Your All time Oscar f@#$ ups

[DarthBelichick]

I know this is a few months late,but lets face it the folks over in Oscar town mess up a lot.

I think these are some obvious ones:

Goodfellas losing to Dances with Wolves

Fargo losing to The English Patient

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, Erin Brockovich and Traffic losing to Gladiator

And even though I was not alive Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia imo
Is some of the greatest acting ever put on film. Even though Gregory Peck was great in To Kill a Mockingbird it just does not compare.

Lastly Star Wars VS Annie Hall I don't know how I feel about this really.
I love Star Wars as a series(yes even the prequels).I have watched them all hundreds of times. Annie Hall is one of the best written comedies of all time.
I don't know if Star Wars should have one.

Do you have any snubbed actors or films that you can think of?

[EVILxxx]

Saving Prvate Ryan losing to Shakespeare in Love.

[Donnie_Darko]

Denzel winning for Trainwreck Day. :eek::(:confused:

[Natty]

It was a shame there was no nomination for Jack in The Departed and The Simpsons Movie for Best Animated Film. Also I think De Niro should have 2 extra nominations to add to his 7 so far - Mean Streets and King of Comedy, both superb performances.

I was pissed that Million Dollar Baby won, I think Ray and The Aviator were more deserving and you would have thought that with The Aviator being about a key figure of the American film industry it would have nearly been a lock.

I'm also really tempted to agree with that O'Toole Statement, but Peck was awesome in Mockingbird and I can't bring myself to say he didn't deserve the oscar

[JJFlamingo]

Malcolm McDowell not getting Best Actor for Clockwork...

John Goodman not getting Supporting Actor for Lebowski...

More later...

[Cronos]

Departed winning for film and director... fucking joke.

[isileth]

I am sorry, but in my opinion, Gladiator deserved every oscars it got.
I have seen Erin Broncovich (hope the spelling is right) and I didn't see so much Oscar material.
I don't understand even some nominations, such as the one for Johhny Depp for the first installment of the Pirate of the Caribbeans saga.
Next time they should nominate Duffy Duck.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Crash is one of the most laughably bad movies ever made.

[Cop No. 633]

Two Years in a Row...

Million Dollar Baby beating the Aviator and Eastwood winning best director over Scorsese. Give me a fucking break. That film will be forgotten over time and wouldn't qualify as being in the same league as the Aviator.

Crash winning over Munich, Capote, or Good Night and Good Luck. Any three of those films were much better than the ridiculously over-the-top multi-character ensemble about racism in LA. It was such a laughably bad film. The only people who "learned" anything from it are those who live under a rock. An insultingly bad film that only got praise because nobody wanted to come off as a racist for not liking it. :)

Chicago winning Best Picture was also ridiculous in my book.

Titanic winning over LA Confidential. Now that's rubbish if you ask me. LA Confidential was a great adaptation of a tough book to crack and it did it with style and retained a complex plot along with some great acting from an ensemble cast. Titanic was a so-so movie that had a great boat crashing sequence.

Chariots of Fire beating Raiders of the Lost Ark. Is Hollywood that sophisticated that they would never give an action film best picture if it's running against a boring, droll stupid film that nobody even remembers to this day except for its theme song? I guess so. Nice job, idiots.

Here's one that I'll never forgive: Rocky beating Network, Taxi Drive, and All the President's Men! What the fuck were they smoking? Granted I like Rocky, but it's not even close to being nearly as good as the three other films. I suppose at the time they wanted to give it to a lighter film but that has to be one of the worst decisions ever. It's like when they gave Forrest Gump the award over Shawshank Redemption and Pulp Fiction.

[therealjohng]

Departed winning for film and director... fucking joke.



I just came to say this.

[The Heart Collector]

I know there's rules regarding what gets submitted and what gets nominated and whatnot, but only about half of the best Foreign Film winners are actually movies people care about these days. If you look at the list, it's basically wins for Bergman and Fellini whenever they'd release a movie, Bicycle Thieves, and other than that it's not too hot.

[ZMoney08]

Departed winning for film and director... fucking joke.

Agreed here. The movie was ok but in no way best picture. Same with people loving the Aviator that movie was just ok IMO as well. People will just love whatever Scorsese does.

[Cop No. 633]

That's an empty statement if I ever saw one. The reason Scorsese gets so much love is because of the quality of his work and not his name. I thought the Departed was an entertaining gangster flick, but I wouldn't even say it's near Scorsese's best work. Aviator was a much better film. I'm saying it because I loved the story and found Howard Hughes to be a fascinating historical figure.

[tbone]

Dances, Shakespeare and Crash were far bigger jokes than Departed

[Derek237]

2005 was kind of a joke:

Crash for best picture (I don't think it's a bad movie but definitely the lesser of the 5 nominees)

Reese Witherspoon winning Best Actress for Walk The Line (it was plainly and simply a slow year and I think they just didn't want to give the award to a Desperate Housewife)

It's hard out here for a pimp...caaahman. (even though all the songs that year sucked)


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And Jennifer Hudson, the American Idol reject winning an Oscar. That is a joke. (another case of it being a slow year)

[DarthBelichick]

John Goodman not getting Supporting Actor for Lebowski...

More later...

Here here, It gets more amazing every time I see it.

Please don't snicker but I think he should have gotten one for Monsters INC as well.

[DarthBelichick]

2005 was kind of a joke:

Crash for best picture (I don't think it's a bad movie but definitely the lesser of the 5 nominees)

Reese Witherspoon winning Best Actress for Walk The Line (it was plainly and simply a slow year and I think they just didn't want to give the award to a Desperate Housewife)

It's hard out here for a pimp...caaahman. (even though all the songs that year sucked)


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And Jennifer Hudson, the American Idol reject winning an Oscar. That is a joke. (another case of it being a slow year)

Lets face it they were too chicken shit to give it to Brokeback.

[athf1980]

SPR not winning Best Picture

Goodfellas not winning Best Picture & Best directer

DDL not winning for Gangs of New York

Beatutful Mind winning best picture

Chicago winning Best Picture-I would have been happy if either TTT or the Pianst would have won.

[EvilHenchman]

It's been hinted at several ways already in this thread, but I'll say it outright: Scorsese not having won any or all of his Best Director noms prior to The Departed = Travesty.

Others, off the top of my head:

Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction.

Do the Right Thing not even getting a BP nomination.


Actually, those are only two that come to mind right now. I'm sure there's tons more historic snubs, like Citizen Kane or Stanley Kubrick, but...well, there's another two right there.

[bigred760]

Saving Prvate Ryan losing to Shakespeare in Love.

That's about the only thing I really have an issue with when it comes to the Oscars. I just think SPR lost because it was one of several WWII movies when SiL was unique among the nominees.

[MsPink]

Julia Roberts winning for Erin Brockivich when Ellen Burstyn's performance in Requiem For A Dream required considerable more talent.

[therealjohng]

The Thin Red Line not winning Best Picture.

[Homyrrh]

Supposedly, Ebert still holds the 'Gladiator' nod in '01 as the Academy's biggest, well, "fuck-up".

[RellimHcaz]

FUCKING JOHN CAZALE (i think thats how u spell it) NOT GETTING A "BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR" WIN OR NOMINATION FOR THE GODFATHER PART 2 IS A FUCKING JOKE.

[Le_Big_Mac]

Gone with the Wind over The Wizard of Oz, Stagecoach, Ninotchka, or Wuthering Heights for Best Picture.

Going My Way over Double Indemnity for Best Picture.

All About Eve over Sunset Blvd. for Best Picture.

An American in Paris over A Place in the Sun for Best Picture.

Humphrey Bogart in The African Queen over Marlon Brando in A Streetcar Named Desire for Best Actor.

The Greatest Show on Earth over High Noon for Best Picture.

The French Connection over A Clockwork Orange for Best Picture.

Rocky over Taxi Driver for Best Picture.

Ordinary People over Raging Bull for Best Picture.

Driving Miss Daisy over Field of Dreams for Best Picture.

Titanic over L.A. Confidential or As Good As It Gets for Best Picture.

American Beauty over The Green Mile or The Sixth Sense for Best Picture.

Million Dollar Baby over The Aviator for Best Picture.

Crash over Capote or Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture

[Moviefan1234]

Tommy Lee Jones over Ralph Fiennes in 1993.

[DarthBelichick]

[QUOTE=Le_Big_Mac;2740342]

Titanic over L.A. Confidential or As Good As It Gets for Best Picture.

American Beauty over The Green Mile or The Sixth Sense for Best Picture.



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Titanic is one that comes up often, I think you have to give the movie its due.
It had to win best picture that year. I love La Confidential and As good as it gets and think they are movies I will watch may more times in my life than titanic. Titanic was a phenom, if it had not won it would be thought of as the biggest travesty in Oscar history.

American Beauty makes me mad though. It seems people want to rag on this movie lately. I think this is a classic film. Reminiscent of films like The Apartment. I think the problem is,like Pulp Fiction, since its release there have been a lot of movies made with very similar themes. Which unfortunately may tarnish American Beauty.

American Beauty
Acting A+
Directing A
Screenplay A+

[hasselbrad]

Most of what I'd say has been said already, but I was kind of shocked that Tilda Swinton won best supporting actress for Michael Clayton.
When the competition is a pubescent girl who destroys two lives because she reads the word "cunt", an old black woman, a drugged out mother and a woman playing Bob Dylan... I wouldn't expect the Scottish woman playing an uptight lawyer to resonate.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

I know there's rules regarding what gets submitted and what gets nominated and whatnot, but only about half of the best Foreign Film winners are actually movies people care about these days. If you look at the list, it's basically wins for Bergman and Fellini whenever they'd release a movie, Bicycle Thieves, and other than that it's not too hot.

That's true. It's also interesting how they'll neglect foreign movies in the vast majority of categories and will randomly throw in a Best Director nod somewhere.

I don't think anything from Godard has been recognized. I might need to check again, but I'm pretty sure the Academy has neglected him all the way. They could've at least recognized Contempt for its amazing score. Belle de Jour got no love either and it's one of the sexiest movies ever made.

[cl0n3b4by]

American Beauty is amazing <__<

Persepolis losing to Ratatouille I am still mad >__>

[Gordon]

Being the best will always get you nominated and never let you win. Every year it seems to me that the truly conventional, and fantastic, movie beats the wildly ambitious truly epic movie.

[DarthBelichick]

Being the best will always get you nominated and never let you win. Every year it seems to me that the truly conventional, and fantastic, movie beats the wildly ambitious truly epic movie.

Very true this year!

[JackD.Ripper]

Here's one that I'll never forgive: Rocky beating Network, Taxi Drive, and All the President's Men! What the fuck were they smoking? Granted I like Rocky, but it's not even close to being nearly as good as the three other films. I suppose at the time they wanted to give it to a lighter film but that has to be one of the worst decisions ever.

Ridiculous

Julia Roberts winning for Erin Brockivich when Ellen Burstyn's performance in Requiem For A Dream required considerable more talent.

Burstyn's performance was incredible. So was the direction of Aronofsky and he didn't even get a nomination while Soderberg got two for Traffic (deserved) and Erin Brockavich (come on! really??)

[franky4fingerz]

there will be blood not winning adapted screenplay (ncfom was word for word from the book, blood was completely different)
no country winning picture over blood (great movie, but nothing compares with blood)
crash over munich
thin red line getting screwed
ben "bloodrayne" kingsley over paul newman's verdict
ddl overlooked for gangs
Gangs 10 noms- 0 wins
pearl jam/eddie vedder overlooked for big fish and into the wild
walk hard songs overlooked
the year every oscar went to return of the boring-ass king

[tbone]

American Beauty is amazing <__<

Persepolis losing to Ratatouille I am still mad >__>

I'm with those who love American Beauty -- as for Persepolis and Ratatouille I liked both movies, but did you really expect the Persian girl to beat the French rat?

[unspoken]

-Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction AND Shawshank Redemption
-Lord of the Rings 3 over Mystic River
-Chicago over Gangs Of New York
-Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan AND The Thin Red Line
-The English Patient over Fargo
-Adrien Brody over DDL
-Roman Polanski over Scorsese
-Zemeckis over Tarantino

I'm sure I'll think of more later.

[The Postmaster General]

I'm inclined to agree with franky here in regards to Walk Hard - that movie really should have gotten either some song noms, but really I think John C. Reilly shoulda gotten a nom too, but it's hard because that category was pretty good this year.

[DarthBelichick]

I'm inclined to agree with franky here in regards to Walk Hard - that movie really should have gotten either some song noms, but really I think John C. Reilly shoulda gotten a nom too, but it's hard because that category was pretty good this year.

When you think of the time and effort they took to create a very good song catalog, you have a better appreciation of the movie.

Here is a great audio interview with John c Reilly and Jake Kasdan for anyone interested.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89732838

[john_rambo]

American Beauty really is an amazing movie I saw it this year and loved it... I was not expecting much cause I just didn't think it'd be my thing... as for Forrest Gump, It would have been disappointing no matter what won that year... All three movies are simply awesome... sure Forrest Gump does not fall into the same category as a lot of Oscar movies, but I think that it is probably in my top 5 that I can come in at any time its playing and watch it... it is just a great movie. All three deserved to win in their own way.

[Natty]

Crash winning over Munich, Capote, or Good Night and Good Luck. Any three of those films were much better than the ridiculously over-the-top multi-character ensemble about racism in LA. It was such a laughably bad film. The only people who "learned" anything from it are those who live under a rock. An insultingly bad film that only got praise because nobody wanted to come off as a racist for not liking it. :)

Chicago winning Best Picture was also ridiculous in my book.

Enough with the Crash bashing, that racism statement is bullshit. I suppose Brokeback didn't win because Academy voters were homophobic? Of course not. Sure enough, if it had won I'm sure homophobic people would be saying 'It only won coz the Academy wanted to please the gays' (I've actually heard people say that about the fact that it got a nomination).

Crash's win had nothing to do with the Academy members' racial issues, that and Brokeback were the two films that deserved the award.

Totally agree on the Chicago thing though (the amount of nominations it got was also crazy).

[Natty]

Also, Scorsese not winning for Goodfellas, same for Best Picture.

2002 was a bit of a joke as well, rather than give an oscar to one of the great American directors they just decided to give it to some slimy paedo:mad:

I also think that Cazale should have been nominated for Godfather Part 2.

[spacemonkey]

My biggest Oscar fuck up is:

Julia Roberts winning best actress for Erin Brokovich over Ellen Burstyns masterful performance in Requiem for a Dream.

I cant believe that actually happened.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Enough with the Crash bashing, that racism statement is bullshit. I suppose Brokeback didn't win because Academy voters were homophobic? Of course not. Sure enough, if it had won I'm sure homophobic people would be saying 'It only won coz the Academy wanted to please the gays' (I've actually heard people say that about the fact that it got a nomination).

Crash's win had nothing to do with the Academy members' racial issues, that and Brokeback were the two films that deserved the award.

Totally agree on the Chicago thing though (the amount of nominations it got was also crazy).

Actually, I remember reading this entire story about how a lot of people were boycotting the screenings of Brokeback Mountain because they thought it had an agenda. Tony Curtis, being the hypocrite that he is, refused to watch it despite the fact that he himself used to have sex with men. That's probably not the only reason it lost. Crash had an unfair advantage because it was a great employment opportunity for a lot of L.A. residents. But still, there is homophobia in Hollywood. It's a strange world, I guess.

[Lazy Boy]

2002 was a bit of a joke as well, rather than give an oscar to one of the great American directors they just decided to give it to some slimy paedo:mad:

Well, one of the great American directors made one of his worst films that year, so it went to the right guy, despite Polanski's past indiscretions.

The SPR should've won over Shakespeare in Love debate is endless and tiring, since the truly great film about war that year, The Thin Red Line, was completely shut out. Even Life is Beautiful was better than those two, and I know it gets a lot of flak from people horrified by Benigni's clowning around the Holocaust, but I thought it was, well, beautiful.

Halle Berry winning in a year where the best female performance was not even nominated speaks to that Crash level of the Academy patting themselves on the back for rewarding social issue films that are, for the most part, guilt ridden treacle with grandiose shouting substituting for performances.

I made the comment in another thread, but Close Encounters of the Third Kind not getting a best picture nom still puzzles me, even though I understand they couldn't fit another sci-fi film in the mix and had to nominate the overrated blockbuster instead.

[BakeTheMooCow]

There are loads, but I always shake my head when I think of this guy winning over Ed Norton.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/300000/images/_300742_benigni_300.jpg

[Lazy Boy]

There are loads, but I always shake my head when I think of this guy winning over Ed Norton.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/300000/images/_300742_benigni_300.jpg

Chalk it up to Academy falling in love with his spotlight schmoozing persona rather than his performance, a comic role he plays the same variation on in his other movies. Flash forward to the telecast one year later and it becomes apparent nobody is laughing with him anymore. Or at him. Or anything. It's more like an embarassed "let's move on".

I remember reading a story that immediately after Benigni won that McKellen, Nolte and Norton all had a good laugh in the green room over some booze.

[spacemonkey]

Arent you guys forgetting what a great film Life is Beautiful was? It really was something special and moving...at least thats my take on it. I mean, I dont think it was that unfair for Benigni to win that award. He might have an explosive obnoxious persona when in public (walking on top of the sits in the theater was a little too much I agree) but you cant deny he made a great film, and his performance was great.

[Lazy Boy]

Arent you guys forgetting what a great film Life is Beautiful was?

Something I mentioned several posts above, I love the film...it's just the performance, when compared to the four other nominees, is the weakest.

[jaw2929]

Yea, I don't fucking understand all the hate for Crash and Departed. Fucking bizarre.

[spacemonkey]

Ok, I see.

[spacemonkey]

Yea, I don't fucking understand all the hate for Crash and Departed. Fucking bizarre.

The Departed gets hate cause its certainly NOT Scorceses best picture, yet he won an oscar for it. When compared to the rest of his films, its just not that good.

[Cop No. 633]

Enough with the Crash bashing, that racism statement is bullshit. I suppose Brokeback didn't win because Academy voters were homophobic? Of course not. Sure enough, if it had won I'm sure homophobic people would be saying 'It only won coz the Academy wanted to please the gays' (I've actually heard people say that about the fact that it got a nomination).

Crash's win had nothing to do with the Academy members' racial issues, that and Brokeback were the two films that deserved the award.

Totally agree on the Chicago thing though (the amount of nominations it got was also crazy).

I personally think either film wasn't great but I'd give the advantage to Brokeback over Crash any day of the week. Crash was simply a terrible melodrama that wanted to have something profound to say but had some of the worst scenes I've ever seen depicting modern day racism. One thing it got completely wrong is that in most cases, racism lies beneath the surface in today's society, especially in LA where I live and the movie was like fantasy version of it. I kept laughing throughout the movie because how absurd it got.

As for the Academy, I do believe they gave it to the film simply because of the subject matter and not because it's a great film by any means. They have done this in the past simply to avoid controversy... Shakespeare in Love wins because it's the only feel-good film on the ballot. Dances with Wolves wins because it's about Native American culture. Rocky winning over 3 better films that had political messages or dark themes. Look at their mor recent choices... A Beautiful Mind, Gladiator, Chicago, Million Dollar Baby, Crash, The Departed.... they're really bad choices in terms of greatness. Either they have shitty taste or I believe they're choosing these films because of their message or what they represent rather than the content.

I just have no faith in the Academy. They've had more fuck ups than they've had good choices, which is why I haven't seen them since 2000. I don't think they are sincere at all when they pick their wins.

[james-88]

2002 actor in a leading role, adrian brody won, definitely deserving of it but nick cage in adaptation was a far superior performance, jack nicholson in about schmit and DDL in gangs of new york were both better perfomances too. Nick should have that oscar though.
2001 actor in supporting role, jim broadbent for iris won. never saw it so dont know for sure, but ian mckellen shoulda won it for gandalf.
2000 best actress, julia roberts won for erin brockovich, ellen burstyn should have totaly won for requiem for a dream
1999 best supporting actor, michael caine in cider house rules, my second worst oscar mistake in the last 15 years. shoulda have absolutely went to tom cruise in magnolia, one of the finest performances in history.
1998 best director went to steven spielberg for saving private ryan. i think top five worst oscar mistakes in past 15 years. absolutely shoulda went to terrence mallick for thin red line. roberto begnini for life is beautiful and peter weir for truman show were both more deserving
1998 best picture went to skakespeare in love. my worst oscar mistake in the last 15 years. life is beautiful is far more deserving but no doubt about it, it should have went to thin red line.
1999 original screenplay went to sixth sense which is deserving, but american beauty should have no doubt won, magnolia shoulda been second, then sixth sense then being john malchovich
1998 original screenplay went to shakespear in love, shoulda went to either life is beautiful or truman show
1998 adapted screenplay went to gods and monsters, shoulda went to terrence mallikc for thin red line

now oscars snubs to jim carrey. 2004 not nominated for best actor for eternal sunshine of the spotless mind . heres who were, johny depp for finding neverland.. leo for aviator... jamie foxx won for ray...don cheadel for hotel rwanda.. and clint eastwood for million dollar baby. not saying he shoulda won but at least got nominated.
1999 in man on the moon. kevin spacey won for american beauty and he so should have, jim didnt even get nominated but should came in second. denzel nominated for hurricane..sean peen for sweet and lowdown..richard farnsworth for straight story..russel crowe for insider.. and of course spacey
1998 jim for truman show..roberto begnini won and probably should have jim again shoulda been second in voting though. the other noms are edward norton in american history x..ian mckellen in gods and monsters..nick nolte in affliction.. and tom hanks in saving private ryan

so those are my big ones that make me hate the oscars basically the only things they got completly right are the american beauty oscars, braveheart oscars, and return of the king oscars

[speedbeaver]

Shakespeare In Love over The Thin Red Line (Fuck SPR...)

Dances over Goodfellas

Forrest Gump over Shawshank/Pulp Fiction

English Patient over Fargo

Crash over Munich (IMO the only one of the nominations better than Crash, BBM was close though)

Braveheart winning BP over anything

Gladiator over Traffic

Chicago over The Pianist

Roberto Begnini over Edward Norton in 98

Phillip Seymour Hoffman over Heath Ledger in BBM (great performance by PSH, but Heath in Brokeback is one of my top 3 favorite performances ever)

Tommy Lee Jones over Ralph Fiennes in 93

there are so many...

[hrdude]

Alfred Hitchcock for never winning a Best Director Oscar. Rebecca won best picture but that award went to David O. Selznick who was the producer.

[dennisv]

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[Terror Australis]

1. Shakespeare in Love beating Saving Private Ryan to the win the 1998 Best Picture Oscar.

2. The Simpsons Movie being snubbed of an nomaintion for Best Animated Feature.

3. The Golden Compass winning the Best Visual Effects Oscar over Transformers (which I admit still makes my blood boil).

Those are the only ones really. The rest I don't have a problem with.

[Rick-James]

Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Pulp Fiction, Saving Private Ryan, Munich, Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, The Fellowship of the Ring, L.A. Confidential, Fargo, E.T.The Extra-Terrestrial, Apocalypse Now, Network, Taxi Driver, Jaws, Dog Day Afternoon, Chinatown, A Clockwork Orange, The Graduate, Dr. Strangelove and To Kill a Mockingbird all losing Best Picture.