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Moviefan1234
05-26-2008, 12:16 AM
Source - http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/05/25/mars.lander/index.html

(CNN) -- The first-ever landing of a probe near Mars' north pole took place successfully on Sunday, NASA confirmed.

The Mars Phoenix Lander, completing a 296-day journey, closed in on the Red Planet with a 50-50 chance of a successful touchdown on its arctic plains, NASA officials said.

The landing -- dubbed the "seven minutes of terror" -- was a nerve-wracking experience for mission managers, who have witnessed the failure of similar missions.

In mission control at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, they celebrated the lander's much-anticipated entry.

"It was better than we could have imagined," Barry Goldstein, project manager for the Phoenix mission, told CNN. VideoWatch the celebration at mission control »

The Phoenix's 90-day mission is to analyze the soils and permafrost of Mars' arctic tundra for signs of past or present life.

The lander is equipped with a robotic arm capable of scooping up ice and dirt to look for organic evidence that life once existed there, or even exists now.

"We are not going to be able to answer the final question of is there life on Mars," said principal investigator Peter Smith, an optical scientist with the University of Arizona. "We will take the next important step. We'll find out if there's organic material associated with this ice in the polar regions. Ice is a preserver, and if there ever were organics on Mars and they got into that ice, they will still be there today."

The twin to the Mars Polar Lander spacecraft, Phoenix was supposed to travel to Mars in 2001 as the Mars Surveyor spacecraft. They were originally part of the "better, faster, cheaper" program, formulated by then-NASA Administrator Dan Goldin to beef up planetary exploration on a lean budget.

But Polar malfunctioned during its descent into Mars' atmosphere in 1999 and crashed. An investigation concluded that as many as a dozen design flaws or malfunctions doomed the spacecraft.

The failure of that mission, as well as another spacecraft called the Mars Climate Orbiter the same year, led to NASA to put future missions on hold and rethink the "better, faster, cheaper" approach. Mars Surveyor went to the warehouse. VideoWatch the challenges the mission faced »

But all was not lost. In 2003, Smith proposed a plan to re-engineer the Mars Surveyor and fly it on a mission to look for signatures of life in the ice and dirt of Mars far North. Mars Phoenix, literally and figuratively, rose from the ashes of Surveyor.

Engineers set to work, testing and retesting the onboard system to ferret out and fix all the flaws they could find. iReport.com: Send your photos, video of space

"We always have to be scared to death," Goldstein said. "The minute we lose fear is the minute that we stop looking for the next problem."

The team was concerned about the Phoenix landing system. NASA had not successfully landed a probe on Mars using landing legs and stabilizing thrusters since the Viking missions in the late 1970s. The other three successful Mars landings -- Pathfinder in 1997 and the Spirit and Opportunity rovers in 2004 -- used massive airbags that inflated around the landing craft just before landing to cushion the impact. Learn about NASA's past missions to Mars »

The Phoenix doesn't have airbags because the lander is too big and heavy for them to work properly.

Its landing site was targeted for the far northern plains of Mars, near the northern polar ice cap. Data from the Mars Odyssey spacecraft indicate large quantities of ice there, likely in the form of permafrost, either on the surface or just barely underground.

"Follow the water" has become the unifying theme of NASA's Mars exploration strategy.

In 2004, the rover Opportunity found evidence that a salty sea once lapped the shores of an area near Mars' equator called Meridiani Planum. Astrobiologists generally agree that it's best to look for life in wet places.

CNN's Kate Tobin contributed to this report.


Glad to see they are off to a good start. Now to bring the politics out of this, how does everyone else feel about spending hundreds of millions on things such as this. I only ask because on my local news tonight, they had locals bitching about how the country shouldn't be spending money on this with the economy in its current shape. I, personally, couldn't disagree more. With global warming and the way we are burning through out natural resources, I think it's a very good thing for us to be exploring space. Just to learn about what's out there.

Vong
05-26-2008, 01:16 AM
You can't put a price on knowledge, and the knowledge that NASA and other space agencies is giving us benefits the world in our understanding of the universe around us.

shoe1985
05-26-2008, 09:58 AM
In the coming years, population will become a huge concern for us. Land is becoming less and less. Where will our grandkids live? We need to invest more in exploring other planets.

As for these people complaining about the economy, they need to shut up. This is something that will be needed in the future. If you cut funding you are hurting the future. What should we spend our money on? Providing more money to give to people that are in debt from maxing out credit cars, living outside of their means?

Moviefan1234 and Vong, you both gave excellent responses, and I couldn't agree more.

Homyrrh
05-26-2008, 03:16 PM
I must, as the very least agree with the above posts.

Hundreds of millions, eh? I'm puzzled as to why our space budget doesn't rival our defense budget. Despite the listed shortcomings with previous Mars probes (which actually was mostly the fault of Lockheed Martin, the company contracted to construct the vehicles), no price or effort can be enough to further our knowledge and grasp of the universe, that grandest and most mysterious of realms.

Because of this Great Unknown, we do not know the possibilities (or, IMHO, how infinite these possibilities are...) that exist in the space beyond. Cures for disease, solutions to overpopulation, fossil fuels, civilizations...

Also, I was watching CNN (...) for a brief moment (...) this afternoon, and their "space correspondent" (...) mentioned that a certain ridged pattern along the surface of the planet's Pole somehow substantiated the growing hypothesis that there actuall is water on Mars.

shoe1985
05-26-2008, 05:40 PM
Because of this Great Unknown, we do not know the possibilities (or, IMHO, how infinite these possibilities are...) that exist in the space beyond. Cures for disease, solutions to overpopulation, fossil fuels, civilizations...

Also, I was watching CNN (...) for a brief moment (...) this afternoon, and their "space correspondent" (...) mentioned that a certain ridged pattern along the surface of the planet's Pole somehow substantiated the growing hypothesis that there actuall is water on Mars.

The first part that I quoted from your post is correct. There could be so many things on this planet that could help ours without it just moving people there. We don't know, which is why we should find out.

As for your second part, it has always been believed that there has been water on Mars.

There are so many things that could come from this. We don't know until we go there and find out. This planet can't survive forever, and we need to think about the future.

Homyrrh
05-27-2008, 09:43 AM
As for your second part, it has always been believed that there has been water on Mars.
Yes, of course. But my understanding is that scientists, especially concerned astrobiologists, still look to completely validate the notion (a substantiated law as opposed to a justifiable theory).

Also:

(from USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2008-05-26-phoenix-prep_N.htm))

NASA begins preparing Phoenix to dig on Mars

By Susan Kelly and Robert Davis, USA TODAY

After pulling off a long-shot landing on Mars on Sunday night, the team behind the Phoenix mission will spend the next few days making sure its equipment is ready to begin searching for the raw ingredients necessary to support life on the planet.
The landing of NASA's Phoenix spacecraft marked the first time in 32 years that the space agency has delivered a probe on the Red Planet using retrorockets. The rover vehicles Spirit and Opportunity landed with the help of air bags.


SUCCESS!: NASA rejoices in safe landing
DAY ONE: Mars lander completes first day on Red Planet
The Phoenix lander then began transmitting images of the barren surface of Mars' northern latitudes.

"We've achieved our first major goal," principal investigator Peter Smith of the University of Arizona-Tucson said in a news conference Monday.

Cheers erupted at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, Calif., when Phoenix's radio signal came in as scheduled Sunday, indicating that the $457 million lander was in position near Mars' northern polar cap. The craft will sample the terrain for evidence of microscopic life and water.

Smith said Monday that it will be about a week before Phoenix's robotic arm takes its first scoop of the pebbly surface, which appears to contain ice that expands and contracts. That process is believed to be responsible for the polygon shapes in the surface.

About two hours after touchdown, mission controllers got word that the craft's solar arrays had deployed. The twin 6-foot circular disks are the power source.

Then the team saw that the cover that protected the robotic arm did not retract completely, but engineers don't believe it will inhibit the arm's ability to reach the surface and start digging.

New images from Phoenix, expected nightly, will be posted at www.nasa.gov/phoenix. "What we're looking at is a surface of Mars that we've never seen before," said Dan McCleese, JPL's chief scientist.

This happy ending to Phoenix's 422-million-mile, nine-month journey was far from a safe bet. Of the 11 missions that have tried to land probes on Mars since 1971 — by the USA, Russia and Great Britain — only five had succeeded. Now the number is six of 12.

"We are now very confident we will be able to fulfill all of our goals," says Barry Goldstein, project manager at JPL. Though Phoenix is expected to work only for about three months, Goldstein says, the team will try to continue to get information for as long as Phoenix can withstand plunging temperatures: "We're going to operate until Mars freezes over."