Official UFC/PRIDE Fighting/MMA Thread [Archive]

Tai Mai Jew

05-03-2006, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by MISFITS_Fiend
Damn...I can't believe this thread is so stagnant!!!

What does everybody think about the next PPV? I'm definitely getting this one. I don't usually order PPVs, but the thought of seeing Matt Hughes go up against Royce Gracie is just too awesome to miss. Matt Hughes seems to think it'll be quick; I think Royce looks better than he has in years and will definitely prove a challenge. I see him winning by submission, but it's still a tough call. Hughes is definitely the superior striker in this matchup, which could prove to be the deciding factor.

I've been buying UFC's PPV's since early 2001 (when my family first got cable), and have been a fan of the sport since I was 13 when i first started rolling with Ted Bailey.

As for the fight? Hughes will probably win. He’s younger, faster, stronger, just as skilled... he’s the complete package. Gracie is a great fighter, no doubt, he can still kick it in the ring and has proven himself as a dominant fighter with only a few losses to his amazing MMA record. But he’s not in the same shape he was 7 years ago.

It’ll be a great fight, but Hughes will end up with the decision on his side.

MISFITS_Fiend

05-08-2006, 02:48 PM

Does anyone know if they have announced the undercard yet? All I've heard about is the Hughes/Gracie fight (which in itself is enough for me to get the PPV).

Tai Mai Jew

05-28-2006, 02:34 AM

*spoilers*

Ha ha ha!!! Hughes killed Gracie, exactly what I predicted.

*end spoilers*

MISFITS_Fiend

06-29-2006, 10:00 AM

I can't believe this thread is so dead...MMA in general and the UFC in particular are really picking up speed now, and in my opinion is one of the most scientific of combative sports. C'mon people; let's keep this thread alive!

TheDeadWalk

07-09-2006, 09:20 PM

Bitter Rivals was the worst UFC PPV, ever.

Tai Mai Jew

07-09-2006, 09:26 PM

totally agree... they showed only five fights yesterday. Fucking gay. And most of the fights were weak. They need to adopt PRIDE'S card system, and they need to show more fights. 10 at the least...

bourahioro

01-07-2007, 09:58 AM

Cro Cop highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF_PrippGn4&mode=related&search=)

There are going to be some very sorry UFC fighters, very soon.

and on another note, I saw video of Chuck Liddell fighting Quinton "rampage" Jackson....Chuck got his ass kicked...BAD!

bantameant

01-07-2007, 10:18 AM

Ho-LY Shit.

Just watched the Cro Cop highlights - I can already hear the crying from the octagon.

Those high kicks followed by a good smash to the face are gonna turn many fan-favourites into cauliflowered-eared losers.

I'm going to be VIBRATING, waiting for this guy to enter the octagon!!

DarkKnight81

01-08-2007, 06:26 PM

Anybody know why he left PRIDE? Seems like he'd want to fight the best, unless of course its about money.

bourahioro

01-08-2007, 07:08 PM

He left PRIDE because of what he considered a smaller salary than he figured he deserves....I'll bet the UFC is gonna pay him wickedly for the 2 year, 6 fight contract. He was supposed to make an appearance or fight at a PRIDE event, and backed out of it, and Dana White announced a few days later that Cro Cop IS coming to the UFC.

Give it time, Fedor Emelianeko will follow, and them money fight between he and Mirko 'Cro cop' Filipovic will be the biggest in UFC history, Fedor openly admits that the fight he won between he and Cro Cop was the toughest he'd ever fought (hFedor won by decision)

DarkKnight81

01-08-2007, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by bourahioro
He left PRIDE because of what he considered a smaller salary than he figured he deserves....I'll bet the UFC is gonna pay him wickedly for the 2 year, 6 fight contract. He was supposed to make an appearance or fight at a PRIDE event, and backed out of it, and Dana White announced a few days later that Cro Cop IS coming to the UFC.

Give it time, Fedor Emelianeko will follow, and them money fight between he and Mirko 'Cro cop' Filipovic will be the biggest in UFC history, Fedor openly admits that the fight he won between he and Cro Cop was the toughest he'd ever fought (hFedor won by decision)

I wish I could have seen that fight, hopefully they'll fight again someday whether it be in UFC or PRIDE. I wish they would have a big cross over PPV.

bourahioro

01-08-2007, 10:30 PM

Dude, go to youtube and do a search for Cro Cop...lots of shit'll display, but if you want a more definite search do cro cop vs fedor... it was an awesome fight. very even...I wouldn't have been shocked had it gone the other way, it was that close......you know what? fuck it, I searched for ya:)

Mirko 'Cro Cop' Filipovic -vs- Fedor Emelianenko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14pwRF6M7N4)

Enjoy.

DarkKnight81

01-08-2007, 11:48 PM

Fedor is the fucking man, no doubt about it. Crocop got in a few nice punches in the middle of the fight but for the most part he was on his heels and on the defensive the whole time. I mean you cant blame the guy, it is Fedor, at least he went the whole fight. The thing I noticed was that it seemed like Fedor wanted to stay up and challenge Crocops standup when he probably could have shot and taken him down anytime and pounded his face in. In my opinion Fedor pretty much owned him, his biggest weakness seems to be that he cuts and bleeds easy as seen here and in the Kosaka fiasco. Crocop is an amazing fighter but Fedor showed that without question he is the best fighter in the world. I really cant imagine saying anyone was ever as good as Fedor is now. Ever.

Tai Mai Jew

01-09-2007, 03:06 AM

The heavyweight devision in the UFC has nothing on Pride. Cro Cop will obtain the title within the next 5 or 6 months, and all the former WWE redneck fans will gawk at the power and greatness that is Mirko... well, when they stop booing him like dumbasses.

The UFC doesn't run as deep as other leagues do. This move to buy them out, and import other fighters from other leagues, is a genius move on our part.

I predict the UFC will bank more money this year then they did in 06'. If not only from Mirko.

07 is going to fucking rock!

bourahioro

01-09-2007, 09:49 AM

Darkknight... CroCop was ill at the time of that fight, and nursing a sore (sprained) foot, he hadn't slept for at least a day before his fight with Fedor, therefore wasn't 100%, this is why I say that if they also bring Fedor to the UFC, and match him against Mirko, it'll be THE fight to see and remember.

TaiMaiJew... I agree with you about PRIDE being better than the UFC, I think the differences between the two are kind of closing in though with additions such as Mirko, and Quinton Jackson....UFC is doing the smart thing by getting these fighters, and possibly more. '06 was a pretty good year UFCwise, '07 will rule, especially with Mirko joining the roster.

All in all, I'm really very happy with anything fightwise, whether it be PRIDE, UFC, or whatever...I love to fight, and really enjoy watching others fight...so getting someone like Mirko Flipovic into the ufc, with his lightning fast, and hammer hard kicks, and devistating punches, not to mention that the guy will fight and fight and fight, I don't think he's ever submitted, the UFC fighters have it pretty easy....I think they're gonna find out just how easy they have it.

I see Silvia, and Liddell going to sleep, or taking a shitload of punishment from Mirko, and Jackson respectively.

DarkKnight81

01-09-2007, 07:36 PM

Trust me, I'm in no way trying to knock Cro Cop, he's obviously one if the best fighters in the world and I didnt know he was injured and sick for that fight. But to be honest I dont think it would have changed too much, Fedor is just bigger, stronger, and more well rounded. I think Cro Cop will make his way to the top of UFC quickly. Anybody know what weight class he will fight in?

bourahioro

01-09-2007, 10:30 PM

Oh, I wasn't taking what you said as a knock to Cro Cop - I was just giving you details on what could have helped him lose the fight against Fedor. Yeah Fedor is bigger, and stronger....but I think had Cro Cop been 100%, the outcome would have been different.

I think he'll be in the heavyweight division, he's around 215 lbs...reasonably, he could drop some weight and go into the light heavyweight division...taking out Liddell in the process....But methinks that Tim Silvia has something to worry about when Cro Cop makes it to the UFC.

Tai Mai Jew

01-09-2007, 11:34 PM

Jackson has a chance at Lidell, like any fighter would, but i don't think he'll take the belt from him. And as cliche as it might sound, i believe Chuck has outgrown jackson as a fighter since their last meet. I mean, look at Couture, a much superior wrestler then Jackson, a much superior striker then Jackson (technically speaking), and chuck beat him twice and retired the guy.

that says a lot.

To me, its always rock-paper-sizers when it comes to who beats who in MMA. Chuck included, i suppose.

So who knows what can happen?... all i know is that chuck has shown tremendous growth since that fight, and a rematch between the two wouldn't look the same.

i guess we'll have to wait it out...

DarkKnight81

01-09-2007, 11:40 PM

If he goes to the heavyweight division hes going to murder Tim Sylvia, same goes for the Iceman if Cro Cop loses the weight. He's gotta be the best fighter in UFC in some time which hopefully will open the flood gates for other good fighters. I've been a big UFC fan since its inception and I'd like to be a big PRIDE fan since they seem to have the best fighters but they get very little coverage on TV here so its really hard to follow whats going on. I'm happy to see both companies getting more of an audience.

DarkKnight81

01-09-2007, 11:47 PM

Where the hell is Frank Shamrock fighting these days?

bourahioro

01-10-2007, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Jackson has a chance at Lidell, like any fighter would, but i don't think he'll take the belt from him. And as cliche as it might sound, i believe Chuck has outgrown jackson as a fighter since their last meet. I mean, look at Couture, a much superior wrestler then Jackson, a much superior striker then Jackson (technically speaking), and chuck beat him twice and retired the guy.

that says a lot.

To me, its always rock-paper-sizers when it comes to who beats who in MMA. Chuck included, i suppose.

So who knows what can happen?... all i know is that chuck has shown tremendous growth since that fight, and a rematch between the two wouldn't look the same.

i guess we'll have to wait it out...

Did you see their first fight?....Chuck fought then the exact same way he deos now, and while I'm a big Liddell fan, watching the fight between Jackson and Liddell made me rethink how good he actually is. I guess I'd think differently had the fight been even close to even, but the reality is Liddell had nothing at all in his arsenal that could even faze Jackson....Jackson walked into that ring, started punching, and didn't stop....again fuck it, here's the link if anyone hasn't seen it:

Chuck Liddell getting his ass kicked (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOGIFFs85E)

And you're right, Liddell has shown growth since that fight...but is it enough to take this guy out? I'm skeptical.

bourahioro

01-10-2007, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Where the hell is Frank Shamrock fighting these days?

If I'm not mistaken, he's in the IFL.
Which I might add seems really lame, and stupid - the IFL I mean, not Shamrock.

DarkKnight81

01-10-2007, 06:38 PM

Chuck did get beat down pretty bad there but really every fight is different and its hard to say what a rematch may be like if it happens. LIke some people have said, Chuck beat Tito, Tito beat Wanderlei, Wanderlei beat Jackson, so you never really know whats going to happen. It is good that Chuck will finally have some competition since his last few fights have been pretty lame. I also think that Frank Shamrock should come back to UFC or PRIDE but maybe hes not the competitor he once was and just wants to beat down scrubs now. The fact is also that fights change people either for good or bad, some people never recover from fights and the fact that Chuck has bounced back from that beatdown to defend his belt for a while now says a lot about his resolve. I remember a fight a long time ago between Wanderlei and Vitor Belfort where Wandy was knocked out in less than a minute and now Vitor is nowhere to be seen and Wandy is one of the best. You just never know.

DarkKnight81

01-10-2007, 06:42 PM

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a389/dispatcher1977/Frank_Shamrock.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h71/just_joe_lyall_photos/shamrock.jpg

I cant believe these two arent real brothers or at least half brothers, I had no idea Frank was adopted. They have somewhat similar faces and very similar bodies. I never would have known.

bourahioro

01-11-2007, 08:02 AM

They aren't biological brothers? I thought they were....weird.

bourahioro

01-13-2007, 07:01 AM

I just got the Fight network yesterday! It's so far beyond kickass it's not even funny. K1 fighting on this afternoon, I'm fucking jacked.

DarkKnight81

01-13-2007, 06:03 PM

So I guess Randy Couture was tired of getting his ass kicked by the Iceman so now he is challenging Tim Sylvia in the heavyweight division. He's had a great career but he needs to retire.

bourahioro

01-14-2007, 07:43 AM

Didn't Chuck only beat him once?

...and as far as Sylvia goes, Randy might be old, but he can throw down. Sylvia should be happy if he loses to Couture...because then it'd be Couture fighting against Cro Cop, not him;)

I dunno who'd win, Couture was right when he said that it seems like Sylvia fights not to lose, instead of fighting to win.

DarkKnight81

01-15-2007, 11:50 AM

Randy lost to Chuck twice, both by knockout and supposedly the second one was so bad he had to retire. But you're right, it doesnt matter if he fights Sylvia for the belt or not because they're only holding onto it for Mirko anyways. Sylvia's not a great champ but I'm pretty sure Couture is washed up. The heavyweight division has been pretty weak for a few years.

bourahioro

01-15-2007, 04:10 PM

That's probably why the welterweight, and light heavyweight divisions seems more focused upon.

DarkKnight81

01-15-2007, 04:47 PM

Totally, the other divisions are much more competitive and filled with a wealth of better fighters. Having Sylvia as the champion just proves my point. Fedor and 90% of the people he has defeated in PRIDE would all crush Sylvia. Since Pedro Rizzo and Bas Rutten left they got nothin.

bourahioro

01-15-2007, 05:27 PM

Sad, but pretty much true.

I'm a big fan of the UFC, K-1, King of the cage, PRIDE...pretty much anything with fighting, and I gotta say, when the bigger, better known fighters from PRIDE and K-1 end up in the UFC, things are gonna change....the Heaveyweight division will matter again.

DarkKnight81

01-15-2007, 06:13 PM

Hopefully some other good fighters will see Mirko with that belt around his waste and no one to fight and decide to come over to UFC.

DarkKnight81

01-15-2007, 11:07 PM

I kind of hate how fighters disappear off the face of the planet. Pete Williams anyone?

bourahioro

01-16-2007, 12:46 PM

Pete Williams was good...I wonder how he'd compete with some of the newer fighters?

ShoDaddy

01-16-2007, 06:11 PM

I think its a good idea that Randy came back. I think Randy was one of Chuck's toughest fights and would still be a number one contender in the light heavyweight division if he was going there. Its a good move, especially since all of the title fights recently in the LHW and HW division have all been rematches (exception with Monson and Sylvia). I want different matchups!

DarkKnight81

01-16-2007, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by bourahioro
Pete Williams was good...I wonder how he'd compete with some of the newer fighters?

I'll never forget him kicking Mark Coleman in the forehead and watching his eyes go crossed. I looked him up and his last fight was in 2002 after a string of defeats in UFC. So maybe he lost his touch but he had some good fights against some good fighters.

bourahioro

01-17-2007, 07:39 PM

I don't think I saw that one... I'll have to check out youtube for it.

So...what do you think's gonna happen at UFC 67? I don't know much about the card, but I'm looking forward to seeing it February 3rd.

DarkKnight81

01-17-2007, 08:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlI75eGjzds

Here ya go, its at about the 45 second mark. I have the DVD and its much better quality and you can literally see Coleman's eyes go crossed and he's out.

DarkKnight81

01-17-2007, 08:19 PM

As far as the next PPV goes, it looks like they grabbed a couple scrubs to let Crocop and Rampage annihilate. I dont know much about Lutter but I dont think Silva's great so he could have a chance. I'm predicting a first round KO by Mirko lifting him into #1 contendership for the heavyweight belt. Not a matter of if, only a matter of when.

bourahioro

01-18-2007, 09:16 AM

Okay...I went to UFC.com and got the stats for the three big fights on UFC 67:

Anderson Silva -vs- Travis Lutter
15-4-0 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-2-0

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson -vs- Marvin Eastman
25-6-0---------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-4-0

Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic -vs- Eddy Sanchez
24-4-2 --------------------------------------------------------------------- 7-0-0

I've seen all of these guys fight, all are good fighters, though throwing someone like Eddy Sanchez against someone like Cro Cop is like throwing a kitten to a pitbull.

After seeing Rampage beat the shit out of Chuck Liddell, it's hard to say how this one will go with Marvin Eastman, Eastman's a good, strong fighter, but Rampage is very much a dominant sort, he's determined to win, and will do what it takes to get it done...Eastman won't win this one.

Anderson Silva's a tough opponant, but Lutter knows how to turn the tables on a fighter, and slide in a win..he'll feel out Silva, and take him out in the third.

unspoken

01-19-2007, 02:15 PM

For UFC 67, I'm just hoping that Cro Cop and Silva get the job done as quick as they should so we can see some undercard fights. Tyson Griffin, Melvin Guillard and Ryoto Machida are all fighting in undercard bouts.

Also looking forward to the post-match interview with Rampage. This guy is going to be huge soon.

bourahioro

01-21-2007, 11:30 PM

2 weeks til UFC 67...predictions?

Tai Mai Jew

01-23-2007, 12:48 AM

my predictions...

Mirko, Rampage, and Silvia are going to kill their opponents.

DarkKnight81

01-23-2007, 07:16 PM

I wouldnt be surprised if Mirko or Rampage end someones career. Its sort of a pointless card except to see those two demolish anything in their way.

DarkKnight81

01-23-2007, 07:58 PM

Tito Ortiz says he and Dana White are going to have a boxing match...is Dana a fighter or is this just some joke? I also watched an interview with Frank Shamrock talking about fighting Dana and if he loses he'll fight in UFC for free and if Dana wins Chuck Liddel has to fight in Shamrocks "Strike Force" for free or something like that. I didnt know Frank was fighting for a different company, I thought he retired.

Tai Mai Jew

01-23-2007, 08:44 PM

Dana white is a GREAT boxer... he'll out box tito.

DarkKnight81

01-23-2007, 09:20 PM

What's happened to Tito? He use to seem like the guy that would carry the company and now its Chuck Liddell. I wonder sometimes if Tito got lazy.

bourahioro

01-23-2007, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
I wouldnt be surprised if Mirko or Rampage end someones career. Its sort of a pointless card except to see those two demolish anything in their way.

It's funny...BOTH Mirko, and Rampage are notoriously dangerous fighters, and have destroyed some of the best fighters in the world...and they're fighting guys with like 9 fights to their names - these matches are to basically get to watch two guys a) get sent to the hospital, and b) score record breaking defeats.

Silvia's fight will take a little longer, but he'll come out on top.

bourahioro

01-23-2007, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Tito Ortiz says he and Dana White are going to have a boxing match...is Dana a fighter or is this just some joke? I also watched an interview with Frank Shamrock talking about fighting Dana and if he loses he'll fight in UFC for free and if Dana wins Chuck Liddel has to fight in Shamrocks "Strike Force" for free or something like that. I didnt know Frank was fighting for a different company, I thought he retired.

When the hell did this shit go down?!

DarkKnight81

01-23-2007, 11:50 PM

I read the thing about Tito on his website and it sounds legit. I saw the Shamrock video on youtube. He mentions something about the bad payscale in UFC and thats why hes not fighting there. How much money can he really be making in a company called "Strike Force" if thats even the name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es9y61kSgF0

bourahioro

01-24-2007, 08:57 AM

Frank Shamrock's an idiot.

unspoken

01-24-2007, 09:03 PM

Agreed. He walks around saying he's the greatest fighter of all time, and he's faced like 3 credible opponents in his career. He should spend more time training and fighting quality opponents and less time making videos for his myspace (which aren't even that funny to begin with)

As far as Tito and Dana boxing, it was written into Tito's contract when he came back last year that he and Dana would have a 3 round exhibition boxing match. Tito said in an interview a few days ago that it was going down on March 24. It was supposed to happen 5 or 10 days after the 3rd Shamrock fight, but if anything would have happened to Tito, he would have been medically suspended and not cleared to fight Chuck on the 30th.

I've also heard rumours though that the NSAC wouldn't sanction it due to the weight difference between Tito and Dana.

DarkKnight81

01-24-2007, 10:59 PM

I was surprised to hear him criticizing Ken saying he's jealous that Frank has accomplished more than he ever could. The only thing I would say is that Frank beat Tito and Ken hasnt but I think its safe to say Ken in his prime could have beaten Tito. Lets take a look at some of Ken's career wins:
Funaki twice
Bas Rutten twice
Maurice Smith
Dan Severn
Kimo twice
a 36 minute draw with Royce Gracie!!!
a 33 minute draw with Oleg Taktarov...
And he couldnt beat a 11 years younger than him. Big deal, Ken has had a much better career than Frank probably will ever have. I like Frank and I'd like to see him fight more but he's stupid for saying Ken is jealous.

bourahioro

01-25-2007, 06:59 AM

Frank *is* a good fighter....but after all the shit talking, can you imagine him deciding to join the UFC? I'm sure there's a lineup of dudes that'd love nothing more than to beat his ass. I guarantee his W/L record would be a completely different monster altogether if he were to join the UFC. As far as the Dana White thing....I don't think Dana could beat Tito, or even the other guy he's supposed to fight in order for Shamrock to join the UFC for free....but I like Dana White, and what he's done for MMA in general - fuck Frank Shamrock, that pompous diva douchebag motherfucker.:mad:

bourahioro

01-25-2007, 07:17 AM

UFC video games to be made by THQ, the makers of the WWE games!!

It’s been a long time since we’ve seen a new edition of the Ultimate Fighting Championship in video game form, but that will be changing in the not-too-distant future, as the UFC has struck a deal with video game publisher THQ.

In a story first reported by entertainment trade journal Variety, THQ has signed a five-year contract with Zuffa to be the exclusive publisher of UFC video games through the end of 2011 for "all console and portable platforms, as well as wireless devices."

While no specific game platforms have been announced for the first UFC game from THQ, the primary platforms for UFC games in the future would seem likely to be the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, though modified versions of UFC games could also be released for the less powerful and younger-skewing Nintendo Wii.

Drastically altered versions of the games could also be released for portable systems such as the Nintendo DS or Sony PSP in order to maximize revenue and help offset the higher development costs of Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 games.

THQ is not a company that develops video games itself; THQ is a game publisher that hires game developers to create games. THQ funds and supervises the development of these games, and THQ is then responsible for marketing the finished products.

The quality of future UFC video games will be heavily dependent on which developer(s) THQ has contracted to develop the games. In an interview with IGN, THQ executive Kelly Flock refused to answer when he was asked to name the developer of the game.

THQ is also the publisher of WWE video games, and the fact that WWE and UFC games will now be released by the same game publisher has upset the management of WWE, which has seen its domestic pay-per-view buyrates collapse in the same year that the UFC's PPV buyrates skyrocketed.

In early 2005, the UFC started airing on the same cable network as WWE (Spike TV), and when WWE's contract with Spike TV came up for renewal later in 2005, Spike TV made the choice to break off all renewal negotiations with WWE, which then returned to USA Network for significantly lower rights fees than it had been receiving from Spike TV.

THQ's Flock said in an interview with Variety, "We see WWE as an entertainment brand, while UFC is a true sports brand." The WWE games that have been published by THQ had been fairly well received from a critical standpoint for years, but have received decidedly mixed reviews over the past few years.

THQ previously published "Pride FC" for the PlayStation 2, a game that is widely regarded as the best MMA game to date. As for UFC-branded video games, the first effort on the Sega Dreamcast was well-received, but the last several UFC games from publishers such as Crave Entertainment, TDK Mediactive, and Global Star Software (a brand of Take-Two Interactive) were almost universally panned by critics.

Video games based on MMA are inherently difficult to create due to the complexity of the sport and the fact that fights can end in any number of different ways, which makes it hard for developers to create an entertaining, but still true-to-life gameplay experience.

When asked by IGN about the degree of difficulty in such a project, Flock acknowledged, "We're well aware of this difficulty to made this game work out, especially the mechanics, and Zuffa, LLC was also aware of this when they picked us to publish their game."

THQ has been mum on the details regarding its first UFC game. The Variety and IGN articles said that the game would include online multi-player functionality (which is a given for any sports game) and would feature "current and former UFC fighters."

The specific fighter line-up could be a key factor, as previous UFC games were missing some notable fighters who wanted to be paid fees or royalties for their video game appearances in the same way that athletes in any other sport are paid when they appear in video games. In football, basketball, baseball, hockey, and other sports, this is handled through the Player's Association of each respective sport.

THQ's Flock also said that he envisions new releases once per year after the first UFC game has been released, as he said to IGN, "UFC lends itself to an annual update, so we expect to have annual iterations of the game with new features, updated and upgraded graphics and gameplay, the whole deal."

No titles or release dates have been announced, though the Variety article said that the first game would likely be released in late 2007 or in 2008.

However, given the fact that the deal between Zuffa and THQ was just signed in late 2006 and that a new gameplay engine is presumably being created for the game, a late 2007 release date would seem to be very unlikely. A one-year development cycle would be unusually short and seemingly rushed for the first generation of a new game franchise running on a new gameplay engine.

Beyond the core gameplay itself and the features that are standard for any sports or fighting game, fans of previous MMA video games will also be interested to know what innovations the game will offer in its "Season" or "Career" modes, how deep the simulation aspects of the game will be, and how many fighters the game will include. It's conceivable that the game could feature dozens of fighters, given the massive size of the UFC's real-life roster.

THQ's biggest motivation for signing a deal with the UFC is obvious. A top-selling video game can generate tens of millions of dollars in revenue or more, and the UFC's popularity has exploded over the past two years.

THQ's Flock said to IGN, "The popularity of the UFC has really kicked into gear. It's amazingly popular right now. We saw the numbers, how it was taking off, how our demographic was interested, and we felt like it was time to bring it back to the interactive arena. The response from people [who] know about it all think this is a great move."

DarkKnight81

01-26-2007, 01:26 PM

I bought the first UFC game that came out for Dreamcast and it sucked. I dont doubt this will be any different. Honestly, there is no way to bring the sport into videogames and make it somewhat realistic. Its just too complicated.

unspoken

01-26-2007, 01:38 PM

THQ also screwed up big time with Smackdown vs. Raw 2007. The game has so many ridiculous flaws and the new control system can be extremely difficult to use.

bourahioro

01-27-2007, 07:30 AM

Ahh well, I'll get it anyway - I've never played a UFC game, but it'd have to be better than the WWE games, and the fact that it's gonna be out for the next gen systems is all the more appealing to me.

in other news, I watched some old Rampage Jackson, and Bas Rutter fights last night....awesome stuff, some of it bare knuckles.

bourahioro

01-28-2007, 07:01 AM

Anyone see the Herring fight last Thursday on UFC? that dude has to be embarrassed, he had no takedown defense, and may have landed a dozen shot, and not even heavy shots at that.

The Rashad/Salmon fight was awesome though, that was one vicious fucking snap kick that Salmon took to the head.

bourahioro

01-31-2007, 06:50 AM

4 more days til UFC 67!

I'm stoked.

Tai Mai Jew

01-31-2007, 03:50 PM

The classic fighter vs wrestler, happens all the time, but it's disappointing to see a fight go nowhere like that... and the most embarrassing part about this whole thing is that they gave this fight to Jake like he actually did something to win it.

it wasn't a wrestling match, it should have been a No Contest.

I blame Herring the most here, though. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure his wrestling coach rape him a new one.

Thats all in the past, its about CropCop and Rampage now... This shit's going to own...

bourahioro

02-01-2007, 06:33 PM

you fuckin' know it!!

bourahioro

02-02-2007, 12:19 PM

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bourahioro

02-04-2007, 06:58 AM

My predictions were spot on:

Rampage WON
Cro Cop WON
Silva won WON

Now for the stupid news: FUCKING TRAVIS LUTTER DIDN'T MAKE WEIGHT FOR HIS TITLE FIGHT MAKING THE BOUT NON TITLE.........not that it matters Silva still beat him, but it shows a complete lack of discipline for Lutter to have not cut enough weight for his ONE shot at this title.

Cro Cop made Sanchez look like a complete rookie, that was expected, and he won the fight in the first round.

Rampage won his fight in the second round...the fight was pretty even until the last 15 second of the fight, then Rampage opened up with a series of uppercuts, and finished Eastman off.

bourahioro

02-07-2007, 10:32 AM

Predictions for UFC 68 anyone?

unspoken

02-08-2007, 02:03 PM

Right now I'm looking at:

Sylvia knocks out Couture(as much as I hate to say it), Hughes beats Lytle by decision, Franklin KO's Jason MacDonald in round 1, Babalu subs Lambert, and Fitch beats Fiorivanti by decision.

athf1980

02-08-2007, 10:09 PM

I just got into UFC what are the must have UFC ppv dvd's

I have UFC 7, 8, 47, 48, and 59. I have seen every UFC PPV since 59

bourahioro

02-09-2007, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by unspoken
Right now I'm looking at:

Sylvia knocks out Couture(as much as I hate to say it), Hughes beats Lytle by decision, Franklin KO's Jason MacDonald in round 1, Babalu subs Lambert, and Fitch beats Fiorivanti by decision.

I agree with all of your predictions...except for the Sylvia/Couture one...Couture will beat him down slowly, and by then end of it (decision) Sylvia won't be able to lift his arms to defend himself.

bourahioro

02-15-2007, 09:53 AM

I was watching Bodog fight the other night, and they were doing semi-finals to see who would fight for a chance to fight Fedor Emelianenko....ALL of the semi finalists were like 170 lbs, and not at all very good fighters....should be interesting to see the very first MMA in ring beheading.

bourahioro

02-19-2007, 10:15 AM

Did anyone catch the UFC show that Joe Rogan hosts? The one with interviews and shit, I missed it last week, and want to know how bad Sylvia shit-talked Couture.

bourahioro

02-24-2007, 07:07 AM

You ALL need to watch this shit!!!

Fight Science (http://movies.peekvid.com/feature/movies/435/Fight-Science.html)

You're welcome:)

Tai Mai Jew

02-26-2007, 02:55 AM

Yes... fight science is the shit. I've watched that show almost five times already. I don't know how they would, but they should make more episodes. I'd watch it.

__________________________

And who here saw Prides Last PPV? that was, hands down, the best PPV i've paid for in 10 years.

Too many great fights. Download it if you have a chance. I recommend it highly.

bourahioro

02-26-2007, 07:19 PM

I'll download it tonight, I almost got it on PPV, and decided that getting the UFC PPV monthly was enough for my budget.

Tai Mai Jew

02-26-2007, 07:49 PM

true dat... I usually have friends split it with me, so it only ends up being like 5 or 10 bucks a pop.

But it was totally fucking worth it though.

you'll know what I'm talking about once you're finished downloading. fucking amazing.

bourahioro

03-01-2007, 05:53 PM

I started watching the Pride PPV last night, and was too tired to finish it, but what I saw was fucking awesome - When I finish it completely, I'll do a more thorough review on it:) Awesome fights though.

bourahioro

03-03-2007, 08:26 PM

UFC 68 TONIGHT!!

Predictions, or thoughts on the outcome of the fights?

bourahioro

03-04-2007, 01:58 PM

Okay, UFC 68 results!

-Matt Hughes beat Christ Lytle by decision
-Rich Franklin beat Jason MacDonald due to TKO because MacDonald was unable to continue
-Jason Lambert beat Renato 'Babalu' Sobral by KO

- Randy Couture beat Tim Sylvia by unanimous decision

- Matt Hughes and Lytle were fairly even really, Matt was just a little more aggressive, and hit Lytle more than Lytle was able to hit him.
-Rich Franklin really took it to MacDonald, beat him up really good (I'm not even sure if MacDonaly landed more than 4 or 5 punched honestly)
- Lambert dominated Babalu

- Randy kicked the ever-loving-shit out of Tim Sylvia, He hit Sylvia with almost every punch he threw, Sylvia looked like a big dumb amateur, who was thrown in with someone who was experienced - Sylvia landed some hits, but Randy landed HARD hits a lot. It was easily the best match of the whole PPV, and lasted the whole 5 rounds (obviously).

Tai Mai Jew

03-04-2007, 04:07 PM

Yeah, that was a great fucking card. my predictions were about right on apart from Babalu getting his ass kicked... but other then that...

I just hope that they DON'T match Cropcop with Randy any time soon. They need to flesh it out and build up the hype. But knowing the UFC, they'll probably throw Cropcop in there within the next two fights. whatever I guess...

And don't forget that my boy Jamie Varner beat his opponent in the first round with a rear naked choke. fucking great.

It's too bad he didn't get any airtime.

bourahioro

03-05-2007, 02:10 PM

Cro Cop is on the card for UFC 70 - in England...I expect that two to three months after the fight in England (He's fighting Gabriel Gazonga 7-1-0) that he'll be up for title contention against Couture.

bourahioro

03-08-2007, 12:19 AM

I must have missed the Varner fight somehow, were there fights that didn't make it on air for the last UFC PPV? or am I going insane? I was sure that there was supposed to be at least another 4 fights AFTER the main bout.

900th post!

bourahioro

03-18-2007, 07:55 AM

Our good pal Tai Mai Jew has reported that UFC 70 will be broadcast for FREE, on Spike TV - this PPV features Cro Cop in his second UFC offering - I'm eagerly awaiting this.

Otis Driftwood

03-18-2007, 02:02 PM

Sweet. I love watching Cro Cop fight.

bourahioro

03-19-2007, 04:44 PM

me too dude, me too.

I think that any MMA fan does.

Otis Driftwood

03-19-2007, 07:03 PM

I thought I heard something about Forrest Griffith backing out of the next UFC PPV. Do you know what happened?

bourahioro

03-19-2007, 07:05 PM

He has a bad Staph infection, no choice really.

Tai Mai Jew

03-20-2007, 12:07 AM

Zuffa is about to purchase PRIDE FC...

go to sherdog.com for more details

Yay for MMA!!!

bourahioro

03-20-2007, 04:01 PM

WOW WOW WOW WOW motherfucking WOW!!!

good news, this means the UFC should be getting some new fighters soon.

bourahioro

03-20-2007, 04:28 PM

I wonder which fighters from PRIDE FC we should expect to see among the UFC roster?

I hope this doesn't turn into a WWE thing (I hate WWE) where the owners fuck up two companies by associating them with one another.

1000th POST MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

Tai Mai Jew

03-20-2007, 08:33 PM

I would imagine that their contracts would stay with their original organizations, while Zuffa would own the rights to every fighter under those specific contracts.

So in essence, we could possibly see a UFC vs PRIDE in the near future, or have fighters from either organization hold multiple belts in UFC and PRIDE.

it's interesting shit for sure.

I just don't want to see zuffa abuse the idea.

herminator

03-21-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
I would imagine that their contracts would stay with their original organizations, while Zuffa would own the rights to every fighter under those specific contracts.

So in essence, we could possibly see a UFC vs PRIDE in the near future, or have fighters from either organization hold multiple belts in UFC and PRIDE.

it's interesting shit for sure.

I just don't want to see zuffa abuse the idea.

This will never happen. though slowly as its happening already...they will migrate over to the UFC its where the money's at.

also who thinks couture will retire again before he gets killed by crocop

bourahioro

03-21-2007, 03:44 PM

I dunno; I was really on the fence about the Couture/Sylvia fight - I wanted Randy to win because I don't like Sylvia, and Randy's cooler, but I also wanted Randy to lose, because I didn't want to see Cro Cop annihilate him....

Randy's head is basically a moving target for the hospital and cemetery legs.

Tai Mai Jew

03-21-2007, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by herminator
This will never happen. though slowly as its happening already...they will migrate over to the UFC its where the money's at.

also who thinks couture will retire again before he gets killed by crocop

Mind you there is still money in Pride mainly due to the fact that, on an international scale, its bigger then the UFC... Zuffa will do a better job advertising and attracting crowds than Pride ever could.

And a lot of fighters don't like the UFC to begin with... they see it as a threat to the sport and they wont have any part of it.

I am certain that Zuffa will utilize both organizations respectfully and we wont see either of them dominate the other more so then it already has.

bourahioro

03-23-2007, 07:47 AM

I honestly don't care about who owns what, I just wanna see ( or participate ) in violence:)

bourahioro

03-24-2007, 11:53 AM

UFC 71 - LIDDELL -VS- JACKSON ! ! !

herminator

03-26-2007, 08:17 AM

liddell quickly

bourahioro

03-26-2007, 07:39 PM

Sorry dude, I gotta disagree....I know Liddell's tough as fuck, and that he's improved vastly in the last few years, but Rampage beat the shit out of Liddell in their first meeting in the ring, and though the fight will be a good one, Rampage will end up on top. Rampage and Liddell are both GREAT fighters, but Chuck isn't going to be able to dominate Jackson like he does most of his opponents, he'll get discouraged, and make the same tactical errors that he did in their first fight.

I can't wait to see this one though, it's going to be knock down, drag out, and a hell of a show.

I like that their fight is the PPV after the one with Cro Cop (which is going to be a devastating beating on Gazonga). The UFC seems to be stepping it up even more as of late.

Tai Mai Jew

03-26-2007, 09:37 PM

It's official... UFC bought Pride...

read more info about it here... (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3669&zoneid=13)

bourahioro

03-27-2007, 07:24 AM

fuckin' sweet dude.

bourahioro

04-03-2007, 04:12 PM

Anyone else stoked for the new season of The Ultimate Fighter?

Otis Driftwood

04-03-2007, 06:48 PM

I can't wait.

Always good stuff.

What's your take on the Diego/Koscheck fight?

bourahioro

04-03-2007, 07:26 PM

Both are awesome fighters, Koscheck (sp?) was really surprising in how he managed to become more well rounded... And Diego is just all 'round good....I think Diego will have a really tough time with Josh, but ultimately come out on top.

bourahioro

04-05-2007, 02:57 PM

Man 5 hours of UFC tonight on Spike...this is gonna kick ass.

first there's 2 back to back episodes of UFC Unleashed, then UFC Fight Night Live (really, it's live), and then the first episode of the new season of The Ultimate Fighter.....Should prove to be an entertaining night for me.:cool: :D :)

Tai Mai Jew

04-05-2007, 05:14 PM

To tell you the truth, I'm not that excited for this new season...

I'll still watch it though.

I'm still gitty over the fact that UFC and PRIDE are now owned by the same parent company. There are so many fights I'd like to see happen:

Shogun vs Liddell
Arona vs Liddell
(basically any light heavyweight from PRIDE vs Liddell.)

And now that Chuck called out Cro-Cop, and although I don't think he can win, I still want to see the fight.

Gomi vs Sherk
Florian vs Sakurai

...

so fucking many...

XCoRyX

04-06-2007, 05:07 AM

This season seems like it'll have alot of tough-guy syndrome drama...that due Corey Hill is already annoying the shit out of me. Nate Diaz I just knew would be that way so I just accept him,but by god Corey Hill is annoying.

And wow... Melvin did so good.

Tai Mai Jew

04-06-2007, 05:28 PM

Hill is a fucking generic pile of shit. I hope he gets his ass beat down...

XCoRyX

04-07-2007, 11:49 AM

UFC 69 tonight folks...

My Picks!
St. Pierre over Serra (TKO R2)
Koscheck over Diego (Decision)
Okami over Swick (Decision)
Huerta over Garcia (Decision)
Belcher over Grove (TKO R1)
Herring over Imes (TKO R3)
Leites over Sell (Sub R2)
Davis over Spratt (KO R2)
Haynes over Cummo (TKO R1)

bourahioro

04-07-2007, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by XCoRyX
UFC 69 tonight folks...

My Picks!
St. Pierre over Serra (KO R2)
Koscheck over Diego (Decision)
Swick over Okami (KO R2)
Huerta over Garcia (Decision)
Belcher over Grove (TKO R1)
Herring over Imes (TKO R2)
Leites over Sell (Sub R2)
Spratt over Davis (Sub R3)
Cummo over Haynes (TKO R3)

I changed it around a little bit, this is just how I see things going, though you aren't far off, I guess we'll see tonight, eh buddy;) We should bet;)

bourahioro

04-07-2007, 05:32 PM

I'm not all that interested in TUF this season for some odd reason, I'm more interested in seeing BJ Penn kick the shit out of that other halfwit, who's the other team leader.

bourahioro

04-08-2007, 01:14 PM

Okay...Koscheck won, that's cool....But seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?! How in the fuck did Serra manage to pull off such a devastating win?!

I'm beyond shocked, I thought GSP had this in the bag before he even stepped into the octagon.

XCoRyX

04-08-2007, 11:12 PM

I think he just under-estimated Serra big time as we all did...

It was such a great victory and perfect way to end the night. I was at the bar last night drunk as hell and saw Serra with the belt on a news-station of some sorts, and thought I was too drunk. But its true...

Belcher let me down big time against Grove...Grove looked good but I think Belcher beat himself more then anything.

Okami shined as I thought he would victorious...glad to see one of my favorites doing so well. After Marquardt,give him the title shot and rematch with Silva.

Huerta-Garcia was AWESOME.Garcia really reminds me of Babalu.

Kos beating Sanchez was solid too,just because I wanted to see Diego lose...

bourahioro

04-09-2007, 09:20 PM

I've decided that this thread should be STICKY...so it's stuck, since it's the most posted in thread aside from the NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL threads - and as far as I'm concerned it's as relevant.

Tai Mai Jew

04-10-2007, 02:11 AM

Perfect timing... I was just about to suggest this.

Any who, the event was pretty cool, better than I thought it was going to be...

I purposely didn't call the Serra/GSP fight chiefly because I wasn't really sure GSP was actually going to win, but I would have never guessed he would lose by KO... especially to a BJJ guy... and ESPECIALLY to Matt Serra...

And the Huerta/Garcia fight was pretty fucking cool. The lightweight division is going to be very deep in the next year or so.

bourahioro

04-10-2007, 09:26 AM

The Huerta fight was awesome!! THAT was a fight, and not only was it a fight, it proved what the lightweight division can be.

XCoRyX

04-15-2007, 06:54 AM

my cities hometown hero and former undefeated fighter in Eddie Alvarez suffered his first loss tonight to the hands of Nick Thompson (UFC vet).

On the same card, Fedor beat Matt Lindland & Fedors brother Aleks smashed out Eric Pele.

bourahioro

04-15-2007, 06:44 PM

The Emelienko's are vicious...nuff said.

bourahioro

04-21-2007, 12:37 AM

Okay kids, UFC free PPV tomorrow night on Spike:

Predictions anyone?

Otis Driftwood

04-21-2007, 11:34 AM

I predict that SPIKE is going to get HUGE ratings!:D

bourahioro

04-21-2007, 12:09 PM

LOL...we ALL knew that was gonna happen anyway smartass;) I meant about the fight card;)

Otis Driftwood

04-21-2007, 04:19 PM

I hope Cro Cop wins. I'd love to see him against Couture.

I'd also like to see the Pitbull win.

I think they both will win.

bourahioro

04-21-2007, 06:19 PM

You KNOW Gazonga's getting knocked the fuck out....Arlovski is awesome, and so is Bisping; I predict that Arlovski, Bisping, and Cro Cop come out on top.

I feel bad for Couture already.

Otis Driftwood

04-21-2007, 07:35 PM

I hope Bisping puts on a GREAT show. You gotta know he's exicted to be fighting in his home country.

I wish Couture was still in his prime. Him vs. Cro Cop would be awesome. I guess it still could be, but chances are it won't.

So who is BJ Penn fighting next? Jens Pulver?

bourahioro

04-22-2007, 12:39 AM

I CAN'T believe how bad Cro Cop got knocked the fuck out!!!!

did you see that shit?! His head swivelled, and his leg folded behind him, and his foot behind the leg, it was retarded!!

I totally didn't expect that, that's a bigger upset to me than the Serra win over St.Pierre, and this wasn't even a title match.

fuck

Tai Mai Jew

04-22-2007, 03:24 AM

Cro cop was paid to lose... this is the only reasonable explanation!!!

chasingbanky

04-22-2007, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Cro cop was paid to lose... this is the only reasonable explanation!!!

Must of been paid a ton then because he let the guy hit him so hard his foot was pointed the opposite way of the two bodies that landed on it. Not to mention he held his "sleepy" face through all the pain of every bone in his leg snapping underneath said pressure. He got kicked so hard he woke up the day before the fight and did a post fight interview like his leg didn't just get demolished.

Seriously though, you'd have to be out cold for your body to bend like that and you not to scream out louder than you've ever screamed before. Congrats to Gabe Gonzaga.... Hopefully The Natural can pick him apart too.

Otis Driftwood

04-22-2007, 12:19 PM

WOW!

Cro Cop didn't do one damn thing. I just saw one leg kick, that's it.

Congrats to Gonzaga. He came in with huge confidence. That kick was awesome. Especially in slow-mo.

Glad to see Bisping dominate. That first round reminded me of Ortiz-Griffith's first round. Second round gotta a little scary for The Count, but he came through. Can't wait to see who he fights next.

Man, that Arlovski fight was BORING! The second and third rounds, hardly any punches were even thrown!

bourahioro

04-22-2007, 07:04 PM

....and I thought I felt sorry for Couture before.

I'm still shocked as fuck at that KO - I mean DAYUM! THAT was either the luckiest hit I've ever seen (anyone who's seen Cro Cop fight before knows what I mean), or Gonzaga's simply one tough motherfucker! I hope he and Cro Cop go at it again, I wanna see that rematch - and with healing time, and shit, Cro Cop will have to do his homework for the oucome to be any different.

Tai Mai Jew

04-22-2007, 08:23 PM

(regarding the rumors behind cro-cops retirement)
Crop Cop will be back. I'm sure of it...

he'll come back and become god of the heavyweights once again.

And not to take anything away from Gonzaga, he totally deserved the win, but Mirko didn't look very comfortable last night. To me, it looks like he needs a bit of an adjustment to the UFC's style of fighting.

its just a matter of time, is all.

bourahioro

04-23-2007, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
(regarding the rumors behind cro-cops retirement)
Crop Cop will be back. I'm sure of it...

he'll come back and become god of the heavyweights once again.

And not to take anything away from Gonzaga, he totally deserved the win, but Mirko didn't look very comfortable last night. To me, it looks like he needs a bit of an adjustment to the UFC's style of fighting.

its just a matter of time, is all.

I didn't want to say that, because I thought it would belitle the fight or make excuses for a loss...HOWEVER, I DO feel the same way; Mirko looked uncomfortable, AND out of his element, that can weigh heavily in any fight. He simply doesn't look like himself when he fights in a caged octagon IMO.

DarkKnight81

04-24-2007, 09:26 PM

Man i did not see the fight but I caught the highlight on ESPN and I could not believe my eyes. One of two things happened; 1. That guy got lucky and did something none of us have seen or 2. He's a real badass and we all underestimated him. Either way I did not see Mirko ever getting knocked out like that by anybody. I'd love to see a rematch.

bourahioro

04-30-2007, 04:54 PM

Any word on Cro Cop's ankle?:confused:

DarkKnight81

04-30-2007, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by bourahioro
Any word on Cro Cop's ankle?:confused:

No, what happened? Did he fuck it up on the way down?

Tai Mai Jew

05-01-2007, 01:55 AM

The ankle is fine, just a bit swollen is all...

bourahioro

05-01-2007, 06:29 AM

Cool man...That drop looked brutal.

Tai Mai Jew

05-05-2007, 08:28 PM

Tag team grappling match (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70hoA-m8gGA)

They need more of this...

bourahioro

05-06-2007, 08:48 AM

Agreed...That shit was cool.

OKAY, big question......Liddell or Jackson?

Tai Mai Jew

05-06-2007, 04:13 PM

if anyone can beat liddell, its jackson; no one can say otherwise... but liddell knows what he's up against and he's training his ass off for it.

I'm calling liddell knowing that it's "possible" that jackson can devour his soul...

Tai Mai Jew

05-07-2007, 01:05 AM

Fedor will now fight for both the UFC and PRIDE FC....

Source here... (http://fedor.bel.ru/?id=149)

though its in russian, if you can't read it you'll need to translate the page...

great news though...

kcvoorhees

05-07-2007, 11:11 AM

Rampage didn't even look good in his 1st UFC fight and Lidell is in his prime so i think Chuck will destroy him

bourahioro

05-07-2007, 02:02 PM

IF Liddell beats Jackson (and that's a big if) it'll be by decision....But no matter how good Liddell has gotten since he had his ass handed to him by Jackson - I think Jackson's still going to rock Liddell. See, the problem with Liddell is that he's an opprotunistic fighter, when someone starts to get tired, or stunned by an overhand strike, Liddell then breaks out, and beats on them relentlessly....But when a fighter is over aggressive towards Liddell, he ends up losing confidence (and it shows, and loses, or squeaks through with a win. Jackson is always relentless in his fights, he hits, and strikes, and throws, until his adversary is done. Liddell had no chance in their first encounter, and I doubt highly that he'll be any different this time. And for the record, I'm a fan of BOTH Jackson, AND Liddell.

Tai Mai Jew

05-19-2007, 06:16 PM

Looks like Wandy is taking a year off to train and rethink is fighting strategy...

source

http://www.ufcjunkie.com/

DarkKnight81

05-21-2007, 11:42 PM

Liddel is going down.

Tai Mai Jew

05-22-2007, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
if anyone can beat liddell, its jackson; no one can say otherwise... but liddell knows what he's up against and he's training his ass off for it.

I'm calling liddell knowing that it's "possible" that jackson can devour his soul...
;)

bourahioro

05-22-2007, 07:22 AM

IF Liddell beats Jackson (and that's a big if) it'll be by decision;)

Tai Mai Jew

05-27-2007, 12:27 AM

*spoilers*

jackson officially devoured his soul...

DarkKnight81

05-27-2007, 12:44 AM

I knew it was going to happen, nothing against Liddell but he's just not in the same league as Rampage. I hope Chuck comes out and admits he got knocked out instead of shaking his head wondering why it was stopped. He should thank John McCarthy for stopping it because if he didnt Liddell would still be picking his teeth up off the mat.

KingofKings2525

05-27-2007, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by bourahioro
IF Liddell beats Jackson (and that's a big if) it'll be by decision;)

Good call. "He got knocked the fuck out"

On paper the Iceman should have won but you could tell from the beginning that Rampage was going to win. When they were just dancing and walking aroudn not doing anything and he threw up his arms pretty much challenging Liddell it was over. Iceman should have kept to his game plan and not caved to that. When fighters try to please the crowd more times than not it's going to end in big trouble.

I'm actually happy Jackson won. I always thought Liddell was quite boring in the ring.

DarkKnight81

05-27-2007, 02:11 AM

Originally posted by Olboj
On paper the Iceman should have won

And what kind of paper is that, toilet paper? He beat his ass before and nothing was going to stop it from happening again. Rampage is forever in Chuck Liddell's head, it wont matter if there is a rematch.

unspoken

05-27-2007, 06:10 AM

Does the upset streak continue and Okami beats Franklin? It's certainly possible.

If not, a new one starts at 73 when Marquardt becomes MW champion.

bourahioro

05-27-2007, 08:47 AM

Didn't I call that shit?;)

I didn't expect it to be that fast though....You KNOW Chuck's gonna bitch about that loss for ages.

DarkKnight81

05-27-2007, 12:13 PM

Chuck's career is over unless he cuts weight and goes down to middleweight, otherwise he'll never reach the pinnacle again.

The_alpz

05-27-2007, 12:34 PM

Last night was beautiful. Was so happy yo see Rampage take HIS title away from chuck liddel. Been waitin for Rampage to get a title shot in the UFC and was pumped to hear about this fight. Damn near through a party last night to see rampage win the belt. Took chuck don't on a reflex defensive throw no less. Didn't think it would go down like that but only makes a rampage look better baby.

Otis Driftwood

05-27-2007, 01:25 PM

So, does Chuck get a rematch?

IF not Chuck, who does Rampage fight next?

Otis Driftwood

05-27-2007, 01:47 PM

Just found out that Rampage will be fighting Dan Hendersen next. Henderson will return to the Octagon for the first time since 1998.

DarkKnight81

05-27-2007, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Otis Driftwood
So, does Chuck get a rematch?

IF not Chuck, who does Rampage fight next?

Not sure if the former champions in UFC have a rematch clause or not, I dont think they do since I've never seen it happen. Either way I'm sure Rampage is in the Iceman's head now.

Tai Mai Jew

05-27-2007, 04:26 PM

Originally posted by bourahioro
Didn't I call that shit?;)

I didn't expect it to be that fast though....You KNOW Chuck's gonna bitch about that loss for ages.
I don't think anyone predicted the fight to last less than a bloody minute... that was just bizarre...

However, I personally think this is good for the UFC, so I'm actually kinda glad he got KO'd in such fashion. Rampage has more charisma then anyone in MMA, he’s fucking explosive like a motherfucker, he’s more likeable, and he’s a young fighter with a lot of potential... he’ll do a lot better than chuck ever did as champion.

Let me just say that I’m very excited the direction the division is heading.

There should be a rubber match sometime later this year, but that’s probably before chuck moves to heavyweight... if he does indeed move to heavyweight... It’s not set in stone yet, but chuck wants cro-cop, so we’ll see.

DarkKnight81

05-27-2007, 05:23 PM

SweetEnLow

05-27-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
You really think he'll move to heavyweight? I honestly always felt like he's had a gut on him and could lose a few pounds, if he gains anymore he better make sure its pure muscle.

He always looks a bit out of shape to me with a bit of a gut, I think he looked in somewhat better shape last night though.

I thought he was going to bitch that he stopped the fight. On the replay you could clearly see how his face went flat the second time. He was out of it, he had that stunned look on his face like where am I for a few seconds.

I'm just glad I didn't have to see him run around the ring backwards like a chicken again.

DarkKnight81

05-27-2007, 07:39 PM

I respect Chuck for admitting in his post fight interview that he "made a mistake and got caught," I was worried he might complain but it was clear as day he was TKO'd especially when his eyes were crossed for a few seconds.

bourahioro

05-27-2007, 07:52 PM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
I don't think anyone predicted the fight to last less than a bloody minute... that was just bizarre...

However, I personally think this is good for the UFC, so I'm actually kinda glad he got KO'd in such fashion. Rampage has more charisma then anyone in MMA, he’s fucking explosive like a motherfucker, he’s more likeable, and he’s a young fighter with a lot of potential... he’ll do a lot better than chuck ever did as champion.

Let me just say that I’m very excited the direction the division is heading.

There should be a rubber match sometime later this year, but that’s probably before chuck moves to heavyweight... if he does indeed move to heavyweight... It’s not set in stone yet, but chuck wants cro-cop, so we’ll see.

I knew that Rampage was gonna rock Chuck, I honestly didn't expect it to be that fast either:) You're right about the direction that the UFC is headed though, as well as about Rampage being charismatic....He's what the UFC needs, a Dennis Rodman type, who's flashy, outspoken, and quirky.

I think it'd be a huge mistake for Chuck to fight Cro Cop; Cro Cop may have had his ass handed to him once already in the UFC, but Liddell doesn't have what it takes to accomplish that kind of feat.

I still like Chuck, but I like Rampage more. I completely expected to hear about how Chuck was claimgin to have been robbed or something of the sort, good on him for showing some class.

bourahioro

05-30-2007, 04:19 PM

http://photos-069.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v72/60/27/882160493/n882160493_523069_5787.jpg

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Otis Driftwood

05-30-2007, 06:52 PM

That first pic is great!

I guess that they all are.

I think Rampage winning will be good for the UFC. Jackson's already been on the national media tour. I saw him on ESPN the other day giving an interview. Very well done.

XCoRyX

06-03-2007, 03:13 PM

Last night Brock Lesnar absolutely destroyed Min Soo Kim in about 48 seconds, and Gracie won against Sakuraba in the rematch they've bugged for.

Very interested in Brock.

DarkKnight81

06-03-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by XCoRyX
Last night Brock Lesnar absolutely destroyed Min Soo Kim in about 48 seconds, and Gracie won against Sakuraba in the rematch they've bugged for.

Very interested in Brock.

Damn I didnt know he was already fighting, I've got to find that video.

XCoRyX

06-04-2007, 03:24 PM

He wasn't that impressive at all in all honesty, he obviously won which is good for him and such,but he basically just pushed his opponent around and his opponent was in a bad spot and gave up. I can't take anything away from him, but its not the fight we need to see to get an idea of how he will be..

bourahioro

06-05-2007, 09:56 PM

Honestly, I'm not that stoked to see Lesnar fight....I think it has something to do with his prior involvement with the WWE.

Tai Mai Jew

06-07-2007, 05:44 PM

well, it looks like Wandy isn't retiring after all... in fact... his next fight is with The Ice Man...

source (http://www.kakuto.com/news-217-11.html)

expect the fight in the next couple of months... perhaps in September.

Yay-Beans!

Otis Driftwood

06-07-2007, 06:54 PM

Man!

That's awesome news.

Can't wait.

When's Randy Couture fighting again?

DarkKnight81

06-07-2007, 09:57 PM

Cant wait to see that fight.

bourahioro

06-07-2007, 10:58 PM

I'm stoked for any fight with Couture, or Silva.

DarkKnight81

06-08-2007, 12:42 AM

I think if they continued these interpromotional fights and Couture fought Fedor, I'd give Couture a 100% chance of losing and a 50% chance of living.

bourahioro

06-08-2007, 05:10 PM

I thought the same of ANY fighter that stepped into the ring with Mirko (Cro Cop) Filipovic....Gonzaga proves that sometimes, persistance, and being tough is all it takes.

DarkKnight81

06-09-2007, 07:44 AM

I know someday, somehow, Fedor will lose. Most likely from a cut again. But the bottom line is Fedor isnt Mirko, he's the guy that also beat Mirko. I dont think that kick would have knocked Fedor out the way it did Mirko. Just watch when Kevin Randelman dropped him straight on his head and Fedor got straight back up and wooped his ass.

bourahioro

06-09-2007, 11:04 PM

The kick that Mirko sustained was indeed vicious, and I don't want to sully Gonzaga's win over Mirko in any way, a win's a win....but watching that fight again, Mirko didn't seem like himself coming into the cage, or during the entirety of the bout, he looked off.

Fedor is a crazy good fighter though, and you're probably right about the kick thing - didn't Fedor win against Mirko by Decision?

DarkKnight81

06-16-2007, 02:49 PM

My only hopes for today are for Rich Franklin to get his ass whipped and Forrest Griffin to win.

bourahioro

06-17-2007, 04:41 PM

That's tonight?! - fight card and predictions anyone?

Otis Driftwood

06-17-2007, 05:45 PM

It was yesterday.

Want to know who won?

DarkKnight81

06-17-2007, 08:04 PM

Well one of my wishes came true, although the fights sounded boring so I'm glad I didnt buy it.

bourahioro

06-17-2007, 09:29 PM

hells yeah, I wanna know who won!;)

Jimmy"The Gent"

06-17-2007, 10:47 PM

This is a pretty decent thread you guys have kept going. I just read through all the old posts and you guys seem to know your shit on MMA. I'm just starting to get back into the sport after liking it as a kid, I'll always remember watching Frank Shamrock make Tito Ortiz tap like a little bitch live on pap-per-view and fucking loving it. Now that my Interest is back, I'm going through and renting all the old PRIDE FC events on netflix. MMA has definitely taken some leaps and bounds since the early days of the sport.

I also heard that the UFC 72 fights were lack-luster with alot of the fights lacking action at times. I am pumped up to see "Minotauro" Nogueria make the switch over to UFC from PRIDE at UFC 73. He was IMO one of the best heavy-weights the company ever had. Also psyched to see the outcome of the F. Shamrock/ Phil Baroni fight on June 22. With all the trash talking going on with that one, there should be some real fireworks going off. I'm predicting Shammy wins by submission in the first.

bourahioro

06-17-2007, 11:55 PM

Welcome to our little club of toughs....I agree with your thought on the next Shamrock fight.

Tai Mai Jew

06-19-2007, 01:14 AM

the event was OK.... it should have been a fightnight, though.

Jimmy"The Gent"

06-23-2007, 01:07 AM

Welcome back Frank Shamrock! Winner via rear naked choke over Phil Baroni, second round...didn't see it but people are saying it was a hell of a fight.

DarkKnight81

06-23-2007, 05:20 PM

Next UFC PPV looks pretty good, I'll be checking it out. I hope Tito gets a convincing win and gets some steam rolling to hopefully someday face off against Quentin Jackson. Even though Chuck Liddell beat Tito and Jackson has beat Chuck, I think Tito's ground skills make for a better matchup against Rampage.

bourahioro

06-24-2007, 01:33 AM

Chuck's beaten Tito, what? twice? Rampage beat the shit out of Chuck....Tito doesn't do well against chuck, because Chuck has an intimidating aura about him, and Chuck's very confident....Tito will not beat Rampage, Rampage is faster than Chuck, stronger than both Tito AND Chuck, and Rampage fights because he has to (to provide for a dozen kids). Rampage is the shit, and will show Tito what a real bad boy can do.

Tai Mai Jew

06-24-2007, 10:40 AM

Kimbo vs Mercer (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/kimbo/video/x2d1cg_kimbo-vs-ray-mercer)

exactly...

bourahioro

06-24-2007, 12:34 PM

Kimbo is one bad motherfucker.

DarkKnight81

06-24-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by bourahioro
Chuck's beaten Tito, what? twice? Rampage beat the shit out of Chuck....Tito doesn't do well against chuck, because Chuck has an intimidating aura about him, and Chuck's very confident....Tito will not beat Rampage, Rampage is faster than Chuck, stronger than both Tito AND Chuck, and Rampage fights because he has to (to provide for a dozen kids). Rampage is the shit, and will show Tito what a real bad boy can do.

Oh, i agree that Rampage would win the fight, I just think Tito's strategy matches up better. Chuck likes to stand up and you cant do that with a guy that spars with real boxers. Who is this Kimbo guy?

mdpuff01

06-24-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Kimbo vs Mercer (http://www.dailymotion.com/search/kimbo/video/x2d1cg_kimbo-vs-ray-mercer)

exactly...

I don't know a lot about MMA, but I know a lot about boxing and I have to ask what the hell Ray Mercer is doing. He was a washed up boxer who couldn't get any one to fight, so he decides he can do Cage Fury? I'm glad he got bitched. People like him need to know when to just go away. Didn't he already get destroyed when he tried to do kickboxing? Old boxers shouldn't try branching out. That's very dangerous.

mdpuff01

06-24-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by DarkKnight81
Who is this Kimbo guy?

someone correct me if I'm wrong, but he's really no one. Just a street fighter with a ton of videos on youtube and stuff. I think his Mercer beatdown was his first sanctioned fight by any official league, but I might be wrong. He'd get his ass kicked in any real fight.

bourahioro

06-24-2007, 02:43 PM

This is who Kimbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimbo_Slice) is.

Jimmy"The Gent"

06-24-2007, 09:51 PM

Throw Kimbo in with Fedor or any top HW and get the ambulance ready. Street fighters never look very impressive against fighters with serious martial arts training. Case and point, look at Tank Abbott; he used to dominate early UFC competitions against guys with none or limited skills, but when the MMA game evolved into a more precise science, Tank's ship started sinking pretty quick.

I don't know maybe this Kimbo guy will turn out to be a force, but let's see some quality opponents first.

bourahioro

06-25-2007, 11:11 AM

Here's an interview with Randy Couture, Randy talks a little about his upcoming battle with Gabriel Gonzaga....

Randy Couture interview (http://www.ufccountdown.com/news/couture-talks-gonzaga-video/)

bourahioro

07-03-2007, 07:43 PM

UFC 73: JULY 7, 2007 IN SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA

Main Card Bouts:
-Anderson Silva (#2 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Nathan Marquardt (#7 Middleweight in the World)*
-Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#2 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Heath Herring
-Tito Ortiz (#9 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Rashad Evans
-Sean Sherk (#10 Lightweight in the World)* vs. Hermes Franca
-Kenny Florian vs. Alvin Robinson

Preliminary Bouts:
-Frankie Edgar vs. Mark Bocek
-Chris Lytle vs. Jason Gilliam
-Jorge Gurgel vs. Diego Saraiva
-Stephan Bonnar vs. Mike Nickels

UFC 74: AUGUST 25, 2007 IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA
venue: Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Nevada

-Randy Couture (#5 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (#6 Heavyweight in the World)*
-Georges St. Pierre (#2 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Josh Koscheck (#4 Welterweight in the World)*
-Hayato "Mach" Sakurai (#2 Lightweight in the World)* vs. Diego Sanchez (#6 Welterweight in the World)*
-Joe Stevenson vs. Kurt Pellegrino
-Renato "Babalu" Sobral vs. David Heath
-Kendall Grove vs. Patrick Cote
-Travis Lutter vs. Ryan Jensen

-Tim Sylvia (#7 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. TBA

UFC 75: SEPTEMBER 8, 2007 IN LONDON, ENGLAND

-Quinton Jackson (#2 Light Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Dan Henderson (#4 Light Heavyweight in the World)*
-Mirko Cro Cop (#3 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Cheick Kongo
-Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill
-Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
-Jess Liaudin vs. TBA
-Dennis Siver vs. TBA

DarkKnight81

07-03-2007, 10:32 PM

Sweet, those upcoming cards look great, I'm getting the PPV this Saturday as well.

bourahioro

07-13-2007, 06:21 PM

Quinton "Rampage" Jackson talks about the upcoming UFC game for the next gen systems....This shit looks tight!

Rampage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwFJS1ofpoM)

bourahioro

07-13-2007, 09:12 PM

source (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6460227.html)

I found this recent news very interesting:

“Spike TV is on the verge of pinning down a multiyear, multimillion-dollar renewal of its Ultimate Fighting Championship distribution deal, according to sources close to the network.

The new deal, which is expected to cost Spike in excess of $100 million, will allow the men’s-targeted network to keep its popular Ultimate Fighter reality series. The pact will also give Spike more live UFC events than the previous agreement, which expired at the end of last year.

Executives from Spike would not comment, and UFC executives could not be reached for comment at press time.”

DarkKnight81

07-15-2007, 11:36 AM

Fuck, looks like Liddell-Silva wont happen at the September PPV since Wanderlei says he wont fight until November. According to Dana White it may never happen now.

teenkiller

07-15-2007, 06:37 PM

I stopped watching the Ultimate Fighter after the fourth season. Watching a bunch of guys getting a second chance at the UFC instead of new hungry fighters just wasn't as appealing. I didn't even realize there WAS a fifth season until it was 3/4's over. Since I have had some time off from it though I will be getting back into the show if and when it returns to Spike. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

bourahioro

07-17-2007, 02:29 AM

UFC 75 is FREE on SpikeTV, kids!!

DarkKnight81

07-17-2007, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by bourahioro
UFC 75 is FREE on SpikeTV, kids!!

When???

unspoken

07-18-2007, 01:30 AM

UFC 75 is on Sept. 8, should be a good one with Rampage vs. Hendo. That's a really tough fight to call as both have the same strengths (wrestling, good hands with KO power, solid chin).

But in other good news, UFC 76 is two days after my birthday and has my favorite MMA fighter (Shogun) debuting. The original rumours were Machida being his opponent, but now it looks like Forrest Griffin gets to become Shogun's first victim in the octagon. I'm still considering going even though Chuck vs. Wand isn't happening and it's Chuck vs. Keith Jardine instead.

teenkiller

07-18-2007, 11:01 AM

I just checked and it's actually true. UFC champ Rampage will fight Pride champ Dan Henderson. Also, I will FINALLY get to see that Mike Bisping vs Matt Hamill fight that I wanted to see two years ago. Too bad I have to wait until September though. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

Tai Mai Jew

07-19-2007, 04:32 PM

Sean Sherk and Hermes Franco BOTH test + for Seroids...

mmaweekly.com

________________________________________________

Sherks belt will be stripped of him due to his one year suspension, its not official, but it's going to happen... and because of that, we're going to see a new lightweight champion in the next four months...

Probably BJ... well, either him or Florian...

DarkKnight81

07-19-2007, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Sean Sherk and Hermes Franco BOTH test + for Seroids...

mmaweekly.com

________________________________________________

Sherks belt will be stripped of him due to his one year suspension, its not official, but it's going to happen... and because of that, we're going to see a new lightweight champion in the next four months...

Probably BJ... well, either him or Florian...

Wow, I could see the steroids working on Sherk but Hermes is a little guy. Funny how they were both on it and they just fought.

bourahioro

07-24-2007, 01:28 AM

So.....who's gonna win? Gonzaga or Couture?

Tai Mai Jew

07-24-2007, 02:08 AM

Couture by natural selection...

DarkKnight81

07-27-2007, 07:45 AM

Naturally I want to say Couture but after seeing Gonzaga knock out Crocop and supposedly hes a better jiu jitsu fighter than striker I have to go with Gonzaga.

Tai Mai Jew

07-27-2007, 08:06 PM

For anyone who doesn't already know, the UFC and Dana White are on the verge of signing Fedor, the number one HW fighter in the world. We should know within the next couple of days whether or not he'll agree to the terms the UFC has given to him and his manager.

bourahioro

07-27-2007, 08:16 PM

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!! That would be so fucking awesome!!!!!

DarkKnight81

07-27-2007, 09:41 PM

Wow I hope so, last I heard he had no interest in fighting in the UFC.

Tai Mai Jew

07-28-2007, 12:34 AM

Fedor is interested, actually... but under UFC rules, you can't fight in other organizations (ie Sambo) when under contract... Fedor won't sign with the UFC if they won't let him participate in Sambo matches. I'm sure they can work something out, though. There's no reason why they can't.

And on a side note, apperently Fedors manager is trying to swindle some creative controll over Fedors name (if they were to sign), and Dana doesn't like it...

they just need to work it out, is all.

DarkKnight81

07-28-2007, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew

And on a side note, apperently Fedors manager is trying to swindle some creative controll over Fedors name (if they were to sign), and Dana doesn't like it...

What in the world could that be about?

Tai Mai Jew

07-28-2007, 01:36 AM

It's an advertising issue... they want to be able to flaunt their RED DEVIL TEAM logo on t-shirts, shorts, ets. that kind of crap. They even want the UFC to sign some of their other fighters too. But the main thing is with fedor fighing in Sambo competitions while under contract with the UFC.

bourahioro

07-28-2007, 08:35 AM

Fedor/UFC (http://www.ufccountdown.com/news/fedor-to-the-ufc-his-manager-talks/)

Sherdog.com: As Fedor’s manager, can you please fill us in on the current state of his contract negotiations.

VF: At the moment we are in negotiations with a number of organizations who have put offers on the table. I’ll be blunt in saying that the UFC offer is the most financially attractive one. However they are very harsh in their terms and are not very flexible in actually negotiating them.

Fedor has now been the PRIDE heavyweight champion for four years and I think we have earned the right to negotiate a contract that suits both parties. Instead we are faced with a blunt “you are either in or you’re out.” This does not really suit us. If the negotiations continue in a similar manner, we’ll prefer to fight for less money but with an organization which is more flexible.

The problem is that Fedor is the face of Combat Sambo in Russia. His popularity is at a level where he is acquainted with president Putin himself, in part because he is so successful and well known for Combat Sambo here.

Combat Sambo is a Russian sport that’s not at a level of difficulty of MMA, but is hugely popular with our public. Fedor must represent Russia in Combat Sambo and at world championships, specifically the ones coming up in September. All we want him to do is compete something like once a year in Combat Sambo. But the UFC is not happy with that.

Their proposal has all kinds of clauses, all kinds of fines etc. that do not suit us. The UFC is not really that eager to communicate and negotiate. The negotiations are still continuing, and we will try very hard to get our demands met, if not Fedor will simply not compete in the UFC, even though that will be unfortunate as they currently have one of the, if not the, strongest, heavyweight divisions in the world.

DarkKnight81

07-28-2007, 12:21 PM

What this boils down to is it important enough to the UFC to have the absolute best fighter in the world fighting in what they claim is the best fighting organization in the world. Pride was clearly better when it came to fighters but even though they have bought out their competition if they dont sign Fedor we will never truly know who the real Heavyweight Champion is. He is worth having to let him fight in Sambo once a year. Get over yourselves UFC and sign the best fighter in the world.

Tai Mai Jew

07-28-2007, 02:48 PM

Word... and considering the fact that both BJ Penn and Franklin fight (or have fought) in other organizations before while under their UFC contract, why can’t they let Fedor fight ONCE A YEAR in a Sambo tourney? And that’s excluding the fact that 80% of all the UFC fighters participate in BJJ tournaments, which, in my opinion, are way more dangerous than Sambo.

so it's not like the UFC can be afraid that Fedor will hurt himself, or whatever.

bourahioro

07-28-2007, 04:45 PM

I want Fedor in the UFC bad!! let's look at this from their standpoint for a second though....They got Cro Cop, and built him up, only to have him win his first match half-heartedly, and he lost his second fight badly (could have been a career ender).

I mean for Christ sakes...HERB DEAN fights at Cage Rage! I've seen lots of UFC regulars fight for King of the Cage, Cage Rage, Bodog, etc, etc....Fedor BEING #1 in the fucking WORLD should get some kind of slack, considering he's damned near impossible to beat.

I have a feeling that UFC will ease up, and give Fedor the stipulation he wants. Fedor will bring them more money.

unspoken

07-28-2007, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Tai Mai Jew
Word... and considering the fact that both BJ Penn and Franklin fight (or have fought) in other organizations before while under their UFC contract, why can’t they let Fedor fight ONCE A YEAR in a Sambo tourney? And that’s excluding the fact that 80% of all the UFC fighters participate in BJJ tournaments, which, in my opinion, are way more dangerous than Sambo.

so it's not like the UFC can be afraid that Fedor will hurt himself, or whatever.

That was back in the day when they only had 4 or 5 UFC's a year. They had to let guys fight elsewhere, otherwise they wouldn't be making enough to live on and barely anyone would be fighting. Also, Rich only had one UFC fight under his belt and wasn't exactly a hot commodity at the time, even in the days where MMA wasn't nearly as popular, simply because he was new to the scene.

As far as BJ goes, he was punished for fighting outside the UFC by having the WW title stripped from him and his contract terminated.

unspoken

07-28-2007, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by bourahioro
I want Fedor in the UFC bad!! let's look at this from their standpoint for a second though....They got Cro Cop, and built him up, only to have him win his first match half-heartedly, and he lost his second fight badly (could have been a career ender).

I mean for Christ sakes...HERB DEAN fights at Cage Rage! I've seen lots of UFC regulars fight for King of the Cage, Cage Rage, Bodog, etc, etc....Fedor BEING #1 in the fucking WORLD should get some kind of slack, considering he's damned near impossible to beat.

I have a feeling that UFC will ease up, and give Fedor the stipulation he wants. Fedor will bring them more money.

Word on the street is there's different sticking points other than the Sambo tourneys. This is all rumour of course, but apparently Fedor's manager wants to stick his hand quite far into the cookie jar and have control over things like a UFC TV deal in Russia, promoting an event in Russia, and tying several of Fedor's teammates to his contract, essentially getting them UFC deals too.

As far as Herb Dean goes, sure they might be pissed that he fought in Cage Rage, but it's not like they can do anything about it. He's not a UFC employee, and they have no control over who does and does not referee certain events. That is all determined by the athletic commission overseeing the event. And the others that have fought for other promotions are in one of two situations:

1) They were told by the UFC to go back to a smaller organization and pick up a win there before having another UFC fight.
2) Their contracts either expired and weren't renewed, or the fighters were released from their contract early.