Brett Ratner

[copious]

I fucking hate him.

That's all I got to say about that.

[vesaker]

I fucking hate him.

That's all I got to say about that.

if you're not a hot chick intern for him to bang, he doesn't care.

[RicochetShaw]

Best rant I've seen in a while - this guy single-handedly ruined the X-Men franchise. Complete hack.

[JohnLocke2342]

X-Men 3. Wow.. what could have been... what could have been. What could have been.

That movie was a fucking piece of shit. You could tell the entire time that Hugh Jackman was so pissed. He didn't bring the wolverine that we saw in the first two.

[Brendan M.]

X-Men 3. Wow.. what could have been... what could have been. What could have been.

That movie was a fucking piece of shit. You could tell the entire time that Hugh Jackman was so pissed. He didn't bring the wolverine that we saw in the first two.

Good thing he's got a solo film coming out with a real director attached.

[LordSimen]

He's not that bad he's just not that great either. He's average. Doesn't really have anything unique or flavorful about him. He gets the job done and sometimes the job is good (Red Dragon) and other times it's just bad. Plus I think all things considered and given the restrictions, X-men 3 could have came out much worse than it did.

[jaw2929]

Loved X3, absolutely loved it. I think X2 was the best, but X3 was a close 2nd. Also enjoyed the first X-flick too. Not sure the hate for X3 or Ratner for that matter. But whatever.

[copious]

He's not that bad he's just not that great either. He's average. Doesn't really have anything unique or flavorful about him. He gets the job done and sometimes the job is good (Red Dragon) and other times it's just bad. Plus I think all things considered and given the restrictions, X-men 3 could have came out much worse than it did.

I can respect that, and I once felt the same. That was until I saw X-3, that was the turning point in my life when I felt Brett Ratner was a complete fuck-up. I HATED him after that movie. But that's not what made me disguisted by him, watching X-3 while listening to his commentary is what pushed me over the edge. The guy is SOOOO into himself. He kept talking about how HE did this and HE did that and HE was happy with what HE did in this scene. It made me sick. I wish Bruce Campbell would pull the "boomstick" on his ass and blow him to a hell where there is nothing but Hootie and the Blowfish playing in the background, naked drag queens constantly trying to feel you up, and creepy Hilary Clinton looking midgets sucking helium out of balloons and repeating the phrase, "welcome to munchkin land bitch". But that's just me.

[FatSakHead]

The most mediocre director in Hollywood. A worthless piece of shit if there ever was one.

I mean, we're talking about a director whose most accomplished film is a cliched sassy black guy meets goofy asian buddy action comedy. A director who made the absolute worst films in the Hannibal Lecter and X-Men series. And this hack has the NERVE to go on a reality show about amateur film directors and criticize other people's (much better) work.

Fuck him.

[shoe1985]

I have no problem with the guy. I enjoyed Money Talks, the Rush Hour movies. They are not great movies, but all I want is to laugh from comedies, I did for these movies. Red Dragon was a good movie too.

I thought X-Men 3 was really good. Was it as good as the previous two? No, but when you change directors, you usually get a new feel. For it being rushed as it was, I thought he did a great job on it.

[Shockwave]

I dont care for him at all, but he was NOT to blame for X3.

That thing had such a rushed script and production time that it just wasnt funny. All in some pathetic attempt to beat SUPERMAN RETURNS out of the gate cause they were pissed at Singer.

Blame FOX for that one.

He still sucks, but ill let him slide for that one considering what he managed to pull out wasnt all that terrible. The scene where Prof. X "dies" was the best scene in all 3 movies.

[FatSakHead]

I dont care for him at all, but he was NOT to blame for X3.

That thing had such a rushed script and production time that it just wasnt funny. All in some pathetic attempt to beat SUPERMAN RETURNS out of the gate cause they were pissed at Singer.

Blame FOX for that one.

He still sucks, but ill let him slide for that one considering what he managed to pull out wasnt all that terrible. The scene where Prof. X "dies" was the best scene in all 3 movies.

There was shit in that movie that was just obviously bad, shit like "I can't believe a serious director put this in an X-Man movie" that can't be blamed on rushed production alone. The dialogue is horrendous as well. The "I'm the Juggernaut bitch!" line had me rolling my eyes.

[bigred760]

Where the first two Rush Hour movies were pretty enjoyable, the third was God awful. And while I though the 3rd X-movie was crap, I don't entirely blame him . . . he is partly to blame, just not 100%. He's not a very talented director, but he has his moments.

[copious]

I dont care for him at all, but he was NOT to blame for X3.

That thing had such a rushed script and production time that it just wasnt funny. All in some pathetic attempt to beat SUPERMAN RETURNS out of the gate cause they were pissed at Singer.

Blame FOX for that one.

He still sucks, but ill let him slide for that one considering what he managed to pull out wasnt all that terrible. The scene where Prof. X "dies" was the best scene in all 3 movies.

You know what, I may give him SOME slack for FOX, ONLY if this is somewhat accurate information, BUT, I can almost guarantee you if Singer would have done the 3rd one it would have still been much better. I'm not one to get completely pissed if a franchise or series changes directors either, sometimes it works out better. I REALLY wish Mathew Vaughn would have stuck with the project, I think it would have been so much better compared to Rat-shit.

I know there are worse directors out there and I know Ratner isn't the worst, but by God I would have no problem pulling a "Kickboxer" and fighting him with wrapped cloth around our forearms and glued broken glass on them. I can bet that will be his "Last Stand".

[Shockwave]

You know what, I may give him SOME slack for FOX, ONLY if this is somewhat accurate information, BUT, I can almost guarantee you if Singer would have done the 3rd one it would have still been much better. I'm not one to get completely pissed if a franchise or series changes directors either, sometimes it works out better. I REALLY wish Mathew Vaughn would have stuck with the project, I think it would have been so much better compared to Rat-shit.

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If Singer would have done X3 it would have 100x better.

He just GOT these characters, and even with a rushed script i think he could have/would have made some fast changes to improve the movie greatly.

Im just saying that the way the movie was headed, it didnt turn out completely terrible. I didnt hate it, and i didnt really love it either. It bounces from one scene i love to another scene that looks rushed as hell. Same with the writing. One great scene followed by one painful one.

Actualy, if Singer would have been on board i think it would have been the best X movie yet, because i dont think FOX would have given him more time. Like i said, it was a pissing match.

Wonder why CYCLOPS got killed in X3, but was a pivitol role in SUPERMAN RETURNS? Theres your answer.

[someguy]

I remember that Fox show On The Lot where it was basically American Idol but for directors (they would make a short film every week and then viewers would vote for their favourite) and in the first elimination competitions Brett Ratner was one of the judges. I felt so bad for those contestants. I could handle Carrie Fisher and Garry Marshall criticizing me but I don't know how I would sit there and take criticism from Brett Ratner. I just find him to be a lowest common denominator director for hire type. His work is just really soulless to me, it comes off like he's just looking at directing as nothing but a job.

[echo_bravo]

I fucking hate him.

That's all I got to say about that.

Short, sweet and to the point. Very nice!

[copious]

I remember that Fox show On The Lot where it was basically American Idol but for directors (they would make a short film every week and then viewers would vote for their favourite) and in the first elimination competitions Brett Ratner was one of the judges. I felt so bad for those contestants. I could handle Carrie Fisher and Garry Marshall criticizing me but I don't know how I would sit there and take criticism from Brett Ratner. I just find him to be a lowest common denominator director for hire type. His work is just really soulless to me, it comes off like he's just looking at directing as nothing but a job.

Well put! I mean it's just like Paula Abdul being a judge for American Idol, she has NO RIGHT to judge singers cause she can't sing worth shit! That's exactly how I feel about Ratner, the no talent ass-clown! I'm sorry but if I had someone like him judging me I would have NO respect for his opinion. Hell, as much as I would hate to say this I would rather listen to Mike Bay judge my shit than Ratner. I would take Pearl Harbor over most the shit Ratner did and that's saying a lot.

[Monotreme]

God I couldn't agree more. Biggest mistake of Spielberg's career was having Amblin entertainment fund this guy's thesis film and get him through film school. Seriously, thanks on behalf of all the Jews for making Schindler's List and all, Mr. Berg, but did you REALLY have to give THIS guy, of all aspiring directors, a chance at filmmaking? Because he's failed, miserably. I agree that he's not necessarily a BAD director in Uwe Boll proportions, but he's just too normal for anything he does to be considered worth anything more than industrial stock work. It seems that his name is always attached to projects who have director problems. It's like "oh, we hate Bryan Singer for agreeing to do Superman Returns for WB but we've already set the release date for X-Men 3 for 6 months from now and we can't change it... alright, let's bring Brett Ratner on to do a quick hack job. The movie doesn't have to be good, it'll make money anyway." I also remember his name being tossed around regarding another project that had director problems but was like weeks away from filming, so they just brought on a hack to do a quick clean-up job - The Wolf Man.

Seriously, when Rush Hour 3 came out last summer and it said "A Brett Ratner Film" like 50 times in the trailer, including as PART OF THE VOICE OVER which is something that even Spielberg doesn't do, I just wanted to KILL him. I have no problem with director's claiming a film as their own - but only if they've actually done something to prove that they are worthy auteurs. Martin Scorsese is allowed to call his movies a "Martin Scorsese film". Spielberg is allowed to, Tim Burton is allowed to, Tarantino is allowed to, PT Anderson is allowed to. But I'm sorry, with a track record including shitfests such as 3 Rush Hour movies, Mariah Carey music videos, Red Dragon and X-Men 3, he is most certainly NOT allowed to use his name to sell a movie. Fucking pompous dick ass shitbag. And I hope he's reading this because someone really needs to tell him.

[copious]

God I couldn't agree more. Biggest mistake of Spielberg's career was having Amblin entertainment fund this guy's thesis film and get him through film school. Seriously, thanks on behalf of all the Jews for making Schindler's List and all, Mr. Berg, but did you REALLY have to give THIS guy, of all aspiring directors, a chance at filmmaking? Because he's failed, miserably. I agree that he's not necessarily a BAD director in Uwe Boll proportions, but he's just too normal for anything he does to be considered worth anything more than industrial stock work. It seems that his name is always attached to projects who have director problems. It's like "oh, we hate Bryan Singer for agreeing to do Superman Returns for WB but we've already set the release date for X-Men 3 for 6 months from now and we can't change it... alright, let's bring Brett Ratner on to do a quick hack job. The movie doesn't have to be good, it'll make money anyway." I also remember his name being tossed around regarding another project that had director problems but was like weeks away from filming, so they just brought on a hack to do a quick clean-up job - The Wolf Man.

Seriously, when Rush Hour 3 came out last summer and it said "A Brett Ratner Film" like 50 times in the trailer, including as PART OF THE VOICE OVER which is something that even Spielberg doesn't do, I just wanted to KILL him. I have no problem with director's claiming a film as their own - but only if they've actually done something to prove that they are worthy auteurs. Martin Scorsese is allowed to call his movies a "Martin Scorsese film". Spielberg is allowed to, Tim Burton is allowed to, Tarantino is allowed to, PT Anderson is allowed to. But I'm sorry, with a track record including shitfests such as 3 Rush Hour movies, Mariah Carey music videos, Red Dragon and X-Men 3, he is most certainly NOT allowed to use his name to sell a movie. Fucking pompous dick ass shitbag. And I hope he's reading this because someone really needs to tell him.

If there was an Anti-Brett Ratner Campaign you would have my vote to lead it! Everything you stated was just too perfect for words. You have my full respect now Mono, beautiful speech!

[Cronos]

While I have enjoyed a number of his films he really isn't a good director. X-Men 3 should have been so much better.

[scottmushroom]

The most mediocre director in Hollywood. A worthless piece of shit if there ever was one.

I mean, we're talking about a director whose most accomplished film is a cliched sassy black guy meets goofy asian buddy action comedy. A director who made the absolute worst films in the Hannibal Lecter and X-Men series. And this hack has the NERVE to go on a reality show about amateur film directors and criticize other people's (much better) work.

Fuck him.
You thought Red Dragon was worse than Hannibal Rising?!?!:eek:

[Monotreme]

If there was an Anti-Brett Ratner Campaign you would have my vote to lead it! Everything you stated was just too perfect for words. You have my full respect now Mono, beautiful speech!

Thanks! I was thinking of using it as a basis for my presidential campaign in a few years, glad to know at least one person is on board. Would you like to be my commander in chief?

[FatSakHead]

You thought Red Dragon was worse than Hannibal Rising?!?!:eek:

Ooops, forgot about that one, but I've never seen Hannibal Rising, and like to pretend it doesn't exist.

[Scarfather]

Brett Ratner is the kind of guy the Romans used to impale from the ass up.

[scottmushroom]

Ooops, forgot about that one, but I've never seen Hannibal Rising, and like to pretend it doesn't exist.
Yeah it sucked.....yet I own the DVD....damn my need to have all entries of a series...

[echo_bravo]

I wonder if Ratner has any idea of how many people hate his no talent ass?

Well, anyways I wouldnt despise the guy so much if he didnt think he was the shit. I see him in interviews and he is so cocky and arrogant its not even funny.

[FatSakHead]

If Brett Ratner slipped on a banana peel, fell, broke his neck, lost all feeling below his neck, and got shat on by a homeless guy with AIDS, I'd be happy.

[copious]

Thanks! I was thinking of using it as a basis for my presidential campaign in a few years, glad to know at least one person is on board. Would you like to be my commander in chief?

Mono, it would be a true honor. I couldn't be any more honored if Tom Cruise himself let me stab him with a samurai sword and end his life.

[bonoferox]

I enjoyed Red Dragon more than the other Lecter installments, enjoyed the first two Rush Hours, but hated (like many) X3. I'm just glad he wasn't totally given Superman...

[FatSakHead]

I enjoyed Red Dragon more than the other Lecter installments, enjoyed the first two Rush Hours, but hated (like many) X3. I'm just glad he wasn't totally given Superman...

Are you kidding? Red Dragon was dull, lifeless, void of any suspense, and featured a lame serial killer. It didn't even feel like a Hannibal Lecter movie, the guy had like what, 5-10 minutes of screen time?

The biggest problem with Red Dragon though was it had no energy, style, or passion whatsoever in it. Like someguy said earlier, the vibe you get from watching Brett Ratner movies is a non movie-lover just looking at directing as a job, and Red Dragon is a big example of that.

[copious]

Well, anyways I wouldnt despise the guy so much if he didnt think he was the shit. I see him in interviews and he is so cocky and arrogant its not even funny.

Which is EXACTLY why I can't stand him! I rented X3 when it first came to DVD, ONLY cause I hated this one so much in the theater I was willing to give it another shot, and I watched it with the commentary by Brett and the writers. THAT is when I truly starting despising the arrogant prick. I forget who the writers are but they would be talking about how good an actor did in a scene and he would start shooting off how he was so happy with how HE did the shot and how well HE pulled it off and blah blah blah. I was like, are you kidding me!? It was all about him! Oh and how it was HIS idea to do the Golden Gate bridge scene at the end instead of the middle of the movie which was originally planned.

So yeah, I'm with ya echo.

[KcMsterpce]

... they would be talking about how good an actor did in a scene and he would start shooting off how he was so happy with how HE did the shot and how well HE pulled it off and blah blah blah. I was like, are you kidding me!? It was all about him! Oh and how it was HIS idea to do the Golden Gate bridge scene at the end instead of the middle of the movie which was originally planned.

Maybe I'm off the mark on this, but a movie director is usually the person who plans the shooting angles, how actors will say and do what they do, and work closely with everyone on the movie to make sure it's the way the DIRECTOR wants it to look.

So I'm mystified by someone who's upset with the director being happy with their own creation.
If it was Hugh Jackman saying "Yeah, I love the way I had this shot set up, and the way I chose to say that line, and how I suggested switching things around a bit on the story..." I would be wondering why the hell Tom Cruise was doing a commentary.

I haven't heard his commentary, so maybe he IS an arrogant prick, but I don't care when the director is happy with his final work.
If I hate a movie, and the commentary/documentary keeps mentioning how ingenius and beautiful the flick is... I disagree and get annoyed as hell, but it's THEIR vision, and THEIR project. If they are happy with it, that's good for them.
I like to check out what directors have to say about their movies, though, because they're not always happy with it. Then it's fun when I feel like I'm in the same vibe of appreciation as the director with his/her movie. They say, "Yeah, this sucks. I don't know what I was thinking." And I agree. It's funny that way.

[bonoferox]

Are you kidding? Red Dragon was dull, lifeless, void of any suspense, and featured a lame serial killer. It didn't even feel like a Hannibal Lecter movie, the guy had like what, 5-10 minutes of screen time?

The biggest problem with Red Dragon though was it had no energy, style, or passion whatsoever in it. Like someguy said earlier, the vibe you get from watching Brett Ratner movies is a non movie-lover just looking at directing as a job, and Red Dragon is a big example of that.

Nope. Not kidding. Just an opinion.

[copious]

Maybe I'm off the mark on this, but a movie director is usually the person who plans the shooting angles, how actors will say and do what they do, and work closely with everyone on the movie to make sure it's the way the DIRECTOR wants it to look.

So I'm mystified by someone who's upset with the director being happy with their own creation.
If it was Hugh Jackman saying "Yeah, I love the way I had this shot set up, and the way I chose to say that line, and how I suggested switching things around a bit on the story..." I would be wondering why the hell Tom Cruise was doing a commentary.

I haven't heard his commentary, so maybe he IS an arrogant prick, but I don't care when the director is happy with his final work.
If I hate a movie, and the commentary/documentary keeps mentioning how ingenius and beautiful the flick is... I disagree and get annoyed as hell, but it's THEIR vision, and THEIR project. If they are happy with it, that's good for them.
I like to check out what directors have to say about their movies, though, because they're not always happy with it. Then it's fun when I feel like I'm in the same vibe of appreciation as the director with his/her movie. They say, "Yeah, this sucks. I don't know what I was thinking." And I agree. It's funny that way.

There is a BIG difference in being proud of your work and being arrogant and thinking you're directing is the ONLY thing that was good about the movie because THAT'S how he came across. There would be NOTHING wrong if one of the writers were like, "I really liked how you set this shot up and focused on this and blah blah" and the director agreed and talked about it but that's not what he did.

Example and spoiler: when Angel's character was a boy and it showed him in the bathroom cutting off his wings in the beginning, the two writers were talking about how good the kid did in that role and how good his acting was, but Mr. Ratner (the arrogant cock) just started talking about his directing of the scene and completely changed the subject of their comment. He made it sound as if it was all because of HIM that the scene was done well in whole, not JUST the directing. That's what I got from it and that's my point. It's ALL about the Rat in his movies, no one else matters. That's the impression I got when I listened to that commentary.

[echo_bravo]

Edward Norton clowns on Red Dragon all the time in interviews. He is so embarrassed by it.:D

[DareDevil]

Brett Ratner is a bitch, the guy openly admits the first time he had a "sexual experience" was with a man... here's the kicker... he thought it was a women... what a bitch/fagot... Ratner should burn in hell.

[barryallen_thef]

I think the ppl that need to blame is TPTB @ Fox for deciding to rush this movie out ahead of Superman Return because they didnt like Singer decision to jump ship to go do Superman Return @ WB.

what TPTB @ FOX should have done is stop smoking pipe and their head out of their ass..take a breather and sign him like Sony did with Raimi with the Spider-Man movies....but NOOOOO!!! they had to drag it out so much that when WB came knocking after Ratner left that Project..he took it and thats where Ratner comes in..but before that it was Matthew Vaughn but considering the power struggle he had with FOX...its no wonder he left the project......hell they promoted the hell out of Angel and look @ what we got!! probably no more then 5 scenes...and for what? for him to fly out of the window and towards the end fly in to rescue his father? please!!! everything bout the movie was so wrong and despite the so-so writing..Singer would have done 10x better than Ratner did..considering the time constrain that he had(mind you IM NOT defending the guy)but if he would have thought bout it and be a fan that he claim to be..he wouldnt have done a hack job of it and literally(like Schumacher did with Batman & Robin) ruin the franchise n flush it down the toilet.

[Kevin Smith fan]

What has Ratner done that Michael Bay hasn't? I personally don't mind Ratner. Money Talks was decent, and the first Rush Hour was hilarious. Its two sequels progressively worsened, but he also gave us the only other good Hannible Lecter film. Red Dragon showed great promise for the director, and really put fear back into the series. As far as X3 is concerned, I honestly didn't think it was all that bad. Take out some of the one-liners and its right on par with the rest of the series.

Bay, on the other hand, has ruined Transformers, Pearl Harbor, and has financed the remake of just about every horror classic. This guy is a douche.

[FatSakHead]

I've never seen Hannibal Rising but Red Dragon was the clear cut worst Hannibal movie I've ever seen. Hannibal was good, gory fun, but Red Dragon felt like a dry, vanilla version of Silence of the Lambs.

[copious]

Red Dragon def doesn't have the same dark feel that The Silence and Hannibal had, BUT I will admit it was a shit load better than Hannibal Rising. I thought Silence and Hannibal were extremely great and dark movies of the franchise, Lector was a pure nightmare in those movies and I loved it. I thought the cast was great in Red Dragon but the movie itself was poor. I still need to watch Manhunter, I am so ashamed I haven't seen that yet. I mean Mike Mann for God's sake, now THAT'S a talented director. Think about it, Demme, Scott and Mann, then you have Ratner, blah. I don't remember who did Rising but to me that's not even worth mentioning.

[The Postmaster General]

Yeah, I was just about to mention that to get a good idea of Ratner's talent, contrast Red Dragon and Manhunter. It's the difference between walking through a Kandinsky gallery and looking at a paint by numbers book.

That being said, I enjoyed Red Dragon because of the cast, but outside of that it is extremely pale.

[Terror Australis]

Personally I thought that Red Dragon was WAY better than Manhunter, which is completely overrated. Again, that's my opinion.

[copious]

Personally I thought that Red Dragon was WAY better than Manhunter, which is completely overrated. Again, that's my opinion.

And that you may be right, I personally can't say because I still haven't seen Manhunter, but just by comparing directors I would THINK and HOPE Manhunter would be better. I guess I'll just have to wait till I see it of course, as of now I have no say so.