shawshank redemption sucks

[yorrick brown]

found this in a magazine i was reading


:eek:


"fear can hold you prisoner.hope can set you free."


So reads the tagline for the 1995 prison drama "classic" .Actually ,thats the job oof the state parole board.Or in this case,a six inch rock pick PLEASE.
The shawshank is shit FACT.
This cinematic fiasco relies almost entirely on misplaced sentmentality.The audience end up cherishing murders and rapists like they`re cuddly little puppies that wouldn`t harm a fly or a human.

Uhm thats why they are in there in the first place.

Director frank darabont adapted the script from the short story by stephen king.SHORT STORY!!!!.King obviously felt that it could be told in a few words.So why Darabont felt the need to torture us for over two hours of this shit is beyond me.

Redemption justifably failed at ,FAILDED MISERABLY at the box office and only found its audience later on,becoming one of the higgest grossing video rentals EVER!.Its this kind of posthumous regonition thats sucks the most.

In 2007 the AMERICAN FILM INSTITUTE ranked this as number 72nd GREATEST AMERICAN MOVIEOF ALL TIME.Ok? it wasn`t on the previous list compiled in 1998.how can that be?The flim hasn`t changed.Nothing has been added or taken away.If it wasn`t good enough in 1998,then surely its not good enough now.

Even worse than that, SHITshank consistently tops various polls proclaming it to be the best movie ever made.SIGH

This travesty merely confrims what i`ve always suspected:the movie going(or in this case video renting) public wouldn`t know a decent film if it came up and whacked them in the face..with a six inch rock pick.

who will be brave enough to agree

[Le_Big_Mac]

I'll agree that the movie is emotionally manipulative (is there really much depth to story about a guy trying to escape for a crime he didn't commit) and among the most overrated movies of all time. But I found it entertaining enough while it lasted not to really hate it.

[a7xfan]

yes it may be overrated, but for good reasoning, this film had everything. all the characteristics that makes the perfect film. and the person writing that mag article needs hit in the balls with a very heavy mallet.

i don't think i need to defend this movie at all really, people can see how good it is.

[Orson-Cockart]

Shawshank -- without analysing it too much -- is a wonderful, heart-warming film. Reading the novella it was based on, and looking at the film more closely, creates a different perspective; Red was a murderer, and we're being manipulated to feel sorry for them. 2nd best film of all time? not even close. I much preferred Bresson's similar film, A Man Escaped.

Shawshank - 7/10
A Man Escaped - 9/10

[yorrick brown]

i didn`t even think about them been murders or why they`re in prsion untill i read that.

i thought what a great bunch of guys and that the prison guards should be there in their place.

i`ll have to see if he`s ever writing about the green mile?

[NuclearMisfit]

I dont care, Morgan Freeman can read from the phone book for an entire 2 hour movie I would be pretty fucking entertained.

No need to defend the movie to people that are just out there to bash it. All because some of the characters could have committed murder before being sent to Shawshank doesn't hold up in this review because its not about what they did thus the "lawyer fucked me" line.

[DaMovieMan]

Definitely a great movie. Definitely overrated.

8/10

I can see what he means about the over sentimentality especially with Red, but it was still a great story.

[Bourne101]

One of the greatest films of all-time.

10/10

[cloneofkelso]

this is the best prison film ever made,no other prison movie even comes close the 2nd greatest prison movie of all time has to be Escape from Alcatraz

[Homyrrh]

Or commentate an epic on pleasure-deprived penguins for as long :rolleyes

Damn Bourne, you'd be rich if you didn't drop so many dimes...heh heh.

Solid film; reeks of greatness.

[athf1980]

it's defently one of the greatest prison movies of all time.

[Bourne101]

Damn Bourne, you'd be rich if you didn't drop so many dimes...heh heh.

Well, it seems as though every thread made in the past few weeks in the General Movie Talk forum have been about films that are considered some of the best of all time among many, so I don't have much choice. I mean:

The Shawshank Redemption- #2 on IMDB top 250
Goodfellas- #15 on IMDB top 250
Pulp Fiction- #5 on IMDB top 250
The Departed- #42 on IMDB top 250

And I don't want to debate about IMDB's top 250 being unreliable, because in all honesty, all the classics are on it. You won't find many classics, bests, and favorites that aren't on the list. There are some that should be closer to the top, and some that shouldn't be on there, but most of those just end up off the list after a few months, or on the latter part of the list anyway. And all of those films (save for The Departed) are on AFI's top 100 list, so my dimes were well worth dropping. ;)

[therealjohng]

greatest film of all-time.

10/10



Fixed.

[Powerslave]

Shawshank is one of the best, ever. Not overrated, not manipulative. And his comment about the audience being made to sympathize with murderers and rapists is moronic.

10/10
I dont care, Morgan Freeman can read from the phone book for an entire 2 hour movie I would be pretty fucking entertained.
Always a good point. If they played tapes Morgan Freeman reading poetry to babies instead of Mozart, there would be no war.

[KcMsterpce]

I get the original writer's attempt at biting sarcasm and pushing the non-conformist angle while trying to troll for hate mail so he can relish in proving others wrong...

I just don't think it's very well written, nor funny.


I think it's a great movie, but I can enjoy a review that doesn't have the same opinion as me. For example a review I read on GARDEN STATE. I think it's a great movie, but this one guy HATED it, and I laughed at the points he made for hating it. I even understood where he was coming from. But I still like that movie.

[Powerslave]

I just don't think it's very well written, nor funny.
I was actually gonna bring this up: is this just paraphrased, or is this an actual excerpt from a magazine? Because this is just terribly written. I can't see how this could make it's way into any halfway-respectable magazine.

[yorrick brown]

I was actually gonna bring this up: is this just paraphrased, or is this an actual excerpt from a magazine? Because this is just terribly written. I can't see how this could make it's way into any halfway-respectable magazine.


word for word.

I read it and typed it at the same time.So the spelling mistakes are mine (oof lol) .

but the caplocks on certain words were in what i read.

[Gordon]

Shawshank is one of those movies that if you tell me right off the bat you don't like it, you have to show you have some sort of film knowledge or else I won't take you seriously.

[Kevin Smith fan]

Shawshank Redemption was pretty underwhelming to me after all the build up I'd heard prior; and while it was an overall pretty decent film, I really didn't feel that it lived up to its legendary status. Besides dragging out a plot to double the time necessary to tell the story here, it also finds itself guilty of cruching on supposidly emotional sequences which aren't really all that emotional. I give it a 79/100

[AceD]

What magazine was this in? I seriously want to know what publication would employ or publish this idiot.

Hear me out: I'm not saying he's dumb for not liking the movie. However, I'll point out just a few things:

"Or in this case,a six inch rock pick PLEASE.
The shawshank is shit FACT."

Apparently this guy doesn't like movies that have elements that are not realistic. I think we can conclude that this guy does not like any movie, ever.

"This cinematic fiasco relies almost entirely on misplaced sentmentality.The audience end up cherishing murders and rapists like they`re cuddly little puppies that wouldn`t harm a fly or a human."

Apparently this guy believes rape and murder are the only crimes that one serves time in prison for, not to mention the fact that he doesn't have any room in his small mind to believe in forgiveness or the power to change. And then, you know, there's that, uh, little fact that the one you are supposed to have the most sympathy for IS ACTUALLY INNOCENT!!!

"Director frank darabont adapted the script from the short story by stephen king.SHORT STORY!!!!.King obviously felt that it could be told in a few words.So why Darabont felt the need to torture us for over two hours of this shit is beyond me."

This is where the writer most reveals his idiocy. ALL GREAT MOVIES ARE SHORT STORIES. Period. Some take place over a long period of time, obviously, but the essence is of a short story. Roger Ebert has written about this often, and it's absolutely true. Movies based on novels break them down into short story form. When they don't, they SEEM long or overplotted and are bad. Every great movie can be expressed in a great short story.

"If it wasn`t good enough in 1998,then surely its not good enough now."

This statement is so unbelieveably simple minded that it's not even funny.

"This travesty merely confrims what i`ve always suspected:the movie going(or in this case video renting) public wouldn`t know a decent film if it came up and whacked them in the face..with a six inch rock pick."

Is this the whole article? This guy's whole moronic piece is about his opinion, it'd be useful to know a movie he does like.

I feel dumber for even addressing this.

[yorrick brown]

the magazine is called FILM LINK.its the australian version of empire i guess you would call it.

[Frank the Tank]

I love it and it's still one of my favorite movies ever. The only flaw I see with it (A very small one) is some bad dialogue and bad dialouge delivery from several of the side characters. One example is:

The line "TO HELL YOU SAY" from the Tommy character is really cheesy and cringe worthy. Maybe it's in his goofy delivery.

[thedudeman69]

I personally find The Green Mile better than Shawnshank after watching Mile. Shawnshank is a really good film. It kept my attention for the running time, and it had some solid acting from Freeman and Robbins.

[dman476]

It's odd that this came today because with The Mist out, I've lately been reminiscing about Darabont's past features. There was something in the special features of the Mist that sort of put me in an odd mood. One of the producers of the film said that Frank always craves showing the monster in horror films, and this makes me think about the Green Mile. He showed those executions from the first step to the last and in excruciating detail. This makes me wonder if this is just a Darabont quirk or genuine manipulation, and after watching The Mist -- I don't know what to think.
I love the Mist, but I've been having all kinds of muddling thoughts about Darabont as of late, and the b/w version of that film didn't help matters.

Rest assured, Shawshank is a brilliant film that does not manipulate. It's genuinely touching and that guy doesn't know what he's talking about. I don't care if he didn't like it, but his reasoning is quite moronic. Sorry.

[Tweek]

found this in a magazine i was reading


:eek:


"fear can hold you prisoner.hope can set you free."


So reads the tagline for the 1995 prison drama "classic" .Actually ,thats the job oof the state parole board.Or in this case,a six inch rock pick PLEASE.
The shawshank is shit FACT.
This cinematic fiasco relies almost entirely on misplaced sentmentality.The audience end up cherishing murders and rapists like they`re cuddly little puppies that wouldn`t harm a fly or a human.

Uhm thats why they are in there in the first place.

Director frank darabont adapted the script from the short story by stephen king.SHORT STORY!!!!.King obviously felt that it could be told in a few words.So why Darabont felt the need to torture us for over two hours of this shit is beyond me.



Who wrote this? First off, if he/she can't suspend disbelief in relation to that... Eh. I didn't see Based on a True Story anywhere. Glavin!

About the short story bit... This person is making it sound like a work of flash fiction! I have that book Different Seasons and it's not that at all.

Yeah, give us the scoop! What periodical was this taken from? (Or did YOU write it!)

[The Postmaster General]

In 2007 the AMERICAN FILM INSTITUTE ranked this as number 72nd GREATEST AMERICAN MOVIEOF ALL TIME.Ok? it wasn`t on the previous list compiled in 1998.how can that be?The flim hasn`t changed.Nothing has been added or taken away.If it wasn`t good enough in 1998,then surely its not good enough now.



Says the guy writing the review over 10 years after the movie came out.

[yorrick brown]

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Yeah, give us the scoop! What periodical was this taken from? (Or did YOU write it!)

You caught me i have a vendetta.




no its from march 2008,page 40 .JUMPER is on the cover.

[Obergeist]

the magazine is called FILM LINK.its the australian version of empire i guess you would call it.

What about the Australian edition of Empire? Wouldn't you call that the Australian version.

Film Link is a a minor publication. You might as well call it street press. It's that rubbish.

[rocknblues81]

It's my favorite movie of all time and one of the best movies all time no matter if the haters like it or not.

[Monotreme]

I'm actually far less shocked at the content of the article, and far more shocked about the article itself. This was actually PUBLISHED? In a semi-respectable film magazine (in Australia at least)? I mean seriously - this article looks like it was written by a 15-year-old IMDb troll who probably isn't doing too well in school. How could something so poorly written actually be PUBLISHED as a legitimate arguement in a film magazine? Let's just say that based on the publishing of this article alone, I can safely say that Film Link has pretty poor judgement. I mean, the article literally negates all rules of journalism!

And as to the content... who cares. There are always people who will hate on the undisputable greatest movies of all time just to have their voice heard. Almost all of his arguements are not arguements at all but rather his own (twisted and EXTREMELY hyperboled) opinion which he tries to pass as arguements. But ultimately... with an article written as if it were some average IMDb troll posting it on the forums there are containing unrealistic, exaggerated hyperbole, how can anyone possibly take this text seriously?

[vesaker]

Wow that was almost painful to read. I bet this guy can't wait to see Superhero movie.

Shawshank was a great story with great characters with great actors who brough it all to life. I think the purpose of it was to show that just cause these guys are in jail doesn't mean they are the only bad ppl out thereand infact there are worse ones where you might least expect it.

And i mean isn't the purpose of jail, aside from keep dangerous ppl out of society, to put some one where they have almost nothing to do but think about where they are and why in hope they see the error of their ways and change and then hopefully be reintroduced as a functioning member of society?

And Ace D nailed it about the short story thing, just cause that was the source material doesn't mean there isn't enough there to do something great with it. I mean fuck, The Thing and American Psycho were short stories orginially and those are amazing movies.

P.S. heh Yorrick i actually thought you yourself were saying that you thought Shawshank sucked until i read your post, lol.

[Monotreme]

My history of film teacher always likened the different film mediums and their parallels in literature as such:

Short film - poetry; too short to actually portray a plot or a change in the character, but perfect to create a scene or an atmosphere, and perhaps go further and enter a more symbolic realm and distance itself from the tangible.

Feature film - short story; long enough to establish a single journey/event/change in the life of one or perhaps a handful of characters, but not long enough to tell a lengthy, continuous story going into every detail and portraying every event.

Miniseries or TV series - novel; the theoretically endless length of the format allows for a very large abundance of characters and depiction in detail of the events that fill their lives over the course of a long time.

So actually, it makes the most sense to adapt short stories into feature films that will remain totally faithful: while when adapting novels one will always have to trim and simplify.

[Cass Money]

Says the guy writing the review over 10 years after the movie came out.

BLAH! So funny!

I liked it, maybe I'll rewatch it, I'm curious about the emotional manipulation. :)