Official UFC/PRIDE Fighting/MMA Thread [Archive] - Page 2

DarkKnight81

08-27-2007, 11:22 PM

I hope this is the next title unification and Fedor's first UFC fight. The only other contender right now is Crocop but I think he needs a few more impressive wins under his belt. Make this happen UFC. Randy Couture may not be the ideal heavyweight but he is one of the big names from UFC and we all want to see UFC's best against PRIDE's. I still think Fedor would come out on top but I wouldnt be surprised if Couture pushed him to the limit and took it to a decision. But someone please explain this to me.

Liddell TKO's Couture twice....Crocop goes to a decision with Fedor...Crocop gets TKO'd by Gonzaga...Couture beats down Gonzaga....so does that mean Liddell could beat Fedor? Not a chance but its weird how this shit happens.

Criminal Rock

08-28-2007, 12:27 AM

mma is like rock-paper-scissors...

Different people, different styles, different gameplan...

DarkKnight81

08-29-2007, 11:57 PM

Lots of good new features on the UFC site. I think Rampage could be in big trouble against Henderson, he seems like a more complete fighter. I like Rampage's style and personality but he wasnt the best in PRIDE and now that UFC has absorbed almost all of PRIDE I think his title reign will be shortlived. If not Henderson, then Shogun, and if he survives that then Wandy will be right there waiting. But i'm gonna predict his days on top are close to being in single digits. Henderson over Rampage.

bourahioro

08-30-2007, 04:29 PM

Source (http://www.ufccountdown.com/news/babalu-cut-from-the-ufc/)

This just came out from mmanews.com:

“Renato “Babalu” Sobral was released from his contract due to the incidents that happened during his UFC 74 bout against David Heath. Dana White again talked about how it would of been worse had Babalu had an arm, leg or ankle. Still, Dana feels the fans turned on him and said he is out of his contract and out of the company due to his actions.”

Babalu is one of my favorite fighters, I understand the UFC's position, but what the fuck?! They could have suspended him and gotten their point across.

Fuck.

Criminal Rock

08-30-2007, 04:55 PM

Well, he did assault the guy... the UFC is trying to maintain a professional and responsible image, it makes them look good to people who don't agree with the sport.

DarkKnight81

08-30-2007, 07:38 PM

Yeah, the guy wasnt going to do much in the lightheavyweight division anyway. Not only should he have been released by the UFC but he should be banned from MMA for a year. For craps sake he choked him until he passed out, you can get brain damage from that.

Darth Kenshin

08-30-2007, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Lots of good new features on the UFC site. I think Rampage could be in big trouble against Henderson, he seems like a more complete fighter. I like Rampage's style and personality but he wasnt the best in PRIDE and now that UFC has absorbed almost all of PRIDE I think his title reign will be shortlived. If not Henderson, then Shogun, and if he survives that then Wandy will be right there waiting. But i'm gonna predict his days on top are close to being in single digits. Henderson over Rampage.

Rampage constantly complains (whenever he has the chance) that PRIDE fighting was fixed and that influenced how he fought and had a negative impact on his record. He always ripped the refs for being against him. Whether or not that's true and whether or not he's a better fighter than his PRIDE career indicates still remains to be seen, but for the most part I agree with you here. The knockout of Lidell was the wildest punch I've ever seen thrown. I used to box, and I found that swing almost comical. I don't know how good he is technically, but he's a great athlete, a strong guy, and he's GREAT for the sport, so I'd like to see him stay on top a bit longer because he has the personality that could make mainstream sports fans take an interest in UFC.

Criminal Rock

08-31-2007, 09:00 PM

Interesting news about Fedor and the UFC!!!! (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=632003)

Criminal Rock

08-31-2007, 09:14 PM

I don't see how the punch was wild... Chuck threw a sloppy left hook to the body and Rampage countered perfectly with Right hook of his own. I mean, the punch was wide, but i've seen boxers throw the same punch...

If it works, it works I guess.

Darth Kenshin

08-31-2007, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
I don't see how the punch was wild... Chuck threw a sloppy left hook to the body and Rampage countered perfectly with Right hook of his own. I mean, the punch was wide, but i've seen boxers throw the same punch...

If it works, it works I guess.

I'm not saying it was a bad punch in that circumstance. I just don't think he's that great a fighter technically. That punch was wide and awkward to me and I'm surprised it landed because I thought Chuck was better than that. Can't argue with results, though, but someone brought up Shogun Rua and there's no way he gets away with a punch like that against a fighter of that calibur. I actually think that he loses to Henderson in a relatively lopsided manner. I think Rampage is one of the 10-15 best mixed martial artists in the world, pound for pound, but there are a lot of better guys from a technical standpoint. I know most people would rate him higher, but that's just my opinion.

As for Fedor... I'll believe it when I see it. It's logical, considering the growing popularity of UFC and the amount of money they can potentially throw at him for a fight with Couture, but egos and politics killed boxing and ruined a lot of great, logical matches, so it wouldn't surprise me if the logical move isn't made here just because of egos and dollar signs.

DarkKnight81

09-01-2007, 12:03 AM

I hope they sign Fedor and give him and Couture a unification match early next year. As for Ramgage I love the guy, but he was probably only the 4th or 5th best lightheavyweight in PRIDE, and now that 3 guys from PRIDE that were better than him are in the UFC, Henderson, Shogun, and Wanderlei, Rampage wont be on top for long. Even worse news for Chuck Liddell who likely wont even be able to get back into title contention, he should lose that gut and drop to middleweight.

unspoken

09-01-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by Darth Kenshin
Rampage constantly complains (whenever he has the chance) that PRIDE fighting was fixed and that influenced how he fought and had a negative impact on his record. He always ripped the refs for being against him. Whether or not that's true and whether or not he's a better fighter than his PRIDE career indicates still remains to be seen, but for the most part I agree with you here. The knockout of Lidell was the wildest punch I've ever seen thrown. I used to box, and I found that swing almost comical. I don't know how good he is technically, but he's a great athlete, a strong guy, and he's GREAT for the sport, so I'd like to see him stay on top a bit longer because he has the personality that could make mainstream sports fans take an interest in UFC.

He complains about Pride a lot, but he got just as many calls for as he did against. Anybody who's seen his fight against Ninja knows who really won that fight.

unspoken

09-01-2007, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Darth Kenshin
Can't argue with results, though, but someone brought up Shogun Rua and there's no way he gets away with a punch like that against a fighter of that calibur.

Can't disagree. Shogun crushed him before and will do it again should they meet down the road

I actually think that he loses to Henderson in a relatively lopsided manner. I think Rampage is one of the 10-15 best mixed martial artists in the world, pound for pound, but there are a lot of better guys from a technical standpoint. I know most people would rate him higher, but that's just my opinion.

Ranking him 10-15 PFP is about right. He's not well rounded like a Fedor, or GSP, or Shogun as he has not much of a sub game (hence why people bitch about my lower than normal ranking of Gomi in PFP too).

About Hendo, if you look at it he's got a great chance. Things to think about:

1. Rampage has proved to be weak in the clinch. Hendo's a Greco specialist.
2. Rampage has typically struggled against faster guys who normally fight at 183/185 (Ninja, Lindland, Bustamante). Yes he got the decision in all those fights, but the Ninja one was complete BS and you could have made a case for both Lindland and Busta winning the fight. He struggled against Lindland's superior wrestling, and Hendo's a better wrestler.
3. Rampage isn't a sub threat, and Hendo's never been KO'd.
4. I know MMA Math doesn't mean much, but Hendo KO'd Wand who KO'd Rampage twice.

DarkKnight81

09-02-2007, 01:17 AM

Is this deal ever going to happen?

In an exclusive comment to CBSSports.com on Friday, UFC president Dana White said that his recent meeting with representatives of Pride heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko did not bring UFC any closer to signing the superstar free agent. When asked how the Emelianenko meeting went, White said "it didn't go well," but declined to discuss details.

"I don't like to talk about contract negotiations with the public -- but it didn't go well," White said. "These guys are crazy."

The complete interview conducted by CBSSports.com contributor Sam Caplan will be published on CBSSports.com early next week.

While White did not give details, he indicated in the forthcoming interview that the meeting was not successful. That contradicted initial reports that people close to Emelianenko thought the meetings went well.

Since then, Emelianenko representatives have indicated to other publications that the negotiations are basically stuck where they've been for months -- with UFC offering big money, but insisting on exclusive rights to Emelianenko.

Emelianenko's camp is said to be happy with the money UFC is offering, but is adamant that Emelianenko must be allowed to fight for other promotions in addition to UFC, particularly in his native Russia.

unspoken

09-02-2007, 02:18 AM

I don't see it happening, from what I've read Fedor's team just wants way too much.

1. All fights guaranteed on a 6 fight deal (with the money they're throwing at him per fight, this could be disaster if by some chance he's a total flop in the UFC)
2. Ability to compete in Sambo (not too bad on the surface, but if he gets injured in that or makes it priority over the UFC, it could lead to problems with scheduling him, especially if he becomes champion)
3. To have UFC's in Russia and have M-1 [Fedor's manager's promotion] co-promote it (no way is UFC going to let someone put their hands in the UFC cookie jar, when the UFC name will be bringing all the dollars in).
4. To have other Red Devil fighters compete in the UFC (this would be the easiest, just throw them on undercard, UFN's or in the WEC).

Darth Kenshin

09-02-2007, 02:51 AM

I just hope politics don't do to MMA what they've already done to Boxing

DarkKnight81

09-02-2007, 12:16 PM

They should just give him less money then. Fedor doesnt strike me as a total prick, he probably doesnt need or want all the cash they are trying to throw at him. Just give him his freedom to compete in Sambo and have his crew around to train with him.

Criminal Rock

09-06-2007, 11:25 AM

More good news about Fedor and the UFC...

clicky (http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=634321)

It looks like MMA weekly took down the page, though...

DarkKnight81

09-06-2007, 02:37 PM

Hopefully there is more to this than selling t-shirts.

Criminal Rock

09-06-2007, 05:39 PM

Well, Fedor IS wearing a UFC sponsored t-shirt...

Athletes usually don't sport company logo's unless they're involved with them somehow...

And thats beside the fact that he'll be AT the next UFC event... Or, at least that's what's rumored...

we'll see on Saturday... ;)

DarkKnight81

09-06-2007, 07:03 PM

Yeah I'm feeling a big announcement, like maybe even a bout with Couture sometime early next year. I just dont see how if the UFC and Fedor were having such troubles that he would be at their event. UFC would be crazy not to sign him and if Fedor honestly wants to prove he's the best fighter ever than UFC is now the place to do that since PRIDE looks to be dead.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/jeremyhuguenin/Fedor.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u114/lilskeeks/i-1.jpg
BRING IT ON!

bourahioro

09-06-2007, 08:43 PM

Okay kids, UFC 75: Champion -vs- Champion this weekend!!

Predictions?

I see Cro Cop coming back strong, and tkaing out Chiek Kongo, However, I'm not too sure on who's gonna win out of Jackson and Henderson.

I'd like to see Rampage take it, but Henderson's really fucking tough too, I mean he took out Wanderlei.

DarkKnight81

09-06-2007, 09:06 PM

Logic would say Hendo because he took out Wandy who destroyed Rampage twice. But I think Rampage has improved since then and Hendo is getting old (dont tell Randy Couture that) and he is fighting underweight. This is a toss up and could easily go either way, technical skills to Hendo, strength and youth to Rampage...i'd put my money on Rampage by decision. Also Crocop redeems himself by destroying Kongo.

DarkKnight81

09-09-2007, 01:40 AM

What the fuck has happened to Mirko Crocop? Last night I got to see the replay of UFC 70 with Crocop against Gonzaga. That head kick was not a fluke, Gonzaga was owning Crocop standing up, took him down, almost knocked him out on the ground, stood back up and laid him out. Then tonight against Congo, Crocop looked frustrated and defeated very early on. I dont know if its just a case of him not being able to fight in the cage, he's been fighting in rings for K1 and PRIDE forever, but the guy is done in the UFC as far as I can tell. I would be shocked if he shows back up unless he has more fights in his contract. The guy is an MMA legend but his career in UFC even in victory has been dissapointing and is most likely over. Congo on the other hand while not very well rounded is a fucking beast, one of the most impressive looking physical specimens I have ever seen in UFC. The guy is tall, muscular, and incredibly fit. Unfortunately for him his ground game is absolutely terrible so Couture would most likely take him down and never let him up.

DarkKnight81

09-09-2007, 02:10 AM

So looking down the road at two different divisions, heavyweight and lightheavyweight, I wonder who the next two contenders will be. I think Houston Alexander should fight Michael Bisping to see who fights Rampage next. I think Shogun will soon be the best in 205 but UFC will make him win a few fights before he gets a title shot. I'd also like to see Kongo take on Antonio Nogeura to decide who gets Couture next.

DarkKnight81

09-09-2007, 02:53 AM

Dan Henderson fought a hell of a fight and I think he'll be back but we all know he put on heavy weight for this fight. He's a natural 185er and I think he should cut weight and go down to middleweight. And did anyone else hear Mike Goldberg say Fedor is going to fight Couture?

unspoken

09-09-2007, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
So looking down the road at two different divisions, heavyweight and lightheavyweight, I wonder who the next two contenders will be. I think Houston Alexander should fight Michael Bisping to see who fights Rampage next. I think Shogun will soon be the best in 205 but UFC will make him win a few fights before he gets a title shot. I'd also like to see Kongo take on Antonio Nogeura to decide who gets Couture next.

As long as Shogun beats Forrest, he gets the next title shot. He earned it damn near 2 years ago by winning the Pride tournament (including a savage beatdown on Rampage in round 1), just wouldn't take it because the champ at the time was his teammate and close friend, Wanderlei Silva.

If Fedor doesn't sign, Nog should get the next title shot, and have Kongo vs. Arlovski for the #1 contender.

I'd like to see Alexander vs. Bisping, but no way are they going to risk Bisping's marketability like that. Bisping lost me as a fan with his post-fight interview remarks tonight, so I wanna see him get KTFO'd badly (and I went in to the fight cheering for him big time). He'll probably get another Elvis Sinosic-like can with a 1-7 UFC record to make him look a lot better than he actually is.

teenkiller

09-09-2007, 05:58 PM

I found last night pretty disappointing. The only one who really had me excited was Marcus Davis with his surprising victory after a near defeat early on in the first round.

Mirko seemed to give up on himself early on in the fight but damn was he seriously outsized. I can't figure out how Kongo didn't have the wear withall to actually finish this fight.

Although I was rooting for Bisping I can't really say I was too happy that he won. I really felt that Hamill took 2 out of the 3 rounds and deserved the victory. However neither of them really lived up to the type of ferocity that I was expecting for a fight like this.

Yet another decision ending fight between Henderson and Rampage. At least this time I agreed with the winner. Again though I was just expecting much more of a battle.

All in all I just thought the night was ho hum. Good thing UFC gave this one away for free. I would have really been disappointed if I had paid for it.

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

DarkKnight81

09-09-2007, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by teenkiller

Yet another decision ending fight between Henderson and Rampage. At least this time I agreed with the winner. Again though I was just expecting much more of a battle.
Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

Are you kidding? I thought this was one of the best fights in UFC in a long time, both guys gave it everything they had and I cant believe no one got knocked out. There was no loser in that match in my opinion, I thought it was a clear draw but no way UFC was gonna let that happen again especially in a title fight.

teenkiller

09-10-2007, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Are you kidding? I thought this was one of the best fights in UFC in a long time, both guys gave it everything they had and I cant believe no one got knocked out. There was no loser in that match in my opinion, I thought it was a clear draw but no way UFC was gonna let that happen again especially in a title fight.

I don't know... I mean I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a big MMA expert but I was seriously expecting a war here. Something brutal considering it was a unification fight. Maybe they held back a little because of how such good friends they are though, maybe not. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

XCoRyX

09-10-2007, 06:13 AM

Really solid night of fighting...Hendo/Rampage was awesome, Hamill should have won that fight,Sakara is a favorite of mine but looked bad against Alexander....hope this isn't the last of him.

Taylor/Davis was fucking SICK...both of these guys are going to be a force at 170 in time.

In regards to the HW/LHW title picture, I see it like this...

HW -
Nog vs. Arlovski for # 1 cntndrship, and also have Kongo face winner of Sylvia vs. Vera for the next shot in line.

If Fedor signs,obviously he gets dibs.

LHW-
Liddell win or lose to Jardine,fights Wandy.

If Machida beats Nak,he gets next shot.But that won't happen.

DarkKnight81

09-10-2007, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by unspoken
As long as Shogun beats Forrest, he gets the next title shot. He earned it damn near 2 years ago by winning the Pride tournament (including a savage beatdown on Rampage in round 1), just wouldn't take it because the champ at the time was his teammate and close friend, Wanderlei Silva.

If Fedor doesn't sign, Nog should get the next title shot, and have Kongo vs. Arlovski for the #1 contender.

I'd like to see Alexander vs. Bisping, but no way are they going to risk Bisping's marketability like that. Bisping lost me as a fan with his post-fight interview remarks tonight, so I wanna see him get KTFO'd badly (and I went in to the fight cheering for him big time). He'll probably get another Elvis Sinosic-like can with a 1-7 UFC record to make him look a lot better than he actually is.

You know, I'll have to agree with you about Shogun as long as he has a decisive win over Forrest. No offense to Griffin but he is heavily overmatched in this fight and Shogun should put him away, if he does and its impressive I think he'll get Rampage next. After all it only took Rampage on win to get a shot at the Iceman. I use to think that Shogun would easily beat Rampage again but Quinton has shown significant improvement and his focus is intense right now so he would train like a madman for Shogun...or Wandy if that ever happens again. If Chuck wins against Jardine, then I think the winner of Liddell and Wandy in December will fight the winner of Rampage/Shogun. Of course those guys need to win their next fights first. And I also agree about Michael Bisping. The guy got beat, the judges stole the match from Hammill and then Bisping starts saying the guy should be out of MMA. At least you have to recognize the guy put on a good fight but you just punk him like that after getting a lucky decision when you got the beating of your short MMA career. Show some respect you fucking hack. UFC wont protect you forever Bisping, eventually you'll have to fight top talent in your division and you wont be given any divisions.

DarkKnight81

09-10-2007, 03:01 PM

Originally posted by teenkiller
I don't know... I mean I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a big MMA expert but I was seriously expecting a war here. Something brutal considering it was a unification fight. Maybe they held back a little because of how such good friends they are though, maybe not. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

The fact that they are friends certainly did make the fight a little weird, at least in the first round. You could see in the stare down that henderson was laughing and tried to jokingly grab Rampage's arm but Quinton was focused again and looked like he wanted to kill Hendo right there. Then as they came out Hendo tried to touch gloves and Rampage wanted nothin to do with it and immediately starting throwing punches. Then after the fight Rampage tried to hug Hendo and he just sort of brushed him off and left the ring. I felt sort of bad for hendo, they are friends, he showed some sportsmanship and Rampage just wanted to rip his head off. I understand its fighting and you have show a killer mentality but fuck man, the guys your great friend. Shake his hand before the fight. I dont know what to think about it but I hope we see Hendo back, he's a fantastic fighter.

XCoRyX

09-11-2007, 08:37 AM

Technically Hendo still has the Pride MW Belt,and thats the division he reigned more supreme in as far as his competitors...he could be one of the very few to give Anderson Silva a run for his money, but i'm not so sure the UFC would put him in 2 back to back title fights.

DarkKnight81

09-11-2007, 02:36 PM

Its hard to see the UFC putting Hendo in back to back title-unification matches but given his excellent performance against Rampage it would not shock me to see him fighting the winner of Silva-Franklin.

XCoRyX

09-11-2007, 06:28 PM

Yeah,if anything let him have a fight with somebody else and have him talk it up about the MW belt,and that can help create the buzz and such.

Darth Kenshin

09-11-2007, 07:45 PM

As a boxing fan, I have to give credit where credit is due. I wish boxing had the kind of cards UFC has. Every fight was interesting, paired up logical matchups, and featured talented fighters. I was wrong about Rampage, I admit. I was shocked to see how well he handled himself on the ground. As others have pointed out though, he's the naturally bigger man, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Overall, that kind of card is what boxing can learn from. No walkout bouts, no worthless undercard that featured undeserved fighters for political/business purposes (as in a big name promoter trying to showcase a young star on the undercard of a major event by putting him in against a punching bag). This is what UFC has over boxing more than any thing else.

DarkKnight81

09-11-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by XCoRyX
Yeah,if anything let him have a fight with somebody else and have him talk it up about the MW belt,and that can help create the buzz and such.

My guess is the UFC wants all PRIDE affiliation gone, that means either the belt will just dissapear or they'll have another "unification" match. He wont go around defending a PRIDE belt. Its sad but PRIDE is dead, I dont care what Dana White says. If they say PRIDE is back it will just be UFC in Japan.

unspoken

09-12-2007, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Its hard to see the UFC putting Hendo in back to back title-unification matches but given his excellent performance against Rampage it would not shock me to see him fighting the winner of Silva-Franklin.

Combine that with the fact, that after the Silva/Franklin fight, the MW division is pretty thin and lacks having a guy who not only is deserving of a title shot, but can also draw in the PPV buys. The only way around that is if they decide to have another big fight on the same card which will help the numbers.

DarkKnight81

09-12-2007, 07:27 PM

Middleweight is thin, and if Hendo wants to stay in LHW, UFC will have to find a new contender. Here are my picks:

1.Thales Leites: Won his last 3 fights, needs to fight a top notch MW and should be next after another win.
2.Yushin Okami: Lost a tough decision to Franklin, one good win and he could be #1
3.Martin Kampmann: 3-0 in UFC, hasnt fought since March, another win under his belt soon could line him up.
4.Terry Martin: 2 impressive 1st. round KO's in his last two fights, a couple more convincing wins needed but he's on his way.

Clearly Dan Henderson is the best candidate. If Rich Franklin loses badly and Hendo stays LHW, the Middleweight division would be by far the weakest in UFC.

bourahioro

09-19-2007, 02:25 PM

UFC 75:

-I really enjoyed watching Houston Alexander destroy his opponent.
-Cro Cop should retire after his contract is up, unless he plans on doing nothing but work on his ground game for a few months.
-Matt Hammill got robbed in a big bad fucking way.
-Rampage -vs- Hendo....that shit was tight, great fight, non stop, and full of great technique - best fight since Couture -vs- Sylvia.

As far as the next PPV goes:
-Liddell will beat Jardine easily; But eventually he's gonna have to fight Alexander, and will be decimated.
-Rua is going to make Griffin cry.

teenkiller

09-19-2007, 03:18 PM

Don't forget guys. Tonight is the premiere of Ultimate Fighter season 5. GO SERRA! Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

DarkKnight81

09-19-2007, 07:09 PM

I hate Serra and Hughes, but I love the Ultimate Fighter!

teenkiller

09-20-2007, 12:16 AM

I caught the last couple fights off of Ultimate Fight Night and they were both interesting. As far as the fight on The Ultimate Fighter... well I think it was pretty obvious who was going to win that one. The kid who got submitted just didn't seem to have any composure during the fight and I think Serra was right. He was just looking for the easy way out. At that point it still seemed like he could outlast the final six seconds of the clock. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

Criminal Rock

09-22-2007, 02:57 PM

God dammit. I hate having to download all the UFC and Tuff stuff because nobody around here gets it.

It's fucking ridiculous.

but anyways, Liddell by pure domination, Shogun by decision, Sanchez by LnP TKO 2nd round, Nakamora by pure awesomeness, Thiago by KO 3rd round...

DarkKnight81

09-23-2007, 02:08 AM

Hey what happened to the sticky for this thread?...Anyway, two huge upsets tonight! Shogun looked out of shape and was gassed in the second round, Forrest beat him in every position and would have won by decision even if he didnt choke Shogun out. Chuck Liddell has been exposed, he cannot beat a good striker, he was being fed wrestlers and jiu-jitsuers(?) when he was the champ and has been beaten by two guys who can box better than him. I'm sure Chuck will still fight Wandy, thats the fight everyone wants. Also on a side note I hate everything about Diego Sanchez, his style, his personality, every fucking thing about him I hate. You lost to Josh Koscheck buddy, what made you think you could beat John Fitch? I just Fitch would have KO'd your dumbass.

Criminal Rock

09-23-2007, 05:43 AM

Is it not Stick-o-fied anymore? That's strange...

I haven't seen the fights yet, so I can't really give my own opinion. Will soon though...

bourahioro

09-23-2007, 10:14 AM

I left the forum as Moderator, and Ricochetshaw took it over, and apparently saw fit to unsticky it....I already emailed him about it, you guys should too. I get the feeling that MMA isn't thought of as a legitimate sport 'round here. But this is one of the top posted in forums, and I think it deserves the sticky. PM and email him, and I'm sure it'll be fixed.

Criminal Rock

09-23-2007, 02:45 PM

Woah, I can't believe it, my predictions were terrible. That's pretty funny... In any case, I am very pleased to see both Keith and Forrest win their fights. Good for them.

teenkiller

09-23-2007, 02:52 PM

Fucking unbelievable. My friend and I were talking last night about how Jardine didn't stand a chance against Chuck. I mean he only won by a split decision but that is still a lot more than I expected out of this fight. Glad that Forest was able to garner another victory and that Sanchez was dealt a loss. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

Criminal Rock

09-24-2007, 11:04 AM

For those of you who care, Nick Diaz is in the hospital for a severe staph infection...

He checked into a local hospital right after he got home from his EliteXC fight in Hawaii.

Hopefully he recovers soon.

And hopefully the UFC gives him a second chance soon after. ;)

teenkiller

09-24-2007, 11:29 AM

Yeah that would be cool. I liked Nick Diaz. He made for a good villain. I was rootiing for him all through the Sanchez fight. Man that was brutal. Both of those guys walked out as bloody messes. I just kept waiting for referee stoppage. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

RicochetShaw

09-25-2007, 04:31 PM

Stickied once more! Sorry guys, at first I was having trouble doing any admin options. I stickied/unstickied stuff, just as a test,and most of it didn't work AT ALL at first. I think this one became unstickied well after (at least a few minutes) I tested it, and I never saw it go through. All's fixed! If anything else happens, please let me know.

Thanks
-Ric

DarkKnight81

09-25-2007, 07:27 PM

Looks good, thanks. On a side note, Wanderlei Silva has said he is dissapointed in Chuck Liddell and has instead challenged Forrest Griffin to avenge Shogun's loss. If this were to happen in December it would all most certainly be a #1 contendership bout. Rampage is nursing an injured hand thanks to Dan Henderson's cement chin and probably wont be fighting until March.

bourahioro

10-03-2007, 07:00 PM

Man, I am STOKED!! I've done various martial arts training, but never had the chance to do BJJ, well a new BJJ studio JUST opened 10 minutes away from me, and they also have an MMA course....I'm going for it! Anyway, just wanted to tell you cats the good news.

:D:eek::D:cool:

teenkiller

10-03-2007, 09:58 PM

Congratulations dude! Maybe in a couple more years we'll be seeing you on The Ultimate Fighter... Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

DarkKnight81

10-11-2007, 08:16 PM

Wow, what a 24 hours in MMA. Fedor has signed with a Russian based MMA promotion called "M-1." Consequently, Randy Couture has quit the UFC and will sooner or later probably sign a one fight contract just to fight Fedor. He says this is the last thing he has to prove.

bourahioro

10-13-2007, 08:52 AM

Randy quit?! When did this happen?!

Criminal Rock

10-14-2007, 11:44 AM

I figured this would happen if Fedor didn't sign with the UFC...

Darth Kenshin

10-21-2007, 07:26 PM

Randy ain't getting away that easily. I expect a long, ugly legal battle. Let's just hope politics don't bastardize the sport the way they have ruined boxing.

bourahioro

10-25-2007, 10:30 PM

So the PPV last weekend was cool, I honestly didn't expect Rich Franklin to get beaten again by Silva, at least not as badly as he did. I expected Tim Sylvia to win, but that fight was kinda lame.

DarkKnight81

10-27-2007, 08:14 AM

Chuck Liddell vs. Wanderlei Silva is officially set for December 29th. While this fight doesnt have the significance it would have say, 2 years ago, I still cant wait to see it. The only bad thing is Dana White saying the winner of this fight is the number one contender for LHW. Both guys are 0-2 in their last few fights and one of them is going to fight for the title? Give me a break. Guys like Lyoto Machida, Houston Alexander, and Forrest Griffin all deserve a shot before Chuck ever does. By the way, who in the world is going to beat Anderson Silva?

bourahioro

10-27-2007, 08:21 AM

well...I planned on kicking Silva's ass myself tomorrow, but I figured it would be an unfair fight, since he's likely still worn out from beating the shit out of Rick Franklin;)

Criminal Rock

10-30-2007, 08:00 AM

Jeremy Williams vs Lennox Lewis

Judo/Boxing

Pretty funny.

http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21271

bourahioro

11-01-2007, 06:12 PM

Anyone see the press conference that Lorenzo Fertitta, and Dana White had this week? Apparently, Couture was WELL paid for his last two fights, after his contract negotiation, including a PPV buy in, equalling almost 3 million dollars; And Couture quit? Weird.

Anyway, White's saying that he's gonna offer Couture a fight with Nogueria for the new year, and is hoping he'll take it.

DarkKnight81

11-02-2007, 02:36 PM

EliteXC is attempting to set up a Frank-Ken Shamrock showdown. Both these guys are past their prime, Ken has been for ten years, but I'd still love to see this fight.

bourahioro

11-02-2007, 06:40 PM

LOL, that'd be a good fight either way...imagine:

Frank: "I told you not to touch my fucking videogames, Ken!"
Ken: "They're mine!"
Frank: "No, MINE!"

LIVE ON PPV, THE BATTLE FOR THE BIGGER ROOM!!

ok, admittedly, that was kinda weak, but fun to write nonetheless.

Criminal Rock

11-02-2007, 08:53 PM

Correction... KEN is past his prime... FRANK is probably one of the most underrated fighters in his division.

DarkKnight81

11-02-2007, 10:11 PM

Correction... KEN is past his prime... FRANK is probably one of the most underrated fighters in his division.

Underrated? Frank is widely considered one of the very best middleweights of all time and speaking of his prime, its been 8 years since he last fought top talent in the UFC. I still think he'd woop Ken's ass but Frank aint exactly what he use to be either.

Darth Kenshin

11-07-2007, 10:39 PM

So the PPV last weekend was cool, I honestly didn't expect Rich Franklin to get beaten again by Silva, at least not as badly as he did.

Henderson/Silva. It has to happen. It's obvious Henderson isn't a natural light heavyweight. He can easily drop down to middle, and that would be the 2008 fight of the year. MMA always prides itself on getting the best fighters against each other with little hassle. Make it happen.

DarkKnight81

11-08-2007, 07:22 AM

Henderson/Silva. It has to happen. It's obvious Henderson isn't a natural light heavyweight. He can easily drop down to middle, and that would be the 2008 fight of the year. MMA always prides itself on getting the best fighters against each other with little hassle. Make it happen.

So true. Unfortunately Hendo has already turned down the offer and says he wants to stay at 205. I'd rather see him take on Silva but he had a hell of a fight with Rampage so I can see why he doesnt feel the need to drop weight.

DarkKnight81

11-13-2007, 06:38 PM

The UFC has offered AWOL Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture a title defense fight against Antonio "Minotauro" Nogeuira. My guess is UFC will let him out of his contract if he takes the fight win or lose. I think this is the best scenario for Randy, he could go out fighting one of the toughest heavyweights ever and would then be free to move on to whatever he wants. Probably Fedor.

bourahioro

11-17-2007, 07:17 PM

I'm not gonna get into the entire card, but this is how I see things:

Houston Alexander -vs- Thiago Silva: Houston Alexander by KO in R2
Michael Bisping -vs- Rashad Evans: Rashad Evans by decision
Spencer Fisher -vs- Frankie Edgar: Spencer Fisher by TKO in R2
Ryo Chonan -vs- Karo Parisyan: Ryo Chonan by Submission in R3

Thoughts?

DarkKnight81

11-17-2007, 09:53 PM

I've only got two hopes for this PPV, Houston Alexander knocks out Thiago Silva's arrogant ass and Michael Bisping and Rashad Evans both simultaneously KO each other.

HHH123007

11-18-2007, 12:02 AM

UFC 78 SPOILERS

Hopefully the Houston Alexander love-fest is over...time to study some ground work, buddy.

unspoken

11-18-2007, 05:05 AM

Underrated? Frank is widely considered one of the very best middleweights of all time and speaking of his prime, its been 8 years since he last fought top talent in the UFC. I still think he'd woop Ken's ass but Frank aint exactly what he use to be either.

And his next opponent, another hand-picked sacrifice, Cung Le. Le's San Shou is extremely impressive but he's got limited cardio, no ground game, and is small for 185.

unspoken

11-18-2007, 05:06 AM

HHH123007

11-18-2007, 10:58 AM

Unless Henderson is dangerously close to retiring, this is a horrible idea. Hendo needs a win back after losing to Rampage. I know there's no guarantees in MMA, but having Henderson lose two times in a row as an introduction to the UFC "fans" is a bad thing in the long run.

Any casual watcher of the UFC will then know him as the guy who lost both of his belts without winning and stop caring immediately. Lame.

DarkKnight81

11-18-2007, 12:30 PM

Well here's thing, Hendo's contract was a carry over from PRIDE and it only had two fights remaining on it, the first of which he lost to Rampage effectively eliminating the PRIDE 205lb. belt. The UFC has not been too happy with Hendo between his whining for a rematch with Rampage and turning down opponents like Tito Ortiz and anyone else he doesnt deem worthy to fight him. Rumor has it the UFC had no intention of resigning him as they have made it clear they're not too concerned about having the top talent as they are having guys that show up and fight whoever they tell them too. So if this Middleweight unification thing is true I'd be very shocked, unless the UFC has had a change of heart and signed a new deal with Hendo it would be disasterous to have him show up to a new orginization with their belt. If Dana did annnounce this they must have resigned him, they've stopped top contenders from getting title shots if they have less than two fights remaining on their contract. Now if this is true, bring it on, these are two of the very best fighters in any weight class and even in losing, Hendo showed the UFC fans a lot, he pushed the fight and pushed Rampage to his very limit and he'll do the same against Anderson Silva and win or lose the fans will love him for it. UFC fans dont hate losers, they hate people who lay and pray, just ask Sean Sherk.

unspoken

11-18-2007, 03:08 PM

I think they re-signed him. Because now, Sokoudjou is with the UFC as well, who is out of Hendo's Team Quest Temecula camp. Sokoudjou was first supposed to have signed with Elite XC, then K-1, but maybe the agent(s) for the camp got both guys better deals to sign with the UFC.

Sokoudjou vs. Machida on Dec. 29 should be fun to watch.

DarkKnight81

11-18-2007, 06:19 PM

Sokoudjou vs. Machida on Dec. 29 should be fun to watch.

Yeah that will be good, and thanks to the piss poor performance of both Rashad Evans and Michael Bisping last night, there is a good chance this is the #1 contenders fight for the LightHeavyweight championship. That is unless of course Wanderlei dominates Chuck.

DarkKnight81

11-18-2007, 08:52 PM

bourahioro

11-18-2007, 10:03 PM

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10025

He did sign a contract extension so that explains it. This has fight of the year written all over it. Both of these guys are warriors and wont go down easily. I'm taking Dan Henderson by KO in round 2.

I'll second that... Silva is really fucking good at what he does, but he hasn't had an opponent like Henderson in a loooong fucking time....Don't get me wrong, Silva coming from Chutte Boxe (Sic?) and having that rush of confidence from having kept the middleweight title for so long will help him as an aide to his skill....But Henderson will want this way more I think. I think Henderson NEEDS this. His fight with Rampage was astronamical, but we saw what happened, and though it was the right thing (rampage winning), it was disappointing to see Henderson lose at the same time.

Silva will have his hands full.

bourahioro

11-26-2007, 12:40 PM

Matt Serra has herniated discs in his back, and cannot compete against Matt Hughes at UFC 79....what a fucking RIP...I wanted to see Hughes destroy Serra, especially after all the shit talking Serra's been doing for months.

DarkKnight81

11-26-2007, 02:38 PM

Yeah that does suck but they have replaced the fight with Hughes vs GSP for the interum belt, the winner getting Serra whenever he gets healthy. I dont know who I want to win, I like GSP alot more than that piece of shit Hughes but I also want to see Hughes-Serra. I guess we'll see. If there ever needed to be a three way fight this is it.

chasingbanky

11-26-2007, 04:29 PM

I'm happy to hear Hendo resigned. He's great and I'd like to keep getting chances to see him live. I'm glad he turned down a Tito fight since I think Tito is garbage and that a fight like that wouldn't aide Hendo in anyway. Sliva v Hendo is going to be great.

bourahioro

11-26-2007, 09:50 PM

I like Hughes...He's kind of a bible thumper, and has an ego...but seriously...if your fight record was 43-5-0, you'd have an ego too.

I WANTED to see him pound the shit out of Serra, and I think it's bullshit that he has to fight GSP for the right to get at Serra....the Hughes/Serra fight was practically carved in fucking stone....if they're gonna get Hughes and GSP to fight, it should just be a fight, not a fight for a shot at Serra, he already had that.

Serra has run his fucking mouth for months now, about how Hughes is a dick, and he hates him ,etc, etc....I didn't mind Serra before that, now I think HE'S a dick, because he couldn't shut his mouth about Hughes for months... And now Hughes gets robbed for his shot....don't get me wrong, I think Hughes can beat GSP, and I'm certain he can beat Serra, but seriously.

The plus is: Hughes can break the tie, he and GSP have (I think it was a tie, wasn't it, like a win for each of them).
The negative is: Serra's gonna run his mouth some more, while he recouperates.

DarkKnight81

11-27-2007, 07:26 AM

I was looking forward to Hughes-Serra as well, and if I was ever going to root for Hughes to win it would be now. But the fact of the matter is Dana White proposed the idea to Hughes and he accepted. He could have taken a few months off as well and fought Serra next year but he did whats good for the sport and for the fans and took a fight that is definitely not a "gimme." GSP whooped his ass last time but I think Matt Hughes will come in much more focused and determined this time.

bourahioro

11-29-2007, 10:00 AM

I read somewhere that White may offer Couture a shot at Rampage Jackson, which would obviously mean that Randy would have to cut weight....I dunno if it's true or not, but it's be quite the fight, and I honestly don't know if Randy could take Jackson.

DarkKnight81

11-29-2007, 02:38 PM

I heard something similar but it was that Dana offered him a title defense against Antonio Nogeura but Couture would rather fight Rampage. I guess Couture wants to be a double champion but given he walked out on them once they wouldnt risk him doing it with two belts.

bourahioro

11-29-2007, 04:13 PM

DarkKnight81

11-29-2007, 07:44 PM

Yeah, I'd heard the Nogueria offer too, but yesterday I heard that White was offering a bout with Jackson. I dunno, I can't picture it, I mean Couture's awesome, but IF he fought Jackson, could he take him? I'd actually bet against Couture on that one. But it could go either way.

In the cage, Couture could beat anyone in the world on any given night. Unfortunately Rampage is also an excellent wrestler which is usually how Couture beats people...so I'd give the slight edge to Rampage but Randy wouldnt go down with out giving Rampage a good fight. I wish Randy would just stay Heavyweight. He has a much better chance of beating any of those big ogres than he does dropping into a stacked light heavyweight division.

Criminal Rock

12-02-2007, 09:21 AM

The first reported death in MMA in America...

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=675848

bourahioro

12-05-2007, 06:59 PM

"Big" John McCarthy is holding a press conference this Friday, with some sort of HUGE announcement concerning his future (or lackthereof) with the UFC - Rumors are flying that McCarthy wants a better salary than he's currently receiving, as well as a longer contract - the kicker...The UFC aren't biting, they may have already let him go, seeing as he wasn't officiating the last UFC PPV.

DarkKnight81

12-05-2007, 08:42 PM

Yeah I think he's retiring. Unfortunate because we'll have to put up with Steve "Stupid Mustache" Mazzagatti and Herb "I like to change the outcome of fights" Dean. John is the best ref in MMA period and it sucks if he's leaving.

bourahioro

12-05-2007, 11:10 PM

I couldn't agree more - John McCarthy is the ONE constant in the UFC, and the best Ref, he doesn't fuck up - Dean's not terrible, Mazzagatti lets people get away with nut-shots all the time.

bourahioro

12-07-2007, 07:20 AM

Tomorrow night's the Ultimate Fighter Finale. The main bout is Mac Danzig against Tommy Speer, BOTH from Team Hughes (in your face, Serra, you arrogant fuck). Anyway, who do you see winning? I'm rooting for Danzig.

DarkKnight81

12-07-2007, 07:24 AM

I see Mac winning, he's won all his fights so easily and just seems to be on another level but Tommy has got a lot of heart and determination so it should be a damn good fight. Matt Serra on the other hand has to feel like an idiot. First he has to drop out of his fight after he talks all this shit and now both Matt Hughes fighters make it into the finals. Woops.

bourahioro

12-08-2007, 11:13 AM

QUINTON "RAMPAGE JACKSON, AND FORREST GRIFFIN TO COACH TUF SEASON 7!!

A source on Sherdog who attended the SpikeTV Video Game Awards show At the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino (To be aired tomorrow night on SpikeTV) reported that Dana White Announced Rampage and Forrest to coach this next season's Ultimate Fighter series, leading up to a title shot for forrest!

-This is insanely good news, and this will no doubt be the funniest, and most entertaining TUF season ever! I feel bad for Forrest though, because at the end of the season, he'll have his ass handed to him by Rampage.

DarkKnight81

12-08-2007, 03:43 PM

So wait, Rampage wont be fighting anybody until after the next season of the Ultimate fighter? THats like 6 months!!! He hasnt fought since September which means he'll have a 9 month lay off. I love the idea of this fight but really he should have to fight in February and then again at the end of TUF. I'm shocked Forrest is getting the title shot, I figured they'd wait to see if Wandy wins and give it to him.

bourahioro

12-08-2007, 07:57 PM

Rampage's hand still isn't fully healed, and Forrest is still injured too, coaching is less hands on, especially since each coach has a team either brought in with them, or assigned to them - this way BOTH guys can rest up, and get better, while doing something productive - working up to a title shot for poor unfortunate forrest (who'll likely end up brutalized).

I wasn't too keen on the idea myself, but then I thought about those factors, and it made more sense.

- In other news: Big John McCarthy's last ref job will be on tonight's Ultimate Finale - He'll then be working for the Fight Network as an analyst and commentator.

DarkKnight81

12-08-2007, 09:09 PM

I know Rampage has a broken hand but I thought the rule was a champion has to defend their title within an 8 month period, if he fights at the end of the TUF7 that would put him around 10 months. So unless Dana White makes an exception for the sake of television ratings Rampage would have to defend his belt in early 08. I love the idea of a Rampage/Griffin fight but fuck the UFC needs to stop having their title belts gathering so much dust. I know Randy quit, Sherk got suspended, Rampage is hurt, but the welterweight division is stacked and there is a huge line of title contenders growing...Hughes, GSP, Karo, Fitch are all legit and now Serra's hurt. This is MMA and shit happens but it seems like Anderson Silva's the only one holding it down but he also happens to be in the weakest division where he has little competition. Injuries happen so Rampage and Serra are acceptable but I'm sick of champs taking steroids, for fucks sake Sean Sherk we can see it running through your huge vains. Your a fucking champion and you know you get tested. Use your fucking head. And Randy Couture you're a legend, so you dont get to fight Fedor, then call him out, but dont quit, you're not going to be fighting him any time soon either way. There is a man named Antonio Rodrigo Minotauro Nogeuira whos pretty damn good waiting to take a shot at you. I'm sorry for ranting but these people are champions and need to act like it or the UFC needs to strip them.

teenkiller

12-09-2007, 02:20 AM

Amazing showing from all the fighters tonight. Ha ha. Dorian Price, Blake Bowman, and Paul Georgieff must be feeling down. Out of fifteen fighters they're the only ones who didn't get to fight on the finale.

What a finale it was though! I was rooting for George Sotiropoulos to win the whole thing. Unfortunately he got eliminated last week but he did great against Billy Miles tonight. Hope we get to see more of him.

I'm glad that little fuck Richie had another loss. Without even being influenced by Mac Danzig's opinion about him something about that dude just rube me the wrong way. Congratulations to Troy there.

Jared and Koppenhaver! Oh man, that was intense. One of the best fights I have seen. Kudos to War Machine for being able to pull through and come out with the victory. I was rooting for him. Not that Jared was any slouch though. Tremendous showing from both of these guys.

Arroyo and Kolosci was also decent but I wasn't really having any doubts about Arroyo winning. He seemed like the more technically sound fighter and while John is showing improvement with each fight he was definitely outclassed. I was rooting for Matt but if John had won I wouldn't have been disappointed.

Ben Saunders vs Dan Barrera unfortunately unfortunately had to go to decision again but this time at least it wasn't controversial. I hate Ben but I thought it was pretty clear that he won. He's another guy that just rubs me the wrong way. Cause he's always smiling through his matches. I think he's just trying too hard. This was the only match that didn't go in my favor.

Both Danzig and Tommy Speer had won my respect and while I was thinking Speer was going to win I was hoping it would be Danzig. Hooray for me! I couldn't believe the outcome though. After seeing Speer's prior performances I just couldn't believe he had been manhandled so quickly. Submitted two minutes into the first round? It didn't look like the Tommy Speer we had seen in the last three fights.

I had never heard of Roger Huerta or Clay Guida before so I didn't know what to expect from this fight. It was certainly intense! It was up there along with Koppenhaver/Rollins for the fight of the night. Guida was monstrous! I mean the dude never seemed to tire. Quick as shit and always comin at ya! Huerta really surprised me in the third round though with his very decisive win. I have a feeling both guys will have a great career in the sport though.

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

DarkKnight81

12-09-2007, 12:29 PM

Great event, KO's and tapouts galore. I cant believe how easily Mac handled Tommy, I think the nerves may have got to him because he looked lost out there. Cant wait for December 29th.

bourahioro

12-14-2007, 06:53 PM

Watch Spike TV tomorrow night, kids...It's the UFC'S Best of '07 show....should be awesome, I expect to see Alexander/Jardine, Silva/Alexander, Jackson/ Liddell, Couture/Sylvia, Silva/Franklin and tons more!

I'm as stoked for this as I am most PPVs.

DarkKnight81

12-16-2007, 05:14 PM

Looks like Couture is going to sit out until October and then fight Fedor. Thats a long time to wait for a fight especially when you're 45 years old like Randy.

chasingbanky

12-16-2007, 06:22 PM

Looks like Couture is going to sit out until October and then fight Fedor. Thats a long time to wait for a fight especially when you're 45 years old like Randy.

Source please.

DarkKnight81

12-16-2007, 06:50 PM

Source please.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5285&zoneid=2

chasingbanky

12-16-2007, 07:17 PM

Nice. Sylvia v Nog is going to be for the title then I guess. Hopefully Mir beats Lesnar and we get a Nog v Mir HWC match. That'd be good.

bourahioro

12-17-2007, 09:29 PM

HAHAHAHAHA....So I was at training tonight, and we were doing drills, and I got to Rampage slam a guy, like right up in the air and plowed him into the mat with my shoulder down, and feet in the air.

Just thought that was cool, and wanted to share.

Criminal Rock

12-17-2007, 10:01 PM

Haha, nice..

The only "slam escape" i've done was a year ago at the AZ combat challenge, I ended up in my opponents half-guard where I attempted a leg-sweep to kneebar. Half way into the sweep I suddenly remembered that kneebars are illegal and the ref would disqualify me if I attempted it. In any case, he ended up taking my back with one hook in grabbing a hold of my neck, I stood up and "fell" on his head, flipping him over and ending up on top.

Slams are illegal in bjj tourny's, but I got away with it as it looked like I just fell over on him...

Fun stuff.

Were you rolling or were you just drilling?

bourahioro

12-18-2007, 06:37 AM

Rolling:)

I train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and MMA so I have a pretty good fight groove going on (aside from stuff I'd already trained in).

I got my new fight (board) shorts last night too, so I was really in the zone, I got a pair of black Tapout board shorts with the inch thick white cuff at the bottom of the left leg, and Tapout embroidered on both sides... I'm jacked....I'm gonna take pics this week or next, also my training school got their new shirts in; On the front it says "Fighting solves everything" - or something like that, and on the back is the fredericton Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Academy logo.

I should have my Blue Belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu this fall.

Criminal Rock

12-18-2007, 12:38 PM

You have 4 stripes on your white belt? that's pretty good...

How long have you been doing BJJ for? Who are your instructors?

bourahioro

12-18-2007, 04:30 PM

I've been doing it for awhile now, almost a year I think; My instructors are Dana Dickeson, and Fabio (I can't remember his last name) he's right out of Brazil though, and I rarely train with him.

Criminal Rock

12-18-2007, 04:48 PM

must be Fabio hollanda... he's the only BJJ instructor that i know of around Montreal. Never heard of Dana though. Does he partially own the gym with Fabio, or is he a student of the guy?

bourahioro

12-18-2007, 06:35 PM

I think you're right...and yeah, Dana is a student of his, we train with him, then in the Fall we're travelling to Montreal to get judged/graded/awarded. We get stripes here, and travel for the change of rank. I've only trained with him like twice...but he's cool, and very to the point - he's shown me a few things that I wouldn't have thought of to gain momentum in the mount.

chasingbanky

12-18-2007, 07:48 PM

bourahioro

12-18-2007, 08:28 PM

It whips you the fuck into shape, and teaches you new things about the fight game that you may not have ever thought...I've done other forms of training, and BJJ is by far the best I've done...I also take MMA training as well. And in the new year I'm going to add a Thai Boxing element to my regimen. - My schedule:

Monday - BJJ, MMA (an hour and a half each, back to back)
Tuesday - BJJ
Thursday - BJJ
Saturday - BJJ, and then free mat time for rolling.

Sometimes I go in on Wednesdays for Submission Wrestling.

chasingbanky

12-18-2007, 08:48 PM

Yeah I believe it. I usually just lift and play basketball, but now that its been so cold I haven't really done much of anything. I'm a lazy bum in the winter. In 08 I will get into something though. That's going to be my resolution or whatever now that I think about it.

bourahioro

12-19-2007, 04:08 AM

The Chute Boxe Academy has announced that Murilo “Ninja” Rua along with younger brother Mauricio “Shogun” Rua have left the famed Brazilian institution to pursue their own team in the United States. Chute Boxe head master Rudimar Fedrigo issued a statement today on the Chute Boxe official website confirming the departure of the Rua brothers. In the statement, Fedrigo expresses his sadness in seeing both Ninja and Shogun leave. However, he wishes them all the best in their future endeavors and reminds them that the doors to the Chute Boxe Academy shall always remain open for them.

This means Chute Boxe has lost:
Anderson Silva
Wanderlei Silva
Thiago Silva
Shogun Rua
Ninja Rua

CRAZY losses for Chute Boxe.

DarkKnight81

12-19-2007, 04:45 AM

Chute Boxe training worked well in PRIDE but it doesnt in the UFC. For one it was very violent and they trained in soccer kicks and stomps which are illegal in the UFC. Secondly PRIDE fighters typically have more stand up fights and while all Chute Boxe fighters claimed to be black belts in BJJ, you never saw it. A lot more fights in PRIDE stayed on their feet so the wild and aggressive kicks were more effective but as we've seen you're more likely to be taken down in the UFC. I wonder if Shogun and Ninja will join Wanderlei at Ultimate Couture.

Criminal Rock

12-19-2007, 06:53 AM

Reading about you guys training is making me jealous. In Vegas I have all the resources to getting into the game at my fingertips, but for some reason I've yet to commit myself to giving it all a try. I think a lot of it has to do with me not wanting to travel across town three times a week, but that's a shite excuse. BJJ has interested me for the longest time. Just seeing you guys talk about it makes me want to hit the mats.

To be honest, training takes up A LOT of your time and money... dedication and a good financial situation are A MUST of you really want to get into the game. after two years of Jujutsu and Judo, I switched over to BJJ and Thai Boxing, and did that for two years. I trained four days a week, every week for about four years total (except when I had to work, of course)... spent maybe $130 a month the entire time.

Adding it all up, thats about 6 grand... but it was totally worth it.

I can't train right now since I'm in England and I have no money... But I'll start up again when I move back, or if I can find a full-time job I was invited to train with Neil Grove (the big half-naked white guy in my picture collection) I might just end up doing that.

Anyways, point being, just be prepared to invest yourself in this. If you're not going anywhere for a couple of years and if you have the funds, then I say do it.

If you need help finding a BJJ club in your area, cause' there are shit ones to watch out for, i'm sure the people here (me included) are more then willing to help out.

DarkKnight81

12-19-2007, 11:27 AM

I'm in college and I work full time which leaves me almost zero time for anything else but as soon as I finish school I'm going to start taking some sort of martial arts class. I'd really like to take MMA but we dont have any schools for that in my area. My other two interests are kickboxing and jiu jitsu which if you combine the two you've got a fairly solid MMA foundation. I dont want to fight but I want to get into great shape and my friends are too lazy to work out and I hate doing it by myself. I'm not worried about the money, I would spend about the same getting a gym membership but this way I have people pushing me.

bourahioro

12-19-2007, 01:18 PM

Well let me tell you, BJJ and MMA training will get you in awesome shape...I've been doing this stuff for awhile, and my cardio STILL isn't where it should be... You work EVERY muscle, and it's a non stop workout from the time class starts, until it finishes.

MMA training is even more intense than BJJ, my class starts out with running, then a series of drills, stretching, and exercises, then three, five minute rounds of hard shadowboxing...the instructor will randomly yell at us to sprawl, so you drop into the sprawl, and are RIGHT BACK UP, and followed by an immediate thai knee...then back to hard shadow boxing, and random stuff is yelled out, like "on your backs!" so you drop into a break-fall onto our backs and RIGHT BACK UP, followed by a thai knee; other times he'll yell for us to sprawl and stay for 25 pushups, then you're back up, and you guess it...thai knee; he yells for GnP so you drop to a mount position on the ground, and punch the mats hard 15 times, other times he'll yell for crunches, or ten hard thai knees.....doesn't matter, when you're done whatever he tells us to do, we automatically have to be shadowboxing, and moving around...and an automatic thai knee as soon as we come up from the ground......
So yeah, 3, 5 minute rounds of that with a 1 minute break in between....non stop (this obviously simulates an MMA fight)

then we go from that to some technique training, and practises, and light soarring/rolling near the end of class.

I get a wicked deal for my training - $65.00/month.
Though I have bought a loads of stuff by Tapout, Fairtex, and Gameness, not to mention the Atama Gi I'm getting.

bourahioro

12-20-2007, 01:12 AM

X-Mas goodness!!

My ex wife bought me a couple of awesome gifts this year (we get along great)...so I figured I'd share:

My new Tapout board shorts!
http://images.tapout.com/method=get&rs=27&q=75&x=-14&y=-125&w=293&h=349&ro=0&s=BS001-01.jpg

My new Tapout fitted hat!
http://images.tapout.com/method=get&rs=27&q=75&x=-5&y=-137&w=293&h=349&ro=0&s=HF004-01.jpg

And I ordered a Tapout T-shirt for my 7 year old (he wants to fight like his dad;) )
http://images.tapout.com/method=get&rs=14&q=75&x=-6&y=-110&w=293&h=349&ro=0&s=B484D18F-F2DD-EC3A-107CD60549F5CACB.jpg

cool shit if I do say so myself:)

Criminal Rock

12-22-2007, 03:17 PM

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=10499

Saturday, December 22, 2007
by Sherdog.com Staff

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is discussing a deal with billionaire Mark Cuban that could put the best boxer on the planet in a mixed martial arts bout.

If an agreement is reached, Mayweather would join HDNet Fights, Cuban's fledgling MMA promotional arm, ESPN reported Friday.

"Floyd is considering fighting with HDNet Fights," Cuban told ESPN.com. "We are going to let him visit some gyms to talk to some folks about what it would take to learn. He knows it won't be easy. But he is getting involved with MMA and HDNet Fights one way or another. He is pumped about it. He wants to go on to the next big thing. Floyd is a brilliant marketer. He follows the money."

The undefeated Mayweather, a five-division world champion regarded as one of the purest pugilists in boxing history, stopped English challenger Ricky Hatton on Dec. 8 to retain his welterweight title.

Cuban and Mayweather, who struck up a friendship during the taping of ABC's "Dancing with the Stars," met Thursday in Las Vegas to discuss a possible role for the boxer with HDNet Fights.

According to ESPN.com, Leonard Ellerbe, a close Mayweather associate, said a move from the sweet science to MMA is something that seriously interests the boxer.

"When Floyd makes his move, obviously it's going to be a mega event," Ellerbe told ESPN. "We don't have a timetable. Floyd is taking some time off, but Floyd understands what is involved. You have to take time to go out and understand what you're getting involved in, and he's ready to do that."

Mayweather, 30, was part of two events in 2007 that generated 3.25 million pay-per-view buys and $200 million in revenue. A defeat of Oscar de la Hoya in May broke PPV records with 2.4 million subscriptions. In all, Mayweather made $50 million for his bouts with de la Hoya and Hatton.

"If I said there's a guaranteed $30 million payday, Floyd would be lacing them up," Cuban told ESPN.com. "If not, I could see him working to train and develop and invest in MMA fighters, knowing the upside. He can teach them how to be a better boxer and add to their other skills."

Should he decide to compete in MMA, Mayweather would immediately become the best boxer to test himself in that arena. Others such as Francois Botha (Pictures), Art Jimmerson, Melton Bowen and James Warring fared poorly in their respective MMA efforts.

Mayweather would likely compete in MMA's 145-pound featherweight division, which is currently dominated by WEC champion Urijah Faber.

This is good news for MMA, and even worse news for Boxing.

inglourious basterd

12-22-2007, 10:25 PM

I dont consider myself an expert in boxing or MMA, but I don't think that Mayweather will transition for multiple reasons:

1) MMA can't afford him. He's the top ticket for the sport of boxing. Yes -- he'll definitely sell a shitload of seats if he crosses over, but he could make a lot more by doing what he's doing. He's already making upwards of 20-30 million a fight.
2) Mayweather isn't suited for it. While it's true that he's a world-class athlete, his talents in the boxing ring don't necessarily translate well into the MMA ring. His famous defense is only useful for dodging punches. Take away his defense by adding kicks and submissions and you're taking away an integral component of his gameplan.
3) Can an old dog learn new tricks? I'm sure he can. But would he want to? As a fighter that has openly been thinking "retirement", will he start training for a completely new sport? He has a lot to learn. And if he chooses to seriously commit to this sport, then he wont be taking his huge prize fights any longer.
4) What does he have to prove to people? What does he have to prove to himself? If he chooses to transition to MMA, then he has to figure this out for himself. He's already complaining about his body being torn apart. Does he want to subject his body to more abuse in the Octagon? I think not.

DarkKnight81

12-23-2007, 01:40 PM

This is just a ploy by Mark Cuban to get more people to watch HDNET fights. Floyd, as good a boxer he might be, any MMA fan knows you cant just all of the sudden start fighting. If he gives himself a year or so he might be competitive but this is a joke.

bourahioro

12-24-2007, 11:31 PM

I think Mayweather should stick to boxing, it'd take a long time for him to learn MMA, and get his ground game to where it should be....he'd get destroyed if he rushed it. Look at Cro Cop for a good example of someone whose ground game blows, he's sucked bad in the UFC because he has zero ground game, and rished into an enviornment where ground game is extremely important.

bourahioro

12-27-2007, 04:59 AM

Am I the only MMA fan I know with any common sense?!

everyone I know thinks Chuck Liddell is gonna kick Wanderlei's ass....
I think Wanderlei's gonna make short work of Chuck.

I also think Matt Hughes is gonna beat GSP badly.

DarkKnight81

12-27-2007, 07:26 AM

That's the problem with MMA, there is no room for common sense. History says that Wanderlei should destroy Chuck, but in his last two fights Wandy has been KO'd badly and we all know it only takes one overhand right from Chuck and it could be lights out. My money is still on Silva but Chuck has a puncher's chance against anyone. I'm not sure how it's common sense that Hughes should beat GSP considering GSP gave Hughes that ass whooping of his life in their last fight. I mean BJ may have choked him out in the first round but GSP made Matt Hughes look like a sorry old man. I think it will be a closer fight this time but I'm still taking GSP.

DarkKnight81

12-29-2007, 11:27 AM

UFC 79 almost got started a day early yesterday at the weigh ins. First, James Irvin head butts Luiz Cane and they had to be seperated immediately. Then Wandy and Chuck got into it. First Wandy didnt take hist shirt off while being weighed, but then as Chuck approached for the staredown Wandy took his shirt off and got in Chucks face, at the end of the staredown Wandy headfaked Chuck so Chuck flipped him off. Wandy got pissed and tried to come after him. It's all just hyping the fight though because I saw an interview with Chuck the other day and when they asked him about the fight about Wandy he said he thinks he's a good guy, they dont really hate each other and its the fans want the fight so bad, not them. Honestly Chuck looked like he didnt want to be there yesterday and now he says shit like this while on the other side Wandy looked pumped and has been talking a lot of trash. Could Chuck just be a little nervous??? Here's the weigh in video:
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video

Criminal Rock

12-29-2007, 12:27 PM

If Chuck's going to KO Wandy, it'll happen sometime late in the first round or early second. Though if Wand can get past it in one piece I say his chances of knocking out The Ice Man vastly improves.

We'll find out tonight for sure... :)

DarkKnight81

12-29-2007, 04:51 PM

I think Wand vs Chuck is too close to call. I think it all comes down to Wands training and gameplan. We all know what Chuck is gonna do, he's gonna bait Wand to come in and Chuck's gonna back up and throw off his back foot. I think if Wand takes the same approach as Rampage and Jardine he'll take the center of the octagon and wait for Chuck to come to him. This is how Chuck has lost two in a row, because people are smart enough not to chase him and run into a brick hand. Wand on the other hand is confident in his own abilities I'm sure and will probably come right after Chuck aggresively and risk the danger. It will be interesting to see how Wand approaches the fight. I'm taking GSP over Hughes even though I fear GSP has become a little overconfident and only had half the time to train for this fight, I know he's ALWAYS training but I still think he would have trained harder and longer had he known he wasnt fighting Hughes a few months ahead of time. But he is still superior to Hughes, GSP over Hughes via uninamous decision.

DarkKnight81

12-30-2007, 01:21 AM

TOTAL DOMINATION. GSP. Holy crap that was as dominant a performance as I've ever seen. I dont know what's next for Hughes, I still think he'd fair well against Matt Serra but does he really want to wait 8 months to fight him? Hughes is probably the best welterweight ever but he looked like a fish out of water tonight. It might be time to hang it up. Good fight from Liddel/Silva, just about all we could ask for minus a KO. Now a fight I would love to see after tonight...Chuck Liddell vs. a very impressive Lyoto Machida.

bourahioro

12-30-2007, 05:47 PM

I was soooo disappointed by last night's main fights, I thought for sure that Wanderlei was gonna destroy Chuck. Hughes/GSP was a coin toss, but I wanted Hughes to win...fuckin' blah!

Criminal Rock

12-30-2007, 06:16 PM

I was pretty sure GSP was going to win... as well as Machida...

I wasn't too sure about the Wandy/Chuck fight, though. I saw Wandy winning by decision, but I know Chuck (as we all do), and didn't take him for granted. I sort of played it safe on that one.

In any bag, I pretty much got what I wanted out of yesterday's fights. I didn't want to see Chuck or Wandy KO'd, because I didn't want to see either of them booted out of the UFC... Hughes lost, and Machida won...

It was a good event, for sure.

Now on to FEDOR VS CHOI!!!!!!

WAR FEDOR!!!!!

DarkKnight81

12-30-2007, 07:43 PM

After GSP beats Serra and gets his belt back I want to see him fight John Fitch.

bourahioro

01-06-2008, 07:39 PM

Does anyone know if UFC 80 will be free since it's taking place in the UK again? I'm hoping so, but for some reason I'm having doubts.

Criminal Rock

01-06-2008, 08:02 PM

From what I've been informed, you have to pay.

It sucks to since the card is, well, you know... not that great.

Personally, I download them afterwards. I have to since I don't own a TV or know anyone who does AND also watches MMA. :S

I dont like doing it to be honest, I don't like downloading anything, if I had a television I'd buy the PPV's in a heartbeat.

DarkKnight81

01-07-2008, 02:43 AM

According to UFC.com, UFC 80 is pay per view which sucks considering the card aint that great. TMJ, my advice is to find a local sports bar that's airing it.

Criminal Rock

01-07-2008, 06:38 AM

For UFC 80 that makes sense since it's here in England... are the PPV's usually reruns when they show em' over here? The only reason why I ask is because watching it live would mean I'd be watching it at like 2 in the morning.

bourahioro

01-07-2008, 07:07 AM

Jesus...That's a good question. Have you thought about trying to get to a live UFC event there?

Criminal Rock

01-07-2008, 07:33 AM

That'd be pretty kick-ass, but I don't have the time nor do I have the money to do something like that...

DarkKnight81

01-07-2008, 11:53 AM

The PPV's take place at a normal time in the UK, they air live on the east coast here and then tape delayed on the west coast. Which sucked because I ordered the Rampage-Hendo fight in England, than unknowingly went on Sherdog.com where they had already made their headline, "Rampage wins."

bourahioro

01-09-2008, 11:27 AM

Man, that'd suck being near a place where a UFC PPV was being held and not being able to go....I live in atlantic Canada, we get NOTHING around here...though there are rumors that the UFC PPV with the GSP, and Serra fight are coming to Montreal. I am so fucking there, if that's the case.

DarkKnight81

01-09-2008, 12:23 PM

While it's not confirmed to be in Montreal, Matt Serra has publicly stated he'll be ready so I'm sure Dana White will be pushing his hardest to have GSP win his belt back in Canada. UFC is also trying to get a Cinco De Mayo PPV in Mexico City, likely to feature fighters like Tito Ortiz and Roger Huerta. I'd like to see more PPV's outside of Las Vegas. Those casino event center hold very few people. For craps sake there was only 10,000 people to see Liddell-Silva. If they put that fight in Brazil it would have sold 10x that much.

bourahioro

01-14-2008, 05:33 PM

Okay kids, this weekend, UFC 80 Rapid Fire...predictions?

Gonzaga -vs- Werdum: I have Gonzaga on this one
Penn -vs- Stevenson: I'd like to say Steveson, but gotta go with Penn

the saw is family

01-14-2008, 06:39 PM

Okay kids, this weekend, UFC 80 Rapid Fire...predictions?

Gonzaga -vs- Werdum: I have Gonzaga on this one
Penn -vs- Stevenson: I'd like to say Steveson, but gotta go with Penn

gonzaga vs. werdum-i'm probably leaning a bit more towards gonzaga in this one. pretty much on the basis of recent performances. on the other hand werdum already has a win over gonzaga, but it was by tko from strikes which isn't his style at all. if gonzaga comes in in shape and doesn't gas he should win, but if it gets into the third round and gonzaga gets worn down werdum could pull off a sub.

penn vs. stevenson. bj by rear naked choke round 2. it's an ok match up, stevenson is kind of like penn style wise(bj's striking is alot better though) penn's jiu jitsu is pretty much incomparable to anyone else in the ufc lightweight division. joe will put up a good fight in the first round but i think bj will get to him in the second and win by sub.

DarkKnight81

01-14-2008, 11:41 PM

Gonzaga and Penn come out on top. Look for a Gonzaga vs Nogeira match down the road.

bourahioro

01-15-2008, 12:26 PM

DarkKnight81

01-15-2008, 01:12 PM

Rashad's luck will run out. He's rumored to be fighting Thiago Silva in May who will expose him for the overrated piece of shit he is.

the saw is family

01-15-2008, 01:16 PM

I don't know if I've mentioned this before...but I really don't like Rashad Evans...I think he squeaks by with the bare minimum of talent, and should have lost the decisions against Tito, and Bisping...Anyway, I don't like him: And I came across this on Sherdog, which I laughed at for like 20 minutes.
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9281/therashaddance0px.gif

Remember when Matt Hughes said he didn't like Rashad because of his showboating? Well I maintain that Rashad wasn't showboating, he was gassed, and was acting like a fucking retard, because he had no idea what to do given that situation...man I hate Rashad.

i'm not a huge rashad fan either. in all reality he did lose the decision to tito it was tito's fence grab that cost him a point and which made the result a draw. i think he did beat bisping though, i'm not fan of bisping either(his gift decision against hamill and shitty attitude after didn't help). to me rashad is more complete than bisping, bisping has good strikes and decent bjj. rashad has excellent wrestling and ok strikes. so imo if you compare the two rashad comes out by a bare minimum. i do think bisping has done the right thing by moving to middleweight. i'd like to see rashad face somebody with a good sprawl just to see how he does when he can't rely on his wrestling so much.

bourahioro

01-15-2008, 02:50 PM

Rashad's luck will run out. He's rumored to be fighting Thiago Silva in May who will expose him for the overrated piece of shit he is.

I cannot wait to see Rashad -vs- Thiago...Thiago is going to beat him like a redheaded step-son.

chasingbanky

01-15-2008, 03:15 PM

Rashad > Tito/Bisping

Everyone else > Rashad...

Its like you say, he does get by on the bare minimum of talent, but what does that say about a guy like Tito who stooped as low as to go racist ( a classless act) in pre fight talk, and still couldn't do anything to phase him? Tito is supposed to be one of the greats, but he's really just a piece of shit who ducked all the good fighters he could as he held onto his little title.

DarkKnight81

01-15-2008, 04:04 PM

the saw is family

01-15-2008, 08:59 PM

Tito was once a great fighter, but back, neck, and knee surgery will destroy anyone. He is washed up and still hung with a very young wrestler. I will say that Rashad deserved that victory. If you say Tito lost because he held the fence and lost a point, what would have happened if Tito didnt hold the fence? He would have been taken down and who knows where it would have gone from there. I dont like Rashad and when he fights a complete fighter he'll be dealt his first loss. With the LHW division stacked the way it is you can only run from competition for so long. Bisping should do well at MW, he was an out of shape overweight LHW. Too bad Anderson Silva's in that division too.

true enough about the tito fence grab, but you could also say that if time hadn't run out in the 2nd round rashad could have been choked out, tito had that guillotine locked in tight. bisping will do alright i think at middleweight, i see him losing to anderson silva, dan henderson, rich franklin and quite possibly yushin okami though.

DarkKnight81

01-20-2008, 03:33 PM

Criminal Rock

01-20-2008, 06:08 PM

I figured Gonzaga was going to lose, though to his credit he gave Werdum a run for his money with those freakin' leg kicks. Fucking ouch!

And even though I was pulling for BJ (haha... pulling for BJ...), I thought Joe would've put up a better fight then he did. Wasn't expecting such a beating.

the saw is family

01-21-2008, 11:45 AM

Well Gonzaga made me look like an idiot, but I knew BJ would come through and annihilate Joe Stevenson. BJ is now going to face Sean Sherk in May and Werdum will probably get the first shot at the Nogeuira/Sylvia winner. I'd really like to see Liddell vs Machida but it looks like Tito Ortiz will be fighting Lyoto Machida. Not sure who that leaves for Chuck, maybe Shogun?

from what i'm hearing they might be setting up a chuck vs. jardine rematch. i think machida vs. chuck would probably not be an exciting fight and almost a guaranteed loss for chuck, they're both counter strikers and machida is very elusive, i could see machida winning a unanimous decision.

DarkKnight81

01-21-2008, 02:25 PM

I hate rematches so quickly, I think Jardine is ahead of Chuck on listy of contenders and should fight Machida for number one contendership. If the UFC gives Chuck a rematch so quickly its just saying to Jardine "you got lucky and were gonna give our guy a chance to redeem himself." I think Machida deserves the shot before Forrest, but if you cant be funny you cant get a title shot.

bourahioro

01-21-2008, 03:25 PM

I don't think that Machida is even on the list of contenders just yet. I think that there are sooo many in the LHW division now, that someone should have a more impressive W/L record in the UFC before getting that; Look at people like:
Alessio Sakara (16-6-1)
Wanderlei Silva (31-8-1) - yeah I know he lost to Liddell;)
Thiago Silva (11-0-0)
Chuck Liddell (21-5-0)
Dan Henderson (22-5-0)
and as much as I don't like him:
Forrest Griffin (15-4-0)

As far as I'm concerned, records speak for fighters, and I know some of these guys lost their last fights, and some I don't think deserve their shot (Griffin), but I think that if you're going to fight for the Light Heavyweight title, you should have a really impressive fight record, and even in the cases of some, you should have more than one fight in the UFC EVEN with your impressive record. I like Rampage Jackson, but do I think that he deserved the LHW title shot after ONE fight in the UFC, no. Do I think he's a really awesome LHW champion, yes... I dunno, bottom line for me, is that you should put in some time, and a few fights in the UFC before being a contender for the top prize in ANY weight division.

DarkKnight81

01-21-2008, 04:48 PM

How can you say Machida is undeserving and then talk about impressive records??? Is 12-0, 4-0 in the UFC, and destroying highly ranked Sokoudjou not an impressive record??? You have Thiago Silva who has fought lesser opponents and has one less win in the UFC! Alessio Sakara is 3-3 in the UFC and is dropping down to middleweight! Wanderlei Silva just lost his THIRD fight in a row, and is an unimpressive 1-3 in the UFC. Chuck Liddell lost two fights in a row, so with one win he gets a title shot!!! Dan Henderson was the last person to lose to Rampage and is now in the Middleweight division.
Forrest Griffin out of all the people on your list deserves the shot, he beat the #1 ranked LHW in the world, injured or not. I still think Jardine is ahead of Forrest, he KO'd Forrest in the first round and then beat Chuck up for 3 rounds. But to completely ignore Machida is ridiculous. Not only is he 12-0, but the guy looks almost invincible, he comes out of all his fights unscathed. And for Rampage getting a title shot so quick, Chuck Liddell asked for that fight in his quest to avenge all his losses.

DarkKnight81

01-21-2008, 04:56 PM

And by the way, the list of fighters to decline fights with Machida continues to grow.
-Jason Lambert
-Keith Jardine
-Forrest Griffin
And the last to duck fighting Machida...Tito Ortiz.

Chuck Liddell wont duck anybody, give the winner a title shot.

bourahioro

01-21-2008, 05:48 PM

the saw is family

01-21-2008, 09:58 PM

You do bring up some good points, I hadn't seen Machida fight in the UFC before his bout with Sokoudjou, which is why I had assumed he'd only fought once...his list of people not wanting to fight him is impressive as well. As far as Forrest goes, I just don't like the guy, I think he has a bigger ego than Matt Hughes, and an air of cockiness about him.

Ortiz *was* good, now he's a joke...And I doubt highly that Liddell will ever get the LHW belt back.

I knew that Hendo was dropping to middleweight, but used him as an example. I didn't know that Sakara was dropping too.

Regardless, I still don't think Machida deserves a title shot yet. Is he in contention? possibly, but I don't think it's warranted yet.

machida is the shit for real. he's 4-0 in the ufc, and prior to being in the ufc had win's over rich franklin (ko win) bj penn(decision) and stephan bonnar(not a great fighter but solid) i think he's stylistically the most well rounded fighter in the lhw division, and if given the opportunity will be the lhw champ by the years end.

the saw is family

01-21-2008, 10:04 PM

You do bring up some good points, I hadn't seen Machida fight in the UFC before his bout with Sokoudjou, which is why I had assumed he'd only fought once...his list of people not wanting to fight him is impressive as well. As far as Forrest goes, I just don't like the guy, I think he has a bigger ego than Matt Hughes, and an air of cockiness about him.

Ortiz *was* good, now he's a joke...And I doubt highly that Liddell will ever get the LHW belt back.

I knew that Hendo was dropping to middleweight, but used him as an example. I didn't know that Sakara was dropping too.

Regardless, I still don't think Machida deserves a title shot yet. Is he in contention? possibly, but I don't think it's warranted yet.

also one more thing why do you think forrest has such a big ego? imo he's never been anything but a self-effacing humble guy, he's never trash talked an opponent before or after a fight, and he's never over-hyped himself or his skills. not trashing your opinion just wondering why you think that.

DarkKnight81

01-21-2008, 11:39 PM

http://www.thefightnetwork.com/news_detail.php?nid=6048
Looks like Ortiz reconsidered...I think its somewhat of a bad fight for Machida, for one Ortiz will try to lay and pray him and he does Machida is suddenly off his hot streak, but even if Machida wins people will just say Ortiz is washed up. Either way, Tito's ego is bigger than his head, talking about he'll never get a title shot again because Dana White hates him. He'll never get a title shot again because he fights to a boring draw with the likes of Rashad Evans. Good riddens.

chasingbanky

01-24-2008, 04:21 PM

Anyone see Burkman/Swick? I thought that first round was awesome. Burkman came out with some crazy video game moves, but the fight slowly declined towards the finish.

the saw is family

01-24-2008, 04:30 PM

Anyone see Burkman/Swick? I thought that first round was awesome. Burkman came out with some crazy video game moves, but the fight slowly declined towards the finish.

i watched it, thought it was a pretty lackluster fight on what was overall a pretty lackluster card. burkman should have just came out swinging after having his takedown's repeatedly stuffed. swick did the absolute bare minimum to win that fight, not sure how much of a facor if any he's gonna be at 170. imo one of the worst ultimate fight night's yet, the line up for the april ultimate fight night looks amazing though.

chasingbanky

01-24-2008, 04:50 PM

i watched it, thought it was a pretty lackluster fight on what was overall a pretty lackluster card. burkman should have just came out swinging after having his takedown's repeatedly stuffed. swick did the absolute bare minimum to win that fight, not sure how much of a facor if any he's gonna be at 170. imo one of the worst ultimate fight night's yet, the line up for the april ultimate fight night looks amazing though.

Who's on that card?

Yeah the overall show sucked, but that one round really had me going. I think Burkman got screwed in the end, but its true that going back to the takedown that wasn't working is what killed him ultimately.

the saw is family

01-24-2008, 11:29 PM

Who's on that card?

Yeah the overall show sucked, but that one round really had me going. I think Burkman got screwed in the end, but its true that going back to the takedown that wasn't working is what killed him ultimately.

confirmed fights so far are kenny florian vs. joe lauzon and stephan bonnar vs. matt hamill. soon to be confirmed karo parysian vs. thiago alves, clay guida vs. samy schiavo, spencer fisher vs. marcus aurelio, din thomas vs. josh neer, tommy speer vs. anthony johnson. pretty stacked card for an ultimate fight night.

bourahioro

01-30-2008, 08:17 AM

UFC 83 is coming to Montreal on April 19!!

the main fight is Matt Serra -vs- Georges St.Pierre

I am so fucking going!!

unspoken

01-30-2008, 05:11 PM

confirmed fights so far are kenny florian vs. joe lauzon and stephan bonnar vs. matt hamill. soon to be confirmed karo parysian vs. thiago alves, clay guida vs. samy schiavo, spencer fisher vs. marcus aurelio, din thomas vs. josh neer, tommy speer vs. anthony johnson. pretty stacked card for an ultimate fight night.

You can add Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin to that list. It will be televised along with Bonnar/Hamill, Lauzon/Florian and Alves/Parysian

DarkKnight81

01-31-2008, 11:53 PM

UFC 83 is coming to Montreal on April 19!!

the main fight is Matt Serra -vs- Georges St.Pierre

I am so fucking going!!

Rich Franklin is fighting Travis Lutter as well.

the saw is family

02-01-2008, 10:06 AM

Rich Franklin is fighting Travis Lutter as well.

that fight was canceled. unfortunately franklin is injured and won't be back until summer, possibly june.

DarkKnight81

02-01-2008, 05:02 PM

If you thought Chuck vs. Wanderlei was good this could be even better!!!
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5604&zoneid=2

Shogun: "I will avenge Wanderlei's loss. I can strike with Chuck and I will beat him there, no problem.

DarkKnight81

02-01-2008, 11:57 PM

I could hardly recognize Frank Mir at the weigh ins, he looks like he did 3-4 years ago. I'm definitely watching this, Mir and Minotauro by submission.

a7xfan

02-02-2008, 07:47 PM

i know it was on for the US last night (saturday), and probs is still ongoing, but it aint on in the UK till tonight (sunday), so dont spoil it for me ok. my predicitons for the main event, well the one i am looking forward to the most.

frank mir vs. brock lesnar

- mir wins 2nd round (submission)

i really have a difficult time seeing lesnar taking mir down, it just dont look like it could happen

Frank the Tank

02-03-2008, 12:18 AM

Brock may have lost, but he still looked really good especially for this being only his second MMA match. The sheer dominance he showed pounding Mir down and the crowd being into him after the loss shows that he has potential as his inexperience showed and he got caught with the kneebar. I think he will be a big star for UFC once he works on dealing with submissions.

DarkKnight81

02-03-2008, 01:07 AM

Great event overall, I saw everything I wanted. Wonder how the UFC feels now on passing Fedor Emilianeko for Brock Lesnar? Happy for Nogeuira and Frank Mir.

a7xfan

02-03-2008, 08:52 AM

omg, could u guys not have put a spoiler alert at least.

its ruined for me now, christ

Criminal Rock

02-03-2008, 09:00 AM

Spoiler alert? In the sports section???:confused:

chasingbanky

02-03-2008, 12:23 PM

Spoiler alert? In the sports section???:confused:

You can't be saying that sports can't be spoiled are you?

Criminal Rock

02-03-2008, 12:58 PM

Kinda sorta. I implied it for sure, but i guess it can be depending on the person...

But nonetheless, entering a thread dedicated to MMA and nothing but, it's pretty much a given that there are going to be people talking about the outcome of recent events, and knowing this, if you haven't seen the most recent event in MMA this thread is the LAST place you want to be in terms of said "spoiler content".

Just like how you shouldn't visit sherdog, or UFCjunkie, or MMAweekly... It's relatively the same thing in my opinion.

*shrugs shoulders*

Perhaps thats just me.

DarkKnight81

02-03-2008, 02:29 PM

I'm not going to not talk about an event that already happened. If you dont want to be spoiled then use common logic and dont come on the forums.

bourahioro

02-03-2008, 05:41 PM

I agree...If a person doesn't want something they haven't seen spoiled for them, they should make sure to see the event when it happens, or wait until they HAVE seen the event, to go to a forum or website dedicated to said sport.

a7xfan

02-04-2008, 07:43 AM

yeah, my bad guys, i was fucking stupid coming into the ufc thread. i dont know what i was thinking, sorry.

anyhow i watched it and i think brock lesnar showed a bit of talent, and looks like he could be good in the ufc, but he really has to work on his submission defence, there were several times mir, nearly got him in an armbar, and he finally got the kneebar to win.

i am gladd that noguera (correct?) won, i hate sylvia, but i think he was a bit lucky with the gullotine.

overall, decent event, nothing special

the saw is family

02-04-2008, 09:27 AM

pretty good event. i'm getting a little burnt out on tyson griffin though. the guy has all the ability in the world but he can't finish a fight lately. his last 4 fights have gone to a decision. almeida's comeback was great, i figured he would win but he looked damn good doing it. hopefully he can build himself up into a threat against anderson or henderson whoever's holding the belt after the next event.

marquardt looked strong again, horn is and always will be a game opponet for anyone. brock looked like a beast, he's gonna cause alot of problems for alot of people in the heavyweight division. if it were up to me i would have him train exclusively on his jiu-jitsu and sub defense, it definetly needs work. i think they should match him up with the loser of the heath herring check kongo fight thats happening at 82.

mir was solid again, he held on through a pretty brutal start and used his one solid advantage to win the fight, hopefully mir can keep this up. he's a class guy and i wish him the best. maybe they'll put him in for a rematch with sylvia next. nog and sylvia was what it was, classic minotauro, the man is a living legend. he's endured beatings like the one he took on saturday against cro cop and bob sapp in pride and did the same thing, stayed in, fought, survived and pulled off the submission victory. he's one of my all time favorites and i was really happy to see him win, hopefully he can put up a few title defenses. don't like sylvia at all, but he was more aggressive and impressed me this fight hopefully in future fights he puts it all out there again and is more entertaining.

DarkKnight81

02-04-2008, 01:16 PM

that fight was canceled. unfortunately franklin is injured and won't be back until summer, possibly june.

Guess again, it was confirmed at the press conference yesterday. Its on the UFC website as well.

the saw is family

02-05-2008, 08:51 AM

Guess again, it was confirmed at the press conference yesterday. Its on the UFC website as well.

you are correct sir!!! earlier reports were that franklin was going to be out for awile, glad to see that fight is still on.

bourahioro

02-05-2008, 05:50 PM

Glad to see Franklin back in the octagon - I think he'll take out Lutter - as far as the middleweight title, I can't see him getting it again, Silva destroyed him twice, and if Hendo beats Silva, you KNOW Franklin isn't getting it from him.

DarkKnight81

02-05-2008, 11:35 PM

I think Franklin has a better chance of beating Hendo then he does Silva. That's not to say I dont think Hendo can beat Silva. Man I cant wait for that fight.

the saw is family

02-07-2008, 05:14 AM

I think franklin would give hendo a pretty tough fight. to me it would come down to (as it has recently with franklin) to how he managed hendo's clinch. hendo isn't on the same level as silva when it comes to striking in the clinch, but he's not far behind, and hendo uses the clinch to set up his takedown's alot. i think stylistically franklin can't beat silva so if he were to re-capture the middleweight belt it would have to be from henderson, but even then he'd have a tough fight. i'd give franklin about a 40% chance against henderson.

Cosimo

02-07-2008, 05:53 PM

I heard Kimbo was barred from ufc. Anyone know why? A Kimbo v lesnar fight would have been hilarious. Any news on Kimbos next fight?

the saw is family

02-07-2008, 06:24 PM

I heard Kimbo was barred from ufc. Anyone know why? A Kimbo v lesnar fight would have been hilarious. Any news on Kimbos next fight?

kimbo isn't barred from the ufc, they just have zero interest in signing him. if he builds a name for himself in exc (where he fights now) and maybe gets a few quality wins i could see the ufc possibly signing him. his next fight is against tank abbott. it's on the 16th of this month and airs on showtime that night. the card has some other good fights on it as well, with ricco rodriguez fighting antonio silva, yves edwards vs. edson berto and james thompson making his exc and u.s. debut, pretty decent card for a non pay per view event.

DarkKnight81

02-07-2008, 11:56 PM

the saw is family

02-08-2008, 10:18 AM

If Kimbo is successful enough in EXC and wants to come to the UFC he will be there. As for Franklin-Lutter. I think Franklin will take this fight, a lot of people think that because Lutter did better against Anderson than Franklin did that Lutter will defeat Franklin. I dont think so. Lutter's BJJ matches up well against Anderson while Franklin wants to stand and strike with the guy which is a real bad idea. However, Franklin can and will keep the fight on its feet and will KO Lutter in the second round. I still think Franklin is the third best middleweight in the world, behind of course Anderson and Hendo who will decide who's the best at 185. The only thing I worry about is Hendo is a better fighter at 205, the weight he cuts seems to take a lot from his power and endurance. Hopefully he can come up with a better way to cut weight that wont affect him. Word is that GSP wants to possibly move up to MW because until someone beats Anderson Silva, he's the best pound for pound fighter in the world, a title GSP wants.

good assesments, i think franklin will beat lutter too. i don't think he'll ko him though i'll think it'll be a convincing unanimous decision. the lutter/silva fight is the most overhyped fight ever, nobody mentions that anderson was coming off of having his knees scoped 8 weeks prior. people make such a big deal out of lutter taking him down that fight, the only reason was because anderson wasn't at 100%. if you look at silva's takedown defense in his next fight against marquardt (who's a better takedown artist that lutter) he proves that the lutter fight was just an off night. I think hendo is going to give silva a hell of a fight, but i think silva weathers the storm and wins by tko in the 4th round, with that said though it wouldn't be shocking if hendo won. i think if gsp keeps up his winning ways he could move up to 185 maybe sometime in the second half of 2009.

the saw is family

02-12-2008, 05:52 AM

change to the ultimate fight night card in april, bonnar is out tore his lcl he'll be out six months. no replacement to fight hamill has been announced.

DarkKnight81

02-12-2008, 01:12 PM

That sucks, I was really looking forward to that fight.

DarkKnight81

02-13-2008, 04:54 AM

http://www.mirko-crocop.com/?id=4&solo=87

Well looks like Mirko was tired of getting beat down in the UFC and his contract has been terminated so he can compete in a second rate organization in Japan. Crocop will always be a legend for what he accomplished in K1 and Pride but not being able to cut it in the UFC will forever smear his legacy. Have fun fighting easier competition Crocop.

the saw is family

02-13-2008, 09:34 AM

from what i've heard he was asked to take a pay cut by the ufc. which is kind of shady, but i cna understand it since he definitely has not lived up to what they are paying him. i would have liked to see him fight a couple more times in the ufc though. i've always liked cro-cop but truth is he always has been and always will be a one-dimensional fighter. he couldn't adapt to the size of the octagon and i think mentally he was off his game after the gonzaga loss. it'll be interesting to see what he does back in japan no idea who they could match him up with though.

the saw is family

02-13-2008, 10:10 AM

tim boetsch is replacing stephan bonnar at the april fight night. he man-handled david heath at ufc 81. also for anyone who reads this today, if you have vs. there is a great wec event on tonight three titles on the line.

DarkKnight81

02-13-2008, 04:34 PM

the saw is family

02-13-2008, 05:05 PM

I dont get Crocop, it seems like some sort of pride issue, not pun intended. The guy just seemed unmotivated even in victory and never really wanted to be there. Why? Who knows. The cage excuse pisses me off. Rampage Jackson, Anderson Silva, and Big Nog all fought for a long time in a PRIDE ring, none of them have complained about the octagon and they all hold belts. If the pay cut issue is true, that is shady by the UFC. But I think in the end Crocop wanted out and the UFC wanted his shitty attitude and poor performance out the door too.

he did seem unmotivated. honestly i think he bought into his own hype coming into the ufc. he was coming off of his victory in 06 absolute grand prix, and he(and alot of people in the mma community) thought he would come into the ufc and walk right through the heavyweight division to the belt. which at the time really didn't seem that far fetched. then gonzaga happened and he openly admitted he was not training in an octagon and was not training for elbows(and it was the elbows that gonzaga put on him that set him up for the high kick) he just got out worked and got his rib broken in the second round against kongo, and that was it for him. i don't think the octagon thing is a proper excuse but it is a reason as to why he didn't have alot of success it's such a big space he isn't able to cut the area off and stalk his opponents which is what made him so successful in PRIDE and K-1. he did end up being a bad investment for the ufc and i'm not surprised the ufc decided to cut him loose. he signed with DREAM the new japanese organization which is owned by feg. it should be an interesting organization they are already planning a lightweight and middleweight grand prix which is the one thing i miss the most from PRIDE.

unspoken

02-13-2008, 06:51 PM

10 minute first rounds?

Knees to the head of a downed opponent?

Screaming lady introducing fighters?

Takada beating a gigantic drum in a diaper?

I can't fucking wait. JZ vs. Aoki has Fight Of The Year written all over it, and that Lightweight Grand Prix is going to be sick.

DarkKnight81

02-13-2008, 11:33 PM

How many different org's are there now? UFC, WEC, M1, Bodog, Elite XC, KOTC, Dream, Yarenokka!, HDNET. I guess the more fights the better.

unspoken

02-14-2008, 12:12 AM

How many different org's are there now? UFC, WEC, M1, Bodog, Elite XC, KOTC, Dream, Yarenokka!, HDNET. I guess the more fights the better.

UFC and WEC are both Zuffa Owned. Elite XC and KOTC (along with Cage Rage, ICON, and I think Spirit MC) are all under Pro-Elite ownership.

Bodog is no longer hosting their own fights, just sticking their name on other organization's shows. Very small ones at that.

Yarenokka and K-1 Hero's combined today to become DREAM.

If the things being said about M1 recently are true, they either won't be around, or they'll become a laughing stock. They are going to co-promote with DREAM though so Fedor vs. Crocop 2 is a possibility.

HDnet fights isn't going to be anything, and I wouldn't doubt that they'll fold it now that HDnet has picked up IFL, Strikeforce, MFC, and a few other orgs in TV deals.

the saw is family

02-14-2008, 07:08 AM

UFC and WEC are both Zuffa Owned. Elite XC and KOTC (along with Cage Rage, ICON, and I think Spirit MC) are all under Pro-Elite ownership.

Bodog is no longer hosting their own fights, just sticking their name on other organization's shows. Very small ones at that.

Yarenokka and K-1 Hero's combined today to become DREAM.

If the things being said about M1 recently are true, they either won't be around, or they'll become a laughing stock. They are going to co-promote with DREAM though so Fedor vs. Crocop 2 is a possibility.

HDnet fights isn't going to be anything, and I wouldn't doubt that they'll fold it now that HDnet has picked up IFL, Strikeforce, MFC, and a few other orgs in TV deals.

you're dead on about M-1 the only fighters they have is fedor and some of the others from red-devil fight club. i don't think they'll ever really host a show most likely just co-promote with other orgs. it looks more and more likely that if the randy vs. fedor fight is going to happen it's gonna be in aring and not a cage which definitely plays heavy in fedor's favor.(i think he would win in a cage too, but more dominating in a ring)

unspoken

02-14-2008, 02:52 PM

the saw is family

02-14-2008, 06:33 PM

M1 may already be done. There's rumours out there that there has been a bunch of infighting going on between the Russians and the Americans from day one, and that right now, the Americans are trying to raise the cash to buy the Russians out. The only thing is, if the Russians go, does Fedor go with them.

Oh yeah, that and their recent fantastic idea. There was a trailer on their website about a reality show they might be doing... a sixteen man tournament, the winner gets to fight Fedor. Now THAT'S a joke.

wow didn't hear the rumor about the reality show, thank god that most likely won't happen. hopefully fedor starts facing some stronger competition soon, he's the greatest fighter that ever lived and i wanna see him fight some top tier fighters. hopefully before his mma creer is over we can see him fight randy, josh barnett, sergei kharitonov, antonio silva, andrei arlovski and maybe a rematch with cro cop if he can pull it together.

DarkKnight81

02-14-2008, 11:39 PM

Anybody catch WEC the other night? Pretty good show, lots of finishes, new champions. The UFC also screwed up their UFC 82 ad by saying Keith Jardine was fighting. Whoops, somebodies fired.

the saw is family

02-15-2008, 08:24 AM

Anybody catch WEC the other night? Pretty good show, lots of finishes, new champions. The UFC also screwed up their UFC 82 ad by saying Keith Jardine was fighting. Whoops, somebodies fired.

wec was top notch as it has been for the past 4 or 5 events. i love watching the shows they put together. miguel torres is so slick on the ground love watching him fight. never been a fan of razor rob and always thought he was overrated glad to see varner knock him out. condit was solid as usual but for some reason there's something i don't like about him, he's a good fighter though. can't wait for the march event and the sonnen/filho rematch.

DarkKnight81

02-15-2008, 03:12 PM

the saw is family

02-16-2008, 06:37 AM

I dont like Condit either. Rumor is he could be heading to the UFC. I'd be interested to see if he has his "menacing glare" face on when he's looking across at GSP. Glad to Razor Rob lose too, he just seems like every guy I hated in high school.

i think condit would do ok at 170 in the ufc. i think he would lose to gsp, fitch, koscheck, karo, hughes, and probably diego. he might do ok against some of the lower tier welterweights, maybe swick, burkman, anthony johnson. yeah i don't get that face either, i just think man you're getting in the cage to kick some ass we already know you're tough you don't have to make that face to prove it. also damn is he skinny he weighed in at 167 for that last fight which makes me think he probably doesn't even cut any weight.

DarkKnight81

02-16-2008, 03:49 PM

The thing I hate most about him is he brings his white trash parents ringside and they scream the whole match long, "Kill em Carlos, kill em!!!" Like its some kind of Texas death match.

the saw is family

02-16-2008, 04:10 PM

The thing I hate most about him is he brings his white trash parents ringside and they scream the whole match long, "Kill em Carlos, kill em!!!" Like its some kind of Texas death match.

i've never noticed that before his dad is a senator or congressman or maybe he was governor some government official from new mexico funny he would act like that in public. you have showtime to watch the elitexc event tonight? main event should be a freakshow but there's a few good fights on the undercard.

DarkKnight81

02-17-2008, 04:49 AM

the saw is family

02-17-2008, 10:18 AM

Kimbo killed Tank of course. All of Kimbo's training is for nothing if he continues to fight in EliteXC, there just isnt the competition for him to cement his name as a legit heavyweight. Hopefully the UFC will sign him this year if he can beat somewhat decent in his next fight, which I'm guessing will be against Antonio Silva.

i don't think they'll give him silva next gary shaw is proclaiming silva as the number one heavyweight in the world, so i don't think he would want one of his two big investments to cancel each other out. i don't know if you watched the broadcast or not but the announcers name dropped ken shamrock as a possible opponent, which was weird. you know shamrock would be coming in looking for a leg lock and thats it. i wouldn't mind seeing kimbo fight brett rogers next the guy who knocked out thompson last night.

DarkKnight81

02-17-2008, 04:52 PM

the saw is family

02-18-2008, 08:43 AM

Shamrock would be a good fight for him, even though he's washed up he'd still be the most dynamic opponent Kimbo has ever faced.

Also there is a rumor floating around that Tito Ortiz is not training for his fight against Lyoto Machida and has said to several people he no longer wants to fight. Can't say I blame him, the guys had more serious injuries than anybody I've ever seen and still come back from them. If it's true, I'd like to see Keith Jardine step in for him and have the winner face the winner of Rampage/Forrest. Wanderlei Silva still needs an opponent as well, maybe Sokdejou or a rematch with Vitor Belfort if they sign him. It also sounds like Fabricio Werdum may get the first shot at Big Nog's title. Tim Sylvia is rumored to be fighting Frank Mir for the next shot, although most people want to see him get crushed by Brock Lesnar.

yeah i heard that about tito as well, hopefully it's not true i'd like to see how machida would fair against a strong wrestler. the rumor with jardine is that he's going to fight wanderlei on the same card as the penn/sherk fight. i like werdum but nog has already beaten him once and probably will again, i really hope they can work things out with arlovski get him resigned and have him fight nog. i wouldnt mind seeing a sylvia/mir rematch

DarkKnight81

02-18-2008, 08:26 PM

I'm sad to see Arlovski go but its very unlikely he'll be back. He wants about $500,000 a fight and he makes less than half that now. Apparently he's been training heavily in his boxing and plans to become a pro boxer after his last fight in the UFC. He hasnt been the same since Sylvia KO'd him.

the saw is family

02-18-2008, 10:07 PM

yeah he probably will end up gone, but i'll still hold out a little bit of a hope. with that suspect chin of his who knows how he would make it as a boxer. i just hope to see the best fights possible this year from various organizations.

DarkKnight81

02-19-2008, 05:06 PM

Wanderlei Silva's trainer and manager has said its very likely he will move to middleweight. He says his lack of size is the main reason and Wanderlei says he wants a rematch with Dan Henderson. I think it would be a good move, he is short and stocky for 205, that division is stacked anyways and middleweight could use another great fighter. I thought he looked great against Liddell despite having those short arms but he's an immediate contender in MW.

*UPDATE
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5727&zoneid=2

And just like that, Wandy confirms it himself. I do hope he gets the fight with Jardine before he moves down. Then he can fight the loser of Anderson/Henderson or possibly Rich Franklin.

the saw is family

02-19-2008, 11:20 PM

yeah i read about wand's move, hopefully he takes the jardine fight before the move i think that would be a real slugfest. hopefully he doesn't take up permanent residence at 185 though i would love to see him have another go with chuck before liddell retires. oh also they changed the april 2nd fight night into a 3 hour event, can't wait to see even more of that stacked card.

DarkKnight81

02-19-2008, 11:38 PM

I definitely want to see Chuck vs Wandy II as well but unfortunately I think the result would be the same. I was saying all along its a terrible match up for Wand or any really aggressive fighter that is even a little undersized to fight Chuck. He is the biggest 205'er ever and we all know he loves to counter punch. I just dont think Wand has anything in his arsenal to defeat Chuck. I also think if Chuck climbs his way back to the top only to lose to Rampage once more and he still wants to fight, he'll move to heavyweight.

DarkKnight81

02-19-2008, 11:41 PM

Oh yeah, that UFN already has 10 scheduled fights, so I doubt they'll add anymore. Hopefully though there will be time to air them all.

the saw is family

02-20-2008, 12:05 AM

Oh yeah, that UFN already has 10 scheduled fights, so I doubt they'll add anymore. Hopefully though there will be time to air them all.

yeah i doubt all ten will get air time i'm hoping for at least 7 or 8. yeah i think chuck would defeat wandy again too. the first fight was a classic though i thought, i was so surprised to see chuck fight for the win and score points by doing takedowns instead of fighting for just the knockout as he had been for years. it's gonna be chuck vs. shogun in june. if shogun comes in like he did against forrest chuck will win easily. shogun come sin in shape and prepared it'll be a tough fight for both of them and it'll be 50/50 who will win imo, i'd probably lean towards chuck due to his counter-striking style. i just recently re-watched the 2005 pride grand prix damn was shogun a beast in that tourney. (i think he lost the fight to rogerio at critical countdown though)

DarkKnight81

02-20-2008, 04:42 AM

the saw is family

02-20-2008, 08:15 AM

Chuck vs Wandy was probably the most intense and exciting fight I've ever watched live, we were going nuts during the PPV and I'd love to see part II. I cant pretend I know a whole lot about Shogun, obviously he's garnered a mythological type of reputation in a short time. I've only seen his fight against Rampage which was as impressive a performance I've ever seen, and his fight against Forrest in which he looked out of shape and uncomfortable. I guess he had a torn ACL and was unable to train properly. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt himself. But if he fails to show up against Chuck too I'll certainly have my doubts.

i definitely think shogun will be more focused and have a better gameplan than he did against forrest. i don't know if you have any disposable income or use netflix at all but i highly recommend buying or renting, total elimination, critical countdown and final conflict 2005, awesome tournament with a ton of great fights. shows how good shogun can be. oh who would you say is your favorite fighter?

bourahioro

02-20-2008, 08:53 AM

For my money right now, my faves are:

LW: Spencer Fisher
WW: Matt Hughes (I know I'm gonna get shit for that)
MW: Dan Henderson
LHW: Quinton Jackson
HW: Andrei Arlovski

the saw is family

02-20-2008, 03:08 PM

For my money right now, my faves are:

LW: Spencer Fisher
WW: Matt Hughes (I know I'm gonna get shit for that)
MW: Dan Henderson
LHW: Quinton Jackson
HW: Andrei Arlovski

pretty good list minus hughes(hate him but respect him a ton as a fighter)

lw:bj penn, jz calvancante, aoki, guida

ww: gsp, nick diaz,

mw: anderson silva, patrick cote, misaki

lhw: chuck, forrest griffin, wand, rogerio nog,

hw. rodrigo nog, fedor, cro cop, josh barnett.

couldn't pick just one fighter for each category.

DarkKnight81

02-20-2008, 04:25 PM

the saw is family

02-20-2008, 07:22 PM

I use Blockbuster online and I have every single PRIDE DVD in my queue already, unfortunately alot of them have a long wait. My favorite fighter of all time is probably Bas Rutten, but for now these are my favorites...

HW: Frank Mir
LHW: Rampage
MW: Frank Shamrock
WW: Jon Fitch
LW: Roger Huerta

I've been watching the UFC since the 1st one and I've been trying to catch up on PRIDE.

frank shamrock, definitely a love him or hate him fighter. i don't know how often you go on sherdog or if you do at all, but there was a thread over there recently by a reputable long time poster concerning the upcoming frank shamrock/cung le fight. his source was supposedly one of cung le's students. the guy told him that the fight was going to be a work with frank losing in a controversial fashion. they would fight a second time also a work with frank winning, then complete the trilogy with an actual fight. i really really hope this isnt true as i was really hyped for that fight, if it looks fishy i'll never watch another strikeforce event.

yorrick brown

02-20-2008, 10:42 PM

my fav mma is gina carano.plus her record before in muay thai was pretty awesome 12-1-1.

mma .kimbo! .use to watch his street fights on line.he`s only had three mma fights but he knocked the shit out of tank abbott.

and oleg taktarov is cool.

UFC

i like quinton jackson.

DarkKnight81

02-20-2008, 11:38 PM

frank shamrock, definitely a love him or hate him fighter. i don't know how often you go on sherdog or if you do at all, but there was a thread over there recently by a reputable long time poster concerning the upcoming frank shamrock/cung le fight. his source was supposedly one of cung le's students. the guy told him that the fight was going to be a work with frank losing in a controversial fashion. they would fight a second time also a work with frank winning, then complete the trilogy with an actual fight. i really really hope this isnt true as i was really hyped for that fight, if it looks fishy i'll never watch another strikeforce event.

Yeah I go to Sherdog alot but I dont post much, I use the same user name as joblo, but that site is filled with degenerates that will flame anything and everything you say. I heard about the Shamrock/Le ordeal. I find it hard to believe that both guys would agree to that and then start telling random people. Neither of these guys should be up to this. I think Tank took the fall for Kimbo but Tank has nothing to gain except alot of money. I live in Tacoma Washington so I might be going to the upcoming Strikeforce show at the Tacoma dome if its not sold out the day of. I wish Shamrock was fighting but I've never been to an MMA event so it should be fun.

DarkKnight81

02-20-2008, 11:39 PM

unspoken

02-21-2008, 02:46 AM

Chuck vs Wandy was probably the most intense and exciting fight I've ever watched live, we were going nuts during the PPV and I'd love to see part II. I cant pretend I know a whole lot about Shogun, obviously he's garnered a mythological type of reputation in a short time. I've only seen his fight against Rampage which was as impressive a performance I've ever seen, and his fight against Forrest in which he looked out of shape and uncomfortable. I guess he had a torn ACL and was unable to train properly. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he wasnt himself. But if he fails to show up against Chuck too I'll certainly have my doubts.

You would be hard-pressed to find a bigger Shogun nuthugger than me, and I have very strong doubts about him fighting Chuck. Honestly, the only way he wins is by a razor-thin split decision. He needs to drop to 185, because he is way undersized for the 205 division in the US. That's one thing I've noticed since the PRIDE guys started coming over... either they were hard on the juice over there, or cutting weight wasn't a common thing to do, because 95% of them are going to be undersized (and therefore less competitive) in the division that they fought in in PRIDE.

DarkKnight81

02-21-2008, 04:32 AM

I've heard the roid rumors on PRIDE and it wouldnt shock me one bit but I'm still not completely sold on it. Nogeura and Rampage were both long time PRIDE guys and both have done really well in the UFC under drug testing. I heard more specifically that the Chute Boxe guys were juicing but after Wandy showed up fucking ripped and put on a great fight I dont believe it. Like I said, I'll give Shogun the benefit of the doubt that he really was injured for his last fight. Funny thing is Kongo accused Crocop of juicing and then Crocop fired back saying he was going to make Cheick eat his own words. I hope Crocop comes back, theres no denying he was getting his ass handed to him by Gonzaga even before the head kick. But he was handing Kongo his ass before he broke his rib and then took those big nut shots. If the guy gets his head on straight he could be great in the UFC, that's if he really wants to be there.

bourahioro

02-21-2008, 06:41 AM

Too late for Cro Cop - He's officially signed with Dream (New company comprised of M-1, and Bodog), Too much tough competition in the UFC for him.

the saw is family

02-21-2008, 08:13 AM

when it comes to PRIDE i think it was a combo of weight-cutting not being an issue and some guys being on roids. as much as i don't like to say it i do think shogun was juicing in pride, he was much more muscular and if you look close during the 05 grand prix you can see he has acne on his back which is a sure sign of roid usage. wanderlei i'm sure at least was juicing during the 06 open weight grand prix, he was huge in that tournament. when he fought cro cop in the semi's he weighed more than cro cop, but roids weren't illegal there so no big deal really.

DarkKnight81

02-21-2008, 01:32 PM

Too late for Cro Cop - He's officially signed with Dream (New company comprised of M-1, and Bodog), Too much tough competition in the UFC for him.

Crocop and Dana White have both said he'll back in the UFC when he's ready. I find it hard to believe, I think they're both just trying to play off the fact Crocop hated fighting in the UFC and will never be back.

DarkKnight81

02-21-2008, 01:34 PM

the saw is family

02-23-2008, 02:33 PM

well wanderlei has officially signed for the fight against jardine. should be a slugfest. well it's a week away might as well start with the ufc 82 predictions.

anderson over hendo-tko late 4th round

franklin over lutter via unanimous decision

leben over sakara via tko rd 2

yushin okami over evan tanner via unanimous decision

heath herring over kongo via unanimous decision (if heath is smart and uses his advantage in wrestling)

jon fitch over chris wilson via tapout (rnc) rd 2

andrei arlovski over jake o'brien via tko rd 2

luke cummo over luigi fiorvanti via tko rd 3

josh koscheck over dustin hazlett via unanimous decision

diego sanchez over david bilkheden via tko rd 1

jorge gurgel over john halverson via tapout (armbar) rd 2

DarkKnight81

02-23-2008, 10:19 PM

Sweet, I've been hoping for that fight to happen. I see Wand winning by KO in the second round. He looked sharp against Chuck and I dont think Keith will be able to absorb all the shots Chuck took. Win or lose I think this is Wand's last fight at 205. I like Keith but I almost want him to lose just to ensure that Lyoto Machida is next in line to get a shot. As far as UFC 82 goes I cant wait for that either. My heart says Hendo will win by GNP but my brain says KO by Silva. So I guess I'll just say I want Hendo to win but I dont think its gonna happen. Here are my winners: Silva, Sakara, Okami, Kongo, Fitch, Arlovski, Cummo, Sanchez, Hazlett, Gurgel.