I'm in a state of anxiety after seeing the teaser!!

Is tomorrow July 18th? :(

[Smiert Spionam]

Let's keep the partay goin'!

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=23945117

[xseanymacx]

Holy. Shit.

This is going to be the best movie ever. No question about it.

I really had no big intentions of seeing I AM LEGEND this soon but I'll be going to a 10:30 showing tonight JUST for this trailer.

I'm a little bummed I won't get to see the Joker prologue but it could be worse.

[Bourne101]

Oh. My. God. :eek:

This movie is going to own all summer movies. Period. End of story.

[FLAME_ON]

Oh. My. God. :eek:

This movie is going to own all summer movies. Period. End of story.

I don't know dude... as much as I want to agree (and I would like to), it's going to be fucking World War III between Bats and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

[the saw is family]

saw it today before I am Legend, it looks absolutely amazing. i can't wait to see this. i'm not usually one to get all worked up over summer blockbusters (more of an indie and smaller fare kind of moviegoer) but this drew me in. I haven't been this excited for a big movie in a really long time.

[therealjohng]

it's going to be fucking World War III between Bats and The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.


Hahaha....no it's not.

[Inglorious]

Now it's a private video. :(

[FLAME_ON]

Hahaha....no it's not.

How will it not be?

[Cop No. 633]

I love Indy... but come on, this is Batman we're talking about. And the Joker. The only reason Begins didn't do as good as it should have was because people still had that awful taste of the other series... now that people know what's going, they will flock to see the Dark Knight.

Oh, and they have two of the best villains of Batman's history. The Joker and Two Face.

Indy's been out of the cinema since 1989. I'm sure there will be a lot of fans, but let's not forget a good chunk of people who go to films nowadays are teenagers... whose really going to get them in the theater?

Harrison Ford or Batman, the Joker, and Two Face?

[Dead Halloween]

When will it be officialy online?

[FLAME_ON]

Harrison Ford or Batman, the Joker, and Two Face?

Although I am more excited about The Dark Knight as a film... I'm just fucking torn between my love for Indy and Batman.

But for box-office... Each film's anticipation is riding heavily on the popularity of the title characters, but I think of it more like Harrison, Shia, and Spielberg vs. Batman, Joker, and Two-Face; Real people vs. Characters. The Dark Knight does have a phenomenal cast and crew, talent wise, but I think they lack the star power Indiana has. However, Indiana might suffer because of the age factor. And sure, the teenagers have a large influence on attendance but with these two particular films, we're dealing with the influence of families with young children and the older generations.
But I don't know, I'm not saying I think one or the other will perform better; I just think there's a lot to count for.

[bourahioro]

I can't wait for that 7 minute Joker Prologue to be leaked, that shit should be fucking tight!

[Cop No. 633]

Although I am more excited about The Dark Knight as a film... I'm just fucking torn between my love for Indy and Batman.

But for box-office... Each film's anticipation is riding heavily on the popularity of the title characters, but I think of it more like Harrison, Shia, and Spielberg vs. Batman, Joker, and Two-Face; Real people vs. Characters. The Dark Knight does have a phenomenal cast and crew, talent wise, but I think they lack the star power Indiana has. However, Indiana might suffer because of the age factor. And sure, the teenagers have a large influence on attendance but with these two particular films, we're dealing with the influence of families with young children and the older generations.
But I don't know, I'm not saying I think one or the other will perform better; I just think there's a lot to count for.

Definitely. I would say they probably will be the top earning films of the year. They both have a lot of hype around them... but I still don't see why everybody's big on that Shia kid. I find him annoying and he's pretty much himself in every role. I hate that with "actors." If it was Joseph Gordon Levitt, then I might be more interested in Indiana... but Shia definitely doesn't interest me at all.

[Shockwave]

Id love to see this series take on Mr Freeze or Bane.:eek:

Indiana Jones hype is going to be HUGE once it gets rolling. Im not the largest fan of the series, but given the director and actors involved, i dont see how it wont be a big hit.

Batman is going to be a huge hit as well. The first movie had alot of people confused that they stared all over. This time they know whats up walking in.

If i had to guess, id still say JONES has the chance to make more money however.

Not that it matters, whoever loses, we win by getting two kick-ass movies.:cool: Im a fan of both series and hope each surpass my expectations.

[#1dvdfan]

Does the trailer and prologue appear at imax?

[Cop No. 633]

what the fuck... http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35061

Harry always has to fucking blow it for the fans. He always comes off as a douche bag... always has to act like it's his duty to be the one to shout it at the top of a mountain. "Hey, look at me.... Dark Knight trailer! Up here! Look!"

Don't they understand? Keep it on the forums for the fans so then the companies won't get a hold of the news. Dumbasses. That's why I don't like that site. Run by a fat slob I'd never want to meet.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Absolutely fantastic , this is a film made by someone who is in command of his skill , talent , and art , judging by the trailer . Of course this sequel conforms to the rules of every other sequel , bigger explosions , more action , an enhanced epic nature , more imposing villains , more vehicles in the arsenal .


It looks terrific , and yes , heath has done a fine job as the Joker , but , you knew i had to complain about something .


He's trying too damn hard to distinguish himself as The Joker , and in the process he has basically formed an amalgamation of just about all of the previous cinematic bat villians . I'm getting Riddler and Two Face flashbacks . And that laugh , can someone tell me how that's not just a slight variation on Nicholson's laugh in Batman 89 , it's just about an amateur recreation of his . I fully expected Heath to spout out the dancing in the moonlight line . Say what you will about Jack's way over the top and borderline comical performance , Heath is simply doing a lower key version of his . I don't know , i always felt Ledger was going to do a Shakespeare version of Joker , and that's what i'm getting . Just study Nic and some of the other bat villians , mix , simmer , and there you go , JotwoRidd . This is like a burnt out emo after a pearl jam concert .

And oh man , i can already tell the women lead is just going to get in the way again , she seems to be a poor man's Chase Meridien in this one . You've got some fight in you , i like that , then you'll love me , oh my lord , why do they feel the need for a " love " interest , it's cringe inducing . ( the scene at the cocktail party or whatever it is , is straight out of BF , although Gyllenhall has somewhat more of a backbone ) .

Alfred is still relegated to making confucious statements , come on , Bat already knows what he's going to do regardless , it's simply a glorified voiceover . What he tells him is basically , do the right thing Batman , and you can't go wrong , wondrously insightful . I don't want Batman's internal conflict made so literal and obvious , where is the internalized conflict , nope it has to be paraded for the mainstream via Alfred's pearls of wisdom .


And the Batman himself , maybe i'm just burnt out , but , no matter how expert Bale's perf is as the man in black , he still lacks something , a true dark side . He never really transforms into this psychotic creature stalking criminals in the night , he just seems pissed off at the world , a petulant child avenging his parent's death via his vigilante exploits . I can't say who the best Bat is so far , because they all had their own unique take , but i still don't think we have been gifted the ultimate cinematic version of the character . Yes , Bale is excellent as the Dark guy , but it's not complete , it's like he's still strutting around , trying to make us forget the other Batmen , and getting a big head doing it .


So , i'm definitely looking forward to Batman Begins Again , but the ultimate Batman movie has still not been made .


By the way , the Joker still isn't scary , yes , on a if your under 13 kind of way , i could see him scaring that demographic , not anyone older than that though , he's just a bit wacky is all . I know what batman needs , a bit of the good old fashioned gore , all of the films up to this point have been relatively bloodless . This is a dangerous world he's supposed to be inhabiting , not a true comic book universe where you can't take the violence seriously , i can see they are holding back , so what really seperates these new bat films from some of the others , just the fact that they toned down some of the characterizations .


ps - Gerard Butler would have ruled as Joker , to me , Heath is , and always will be the curious choice , a missed opportunity at perfection . He'll be brilliant , as evidenced by the trailer , just not the perfect choice to finally make the Joker genuinely menacing for once .



You're a freak just like me , heheheheheheh . I'm shaking in my boots .

[Scarfather]

Absolutely fantastic , this is a film made by someone who is in command of his skill , talent , and art , judging by the trailer . Of course this sequel conforms to the rules of every other sequel , bigger explosions , more action , an enhanced epic nature , more imposing villains , more vehicles in the arsenal .


It looks terrific , and yes , heath has done a fine job as the Joker , but , you knew i had to complain about something .


He's trying too damn hard to distinguish himself as The Joker , and in the process he has basically formed an amalgamation of just about all of the previous cinematic bat villians . I'm getting Riddler and Two Face flashbacks . And that laugh , can someone tell me how that's not just a slight variation on Nicholson's laugh in Batman 89 , it's just about an amateur recreation of his . I fully expected Heath to spout out the dancing in the moonlight line . Say what you will about Jack's way over the top and borderline comical performance , Heath is simply doing a lower key version of his . I don't know , i always felt Ledger was going to do a Shakespeare version of Joker , and that's what i'm getting . Just study Nic and some of the other bat villians , mix , simmer , and there you go , JotwoRidd . This is like a burnt out emo after a pearl jam concert .

And oh man , i can already tell the women lead is just going to get in the way again , she seems to be a poor man's Chase Meridien in this one . You've got some fight in you , i like that , then you'll love me , oh my lord , why do they feel the need for a " love " interest , it's cringe inducing . ( the scene at the cocktail party or whatever it is , is straight out of BF , although Gyllenhall has somewhat more of a backbone ) .

Alfred is still relegated to making confucious statements , come on , Bat already knows what he's going to do regardless , it's simply a glorified voiceover . What he tells him is basically , do the right thing Batman , and you can't go wrong , wondrously insightful . I don't want Batman's internal conflict made so literal and obvious , where is the internalized conflict , nope it has to be paraded for the mainstream via Alfred's pearls of wisdom .


And the Batman himself , maybe i'm just burnt out , but , no matter how expert Bale's perf is as the man in black , he still lacks something , a true dark side . He never really transforms into this psychotic creature stalking criminals in the night , he just seems pissed off at the world , a petulant child avenging his parent's death via his vigilante exploits . I can't say who the best Bat is so far , because they all had their own unique take , but i still don't think we have been gifted the ultimate cinematic version of the character . Yes , Bale is excellent as the Dark guy , but it's not complete , it's like he's still strutting around , trying to make us forget the other Batmen , and getting a big head doing it .


So , i'm definitely looking forward to Batman Begins Again , but the ultimate Batman movie has still not been made .


By the way , the Joker still isn't scary , yes , on a if your under 13 kind of way , i could see him scaring that demographic , not anyone older than that though , he's just a bit wacky is all . I know what batman needs , a bit of the good old fashioned gore , all of the films up to this point have been relatively bloodless . This is a dangerous world he's supposed to be inhabiting , not a true comic book universe where you can't take the violence seriously , i can see they are holding back , so what really seperates these new bat films from some of the others , just the fact that they toned down some of the characterizations .


ps - Gerard Butler would have ruled as Joker , to me , Heath is , and always will be the curious choice , a missed opportunity at perfection . He'll be brilliant , as evidenced by the trailer , just not the perfect choice to finally make the Joker genuinely menacing for once .



You're a freak just like me , heheheheheheh . I'm shaking in my boots .

:eek:

[dellamorte dellamore]

I never said i wouldn't like it / love it , i'm just saying it's getting familiar and that there is room for improvement :) .

[electriclite]

I never said i wouldn't like it / love it , i'm just saying it's getting familiar and that there is room for improvement :) .
The movie hasn't even come out yet. For all you know, what's in the trailer could be edited out. Hell, the movie might end up supplying with more of less of your demands.

A bit too early to be saying what the movie is lacking.

[Worthystevens]

Gerard Butler? Awesome guy, but he really doesn't need to be recommended for every single movie role out there.

This is one part I can't see him fitting well in.

[NuclearMisfit]

You know what my favorite part of the trailer is? When hes like "Well good evening Commissioner and they show him in the jail cell, that just sent goosebumps all over, Heath is the man and I will wait to see the final product but man he needs an award for doing something cool like doing his own take on the Joker. the Head of makeup needs one too for doing such a great job.

I like Gerard Butler but frankly ive heard his name recommended too much for other movies alot lately that IMO doesnt belong in ie: Sabertooth in the Wolverine flick, i just dont see him pulling the joker nor sabertooth off. Why not just stick with Tyler Mane.

[deftdelivery]

Just got back from I Am Legend (non IMAX).

The new trailer looked amazing on the big screen!

[JoeChar4321]

That was damn cool. The new outfit finally works and it looks great. The crowd I saw it with enjoyed it a lot.

2008 is going to RULE the decade.

[floydtheater07]

What an incredible trailer. Bale is one of my favorite actors, but I think that ledger will be the man to see this time around. His take on the Joker, a character that I never got into as much as some people, is absolutely intense. This trailer alone has done a lot to make me dig him as a villain.

Also, I agree with FLAME ON. "Indiana Jones" is gonna be big; "The Dark Knight" will probably be the most successful flick of the summer, but let's not underestimate Indy. As incredible as "Batman Begins" was, it certainly was not as legendary as "Raiders of the Lost Ark". In my opinion, the return of Indy is almost as awesome as the return of "Star Wars" (although let's hope that this one actually turns out to be a quality film, unlike those prequels, only one of which I liked).

[therealjohng]

How will it not be?


Dark Knight will crush it. Hands down. No contest.

[doobie6136]

When will it be officialy online?
sunday, I havnt watched any of the bootlegs, i'm waiting for the official
Does the trailer and prologue appear at imax?
the prologue with a few clips from the trailer
Its all on the Joker?

pretty much


I saw I Am Legend in IMAX today(which was pretty sweet by the way) and they announced beforehand that they were showing the prologue and nobody reacted, it was like no one had any idea it was showing. After it played a few people said that it looked cool but otherwise there wasnt much chatter about it, a bit disappointing but I thought it was fucking amazing (I had the chills while sporting a huge smile the whole time) and I am convinced it will be the best movie of 2008, after the prologue there was a mini trailer and this thing looks EPIC. As far as the Joker - perfect, the walk, the voice, his actions - they only showed his face for a second which, again, was perfect. I also dont think this will leak online, it should be seen on the IMAX only.

[dfd3657]

Unfortunately I wasn't able to see the prologue before I Am Legend (the fucking tickets were sold out; the guy said they had been for fucking days), but let me fully react to this.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Now that I got that out of my system...that's probably the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in my whole life (even in shitty quality). I'm thoroughly convinced that this will be my favorite movie of 2008. When Heath was first announced, I was a little iffy, but all my doubts have been officially put to rest. That fucking laugh! And the shot right after he says, "Evening, Commisioner," I nearly shat myself cause it literally scared the fuck out of me. What I absolutely love about him is that you can hardly even fucking tell it's Heath Ledger. God damn, I can't wait to see this in high def. July is too fucking far away, god dammit.

[RellimHcaz]

Just saw the new trailer during I Am Legend. I had an orgasam while watching it. IT WAS FUCKING AMAZING!!!

[fooknasty]

The prologue at the IMAX was phenomenal. It was just beautiful to look at, regardless of what was going on. And it was set up so perfectly.

The people who saw the trailer got a lot more footage then the people who saw the IMAX. However, the IMAX bank scene was just amazing.

I don't really know what else to say....:eek:

[Michele_]

take a look here http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=dYThU7waK8I
...:( it's sounds bad, personally I don't see so much...but better than nothing :p

it's just a part of the whole prologue :(

[jedsmereds]

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[Rawlin67]

this is gonna rock. im so pumped.

and Gerard Butler as the Joker would have basically been a joke in itself. Ive yet to see him in a role with Joker-like charisma. Plus, could he really pull off that voice? he seems more the epic speech man than the witty funny-man.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I don't know , i'm not saying Ledger didn't pull it off , but Butler would have had that extra edge to really make you believe someone like the Joker can strike fear in the heart of Batman . Ledger's version is more mischievous than menacing or threatening , enough to satisfy the legion of fanboys but still palatable to the kiddies , don't want to scare them too much .


This is Joker lite , yes still brilliant , but wanting a bit a more . It's about as scary and intimidating as Jack's perf or the one from the cartoon .


No matter , everything else seems to be in order , and i'm sure the next one should be even better .


ps - i like the homage to Bat 89 , the showdown in the middle of a long avenue , with Joker shooting at the batcycle .

[Cop No. 633]

I just can't see Gerard Butler as the Joker. The guy's not a bad actor, but I wouldn't ever want to see him as the Joker. It's not like Joker was ever meant to be a physically imposing guy. He'll always get his ass kicked by Batman. What makes him scary is that he's conniving and a trickster. He'll cheat any way he can to win a fight. That's what I always liked about him.

I'm willing to bet he's going to do just that in the film. What we've seen isn't even 2 minutes of footage, so it's not like we have a lot to judge on whether or not he "nailed" it. But I think it's promising enough to want to see the film.

[Rawlin67]

yeah im still not seeing this explained to me. Joker isnt a fighter, he never was designed to be a fighter, thats why he has all the wacky gadgets and shit. and i still havent heard a movie said where someone can say "look at butlers charisma here, he could be joker." the man doesnt have like, any. yeah, he can stand around and go "ARGH, WE DINE IN HELL" but someone tell me how he could pull off that laugh. or the voice. or the look. bah. he did have a lot of edge though in Phantom of the Opera. kidding.

im probably seeing i am legend next week or around there so until then im going to avoid any videos of the prologue popping up, i really want the imax experience to be the first time. i want to be shocked.

[Dr Venkman]

Can the dellamorte guy just stop talking, he has no clue what hes talking about. Butler couldn't have handled this role if his life depended on it. Ledger owns - end of story. Okay? End Of Story, now go beat off to 300 again.

[AndrewDB]

I'm sorry, but I just couldn't see Gerard as anything very significant in the Batman universe. He just doesn't have that personality type that would mesh well with the rest of the universe that Nolan's created.

[FLAME_ON]

Random thought... After doing a little Matrix marathon last week, I thought Hugo Weaving (in another lifetime) could make an elegant, yet fucking bad ass Joker.

[AndrewDB]

Random thought... After doing a little Matrix marathon last week, I thought Hugo Weaving (in another lifetime) could make an elegant, yet fucking bad ass Joker.

Yup.. I've been saying they should of gotten Hugo Weaving (My favorite actor) before I heard Heath, but I'm okay with the fact they went with Heath. I never really had a problem with him to begin with.

[Jimbo513]

This is Joker lite , yes still brilliant , but wanting a bit a more . It's about as scary and intimidating as Jack's perf or the one from the cartoon .

Wow, you're awesome! You've seen the movie 6 months before release!? You must be uber cool!

Quit being a tool and judging a performance based on seeing a trailer and/or a 7 min snippet.

[adamjohnson]

Wow, you're awesome! You've seen the movie 6 months before release!? You must be uber cool!

Quit being a tool and judging a performance based on seeing a trailer and/or a 7 min snippet.



I've never seen DD enjoy anything ecxept garbage and his own reflection. Don't listen to him.

[Rawlin67]

Random thought... After doing a little Matrix marathon last week, I thought Hugo Weaving (in another lifetime) could make an elegant, yet fucking bad ass Joker.

i myself after thinking about it, thought Crispin Glover would have been an interesting choice. the guys livelier than just about any actor in the biz.

however, im super satisfied with Ledger. ive always thought him underrated.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Wow, you're awesome! You've seen the movie 6 months before release!? You must be uber cool!

Quit being a tool and judging a performance based on seeing a trailer and/or a 7 min snippet.


Uh , isn't that what everyone else is saying , but just the opposite . Most people are saying it's going to own , best comic book movie ever , Ledger is fantastic , based on a 2 minute trailer with about 30 seconds of Joker in total . And i don;t see how his laugh is that much different than the one Nicholson did in B 89 , what's so special about this one , it was enhanced also in order to give it that echo effect , ohh creepy .

I don't care man , flame me all you want , no film is untouchable in my eyes , but TDK is garnering that status in some people's eyes now , you aren't even supposed to voice minor disappointment with this film , it will be worse when the film actually comes out . It will be rare to get an actual critique of the film because everyone will be breathless and fawning over it's brilliance .


I agree it will be fantastic , but that doesn't mean it will be above criticism . I'm just giving my opinion about what iv'e seen so far , and how i still feel they could have found a better choice for Joker . It's like i have to like this choice , no i don't .


And , i never saw 300 , this isn't about me liking Butler , but from what iv'e seen so far , he's proved to be versatile . Just look at him in POTO and then 300 , he has a tremendous range as an actor and could have easily added a sense of menace to Joker .


Yes , DK looks to be even more epic , the visuals are perfect , and the action looks to be even more intense than BB , it will be terrific , but that doesn't mean it will be perfect , i'll settle for near perfect though .


Here's the funny thing , this latest installment is such a huge step up in excellence from the first , so far from what iv'e seen , that it will make the first one seem pedestrian , it will pale in comparison . Will i even want to watch BB anymore after seeing DK , it seems like one big set up now , leading to the second film and the Joker .

[adamjohnson]

Uh , isn't that what everyone else is saying , but just the opposite . Most people are saying it's going to own , best comic book movie ever , Ledger is fantastic , based on a 2 minute trailer with about 30 seconds of Joker in total . And i don;t see how his laugh is that much different than the one Nicholson did in B 89 , what's so special about this one , it was enhanced also in order to give it that echo effect , ohh creepy .

I don't care man , flame me all you want , no film is untouchable in my eyes , but TDK is garnering that status in some people's eyes now , you aren't even supposed to voice minor disappointment with this film , it will be worse when the film actually comes out . It will be rare to get an actual critique of the film because everyone will be breathless and fawning over it's brilliance .


I agree it will be fantastic , but that doesn't mean it will be above criticism . I'm just giving my opinion about what iv'e seen so far , and how i still feel they could have found a better choice for Joker . It's like i have to like this choice , no i don't .


And , i never saw 300 , this isn't about me liking Butler , but from what iv'e seen so far , he's proved to be versatile . Just look at him in POTO and then 300 , he has a tremendous range as an actor and could have easily added a sense of menace to Joker .


Yes , DK looks to be even more epic , the visuals are perfect , and the action looks to be even more intense than BB , it will be terrific , but that doesn't mean it will be perfect , i'll settle for near perfect though .


Here's the funny thing , this latest installment is such a huge step up in excellence from the first , so far from what iv'e seen , that it will make the first one seem pedestrian , it will pale in comparison . Will i even want to watch BB anymore after seeing DK , it seems like one big set up now , leading to the second film and the Joker .

If this was Dark Knight Returns, your statements might have some merit, but other than that, I couldnt think of a much worse choice for the Joker than Gerard Butler.

[APzombie]

I think what people seem to be missing in Nolan's take on this film is-- He simply wants us to have a blast in theaters. Thats why he casts people like Ledger for the Joker and people like Oldman for Gordon. He doesn't want anything to be predictable. We say Glover and Bettany because we could already see how they would turn out the role. He doesn't want us to know the film and know the characters before we see it. He wants to shock us, to make a roller coaster for us (why else would he shoot in Imax?), I think Nolan creates with the experience of the first viewing in mind, not how the film will look years from now or how close a comic book film with characters we've known all our lives will look in comparison to its material (in the way 300 or Sin City cares), because then it becomes predictable and masturbatory in the sense that its familiar but glossy. He seems determined to just thrill us with unpredictability in acting, setting and story.

[Rawlin67]

If this was Dark Knight Returns, your statements might have some merit, but other than that, I couldnt think of a much worse choice for the Joker than Gerard Butler.

it is pretty much the worst choice ive ever heard. im not really sure he understands the Joker is not supposed to be a physical presence at all.
and hes not supposed to have a deep, dark power voice, which is in POTO and 300 (which by the way, he didnt really have that much range, he just went from a dark dude singing to a dark dude fighting) and having never even seen 300, itd be hard to judge for himself. im pretty sure if they would have chose him, we wouldnt be saying "hey look, this guy is actually good" like we with ledger, wed basically just be saying "what the fuck, why does the Joker sound like a Spartan Warrior."

[chinton]

Really I think Gerald Butler is a terrible idea. I dont see it at all and I dont get it.



Saw the Prologue and it looks great. I have no doubts about Ledger now.


By the way does anyone find it pretty amazing that a studio would release and entire cut scene and a long one at that wayway before the films released. The studio must have a lot of confidence.

[Rawlin67]

why shouldnt they? look at us, were shitfaced with excitement for this movie.

[Shockwave]

I think they realize the first one wasnt marketed all that great. Half the peopel walking in at my theatre thought it was a continuation of the series, not a do-over.

This time i think they are driving the point home that they got something special.:)

[dellamorte dellamore]

Okay , someone made a somewhat contradictory statement about Nolan's " unorthodox " approach to casting . They said he wants to be unpredictable , choose a guy you can't picture , or maybe even hadn't considered as the Joker , and judging by people's total aversion to even the idea of Butler as the Joker , according to that logic , it could have worked , since nobody seems be able to see him in that role . How do you know he couldn't have done the laugh ( even i can do my own poor man's version and have ) or capture the sadistic sense of psychotic whimsy , or get the look right and the walk , mannerisms .


Most people weren't sure about Ledger , but now it's no problem . I never doubted that he could pull off the Joker , because he's no doubt talented , a chameleon like actor , i just saw and would have liked someone else in the role , so yes , he's just as good as i imagined and just about what i thought he would be . I wasn't sure about how he would affect the laugh . It's great , but i can't say it's something out of the ordinary . When you have heard various Joker laughs throughout the history of the cartoons and movies , it's almost impossible to put your own stamp on . Hell , even someone on Yt has done a terrific rendition of that laugh . It's not a big deal though , because i can easily see ledger's influence(s) , it's sort of like a combination of the ones that came before , sort of his own take and a homage to other's who have played the Joker . That's not a bad thing though , just a random observation .


Allright , no more someone else should have played the Joker talk , i said my piece about that .


About the 6 minute footage . No way was i going to wait or go to an imax theater just to see it , no matter how much i like Batman . Honestly , if the entire film was available in that quality , i wouldn't care , i would still watch it and enjoy it , it def got the point across . What do i think of it , well , it makes the bank heist in BF look like an episode of dora the explorer . Now , i'm not saying i was blown away ( if i saw the imax version i prob would have been , but its not so much the quality , its the content i'm referring too ) , but it sets up the narrative perfectly and gives you a bit of a hint as to how sadistic Joker will be , without going over the top .


I like the music , the action , the editing , and the flow , it gets to the point without dragging things out . They are still holding back on the after effects of gunshots though , but i know this is pg 13 , so that's a minor quibble . You would have to make an r rated version if you want to see some real unsettling violence . That's the one thing the batman films all have in common , i can't take the violence seriously , it was and is , still " safe " and cartoonish , although less so in Nolan's versions . The true element of danger is lacking as a result , no worries , again , it's minor .



So , i'll say this now , despite my complaints , i easily see TDK as being the best Batman film to date , i don't see how it won't be at this point . They really looked to have raised the bar for all other comic book movies with this one , even for themselves . What's left after this , Joker is the most intriguing and charismatic of the bat villains , oh well , they are going to have to do something even more special to top this one .


Well , Nolan , Bale , and Ledger will have solidified legendary status after this film , it's going to be hard for people to accept Bale or Ledger in anything else now .


The film is going to be huge , i really don't see anything less than 300 mil , but you never know . I know i'll see it at least 4 or so times in the theater , maybe even on the same day :) .


Oh right , i like the smashing of the bat symbol light , that's a very nice touch to be sure . I can see it being lit up again towards the end , when the joker is vanquished , or temporarily put out of commission , in preparation for the sequel .

[Rawlin67]

dude, you have to face it.

Butler just isnt Joker. He may have an unorthodox approach to casting, but he still wants Joker, not a beefed up guy with the deepest voice in hollywood. maybe you can get your Butler wish and theyll cast him for a new Bane or something.

i cant even believer butler is being discussed in a batman thread.
its not a contradicting thing to say. he said he had an "unorthodox" approach, not a fucking stupid approach.

[xseanymacx]

It's Sunday...how do I get the high quality trailer on that site?:confused:

[Dr Venkman]

Anybody know what is going on with the online trailer? That IS afterall what this forum is about. Atasteforthetheatrical.com doesn't have anything yet and it is already 11:20 pacific.

Anybody know when it will go online? Or are we gonna have to do a treasure hunt or some shit to watch it?

[dellamorte dellamore]

dude, you have to face it.

Butler just isnt Joker. He may have an unorthodox approach to casting, but he still wants Joker, not a beefed up guy with the deepest voice in hollywood. maybe you can get your Butler wish and theyll cast him for a new Bane or something.

i cant even believer butler is being discussed in a batman thread.
its not a contradicting thing to say. he said he had an "unorthodox" approach, not a fucking stupid approach.

I am facing it , that's why i said i wouldn't mention it anymore . About the trailer , i'm sure the high quality one will on youtube soon , once someone snags it and converts it .

[JCPhoenix]

From what I've heard, my impression was that it was gonna be Sunday night rather than the day...

So I think all we can do is wait it out a few hours. I'm really excited to see this trailer, especially since I decided to hold off on the cam version to wait for a nice high quality one :D

[Digifruitella]

Ok, so saving the excitement of seeing this thing on a BIG SCREEN and not on camrip quality REALLY paid off. Pheeew. I was the only one in my vicinity that had the most vocal reaction to this trailer. Damn was that just balls out badass. I won't go into the technicalities of the structure of the trailer - simply put AWESOME job in THAT department. But, as for how it looks...amazing, totally amazing. It exactly FEELS like what all these great graphic novels would look and feel like if adapted RIGHT, on screen. Heath Ledger I see is going to own as the Joker. There was one little *blink and you'll miss it* scene in the trailer that I loved, which actually reminded me of something Nicholson had done in his version. When the Joker uses a weapon that shoots out a missile - the way he reacts to it after it's shot, as if he is so clumsy, using it for the first time...it just made me realize just why this movie will rock, just WHY Nolan is such an amazing filmmaker, because he pays attention to details!

Simply beautiful.

[Rawlin67]

anyone know if theyre going to start hyping eckharts role anytime soon? i know jokers the big deal here, but two face shoudnt be completely forgotten, especially eckhart himself.

[darkface]

anyone know if theyre going to start hyping eckharts role anytime soon? i know jokers the big deal here, but two face shoudnt be completely forgotten, especially eckhart himself.

It sounds like Nolan wants the attention to go to the Joker. And he's already said harvey dent will be at the arc of the story so I think it's great. He's letting people see the joker... but leaving plenty more with Harvey Dent to stay in the movie without spoiling it for us.

Good move I say.

[DarkKnight81]

anyone know if theyre going to start hyping eckharts role anytime soon? i know jokers the big deal here, but two face shoudnt be completely forgotten, especially eckhart himself.

Well Two Face wont be forgotten because he's probably only in the last few minutes, I'm taking a guess that the last scene is the introduction of Two Face much like the last scene of Begins was the intro of the Joker. I'm sure the extended trailer that comes out sometime next year will cover more aspects of the movie like Harvey Dent, I think this preview was just to give people a much needed taste of the Joker.

[ElderPredator]

My guess based on the website below is that the trailer will premiere tonight at 8:28pm. "8" people could fit in it or "28" if dismembered. 8:28pm....time will tell!

http://atasteforthetheatrical.com/

[dellamorte dellamore]

Yes Dig , i noticed that also , when he fired that rocket ( it looks like someone else was the primary holder and he just wanted to get in on the action to see what it was like ), but he reminded me more of Carrey's Riddler in BF than Jack in Bat 89 . There's no doubt he will incorporate some goofy mannerisms to complement his sinister side , good job there .

It's a precarious balancing act , because it's easy for a character such as the Joker to go too far into silly territory , like Jack's rendition ( i still love that one although it was too comical at times ) , if the character is too grandiose , the effectiveness is gone , but it doesn't seem as if that will happen in TDK .

[Inglorious]

Of course thats what it is.

Rearrange the letters "Fin High Edition"... "High Definition (Trailer)".

Just move the D to the beginning and add the fin after the E. Trailer is right underneath it.

[Digifruitella]

Yes Dig , i noticed that also , when he fired that rocket ( it looks like someone else was the primary holder and he just wanted to get in on the action to see what it was like ), but he reminded me more of Carrey's Riddler in BF than Jack in Bat 89 . There's no doubt he will incorporate some goofy mannerisms to complement his sinister side , good job there .

It's a precarious balancing act , because it's easy for a character such Joker to go too far into silly territory , like Jack's rendition ( i still love that one although it was too comical at times ) , if the character is too grandiose , the effectiveness is gone , but it doesn't seem as if that will happen in TDK .

Glad I'm not alone :) and I do see it now, more of a Carrey's Riddler. Oh gee, if there's one thing that I love most above anything it's filmmaker's crafty eye and attention to detail such as something as small as a mannerism. It's what makes this so much more enjoyable. I swear, Nolan must have been Godsent for us to helm and resurrect this saga.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I appreciate the little touches like that also , i like how Nolan has the ability to take bits of the previous films , the parts that i guess he felt worked , and somehow incorporates them into his vision . I'm not saying he definitely is , or that he's deliberately doing so , but it seems that way . Sort of paying homage to what has come before while still forging his own unique creation .


I think one thing that may not be obvious at this point , the Joker is going to be funny in this one , but i can see the humor followed up with something " shocking " , it looks like that's the direction they are going in .

[Digifruitella]

I appreciate the little touches like that also , i like how Nolan has the ability to take bits of the previous films , the parts that i guess he felt worked , and somehow incorporates them into his vision . I'm not saying he definitely is , or that he's deliberately doing so , but it seems that way . Sort of paying homage to what has come before while still forging his own unique creation .


I think one thing that may not be obvious at this point , the Joker is going to be funny in this one , but i can see the humor followed up with something " shocking " , it looks like that's the direction they are going in .

I definitely agree with you on that. It might not BE that way, but it certainly SEEMS that it's what Nolan is doing. And I agree on the humor bit with you as well. I'm just loving everything that has to do with how this is being handled with this film. You honestly FEEL the excitement vibes and that's a great sign of what a film should do to you.

[dellamorte dellamore]

Trailer just went up , at about 8 30 , whoever figured that one out is a true detective :) . Go to the page with the trailer advert and it's available now .

[darkface]

http://www.atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm

GO GO GO!

[dellamorte dellamore]

Much respect goes out to Elderpredator for figuring out the time the trailer would be available . Great job there man . Just watched and now i'm going to download it .

[ElderPredator]

Much respect goes out to Elderpredator for figuring out the time the trailer would be available . Great job there man . Just watched and now i'm going to download it .

Thanks bud, really appreciate it. I just thought about the two numbers and it made sense to me. I can't believe I was right. :)

[xseanymacx]

Just watched it 4 times and I am going to I AM LEGEND tonight just to see it big:D

[dellamorte dellamore]

You're the go to guy now Elder , for figuring this stuff out :) . I have it now , Dled it , just have to convert it to divx now , burn it to dvd and watch it on the tele in surround sound , 100 times .

[Scarfather]

YouTube already, geeze:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRjzsxec49Q

[Digifruitella]

You're the go to guy now Elder , for figuring this stuff out :) . I have it now , Dled it , just have to convert it to divx now , burn it to dvd and watch it on the tele in surround sound , 100 times .

don't spoil those 2 minutes of footage for yourself!! :p

[sweetnothing]

you can see the trailer at: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/the-dark-knight/trailer

[The Young Son]

I just came in my pants.

Ledger is living that role!

[Ayestrain]

Alright, I've checked out the good-quality trailer. I like it, it is indeed cool and I've watched it several times--but I think it has some flaws.

I agree the Bruce/Alfred heart to heart was unnecessary, or at least the part they used, because it makes little fucking sense, so it's pointless other than re-establishing that Michael Caine is back in this one.

I know this trailer was meant to be a big splash for the Joker (see you in December indeed), but there needed to be more Batman in this, cool shots, not quick cuts of him appearing out of nowhere or laying down the bike. The shots of him on the rooftop (on the cell phone w/ Joker?) were very cool.

Finally does anyone else think it's a little lame when Joker's clapping his hands and they keep cutting away to scenes of destruction after each clap? Once was more than enough, we get it, he orchestrates chaos. Also, having the trailer fade out on him looking not so menacing was dumb. Sometimes he looks great, and other times, when the makeups all runny, he just looks ridiculous. I'm sure it will all make sense when we finally get to see the film.

Let me just say that I didn't think the Batman Begins trailer was all that either (though I knew before going in that it would be a good film since Nolan and Bale were involved).

[echo_bravo]

Wow, you're awesome! You've seen the movie 6 months before release!? You must be uber cool!

Quit being a tool and judging a performance based on seeing a trailer and/or a 7 min snippet.

Dawg, this aint the imdb. If you want to make personal attacks and name call...go there. We act civil here.

Just cause DD isnt as jacked up about TDK as the majority of you are doesnt mean you need to bust his chops for it. Opinions people!


Now on to what I think of TDK. Wow, this looks damn good! I always had a good feeling about Ledger playing The Joker but the trailer has me even more sold. I dont want to get too carried away but if Ledger lives up to the hype, I could see an Oscar nomination in his future for this role. That would be sweet as hell.

I have to totally disagree with the notion that Butler could pull off the Joker. Maybe Twoface or something like that but not the Joker. The Joker has always been a rather lanky, skinny type of guy. While Butler is a beefed up, rugged GQ looking type of guy. I just dont see it. Ledger on the other hand is PERFECT from what I have seen.

I also liked how suprisingly violent this looks. Most comic book films are sooo cartoony and family friendly while this one looks like you might want to keep little Billy at home with the sitter. LOL:D

[fooknasty]

Ledger's laugh is amazing. It just sounds so sinister.

Also, does anyone else think it was an awesome idea to keep the same music from BB? I loved Zimmer's score, and it was so good to hear it being played again.

[#1dvdfan]

can anyone upload this trailer in wma format for download? please.

[AndrewDB]

Dawg, this aint the imdb. If you want to make personal attacks and name call...go there.

Thank the Creator it's not too...


Just cause DD isnt as jacked up about TDK as the majority of you are doesnt mean you need to bust his chops for it. Opinions people!

Thank you Echo for stating that so wonderfully.

/This is not sarcasm.

[xseanymacx]

Finally does anyone else think it's a little lame when Joker's clapping his hands and they keep cutting away to scenes of destruction after each clap? Once was more than enough, we get it, he orchestrates chaos.

Hmm, different strokes for different folks I guess. I found that to be one of the best parts of the trailer.

[Tweek]

My... God

That trailer brought tears of joy to my eyes

I wasn't the only one?


I went to a 2 pm showing on the 14th (I Am Legend was an adequate movie, by the way. Nothing to phone home about.) I was waiting, cringed through a HORRIBLE Rolling Stones documentary trailer (that was NOT pretty. -shudder-)

Then came the trailer. I peed a little, it was so good. The whole sequence was fantastic!

I'm tearing up just thinking about it. I don't know, I think it was because the thing made me feel like I did back in my early nerd days.

By the way, the glimpse at Ledger's performance sets in stone my love.


Yup.. I've been saying they should of gotten Hugo Weaving (My favorite actor) before I heard Heath, but I'm okay with the fact they went with Heath. I never really had a problem with him to begin with.

Weaving could've been awesome too, I agree.

I cannot fucking wait. Why does July have to be so far? Somebody?