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Bourne101
06-04-2008, 06:07 PM
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Directed by Louis Leterrier
Written by Edward Norton and Zak Penn
Genre: Action/Adventure
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Plot Outline: Scientist Bruce Banner desperately hunts for a cure to the gamma radiation that poisoned his cells and unleashes the unbridled force of rage within him: The Hulk. Living in the shadows--cut off from a life he knew and the woman he loves, Betty Ross--Banner struggles to avoid the obsessive pursuit of his nemesis, General Thunderbolt Ross, and the military machinery that seeks to capture him and brutally exploit his power. As all three grapple with the secrets that led to The Hulk's creation, they are confronted with a monstrous new adversary known as The Abomination, whose destructive strength exceeds even The Hulk's own. To stop it, one scientist must make an agonizing final choice: accept a peaceful life as Bruce Banner or find heroism in the creature he holds inside--The Incredible Hulk.
Starring: Edward Norton, Liv Tyler, Tim Roth, and William Hurt
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PG-13 for sequences of intense action violence, some frightening sci-fi images and brief suggestive content.
Runtime: 120 minutes
Looks great. Can't wait to see it!
MadsenOMC
06-04-2008, 06:11 PM
Because of Norton and Roth I want to see it. I don't really know what to expect. I like some of what I've seen and don't like about an equal amount. But I'll see almost anything with Norton and Roth and this is no exception.
Lazy Boy
06-04-2008, 06:17 PM
This doesn't look that great to me, but hopefully it will be a nice reboot from the Ang Lee version.
Moviefan1234
06-04-2008, 06:56 PM
I have my concerns about the project, but I remain optimistic that it'll be a good film.
DaMovieMan
06-05-2008, 01:13 AM
At first i really didn't care for seeing it that much even with Norton and Roth attached (many great actors have made terrible mistakes in the past) but after the impressive marketing, the teasers, clips and trailers i've seen the hype has definitely built up and right now i can't wait to see it in cinemas. The initial reviews are positive and it just looks like a crazy good time in the cinemas.
Plus it has Norton and Roth!! :D
ilovemovies
06-05-2008, 01:39 AM
Won't hold a candle stick to Ang Lee's great, underrated flick but it should still be pretty solid.
Norton is a solid replacement for Bana and Hurt is a solid replacement for Elliot. Too bad I can't say the same thing for Tyler who isn't nearly as great as Connelly. But the trailers have pretty decent looking.
Strider
06-05-2008, 06:57 AM
There's a couple of things that worry me about this re-boot -- still, The Incredible Hulk looks pretty decent, and I love the cast, especially Edward Norton, who I think is a terrific replacement for Eric Bana.
Hopefully, the final product will be much better than Ang Lee's incredibly disappointing and forgettable mess.
Strider
Shinigami
06-05-2008, 07:26 AM
I'm really looking forward to this movie. The only thing that can sway me would be tons of negative reactions beforehand. Otherwise, I'm definitely going to see it during the weekend, and hopefully it will be as fun as Iron Man.
Saruman
06-05-2008, 08:30 AM
Looks awesome. I might just have to go to the drive-in to see it.
corran horn
06-05-2008, 11:10 AM
What everyone else has said. I'm somewhat ambivalent towards this, but I have faith in Norton, Roth, and Hurt to pull it off. As for Liv Tyler, I liked her as Arwen, but I do think Connelly is a better actress overall.
TeeRay
06-06-2008, 01:36 AM
Finally, the Hulk film they should've made the first time.
Can't wait.
the saw is family
06-06-2008, 08:39 AM
looks pretty good. if it's even half as entertaining as iron man was it should be a good time at the cinema.
JoeChar4321
06-06-2008, 04:03 PM
I'm supremely confident we'll get the proper mixture of "Hulk Smash" and a true psychodrama that explores the depth of the human psyche. Great comic book type action looks to be a given at this point but I also trust that Ed Norton re-working/writing the script will add depth as well.
All the newer clips and TV spots look amazing...
http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=551&item=16
bigred760
06-07-2008, 12:28 AM
My anticipation is growing for this one. Am looking forward to it.
PreySlayDisplay
06-07-2008, 01:22 AM
Definitely will be checking this one out next weekend.
MisterTwister
06-07-2008, 01:32 AM
Won't hold a candle stick to Ang Lee's great, underrated flick but it should still be pretty solid.
Norton is a solid replacement for Bana and Hurt is a solid replacement for Elliot. Too bad I can't say the same thing for Tyler who isn't nearly as great as Connelly. But the trailers have pretty decent looking.
What you talkin' about Willis?
This will completely BLOW AWAY Ang Lee's mess of a film.
Norton is a much better choice than Eric "Lifeless and dull as fuck" Bana.
ilovemovies
06-07-2008, 01:45 AM
Couldn't disagree more. Despite the last 15 minutes being terrible, I thought Ang Lee's movie was fantastic. Very dark and compelling but also with a lot of great action sequences and had a great style to it too with the best use of split screens I've ever seen other than maybe 24.
And Eric Bana was terrific in the movie.
I also don't think Norton is as great as people say he is. Now don't get me wrong, I like him a lot and think he's a very solid actor, but he's only had a few really great performances IMO. The rest of his career he's been solid but overpraised at times.
I don't think Norton is a better actor than Bana. I think they are about on the same level.
I just read an article from USA Today that said that there were some disagreements between Norton and Marvel and while Marvel won that debate, Norton won't be doing any press for the movie. That didn't sound good to me.
Quite frankly, it sounds like they are trying to make a dumbed down version of the Hulk. I'm not saying I don't want to see it. I think it looks like a solid popcorn flick but nothing more. And I have no doubt whatsoever that it won't even begin to touch on Ang Lee's awesomeness.
Just look at who the director is for crying out loud. The guy who did the Transporter movies for crying out loud. So yeah, this won't be nearly the great movie that was Ang Lee's flick, which IMO is one of the greatest superhero/comic book adaptations of all time. Up there with Batman Begins.
echo_bravo
06-07-2008, 10:59 AM
^^^
I read that USA Today article as well. Doesnt it worry anyone else that Norton is basically getting himself as far away as possible from this film?
I mean, he is the main star in this movie and it seems like he is already ashamed of it.
I will probably see it opening weekend cause I know my friends are gonna drag me to it.
Lazy Boy
06-07-2008, 12:21 PM
Just Norton's bruised ego getting in the way...shouldn't affect the film's advertising and box office potential if he's not promoting it, I don't think mainstream audiences would care otherwise. This will do gangbusters.
dellamorte dellamore
06-07-2008, 12:43 PM
I think Ang Lee was trying out too many directorial experiments with the first one . Split screen that looks like comic book panels , Hulk Jumping miles at a time , then what really killed the film for me , giant Killer Poodles !
I couldn't take anything seriously after that . Nick Nolte's overacting didn't help either , he was absolutely terrible in the first film , Roth is a genuine upgrade who won't try to upstage the proceedings .
The first was a a genuine mess , it's like it wasn't even finished and it was rushed to market . Lee is great when he is in his art house element but he failed miserably with his foray into comic book movie territory .
This next one looks like a great time , they no doubt seem to have got it right this time around . The visuals look terrific , the action exciting , the story intriguing , and the acting is a definitive upgrade .
And i'm glad there won't be any killer poodles in it , oh man , that is gut busting .
psycheoutsteve
06-07-2008, 01:05 PM
What you talkin' about Willis?
This will completely BLOW AWAY Ang Lee's mess of a film.
Norton is a much better choice than Eric "Lifeless and dull as fuck" Bana.
Have you seen Bana in Munich? I didn't think he was lifeless there...
There will be differences in the way Bana and Norton will portray the character of course, but I still think both portrayals will hold up just fine. Bana played the character as being more shy, detached, and repressed, while Norton seems to be going for the repressed, lonely, but also slightly cynical type of character.
I've been growing more convinced that the Incredible Hulk will turn out pretty good having seen the recent clips that were released.
AndrewDB
06-07-2008, 01:08 PM
I think Ang Lee was trying out too many directorial experiments with the first one . Split screen that looks like comic book panels , Hulk Jumping miles at a time , then what really killed the film for me , giant Killer Poodles !
I kinda thought the comic book panel idea could of been great if it was done properly..
But you're right, the poodles really really made me :rolleyes: :confused:.
JoeChar4321
06-07-2008, 05:23 PM
^^^
I read that USA Today article as well. Doesnt it worry anyone else that Norton is basically getting himself as far away as possible from this film?
Norton is doing no such thing. That's just poor journalism on display, nothing new for USA Today.
USA Today needs to learn how to do research. It's egocentric or just plain dumb to think they were denied an interview because of the alleged feud. Norton simply doesn't do interviews for his films. It's very rare to see Ed pimping anything like Downey did with Iron Man.
Regardless, if he really didn't want to do promotion for the film in general he wouldn't have told fans to stop worrying about what goes on behind the scenes like this "feud" in an interview with Total Film. He's appearing on Moviefone to answer fans questions about the film and we all saw him work the MTV movie awards with Liv Tyler. He gives a long and passionate take about the movie and the Hulk on the newly released Hulk TV show DVD. The bonus featurettes on season 3 and 4 feature Norton and the movie. I just watched it last night, good stuff.
MisterTwister
06-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Couldn't disagree more. Despite the last 15 minutes being terrible, I thought Ang Lee's movie was fantastic. Very dark and compelling but also with a lot of great action sequences and had a great style to it too with the best use of split screens I've ever seen other than maybe 24.
And Eric Bana was terrific in the movie.
I also don't think Norton is as great as people say he is. Now don't get me wrong, I like him a lot and think he's a very solid actor, but he's only had a few really great performances IMO. The rest of his career he's been solid but overpraised at times.
I don't think Norton is a better actor than Bana. I think they are about on the same level.
I just read an article from USA Today that said that there were some disagreements between Norton and Marvel and while Marvel won that debate, Norton won't be doing any press for the movie. That didn't sound good to me.
Quite frankly, it sounds like they are trying to make a dumbed down version of the Hulk. I'm not saying I don't want to see it. I think it looks like a solid popcorn flick but nothing more. And I have no doubt whatsoever that it won't even begin to touch on Ang Lee's awesomeness.
Just look at who the director is for crying out loud. The guy who did the Transporter movies for crying out loud. So yeah, this won't be nearly the great movie that was Ang Lee's flick, which IMO is one of the greatest superhero/comic book adaptations of all time. Up there with Batman Begins.
Oh because he directed The Transporter he's not the right guy for a Hulk movie? Have you seen the Jet Li flick Unleashed? EXCELLENT flick with great action, characters, emotion and humor. He's perfect for a Hulk film, much more than Ang Lee was. Ang Lee took one of my favorite Marvel characters and made it into a mess of a flick with a TERRIBLE lead actor, who was a dull a piece of cardboard.
The reviews over at AICN are extremely postive. I don't usually read reviews but these are the same guy who loved Iron Man and look how that film turned out. Hell they say it's on par with Iron Man. Who cares if Ed Norton isn't promoting the film? He's a great actor and all but sounds like a total bag in real life. Film is better off without him promoting it. Film actualy promotes itself. It's the Hulk for godsakes!
The spilt screens started off cool, but Lee became greedy and overused them to a point where they became dreadfully annoying.
The action scenes were kinda cool, I enjoyed them.
This new Hulk looks like the film we should've got a few years. Instead Lee gave us a turd with a few OK action sequences.
Please do not compare Lee's crap to Batman Begins. That's a slap to the face of the great Chris Nolan.
FilmKing2000
06-07-2008, 09:07 PM
While I'm not expecting anything close to something like Batman Begins, I'm still pretty optimistic about The Incredible Hulk. From the looks of it so far, it looks like the exact type of mindless summer popcorn that I've been meaning to enjoy lately. Plus, Edward Norton is the man (also very curious to see how all of the work he's done with the script will turn out).
DaMovieMan
06-08-2008, 12:14 AM
lol Ilovemovies, Norton and Bana are on the same level? Come on dude, tell me one film where Bana was on the same level as Norton in American History X or Primal Fear.
Sorry, i couldn't let that go :confused:
Oh, Incredible Hulk is gonna rock and make people forget the soap-opera that was Lee's version. The only thing his version will be better in, as many have pointed out, is the lead girl. Connelly is waaay better than Tyler.
ilovemovies
06-08-2008, 02:53 AM
Unleashed was pretty good but he's still not even half the director Lee is.
Bana has been excellent in Munich, Troy, Black Hawk Down and Hulk.
Yes, I would rank Norton's performances in American History X and 25th Hour and Primal Fear a head of Bana's work but I'm talking about their body of work as a whole. And judging on that Bana and Norton are about equal. Norton might be a touch better because of those aforementioned movies but as a whole they are not that far a part.
I seriously don't understand how anyone can call Lee's Hulk soap opera. It didn't feel that way to me at all.
And comparing it to Batman Begins isn't a slap to the face at Nolan at all. Both Lee and Nolan are excellent filmmakers and both movies are superb and top tier in the superhero/comic book genre.
AICN means crap to me. Never read their reviews and I don't care. And I'm not saying I think this movie will be bad. I think it will be an enjoyable popcorn flick. But I don't think it will be anything more and I definitely don't think it will come close to Lee's great, underrated film.
Again, I get it. A lot of people were disappointed with Lee's movie. I've always known I'm in the minority and have never claimed not to be. Otherwise, this would be a direct sequel rather than a redo. But I stand by my opinion that it was a great flick and one of the greatest comic book movies ever. And I also stand by my thinking that this will probably be a solid and entertaining movie but nowhere near as great. I will find out in less than a week if my suspicions are correct.
echo_bravo
06-08-2008, 03:54 PM
lol Ilovemovies, Norton and Bana are on the same level? Come on dude, tell me one film where Bana was on the same level as Norton in American History X or Primal Fear.
Sorry, i couldn't let that go :confused:
Oh, Incredible Hulk is gonna rock and make people forget the soap-opera that was Lee's version. The only thing his version will be better in, as many have pointed out, is the lead girl. Connelly is waaay better than Tyler.
Norton is definitely the better actor of the two. BUT Bana gave an Oscar worthy performance in Chopper. Its kind of a rare Austrailian film but its damn good. Bana is basically unrecognizable in it.
JoeChar, thanks for the heads up. Yeah, I must admit I havent been following the coverage of the Hulk that much. From some of the things I read it basically seemed that Norton was shying away from the film because of its outcome but looks like I was wrong.
I will probably see this on opening day cause my friends are all going to it. "If you cant beat em...join em!";)
optimus1
06-08-2008, 04:37 PM
What you talkin' about Willis?
This will completely BLOW AWAY Ang Lee's mess of a film.
Norton is a much better choice than Eric "Lifeless and dull as fuck" Bana.
Bana's a real good actor , he was the least of that movies problems.
optimus1
06-08-2008, 04:40 PM
lol Ilovemovies, Norton and Bana are on the same level? Come on dude, tell me one film where Bana was on the same level as Norton in American History X or Primal Fear.
Sorry, i couldn't let that go :confused:
Oh, Incredible Hulk is gonna rock and make people forget the soap-opera that was Lee's version. The only thing his version will be better in, as many have pointed out, is the lead girl. Connelly is waaay better than Tyler.
Munich , Troy are 2 real good showings by Bana. Not that I think he is better then Norton as Norton is a terrific actor but he's damn good.
Moviefan1234
06-08-2008, 04:43 PM
with a TERRIBLE lead actor, who was a dull a piece of cardboard.
That right there ruins your argument. Watch CHOPPER, BLACK HAWK DOWN, TROY, MUNICH, and ROMULUS, MY FATHER. Get back to me.
Bourne101
06-08-2008, 04:54 PM
Munich pwns.
MisterTwister
06-08-2008, 05:04 PM
That right there ruins your argument. Watch CHOPPER, BLACK HAWK DOWN, TROY, MUNICH, and ROMULUS, MY FATHER. Get back to me.
I've seen all of those and the only performance he gave that was any good was Munich and to some degree BHD. The rest sucked.
I'm being too hard on Bana, he's not that bad. But I still think his performance in Hulk was lifeless and dull. Terrible.
xseanymacx
06-08-2008, 06:08 PM
Bana has been excellent in Munich, Troy, Black Hawk Down and Hulk.
Yes, I would rank Norton's performances in American History X and 25th Hour and Primal Fear a head of Bana's work but I'm talking about their body of work as a whole. And judging on that Bana and Norton are about equal. Norton might be a touch better because of those aforementioned movies but as a whole they are not that far a part.
Umm Fight Club, Rounders, Down in the Valley, Red Dragon, Death to Smoochy.
I like Bana but he doesn't come close.
Bourne101
06-08-2008, 06:57 PM
Death to Smoochy.
Wow, I had forgotten about this movie. Soooooo underrated, it's not even funny.
ilovemovies
06-08-2008, 07:51 PM
Death to Smoochy was okay, and Norton was just okay in it IMO.
I haven't seen Down in the Valley.
He was good in Red Dragon and Rounders but I wouldn't call those great performances. Plus, I actually like Bana's card game movie more, Lucky You.
MadsenOMC
06-09-2008, 09:36 AM
Norton is monstrously miscast in the should-have-never-been-made Red Dragon. He's given other weak performances as well. The Italian Job comes to mind. I love Norton but I think Bana is close to being as good of an actor. Chopper is an awesome movie and it's easy to see why it made Bana a star. He is amazing in it. He hasn't given as many memorable performances as Norton has, but I think in terms of acting ability he's almost an equal.
JoeChar4321
06-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Another great review from a trusted source that went to the premiere...
The tension never lets up from the opening credits until the end credits. The story is set up nicely by retelling the origin we all know in the credits sequence. There's tons of nods to the TV show and plenty from the comics as well. All the characters are given enough time to develop and the action is extremely intense and top notch. The two complaints I've heard early on were the CGI was not as good as the 2003 version and they're showing all the best stuff in the trailers and TV spots. If you thought that you couldn't be more wrong. In fact all of the best CGI shots are NOT in the trailers or TV spots at all. There is some stunning f/x and while there are shots where it's obvious CGI...the same can be said about pretty much every CGI character. This was quite a challenge to put this CGI character with so much interaction in a live action World...and they pulled it off. Once you see the Hulk and your mind digests the character...you forget about it and become fully involved in this story. The f/x to me are vastly superior than the Hulk in the 2003 film. It's really amazing in some scenes. At times they also cleverly use the shadows and environment (mainly early on) to really build up the suspense.
The acting is top notch all the way around. Ed Norton is Bruce Banner and after you see him you will forget about wanting anyone else for the role. William Hurt is awesome as usual, Tim Blake Nelson did a very colorful and entertaining job in his role and will definitely be stealing the show as The Leader in the next film. I really saw a lot of promise in what the future brings that character. Liv Tyler was great as Betty as well. There was some great Easter eggs weaved into this film so pay attention. Many of which will go over the average viewers had but comic fans will dig it.
Lastly the final sequence is unbelievable and nobody will ever be able to say it's anti-climatic. It's long, intense, and unrelenting. It's the superhero/villain battle like no other.
Hulk fans have nothing to worry about and just like with Iron Man when the end credits start rolling you'll be pissed off because you're not gonna want it to end. No the movie is not flawless but what Marvel, Norton, and Leterrier have achieved is just amazing.
It was a SMASHING good time!
MadsenOMC
06-09-2008, 11:59 AM
It sounds like this has turned out better than expected. I can't wait to see it.
NuclearMisfit
06-09-2008, 12:33 PM
I just watched the interview Letterier did on Attack of the Show and just watching the interview hyped me up so much.
DareDevil
06-09-2008, 02:04 PM
Can't F*CKING WAIT! I booked friday off work over a month ago just for this... I expect this to be 1 of (if not) the best movie this summer
MightyCelestial
06-10-2008, 06:32 AM
Man, I keep hearing more & more good things about this film.
I am really looking forward to it.
mreeez
06-10-2008, 09:26 AM
Two things...
First off DareDevil's avatar rocks, shout out for some Alpha Flight love (even though its Pointer).
Second, I was, like many lukewarm on this after the last Hulk flick but everything I am seeing now, trailers, early reviews and interviews, have got me stoked to see this (especially after seeing the spoiler trailer).
Can't wait.
JoeChar4321
06-10-2008, 11:02 PM
Bigtime interviews with Ed, Liv and the director answering questions on Moviefone's Unscripted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw7XGyZEsk0
daddiefatsacks
06-11-2008, 12:32 AM
i just saw a trailer on TV and they showed...tony stark in it? wtf
LordSimen
06-11-2008, 01:09 AM
^^^
I read that USA Today article as well. Doesnt it worry anyone else that Norton is basically getting himself as far away as possible from this film?
I mean, he is the main star in this movie and it seems like he is already ashamed of it.
I will probably see it opening weekend cause I know my friends are gonna drag me to it.
Ashamed that he didn't have complete control over the movie like he would have wanted to, if anything. Honestly, if a debate came down to whether or not I trust Marvel's vision with The Incredible Hulk and Norton's, this would be the first time in history I'd side with the studio.
ilovemovies
06-11-2008, 01:57 AM
James Berardinelli gave it 3 stars. He also gave Lee's movie 3 1/2 stars. Which is what I suspect it would be for me.
anakinsrise
06-11-2008, 03:40 AM
i just saw a trailer on TV and they showed...tony stark in it? wtf
Iron Man did so we well at the B.O and critics they're hoping fans of it will see Hulk. It is odd that they are revealing a big secret scene the general population didnt know about.
anakinsrise
06-11-2008, 03:41 AM
James Berardinelli gave it 3 stars. He also gave Lee's movie 3 1/2 stars. Which is what I suspect it would be for me.
Berardinelli is one of the 6 critics i truly trust. Going to check out his review now.
corran horn
06-11-2008, 09:51 AM
James Berardinelli gave it 3 stars. He also gave Lee's movie 3 1/2 stars. Which is what I suspect it would be for me.
What publication does he work for? His name doesn't ring a bell.
miguel_montes
06-11-2008, 02:03 PM
^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Berardinelli
JoeChar4321
06-11-2008, 02:32 PM
Berardinelli is one of the 6 critics i truly trust. Going to check out his review now.
"The Incredible Hulk provides Marvel with its second superhero hit of the summer. For comic book fans, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk represent a solid one-two punch."
Berardinelli is OK but he's no better or worse then other small critics.
BanksIsDaFuture
06-12-2008, 02:31 AM
The Incredible Hulk - 8/10
Now THIS is a Hulk movie. Forget ANYTHING about that 2003 disaster, this is in now way connected to that. This is a great story, with some great performances, and some of the best goddamn action I've seen in a long time.
Yes, the movie does get bogged down with some uninteresting mugging by Norton (reason it's not a 10/10), but all the scenes featuring the Hulk tearing shit up more than make up for it.
That last half hour. The build-up, the fight, and the pay-off. Just wow.
And, as a cherry on top, they build up the Avengers movie a little bit more. Marvel are hitting homeruns, Barry Bonds style.
Iacon5
06-12-2008, 09:30 AM
possible spoiler maybe***
http://www.geektyrant.com/2008/06/captain-america-cameo-gets-cut-from-the-incredible-hulk-movie/
can anyone who's seen it confirm or deny this? im seeing it tonight and i will be very disappointed if this is true.
dellamorte dellamore
06-12-2008, 09:36 AM
I don't care , i'm not watching this for some forced cross promotion cameos . If they're there cool , it's a bonus , but it's really a minor issue for me .
BanksIsDaFuture
06-12-2008, 10:24 AM
possible spoiler maybe***
http://www.geektyrant.com/2008/06/captain-america-cameo-gets-cut-from-the-incredible-hulk-movie/
can anyone who's seen it confirm or deny this? im seeing it tonight and i will be very disappointed if this is true.
That whole sequence is not in the movie.
JoeChar4321
06-12-2008, 05:48 PM
I love that most of the big guns are recommending the movie.
Michael Phillips seems to really like it. I haven't seen what Roeper thinks yet.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/
chinton
06-12-2008, 07:53 PM
I also notice that even in the positive reviews so many critics are giving the original Hulk a positive revaluation citing there reasons as basically it was deep and thoughtful. Of course they forget to mention it did those two things terribly in the original.
ilovemovies
06-13-2008, 01:08 AM
IMO, the only thing wrong with Lee's version was the last 15 minutes were, admittedly, terrible. But the rest of the movie were great.
I still stand by assessment that this will be a fun popcorn ride but not even come close to touching Lee's film. And the reviews I have read have done nothing to convince otherwise. Infact, they've made that belief stronger.
Iacon5
06-13-2008, 02:23 AM
This was exactly the Hulk movie i wanted, there was some awesome action, tons of marvel universe tie ins and and epic final scene.
my only disappointments are the removal of the scene i mentioned earlier and the lack of exploration into the hulk as a separate entity from banner, which i would like to see explored more in later films.
but all in all this was awesome.
AndrewDB
06-13-2008, 02:39 AM
Just got home from it.
Forget about Ang Lee's version.
Seriously. 15 minutes into this new one, I did, and so will you.
There is absolutely no origin other than the opening credits (to which effect upset me, as I'm an super hero origin junkie), however.. the rest of the film is fantastic.
The cameos are wonderful, especially the guard that Bruce talks to to get into a lab... and Stan Lee's is very enjoyable.
Liv Tyler is perfect as Betty Ross, William Hurt is a great cast choice for Gen. Thaddeus 'Thunderbolt' Ross.
Tim Roth is damn scary as Emil Blonsky and later Abomination..
My favorite scene involves Blonsky, a tree, and "is that all you've got..?"
*Laughing*.
Great movie. Totally worth seeing on the big screen.
8/10.
JoeChar4321
06-13-2008, 02:50 AM
My favorite scene involves Blonsky, a tree, and "is that all you've got..?"
*Laughing*.
Great movie. Totally worth seeing on the big screen.
8/10.
I wasn't expecting that scene, it wasn't like they've been showing in the trailers. It got a BIG reaction from the crowd I saw it with.
I just got back from the midnight show myself and I loved it!
9/10
The Incredible Hulk may not be the darkest comic-to-big screen adaptation yet, but it may be the best mixture. It’s a true psychodrama that touches on the depth of the human psyche but still delivers great comic book type action. It’s everything that the 2003 version wasn’t but should have been. It gives us a human element to which most anyone should be able to relate and manages to convey the Hulk as a hero and Banner as a truly tortured soul. Believable choices delivered by an exceptional cast. The large action spectacles make this film but the small character touches elevate it. The haircut, the tender moment in the helicopter, even the purse contents moment serve to wonderfully illustrate the love that Bruce and Betty share. That’s a big strength of this film. It’s obvious that they’ve know each other for years and their love runs deep. This adds depth to the Hulk’s actions. I also love the homage to Lou Ferrigno and Bill Bixby’s TV Hulk, not just the cameos but the man on the run tone. The action was as good as advertised and the CG worked better then I had hoped. These strengths make it more than your average wham-bam action flick and make Incredible Hulk one remarkable summer movie.
SpikeDurden
06-13-2008, 05:26 AM
*** SPOILERS THROUGHOUT THE REVIEW ***
I liked two things about this film. Craig Armstrong's fantastic score, and the last 30 seconds, which isn't really a spoiler anymore because it has been publicized ad nauseam.
Everything else, I thought, was laughably bad. From the cheesy over the top dialogue, to the horrible performances across the board (I didn't know Ed Norton could be this dull, nor William Hurt this loud and boring, nor Liv Tyler this shrill), the film was, yes yes, get ready for it, an abomination. There is absolutely zero plot, as we literally just follow Bruce/Hulk from place to place as the army arrives 2 minutes after him and then attack. And then we move to the next place and the same thing happens. But, each time, Emil Blonsky gets stronger and more mutated. Oh boy! The scene in the field at the college started out decent, but then it just got ridiculous as Hurt yelled for them to bring on a bigger and better weapons. And then we get the dull and chemistry-less romance, completely with shades of King Kong. And then we throw in an absolutely over-the-top and out of place Tim Blake Nelson for 15 minutes to simply set up the sequel.
I mean seriously, I don't get the praise for this film at all. The action was dull and laughable. There was no plot, no development to the characters, nothing and nobody to care about or root for. Psychodrama, some people say? Come on! And then it ends. And it ends in such a great and amazing way, in perhaps the greatest crossover/tie-in in film history. It's truly a landmark moment. It's just a shame that it had to be stuck in such an awful film. But I do applaud Marvel for the world they're setting up, and despite hating this film, I loved Iron Man so, so much, and Downey Jr. was still such a wonderful breath of fresh air in this film that I'll see every sequel and new film they throw my way. They've suckered me in. Good for them.
But seriously, though. Ang's Hulk is far superior. I didn't love that film. It has a lot of flaws. But it's much better written and acted, more creative and ambitious and cinematic. I just don't get what people are seeing in this film, particularly after how excellent and entertaining and near perfect Iron Man was.
Whatever. The Dark Knight will arrive soon enough, and I can always (and probably will) see Iron Man Again!
The Incredible Hulk - 3/10
navarr0
06-13-2008, 06:40 AM
8/10. Few problems i had with the film. Better none the less, i gave this one a big chance, because i want them to do better than Spidey 3, Elektra...you know.
So i've read, the captain was in a scene that was cut. Apparently, after Bruce fails to find a cure, he heads to the artic circle to take his life, where he apparently meets up with the Captain. How? no clue. A few friends and I are possibly brain storming the Captain being frozen in the ice. I dont know, just something to keep me thinking until the scene, apparently, hits the internet in a few weeks.
*Updated* i just saw the link to geektyrant.com. i guess im saving a little time.
P.S. Forget TDK, Im watching Hellboy first. Can you blame me? You probably can, but hellboy is such a.....silly superhero, its awesome!!
PR0J3KT M
06-13-2008, 08:50 AM
7/10.
Rukas
06-13-2008, 11:21 AM
8.5 out of 10.
Lot was left in the cut on this one though. The Cap America scene, the snow scenes, the scene where he is talking to Betty's new man the shrink that we see in the trailer, and probably a couple others.
I'd expect a BIG DVD of this one at some point, I wonder if that's what they were aiming for on purpose, hmm...
AndrewDB
06-13-2008, 12:11 PM
Ang's Hulk is far superior. I didn't love that film. It has a lot of flaws. But it's much better written and acted, more creative and ambitious and cinematic. I just don't get what people are seeing in this film, particularly after how excellent and entertaining and near perfect Iron Man was.
The Incredible Hulk - 3/10
This seems to be the critical consensus .. if you liked Ang's version you'll hate this version, if you disliked Ang's, you'll love this one.
Too bad this one's closer to the actual original storyline than Ang Lee's "look at Hulk he grows big the more pissed off he gets."..
Bah. Oh well.
CyclicNightmare
06-13-2008, 12:15 PM
This seems to be the critical consensus .. if you liked Ang's version you'll hate this version, if you disliked Ang's, you'll love this one.
That's not actually the point he's making. He says he DIDN'T love Ang Lee's and that it is only better compared to the new version.
tbone
06-13-2008, 12:19 PM
I certainly liked Lee's version of Hulk finding it to be very psychological - the daddy issue angle was very good. However, that movie was bloated with some silly action pieces -- Hulk takes on mutant dogs? Nick Nolte was way over the top for the mood of the film. This had much more Hulk smash without the psycholgical aspects of it -- but I think it found the right tone in Banner's wish to rid him of the destructiveness of his condition. 7/10
chinton
06-13-2008, 12:34 PM
People keep mentioning the psychological aspects in the original as if the simple fact that they happen to be present automatically makes them valid. I would love a Hulk film that combined great action with meaningful characters and development. Just becuase those aspects were there in a technichal sense in the original doesnt mean they worked. I mean it was really hard to care about the psychological aspects when you have Connelly giving a bored performance, Nolte chewing the scenery, and deliberately ending your movie with something that should have stayed a metaphor rather than "Hey lets have Hulk fight a misty cloud of metaphors in the literal sense".
I'm curious to see what this is like.
tbone
06-13-2008, 01:03 PM
People keep mentioning the psychological aspects in the original as if the simple fact that they happen to be present automatically makes them valid. I would love a Hulk film that combined great action with meaningful characters and development. Just becuase those aspects were there in a technichal sense in the original doesnt mean they worked. I mean it was really hard to care about the psychological aspects when you have Connelly giving a bored performance, Nolte chewing the scenery, and deliberately ending your movie with something that should have stayed a metaphor rather than "Hey lets have Hulk fight a misty cloud of metaphors in the literal sense".
I'm curious to see what this is like.
I certainy hear what you're saying. Despite Nolte being over the top - and I'll agree with you on the ending, I still found it to be a solid enjoyable film. The Incredible Hulk certainly doesn't have deep characters, but the action was far more enjoyable.
Lazy Boy
06-13-2008, 01:08 PM
Hulk parody on Jimmy Kimmel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne3YC339myg
"Wall-E could kick your ass!"
IanLovesMovies
06-13-2008, 02:06 PM
Wow this film was much better than I had originally anticipated. The story line was good, and the action sequences were amazing! It did have a lot of that mushy stuff going on between Bruce and Liv Tylers character, but my wife will like it better with that element. However it was really good. Definitely gonna be a Blu-Ray pick up for me once it gets released. Cant wait to watch it in my own home theater! A little Iron Man, Hulk, Dark Night marathon! Hell yea!
The Incredible Hulk - 8/10
HoboJoeBob
06-13-2008, 02:17 PM
possible spoiler maybe***
http://www.geektyrant.com/2008/06/captain-america-cameo-gets-cut-from-the-incredible-hulk-movie/
can anyone who's seen it confirm or deny this? im seeing it tonight and i will be very disappointed if this is true.
I just got back from seeing this and there's no Cap cameo during the movie or after the credits so there ya go.
project 86
06-13-2008, 02:59 PM
i believe scene with captain America was deleted from film as scene was where Bruce tried to kill himself and its pg13 film so they had t cut it and it will be on the dvd i hear captain America not physically seen just the presence like probably steve rogers name on a super soldier serum
Just posted this on my blog. I revised my grade down in writing the review, as the grade I had initially plumped for didn't feel honest next to this review.
The Incredible Hulk
Dir: Louis Leterrier
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In 2003 film critics the world over patted themselves on the back for coming up with the pun ‘You won’t like me when I’m Ang Lee’ in reviewing the Taiwanese Director’s intended franchise launcher Hulk. It’s a pun that’s stuck, and tarred an intriguing, if messy, film with an unwarranted reputation for being utter rubbish. Hulk isn’t rubbish, it’s a bit up itself, it’s utterly mad and at times it moves like a geriatric snail, but it’s a brave attempt to make something much deeper than your regular superhero movie.
Hulk’s key achievement, for me, is that it’s the only comic book movie ever to feel like a comic book, thanks to it’s utterly brilliant editing, which uses panels within panels and some hugely imaginative cuts to often startling effect, why it wasn’t Oscar nominated for it’s editing is beyond me. There are also some strong performances; notably from Jennifer Connelly and Sam Elliott, brilliantly cast as Betty and General ‘Thunderbolt’ Ross respectively.
Despite all this, some appreciative reviews, and enough kerching at the box office to show a decent profit Marvel were disappointed. Fans felt that the film was lacking in action, that it took too long to get to the Hulk, and that once he appeared he wasn’t in the film enough and there were also criticisms of the lack of a decent adversary for Hulk to take on (these entirely fair). It’s little surprise, then, to see them entirely relaunch the franchise with The Incredible Hulk.
It’s got to be said that, at first glance, this looks like a good thing. The talent assembled in front of the camera is pretty impressive. Edward Norton in particular is a real casting coup, an actor who seems almost rabidly serious about his craft, he’s never done a mainstream blockbuster before (well, besides The Italian Job, but he was apparently all but held at gunpoint to be coaxed into giving that performance) and seems about the last person who would come to mind when casting Bruce Banner, and yet Norton professed to being a major Hulk fan and has talked up the fact that he loves the character so much that he even wrote the film’s screenplay (a claim unacknowledged by the opening credits, which read Screen Story and Screenplay by Zak Penn). It is, then, both sad and surprising to see Norton’s performance, the most bloodless he’s ever given. The film lacks any sense of a character called Bruce Banner as Norton stumbles through scenes looking like a monumentally bored Edward Norton, often seeming visibly annoyed at the slumming he has resorted to. At the best of times Norton is an electrifying actor (do you remember how you felt the first time he showed us the twist in the tail of Primal Fear?) but here there’s not an ounce of emotion, not a frame where the actor goes away. Of all the things you need in a film like The Incredible Hulk the ability to suspend disbelief must rank near the top, Norton’s performance utterly scuppers that because you don’t even believe his name is Bruce Banner, let alone that he turns into a big green monster when he gets angry.
Liv Tyler is a deeply variable actress, she can be a likeable romantic foil with the right script and a good director (see Kevin Smith’s hugely underrated Jersey Girl) but she’s completely at sea here. First off she’s utterly miscast, while Jennifer Connelly is near ludicrously beautiful she also brought a convincing intellect to the part of Betty Ross (who is, after all, a research scientist working at the cutting edge of genetic research) whereas when you see her on the college campus Tyler looks more like a scatty sorority girl. The script, it has to be said, offers Tyler little help, it never gives her anything of import to do and her big moment has her ask whether she can take her lip gloss when she and Banner go on the run but as little as she’s given Tyler makes less of it. Her performance is that of somebody who has, before each take, just been woken from a tranquilliser induced slumber and wants nothing more than to get back to it. The scenes she shares with Norton are almost painful; two people expositing in a half awake monotone about things you don’t believe in or give half a shit about.
Tim Roth does a decent evil bastard, and it’s not that he’s bad here, it’s that (surprise surprise) his character is utterly colourless. There is literally nothing to Emil Blonsky; no personality, no through line, no drive, he’s no less artificial as a character when Roth is playing him than he is when a big pile of CGI takes over after his transformation into the (incredibly awkwardly named) Abomination. Roth snarls his lines with some bastardly relish, but what he’s tucking into is a large plate of nothing.
The closest thing to a decent performance comes from William Hurt, legitimately effective as Thunderbolt Ross but he’s hamstrung by a couple of things, first is the script’s tendency to make him (like all the other characters) occasionally become a moron, so the plot can advance and second is Sam Elliott. Elliott is just as good an actor as Hurt, and he was perfect as Ross in Ang Lee’s film, and he’s missed here.
Comic fans may be pleased by the news that The Incredible Hulk is much bigger and noisier than its predecessor; indeed from around the 30-minute mark it is pretty heavy on the action. That’s not enough though, just having fights doesn’t cut it if you can’t believe in them and don’t care about the result of them.
One major issue is that Hulk, as a character, is near impossible to root for. Honestly, what about this 8 foot tall, super strong, unkillable rampaging id monster is supposed to be sympathetic? In one key set piece Hulk smashes a military helicopter, blowing it up. This must kill, at a conservative estimate, five people on board the chopper, possibly others in the surrounding area, but Hulk is the hero, and he makes sure Banner’s girlfriend doesn’t die, so that’s fine. This makes all the action scenes rather joyless affairs.
Worse, though, is that the special effects challenges of realising Hulk haven’t really been solved. The CGI model looks like mildly annoyed dark green silly putty and its interactions with surroundings and people never convince. It’s the lack of weight that does it. Hulk is this huge presence and yet there’s never any sense of mass, of actual physicality, from the CGI, which makes the monster utterly unconvincing.
Ang Lee’s Hulk did fall apart completely in its nonsensical final reel and while, again, The Incredible Hulk ends with a much more conventional ‘crowdpleasing’ bang, the final act still feels utterly fumbled. Louis Leterrier has talked up his 26-minute final smackdown between Hulk and Abomination. 26 minutes. Of two CGI ‘characters’, both completely unconvincing, both impossible to root for hitting each other. It’s appalling. It’s boring to look at in the few moments you can actually make out what is going on and the rest of the time it is cut at such blistering pace that it is impossible to follow (and sometimes to tell which creature is doing what). It’s dark, ugly, boring to look at, and contains some of the out and out stupidest moments to grace any recent film.
If Louis Leterrier is going to be allowed to direct anything in the future it should be traffic, and only traffic. Here is a man of absolutely no personal vision. His action scenes are ripped off from a hundred other movies (hey, did you like the free running stunts in the Bourne movies? So did Louis, he’s ripped them off to prove it) and the character scenes are so laughably under directed that even his talented cast flounder. He’s technically competent enough, but anyone could make this film with this budget and this cast, and I’d wager that most would have made it better.
The Incredible Hulk is certainly a departure from the first Hulk film. Where that film overreached and alienated its potential audience by trying to be too smart, too groundbreaking The Incredible Hulk simply can’t be arsed. It chucks together all the regular ingredients, drops in action scenes every 20 minutes or so, motivation be damned, slaps it all together and says ‘Will that do?’ No. It won’t. This filmmaking by numbers makes my blood boil, this idea that it doesn’t matter if something is stupid and badly put together as long as it’s fighty and loud enough to make the target demographic happy is slowly poisoning blockbuster cinema and I’m sick and tired of it.
*
So... a bit different to the other reactions then.
fooknasty
06-13-2008, 04:24 PM
This movie was sweet. Plenty of action, good acting (except from Liv Tyler). The story was way better than the last Hulk (even though I liked that one as well).
8/10
Also, I have come to the conclusion that Liv Tyler cannot act, and should never be in another movie again. Period.
SpikeDurden
06-13-2008, 04:46 PM
That's not actually the point he's making. He says he DIDN'T love Ang Lee's and that it is only better compared to the new version.
Yes, thank you very much. That's exactly what I was saying. I did not love Ang's Hulk, but I certainly appreciate it more than this new one, which is really just, as someone said, paint by the numbers, loud, unnecessary blockbuster filmmaking. This film is so dull and lifeless, and so stupid and cheesy, at least Ang's version tried some new cinematic techniques and tried to explore the characters, however invalid the psychodrama might've been.
I wouldn't give Ang's version higher than a 6/10, but at least that's better than my 3/10 for this one.
xseanymacx
06-13-2008, 05:08 PM
I am going to smoke a J, buy a big ass bag of popcorn and some nacho, and probably love the hell out of this thing this weekend;)
fooknasty
06-13-2008, 05:20 PM
I am going to smoke a J, buy a big ass bag of popcorn and some nacho, and probably love the hell out of this thing this weekend;)
That's right my friend. If that's the attitude you take going into this movie, you will love it. :D
I see a bunch of people on this site trying to over analyze this movie. You know what though, it was a ton of freakin fun, and it was well acted. There was hardly a slow moment to the movie, and it just flows really well.
Fart Box
06-13-2008, 05:23 PM
That clip of the Hulk kicking Tim Roth 500 yards without his character dying from a shattered sternum soured me on this movie. Was Blonsky already injected with the super-soldier syrum when that fight happens. I sincerely hope so or that' just extremely lame.
solidstealth
06-13-2008, 05:25 PM
i was pleasantly surprised by this movie... i wasn't impressed with any of the trailers so i was quite skeptical going in... i have to say, i enjoyed it immensely... norton was stellar as banner and liv tyler just fit in as betty... tim roth is badass as usual... great action, quality cgi... definitely recommend 8/10
franky4fingerz
06-13-2008, 05:32 PM
humm. It was decent
7/10
PR0J3KT M
06-13-2008, 07:37 PM
That clip of the Hulk kicking Tim Roth 500 yards without his character dying from a shattered sternum soured me on this movie. Was Blonsky already injected with the super-soldier syrum when that fight happens. I sincerely hope so or that' just extremely lame.
SPOILER
yes.
Shockwave
06-13-2008, 08:09 PM
That clip of the Hulk kicking Tim Roth 500 yards without his character dying from a shattered sternum soured me on this movie. .
Heh.
In the movie that scene playes out ALOT more brutal and quick.
A shatterd sternum would be the least of his worries at that point.:D
I dug the hell out of the movie. Its not IRON MAN, but its still tons of fun. 8/10.
Marvel is doing good so far.
*******************SPOILERS!********************** ***************
I dont know why, but my favorite image of the movie was the Hulk roaring at the lightning and rain to stay away from Betty. Just an awesome Frankenstien moment.
MisterTwister
06-13-2008, 08:15 PM
I'll be seeing it tomorrow afternoon.
poopontheshoes7
06-13-2008, 08:56 PM
*******************SPOILERS!********************** ***************
I dont know why, but my favorite image of the movie was the Hulk roaring at the lightning and rain to stay away from Betty. Just an awesome Frankenstien moment.
Yes! I was going to say the same thing! Awesome shot.
I got a geek boner a few times during the movie.
SPOILERSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
-Introduction of the Leader
-The opening credits pretty much are a homage to the TV series
-The sad walking away music
-When Hulk said "Hulk smash!!!"
-Tony Starks arrival (Even though I knew it was coming I still smiled from ear to ear.)
This Hulk doesnt have the deep pshycological aspect of Angs film, but its not "dumbed down" really. I liked those flashes of gun fire and such Bruce would have. Kinda like Hulks memory finding its way into Bruces. Although Jennifer Connely is a better actress, I think the relationship of Bruce and Betty was much better in this film than 2003s. Sam Elliot was the better Thunderbolt Ross, but Hurt did a good job. Tim Roth was just cool as hell as Abomination and the final battle (nowhere near 26 minutes long) pretty much defines spectacle, and is one of the best fight scenes in any superhero movie to date.
8.5/10 Marvel is on a role and this summer is officially kicking all kinds of ass.
athf1980
06-13-2008, 10:24 PM
4/5
"spoilers"
A very enjoyable comic book movie. the action scenes are top notch. I like how their setting up other movies from the marvel universe along with this and Iron Man
Shale
06-13-2008, 10:58 PM
The Incredible Hulk
Review by Shale
June 13, 2008
I went into this movie knowing very little about the Hulk. Oh, I read a few of the comics as a kid and watched a few eps of the TV show in the '70s, so I know the backstory but I am not an aficionado of this comic character. I know there was a Hulk movie in 2003, which I never saw and which most critics are suggesting you put out of your mind and start fresh with this one.
This movie is free-standing for anyone with no background in The Hulk story. The gamma ray accident that created The Hulk out of Dr. Bruce Banner (Edward Norton, who also co-wrote the screenplay) is shown during the opening credits. This also introduces Banner's love interest, Betty Ross (Liv Tyler) and her ambitious, conniving father, General Thaddeus Ross (William Hurt). From this scene we also find out that an agitated Banner turns into The Hulk (I think the TV show established that for everyone.)
Don't Make Me Angry
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The story quickly progresses with Banner on the run, pursued by Gen. Ross who wants to use his DNA to create an army of monster soldiers. Banner holes up in a slum in Rio and is working on finding a cure to get rid of The Hulk. (I hope the aerial shots of that slum is mostly CGI because it appears on screen to be a tragedy waiting to happen).
Dr. Banner Searching for a Cure to Hulk
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The general brings in an aggressive commando, Emil Blonsky (Tim Roth) to go after The Hulk and after their first encounter, Blonsky wants to become a monster so he can fight The Hulk one-on-one. The general obliges and Blonsky turns himself into The Abomination, an even more menacing monster that has a knock-down-drag-out with The Hulk in Harlem.
Blonsky Becoming Abomination
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There were nods to the whole history of The Hulk with creator Stan Lee's usual cameo, as well as Lou Farrigno the TV Hulk (Still buff for a 56-year-old). I liked this movie, despite the fact that The Hulk is so obviously CGI. But, that is The Hulk that we know, not an overbuilt real person but one larger than life as drawn on the pages of a comic book.
This latest Marvel Comic movie suggests an enlarging franchise of all these characters, perhaps even The Avengers themselves coming together. It is no longer a secret that Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr./Iron Man) makes an appearance in this movie, just as Samuel L Jackson appeared after the end credits in Iron Man as Nick Fury. Something is going on.
(Oh, BTW, you don't have to sit thru all the end credits of The Incredible Hulk. Nothing more to see.)
JohnLocke2342
06-14-2008, 01:41 AM
This movie kicked my ass, held me down, grabbed me, through me back in my seat and kicked the fuck out of me again.
I loved Iron Man (9/10), and thought it was one of the best movies I've seen all year... and then THIS comes along. I'm not even a huge Hulk fan, or an early supporter of this movie. I was a bit skeptical, but eventually my love of Norton and the kick ass spots won me over. I went in with decent expectations, expecting something that would be ok, not Iron Man or Batman Begins, but maybe the B movie version of those? Holy christ was I wrong.
Edward Norton blew me away, and gave as good as a performance as Downey in Iron Man. Two completely different characters but two completely amazing performances. He was Banner, and I laughed and cried along with him on his journey. Liv Tyler did ok, as did William Hurt.. but Tim Roth? Wow, can you say Ultimate badass? He made Jeff Bridges look like Elmo. What a completely bad ass mother fucker terrorizing the world.. his obsession convinced me that there was something terribly wrong with his persona, and I loved it.
The Stark cameo in the end made me jump for joy and eagerly await The Avengers movie. I have nothing bad to say about The Incredible Hulk.. nothing at all. I didn't feel like anything was forced or thrown at me in the wrong way. And the cameos were spot on and enjoyable. There were a good amount of em too. I loved this movie to death and it kicked the shit out of the sold out audience I just got back from seeing it with, in a GIGANTIC theater at the last showing (11:10pm) of the night. Judging by the 2 minute ovation and whooping of the crowd, they loved it too.
9/10
HULK SMASH!
gspawn
06-14-2008, 02:51 AM
*spoiler-free*
The Incredible Hulk- 8/10
...and for comparison, Iron Man was a 9/10.
Yes, Iron Man sets the bar. So I'll just go plus/minus.
What Hulk does better:
+Is this CGI even greater than Iron Man? It's a really tough call- but the scene with the Hulk in the rain is probably the most convincing giant monster CGI ever committed to film. I see a lot of reviewers saying the CGI wasn't up to snuff- are there different reels of this flick out there or something? Seriously. Iron Man might have been more solid overall, but the Hulk's rain scene needs awards ASAP.
+Holy cow there's a lot of in-jokes and fan detail. We have an Avengers tie-in (this isn't even a spoiler at this point). We have Lou Ferrigno as both the voice of the Hulk and in cameo form- a very good cameo as well. Stan Lee's cameo is of course present. The "walking away" music from the TV show is back. There's a lot of enjoyment for comic nerds to have here. Hulk tops Iron Man for sheer number of in-jokes, and all of them rock.
What Hulk doesn't do better:
-I really freakin' love Ed Norton, but the characters just weren't overall as excellent as Iron Man. Norton is great, Tyler is a good love interest that doesn't whine too much, William Hurt is good, Tim Roth is just the right kind of crazy... but it's just never quite as funny or as involving as Iron Man. Then again, they took a lot more of the tone of the TV show with Dr. Banner always running away from the beast within, so maybe that's to be expected (although the kitchen sink hits the fan in the final act, of course).
My date said it best- "Why wasn't THIS the first Hulk movie?". And she happens to be the sort of person who enjoyed Ang Lee's rendition (which I hated).
The truth is, this is exactly what a Hulk movie should be, no more and no less. Marvel did an excellent job on all levels, and I'll be incredibly psyched if they can keep this quality up moving forward.
And finally: Screw most of the critics on this one. Most of the hate that I see is from people who shouldn't be seeing comic films in the first place. Like people who say Hulk looked "cartoony" in daylight- he's a FREAKING HUGE GREEN MAN FOR CHRISSAKES! It doesn't matter how real the CGI ever gets, a huge green man is just cartoony by nature. Or people who think the plotlines aren't original enough- these movies are BASED ON existing media. There's some unoriginality built into the very concept. Never mind that these comics helped form the mythos that all future Western media would branch off from, meaning everything else you've seen is the copy and this is the original, but I digress... basically, this is a fun summer movie. Enjoy it.
*begin spoilers*
-"Is that all you got?" This is a classic moment, handled so perfectly well. The build-up, the tension, and with absolutely no warning just FOOM- then a good resolution afterward. Brilliant.
-The police car rock-em sock-em moment was the funnest part of the film for me. Just completely brutal and cool.
-For anyone reading spoilers who hasn't seen the movie, they mention World War II, super soldiers, and "serum" in sequence right before pulling a tube of blue magic out of storage that makes Tim Roth so agile he can dodge the Hulk's strikes, but that doesn't give him any super-stamina (hence the "Is that all you got" moment- he gets crushed to bits but heals faster and better than any normal human possibly could). Yes, all of the build-up for Captain America is there. If Cap got cut, it was probably more because DowneyJr kicked ass in Iron Man and less due to other factors.
-Hulk. F*cking. Smash.
Shockwave
06-14-2008, 04:21 AM
Tim Roth really did own just about very scene he was in.
"How do u feel man!?"
"Like a monster!":D
Crazy Dud
06-14-2008, 04:57 AM
NO SPOILERS!
The Incredible Hulk may not quite be incredible, but it is certainly very good. The first 45 minutes of the film are a tad bit slow, and the climax seems slightly rushed, but this movie is everything that a Hulk movie should be. It is an adrenaline-soaked roller coaster ride with heart. In between the action sequences we see characters that are nicely fleshed out and developed, which is rare for these types of films. The Incredible Hulk is the best movie of the summer season so far. Don't miss it!
8/10
psycheoutsteve
06-14-2008, 09:32 AM
*SPOILERS*
Well, it's not quite incredible, but it will do as a solid comic book action film. For me, it's about on par with Iron Man. The first half of the movie was the most interesting, with Banner on the run from the military in Brazil. The CGI looked mostly alright, but I still felt like the cinematography could've captured the action and characters a bit better in some sequences, particularly the action scene at the University. I didn't feel that there was much depth to the characters or the film itself either. Edward Norton is good here, but he kind of slept walk through his performance. Liv Tyler tries to show a little bit too much emotion and ends up coming off a bit too shallow and mushy. Norton's and Tyler's chemistry also felt very forced. William Hurt brings presence, but not much else to the film. Tim Roth had the tough guy/power hungry attitude his character required, but I still wondered why one of Britain's greatest soldiers was rather short and scrawny looking. I'm supposed to believe that guy is a warrior?
You do feel a sense of loneliness and despair with Norton's character, but the film never takes a more psychological approach to the material and goes the straightforward route. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I like a good super hero flick that delves into the psyche a little and this film just wouldn't let me in. Instead, the film makers seemed more concerned with making a film to please comic fans. As a result, some people might feel left out of the loop when certain bits of homage to the comics are revealed or talked about, but fortunately it never strays too far into geek land to lose the mainstream audience.
The climatic battle between the Hulk and the abomination was entertaining to a point, and then anti-climatic. So what does the military plan do with the abomination? It never really answers that question. Why does a counter caption appear telling the audience how many days without incident have gone by in the film after we learn that it's been an initial 158 days since anything has happened at the start of the film? I mean, we've been paying attention to the movie so we know how many times he's transformed into the Hulk already. Then there's the origin sequence. While a good throwback to the T.V. series, showing the origin at the immediate beginning kind of ruins the pay off of seeing him transform later. Granted, you don't see a lot of the Hulk in those shots, but knowing he transforms right at the beginning effects the build up.
The score of the movie fit, but I preferred Danny Elfman's haunting score in the last movie, which to me, captured the essence of the Hulk much better. The audio production felt a bit muffled when it came to the dialogue in the movie. Maybe that was a problem just at my theater, but at points I couldn't hear some of the lines the characters were saying.
The film had a good sense of humor, an interesting hint at a future villain, a funny cameo with Lou Ferrigno, and a great cameo by Robert Downey Jr. pointing to the Avengers film. Enjoyable, but not exactly spectacular, the Incredible Hulk is an average super hero flick that gets the job done. Marvel seems to be on the right track and playing it safe by making 2 solid films this summer. 7/10
However, Iron Man and Hulk are just warm ups for what will be the real superhero tour de force movie of the summer...The Dark Knight!!!
ilovemovies
06-14-2008, 02:35 PM
Very enjoyable for the first two thirds but once Tim Roth turns into his hulk guy the movie gets awfully silly, sloppy and rushed. Still pretty solid overall, though not nearly as great as Ang Lee's movie. The action in this movie is superior but the story and character development and that movie's style make it an overall better and more complete movie. Though Tim Roth gives a much better performance than Nick Nolte did. I will give this movie that. And the ending to this movie isn't as bad as the ending to Lee's movie. But overall, Lee's movie is the more complete package. It was about something. This is essentially just a two hour chase movie. But a very entertaining one with some very awesome action. Not the climax though. Didn't care for the climax. I still enjoyed this more than Iron Man though. Just a tad.
7/10
dellamorte dellamore
06-14-2008, 03:44 PM
It gave me what i wanted , Hulk tearing everything up in his path , and the cgi was stunning at times . This is the best cgi incarnation of Hulk , the detail evident is spectacular . Rippling muscles , facial expressions , the way his joints move , they got it right this time . Abomination , not so impressive , he looked something out of Res Evil : CV , you can see where they spent the most time .
Spoilers
It was odd , everyone in this film seems bored , i can see why someone mentioned that they seem as if they are reading off of cue cards , i could have sworn i saw some of them , in a couple of scenes , looking off to the side , no joke , it was distracting . Norton tries as hard as he can with the material he has , but he's underwhelming , i never bought his inner rage . Roth is just about wasted , he was just a setup for Abomination . He shot a dog in one scene , but other than that forced i'm a bad guy moment , he seemed pretty tame for such an ambitious career military officer . I'm sorry man , you can't tell the audience someone is supposed to be all badass , it has to come from the performance , Roth failed to engage me as someone who would go off the deep end and go insane because he had a lust for power .
Tyler , oh man , i loved her as Arwen , she was born to play that role , and her ethereal , uncommon beauty is perfectly suited to such a character , here , she's just another pretty face . A cellular biologist , LOL , didn't buy that one for a second .
William Hurt looked like he was in pain or constipated in every scene he was in , Sam Elliot was way more effective and energetic in the first one . There were these strange , awkward pauses concerning the delivery of his lines , it threw me off balance . In fact the whole film , save for TBN , was one big awkward pause with unbelievable and simplistic dialogue .
TBN , i didn't think this guy would be the most interesting character . His manic scientist was a jolt of much needed energy and comic relief , too bad he wasn't utilized more . Aside from the action scenes , his scenes were the highlight during the expository sequences .
What can i say , Hulk Smash great , everything else underwhelming . There's some minor plot holes . banner hacks into a uni computer , sends a text message to Blake and voila , he answers instantly , like he was waiting all that time to hear from him and he had his fingers on the keyboard all ready to answer a person who may never contact him again . I guess tha's why they call it instant messaging , to the extreme , this was more like esp messaging . Hurt pulls a sample of the antidote out of a cryogenic chamber and holds it in his bare hands , LOL . Also it looked like the T Virus :) .
The beginning takes forever to get going , i was growing anxious waiting for something exciting to happen . The chase through the little town and across the rooftops was boring and uninspired , i didn't feel any excitement during this chase . Then we get to the wharehouse and Hulk finally makes an appearance , it was cool , but it still didn't do anything for me .
I would say , wait for the last half hour , that was great . Once Hulk gets to really start going bonkers , it's a sight to behold , fast and furious like we've never seen him before . His fight with abomination is the highlight of the film , with regards to the action , and somehow for the most part , you can follow the action no problem even if it's moving at lightning speed .
This thing needed some more time to gestate , i know they can do better , because this isn't the Hulk film i wanted or expected . I still recommend it though , because it does enough things right to satisfy the comic book fans and someone looking for a sometimes thrilling action film , it simply falls flat in some areas .
It's still better than Indy 4 , and you have to see Hulk smashing up a storm on the big screen .
Marvel is 1 for 2 this summer , because Ironman was just as good as everyone has been saying . If i saw that before this , the last scene in the bar with a drunken Hurt would have had more impact , but i'm glad i saw Iron after , it woke me up .
Shockwave
06-14-2008, 03:49 PM
because Ironman was just as good as everyone has been saying . If i saw that before this , the last scene in the bar with a drunken Hurt would have had more impact , but i'm glad i saw Iron after , it woke me up .
I told u that u would like it!:D
dellamorte dellamore
06-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Yeah , yeah , check out the Ironman thread , i already said i was ready to eat some crow , what more do you want :) .
Shockwave
06-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Yeah , yeah , check out the Ironman thread , i already said i was ready to eat some crow , what more do you want :) .
Blood.
:)
I actualy think the director of this could do a good Ghost Rider movie if they ever "reboot" it.
dellamorte dellamore
06-14-2008, 04:12 PM
He knows how to do action , but he's still somewhat sophmoric when it comes to narrative and pacing between all the action .
By the way , you''l have to go to the blood bank , i just donated ;)
Cop No. 633
06-14-2008, 05:24 PM
Man, all these positive reviews are making me feel more comfortable! Thanks guys. I'll be seeing it in a couple of hours. I'm sure it will be money well spent compared to the Happening which seems to be getting more negative reviews.
KillaMyers
06-14-2008, 05:51 PM
Really disappointed by this movie. 4/10
The best things I can say about it is that the performances were quite solid all around, especially Norton and Roth. I liked the first half set in Rio. And the Campus battle was pretty impressive.
But I cannot fucking believe how many people are praising the CGI. There are some nice shots, like the close-ups on Betty and Hulk in the cave,the aforementioned Campus battle,and Abomination's initial attack on the city. But everthing else was just terrible and utterly cartoonish,completely took me out of the movie. I saw nothing here that came even close to ILM's work on Ang Lee's Hulk. In terms of rendering detail,animation and realism there's really no comparison at all.
echo_bravo
06-14-2008, 06:09 PM
Liked it but didnt love it. It was much better than I expected but its not in the same ballpark as Sin City, Batman Begins or even Iron Man.
The CGI was better than expected. I got to admit that I was pretty impressed.
I will be generous and give it a 7/10.
Bring on The Dark Knight!!!
ilovemovies
06-14-2008, 06:26 PM
Really disappointed by this movie. 4/10
The best things I can say about it is that the performances were quite solid all around, especially Norton and Roth. I liked the first half set in Rio. And the Campus battle was pretty impressive.
But I cannot fucking believe how many people are praising the CGI. There are some nice shots, like the close-ups on Betty and Hulk in the cave,the aforementioned Campus battle,and Abomination's initial attack on the city. But everthing else was just terrible and utterly cartoonish,completely took me out of the movie. I saw nothing here that came even close to ILM's work on Ang Lee's Hulk. In terms of rendering detail,animation and realism there's really no comparison at all.
Everything about Abomination sucked I thought. The entire climax was, as I said earlier, silly, sloppy and rushed. I agree I didn't like his fight with Hulk at all. Worst action scene.
On the otherhand, I LOVED the campus action sequence. Very, very cool. And the chase through Brazil was also easily the movie's other highlight. It very much reminded me of the rooftop chase in Morroco in The Bourne Ultimatum although it isn't quite as breathlessly thrilling as the one in Bourne. The camera work in Bourne is what made that so great. And that's kind of missing here. Still a great chase.
CuatroDiablos
06-14-2008, 07:51 PM
Everything about Abomination sucked I thought. The entire climax was, as I said earlier, silly, sloppy and rushed. I agree I didn't like his fight with Hulk at all. Worst action scene.
On the otherhand, I LOVED the campus action sequence. Very, very cool. And the chase through Brazil was also easily the movie's other highlight. It very much reminded me of the rooftop chase in Morroco in The Bourne Ultimatum although it isn't quite as breathlessly thrilling as the one in Bourne. The camera work in Bourne is what made that so great. And that's kind of missing here. Still a great chase.
You mena that crappy shaky camera? I doubt that makes a chase scene better.
anakinsrise
06-14-2008, 07:51 PM
There has been something to like about all the interpretations of The Incredible Hulk from Comics to Ang Lee's Hulk
While Lee's delved more into Banner's repressed anger,and wounded childhood
psych,Director:Louis Leterrier Hulk is more action orientated.Though reportedly Nortons draft and analysis of The Hulk was cut from the film but hopefully we will see this on the DVD
The action sequences are rousing and rumbling fun.
Origin is summed up quick which i liked and Norton,Hurt,Tyler,and Roth
give good performances
Great nods to Bill Bixby and purple elastic pants.
Cool cameos and some i saw coming
I liked the fact that Banner had in a way began to move on with his life as did his beloved Betty.I mean how could Banner resist this beauty:
Débora Nascimento
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My problems with the movie: to many scenes cut out that i have heard about or saw in previous trailers and clips
Other than that Marvel is really coming on strong
Scale of 1-10 an 8
visual_tension
06-14-2008, 09:52 PM
It has its flaws, but it was good overall. Awesome action. Letterier was a good choice for this.
7/10
Cop No. 633
06-14-2008, 10:55 PM
A vast improvement over Ang Lee's film. I have to say, I didn't find the ending disappointing with the monsters. It is what it is: a monster movie. At the heart of the Hulk is Godzilla. He's not like any other superhero because he really isn't one, so when it turned into that, I have to say, I enjoyed it because monster movies are hard to pull off but they managed to give the monsters character before the showdown. I have to say though, I wished Abomination wouldn't have spoken. If he was supposed to be a more degraded version of Banner, I would have preferred no dialogue whatsoever. Although the fan inside of me thought it was awesome when he says Hulk Smash and the sonic boom clap from the comics. The film had nice touches like that.
I agree with you Ilovemovies about the Brazil sequence. It was a a visually rich location. I loved that sequence a lot as well. The campus sequence was great.
I have to say, I liked this one better than Ang's film. Ang was mixed on the tone of the film. I think he was just too serious about it. Hulk is after all a monster and once you put that on film, it needs a sense of adventure, which I felt Ang's lacked. Ang's film was too brooding for me and I wasn't engaged by the drama. I like Bana as an actor but not as Bruce Banner. I didn't buy him in the role. They went out of his way to make him look "puny" when he dwarfed somebody like Josh Lucas. Norton was a perfect fit for Banner. He brought that lonely sense of history to the character. As soon as you see him, you believe that he's lived alone on the run for years. He fits more into the mild mannered dork that Bruce is.
I'm really putting my trust with Marvel studios. Their first two films are both very well made comic book films from minor characters compared to the powerhouses of Spider-Man and X-Men and I honestly enjoyed both more than any of the X-Men films. I still think Spider-Man 2 is a masterpiece, but I think Iron Man and Hulk have proved that Marvel knows their characters better than anyone and I never want to see another Marvel film without having them calling the shots.
These films are just a warm up for what's to come. I hope this puts the Happening in a body bag. :)
shoe1985
06-15-2008, 12:24 AM
I loved this movie. It had me from the first scene on. My expectations going in was this would suck badly, I was happy to be wrong. I thought the CGI was excellent, acting was superb, and story was perfect. In fact, I would say I liked this more than Iron Man, which I felt dragged at times.
9/10
DodgersFan11
06-15-2008, 12:27 AM
This film was extremely entertaining. It wasn't over the top nor did it come up short. This movie was just right in my opinion. Roth stole the show I think, but Edward Norton did a fantasic job as well. You can't really complain about any of the acting in this movie actually, which hasn't been true for almost any superhero film yet.
The action will speak for itself, just fantasic. The first time Hulk starts beating up on Abomination got me fucking pumped!
*MINOR SPOILERS*
The only thing that bothered me was Abomination talking. I don't know if he did in the comics or not but I think they could have done without that aspect. It didn't take me out of the movie or anything, it's just he kept saying the same shit Roth had already said throughout the movie. Just more sinister without the dialogue I think.
*END SPOILERS*
9/10
Preston_79
06-15-2008, 12:37 AM
Would someone address the scientist trying to help Banner. I mean obviously some shit went down with him in the end and I'm thinking he could have a further role in the inevitable sequel.
Enjoyed the movie as much as Iron Man.
I hope this movie has an extended cut when it comes out on DVD.
jolanar
06-15-2008, 01:02 AM
Really enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as Iron Man, but in many ways it's easier to criticize a Hulk film as he is a much more recognizable character.
The most impressive part of the movie was the action scenes with the Hulk. They easily turned a mediocre movie into a better than average comic book movie. The final showdown was flat out jaw dropping. The CGI was damn near flawless. Some of the best I have ever seen. If it wasn't for the action this movie would probably get a much lower rating from me.
And oh yes lets not forget the Iron Man cameo! Marvel is really getting their shit together in the movie business. Now all we need is a great Captain America movie and were set for the Avengers.
The Incredible Hulk: 7/10
Shockwave
06-15-2008, 04:12 AM
Would someone address the scientist trying to help Banner. I mean obviously some shit went down with him in the end and I'm thinking he could have a further role in the inevitable sequel.
.
In the comics Sterns is a super smart scientist known as THE LEADER who has gamma powerd smarts to combat THE HULKs gamma powerd strength. He went on to become The Hulks most deadly foe.
AndrewDB
06-15-2008, 04:16 AM
In the comics Sterns is a super smart scientist known as THE LEADER who has gamma powerd smarts to combat THE HULKs gamma powerd strength. He went on to become The Hulks most deadly foe.
:eek:.
That would make a bad ass sequel.
Edit:
I think I got my wish (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/4621.asp)!
Cop No. 633
06-15-2008, 04:18 AM
Would someone address the scientist trying to help Banner. I mean obviously some shit went down with him in the end and I'm thinking he could have a further role in the inevitable sequel.
I really liked what they did with Sam Sterns, aka the Leader. He's going to be villain in the second film. The Leader is great because he's always been the Hulk's foil. Whereas the Hulk is primal and incredibly strong, the Leader is a fragile man but his brain grows and he becomes incredibly smart and intuitive, and he gets telekinetic powers.
That's another thing I really liked about the Hulk. They setup the villain for the second film without really having Sterns turn evil or hate Bruce for no apparent reason. The Leader could turn out to be an interesting villain for the next one.
I can't wait until more minor characters get this film treatment like Daredevil. They really need to redeem the steaming pile of a film that Mark Steven Johnson made. It doesn't even belong in the Marvel universe.
PreySlayDisplay
06-15-2008, 06:23 AM
I actually liked it a tad bit more than Iron Man. I thought Iron Man had a weak climax as well as a weak main villain. This movie did just the opposite. Great final battle and Abomination was awesome I thought. Edward Norton and Tim Roth did great. Marvel is just spoiling us now.
8/10
bigred760
06-15-2008, 08:51 AM
It was a kickass ride, that's all I know. The Hulk scenes (emphasis on the plural) were exciting and adrenaline-pumping, the story and characters were interesting, and I like how they implemented elements of the show into the movie: like a shot of Bill Bixby on TV, Lou Ferrigno, and the music. It's a fun comic book movie with good performances, great action, and it's a kickass time at the movies.
8/10
AspectRatio1986
06-15-2008, 02:46 PM
Just got back from a showing of this, I really enjoyed it. The action was great, a huge improvement over 2003's Hulk. I liked the cameo from Downey, even though I didn't like Iron Man all that much. I wasnt too excited for this movie at all because I'm not a huge fan of the Hulk, but it was a must see at the theater, and it sure did deliver for me.
8/10
ElderPredator
06-15-2008, 03:31 PM
Just as fucking good as "Iron Man" and another triumph for Marvel. I am absolutely pissing myself for the "Avengers" now.
Final Vote: 9.5/10
It doesn't get 10 because I missed Jennifer Connelly so much everytime I saw Liv Tyler (she's cute but Connelly is a goddess)
biff_debris
06-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Killer flick, completely bought the CG Hulk (esp. the forementioned rainy cave scene), and thought Abomination looked well enough to meet both the standards held by movie buffs and comic nerds alike. Norton had the "lonely hero" thing down, Tyler tickled me in the NY cab scene, and William Hurt seemed to perfectly channel the blustery spirit of Keenan Wynn. Or maybe it was just the mustache. Anyways, I loved it, so getting this and Iron Man when the DVDs are trundled out.
8/10
jdparker
06-15-2008, 10:21 PM
3/5
I was really intrigued with Banner in Brazil trying to control his demons. I felt the rest to be a little bogged down with action sequences, and trying to fill in all the gaps of the first half and it came up a little sloppy.
I thought it was beautifully shot, and The Hulk looked GREAT. But, Liv Tyler was really bad.
One thing that I missed, or maybe it was just glossed over, why was Tylers character called Betty when her name was Elizabeth?
Norton was great. He's a truly fascinating actor. For the most part I really enjoyed the action sequences, especially the Brazil chase/bottle factory overall I guess I just felt the movie lacked focus and because of this I lost interest periodically.
The other thing... ***SPOILER***
Downey Jr. showing up at the end --- sure that was cool or whatever... but if the film had ended with the flash of Nortons green-eyes than that would of been far better. All that cameo told me was that another Marvel cash-grab is coming up in a couple summers. I think it would of been a cool thing to put after the credits...
***END SPOILER***
Ender
06-16-2008, 04:16 AM
I'm not going to compare this to the Lee film, because they're as different as two movies about the Hulk can be (which, it turns out, is surprisingly much). I am, however, going to compare it to IRON MAN, if for no other reason than that it intentionally invites comparison. Like IRON MAN, THE INCREDIBLE HULK has a lot going on, but also like IRON MAN it knows when to stop taking itself seriously and just go with the adrenaline. I would call HULK an overall better flick than the Favreau/Downey film, but only because it's not bogged down in so much origin story muddle.
THE INCREDIBLE HULK plays on a winning combination of the old NBC Bill Bixby series and its always pogniant fugitive storyline of a man who the run who just wants a normal life and the kind of testosterone waterslide that only a modern day action movie can produce. Although Roger Ebert disliked the film, he did manage to succesfully identify and articulate its succesful formula: "Without Banner, the Hulk would be one-dimensional, but without the Hulk no one would make a movie about Banner." The film is certainly bipolar and not every individual scene works, but the very real pain and frustration of the character who just desperately wants to not live in fear are quite palpable throughout. And everytime it seems like he might be able to relax his guard just a tiny bit, in come the stormtroopers and out comes Big Green to totally bum out his day.
Norton is really excellent, although I found some of his mooning facial expressions toward Tyler just a tiny bit much. Tyler was also a bit hard to take seriously, but she's also impossible not to love. She and Norton didn't really have much chemistry, but that actually worked in the movie's favor. The characters have been apart so long and are in such a strange situation that it creates a distance between them, an awkwardness that they struggle to overcome. Similarly, William Hurt at first seems rather stiff, but as the movie goes on it becomes clear that really he's just playing a stiff character, a man who is always wearing a mask and putting on an act, even to himself. Unlike Norton or Roth, he doesn't have the benefit of seeing what's hiding deep down inside him, so he gets to pretend that it's not there. The performances are a bizarre compilation of the best part of everyone's weaknesses. I'm not really sure why it hangs together, but I'm happy enough that it does.
The Hulk doesn't look real, of course, but he was never going to. Maybe it's best that they gave up and just concentrated on making him look cool. Oddly, he looks better wet, I'm not sure why. The second fight scene becomes a bit comical, as you have to wonder how they got all this military hardware onto the campus without anyone noticing, but what the heck. I really have to admire the decision to keep the Hulk out of sight for much of the first half of the movie, shooting him Ridley Scott ALIEN-style in a very slick, claustrophobic action scene that is the complete inversion of the broad daylight no-holds-barred follow-up.
Surprisingly, Tim Roth left me a little cold. I'm a huge fan and we all know he plays psycho better than anyone, but I don't know, it just didn't work for me here. Maybe he was just underwritten. Also, what the hell was with Tim Blake Nelson? I guess they thought the movie needed a lighter tone at this point, or else Nelson just wanted to make a lot out of a small part, but it just grated on my nerves. I've never been a big fan of that bad guy, so I hope they have a really good screenwriter for the next flick, cuz he's gonna have to spin some straw into gold.
Bottom line, good movie, couldn't ask for much more. There were about 700 ways to do this wrong and maybe one or two ways to do it right, so kudos all around.
Amarcord90
06-16-2008, 04:38 AM
Ever since i heard about the release of this film i have been struggling with the idea of Edward Norton as HULK!? It is baffled me so much that despite my severe desire to avoid this film at all costs, i think i may have to, just to see if my hypotheses are correct!;)
Ender
06-16-2008, 05:43 AM
He's a good fit in the part. His sort of natural awkward charisma very much becomes the character.
As long as I'm still wanting to talk about the movie, I was just considering it's interesting political tone, especially in comparison with IRON MAN. Both movies explore the dangers posed by the military industrial complex and suggest that the system is a bigger threat to society than the things they claim to be a guard against. But both also suggest that it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle so now it's up to responsible individuals to control it. I would say that IRON MAN is the slightly more conservative film whereas THE INCREDIBLE HULK is a touch more liberal, but both arrive at the same conclusion, and it's interesting to see them take their separate routes. It's interesting also to compare the respective characters; you couldn't have two more different men than Tony Stark and Bruce Banner, but they both find themselves in identical positions of having put something horrible into the hands of unethical people and now having to deal with it.
CuatroDiablos
06-16-2008, 06:17 AM
Spoiler!!!
At the end of the movie when Norton was meditating and opened his green eyes ..did he get control of the Hulk? does that mean that the Hulk in the next film will be controlled by Banner?
Ender
06-16-2008, 06:28 AM
***MINOR SPOILERS***
It's intentionally ambiguous:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2008/06/13/should-hulk-be-the-villain-in-the-avengers-you-decide-says-hulk-director/
"I would love to see [the Hulk become the villain that fights the Avengers] because I think the best villains are always the ones whose agenda you understand. They’re not synthetic to us in a way; they’re not these one dimensional bad guys.
"So that last shot of the movie, if you decide that he’s smiling, in control, then he’s a good guy, that’s ‘The Hulk 2'. If Hulk is a failure, then he looks up and smirks and that’s eventually the Hulk of the Avengers — the uncontrollable beast that they need to team up to stop."
CuatroDiablos
06-16-2008, 07:22 AM
Cool..thank's.
I prefer the second option...why would Starks offer Ross a chance to form a team in the first place? To stop his biggest nemesis.
God of War
06-16-2008, 08:21 AM
Am I the only one that thought Abomination was beaten too easily?
Also, cus Hulk defeated Tim Roth, is Hulk a sympathetic monster?
bigred760
06-16-2008, 08:32 AM
Am I the only one that thought Abomination was beaten too easily?
Yeah, probably. ;)
I thought it was a kickass fight sequence.
Also, cus Hulk defeated Tim Roth, is Hulk a sympathetic monster?
To a few, maybe. Will have to wait til the sequel.
Jig Saw 123
06-16-2008, 08:42 AM
This film really surprised me, I went in with low expectations but came out with a big smile on my face. The action, acting, and story line were all better than Ang Lee's. And the way Marvel is perfectly setting up an Avengers movie is fucking brilliant. I actually enjoyed this more than Iron Man, since it seemed to have more fascinating characters and more action. And the introduction to The Leader was played out very smart.
8/10
MISFITS_Fiend
06-16-2008, 09:41 AM
3/5
One thing that I missed, or maybe it was just glossed over, why was Tylers character called Betty when her name was Elizabeth?
Uh, Betty is short for Elizabeth.
jdparker
06-16-2008, 03:28 PM
Uh, Betty is short for Elizabeth.
Hmmm... You know I've NEVER heard that before. Excuse my ignorance please.
X-Nightcrawler
06-16-2008, 10:21 PM
Hmmm... You know I've NEVER heard that before. Excuse my ignorance please.Elizabeth, Beth, Betty.
Anyway, this movie was pretty lame. For a Hulk movie, it was incredibly lifeless with the exception of the campus scene, which rocked. Edward Norton is always great, but his character was incredibly uninteresting (especially in comparison to Bana's Ban-uh, . . . Bana's Bruce). And the villain was even worse.
I did like General Ross. And Liv Tyler, though terrible in her performance, was gorgeous. Hulk himself was pretty cool in a couple of scenes. I'm pissed there was only one half-clear transformation. Hulk-out is always the best part, why the hell did they keep them in the dark most of the time! Gawd.
5/10.
X-Nightcrawler
06-17-2008, 03:06 AM
Well, we've all seen the Hulk-Out many times before, so I guess they were trying to put a unique spin on it and take a "less is more" approach. Plus, it's probably no coincidence that the clearest transformation (during the lab scene) was also the fakest looking.Their fuck-up in not making better effects (though I liked the effects fine).
A clear, awesome hulk-out like the house one in Lee's film is always the highlight of any Hulk title, movie, cartoon or comic.
Ender
06-17-2008, 03:09 AM
Well, we've all seen the Hulk-Out many times before, so I guess they were trying to put a unique spin on it and take a "less is more" approach. Plus, it's probably no coincidence that the clearest transformation (during the lab scene) was also the fakest looking.
Ender
06-17-2008, 03:13 AM
Uh, did you somehow quote my post before it was posted? That some kind of timebending Mentat shit you got going there or what? ;)
Anyway, the lab scene was a full-on transformation, plus a reverse transformation. As I said before, the Hulk didn't look real, but let's face it, that was pretty much a lost cause from the begining.
X-Nightcrawler
06-17-2008, 03:33 AM
Uh, did you somehow quote my post before it was posted? That some kind of timebending Mentat shit you got going there or what? ;)
Anyway, the lab scene was a full-on transformation, plus a reverse transformation. As I said before, the Hulk didn't look real, but let's face it, that was pretty much a lost cause from the begining.I can do all!
And yes, the lab scene was the one I meant. It's not as clear as I would've wished, but it's still the only decent one. I just wish out of four transformations, at least two were clear.
AndrewDB
06-17-2008, 03:55 AM
Spoiler!!!
At the end of the movie when Norton was meditating and opened his green eyes ..did he get control of the Hulk? does that mean that the Hulk in the next film will be controlled by Banner?
Probably.
Shockwave
06-17-2008, 07:51 AM
Probably.
Yeah, it seems at the end of the movie he can at least "direct his anger" when he turns into the Hulk.
xseanymacx
06-17-2008, 08:35 AM
8/10. I found it just as entertaining as Iron Man and actually liked the story and characters better.
spacemonkey
06-17-2008, 10:38 AM
Wow, The Incredible Hulk blew me away!
I went in with low expectations, expecting maybe a faster paced film, with cheap CGI.
Boy was I wrong! The CGI animation was top notch! The action sequences were actually GREAT! That scene in the university campus....Wow! That thing with the soundwaves...holy shit, awesome stuff.
They needed something like that for Spidey 3 because thats actually what Venoms weakness is all about!
Norton was great, The Hulk looked fantastic! Way better then the first one. Also the chemistry between NOrton and Tyler felt real, not like the cold relationship we got in the first film. This one had some emotion and warmth to it.
And the fight between the Hulk and Abomination...freaking epic! People where clapping in the theater. Kind of felt like I was watching Freddy vs. Jason, where people were clapping and rooting for their favorite one. Only on this one people were obviously rooting for The Hulk!
How awesome was it when the hulk used his clap? How awesome was it when he says "Hulk....Smash!" I mean on this movie the Hulk truly is the raging Hulk weve always loved from the comics, It was rage gone crazy and out of control! I loved it.
I salute Leterrier, the guy really did a one up from his last film which shall remain unamed on this post. But with this one, the guy really truly completely redeemed himself!
Nothing bad to say about this movie. Just go see it! This is the movie of the summer!
Shockwave
06-17-2008, 10:45 AM
I love how his eyes glow green in the dark.:cool:
This summer has already raped last year.
Epic awesome stuff.
CyclicNightmare
06-17-2008, 10:51 AM
I don't understand why everyone loves this so much. The pacing is ridiculous and it's clearly been cut to shit. It reminds me of the theatrical version of Daredevil, incomplete. Hopefully when the DVD comes out, the movie will be a lot fuller. As it stands now, it's like a shell.
Don't get me wrong, I liked it. But it wasn't great. It feels like it was kneecapped in editing.
crodger
06-17-2008, 12:29 PM
Pretty impressive considering they had to wipe the sordid memory of the first one from my mind. Norton was great, as was the supporting cast. The action was engaging and exciting, the end fight was kickass (that was one of my few problems with Iron Man - the last fight was too short) and it was just great fun. I also appreciated Letterier's willingness to let us see the action. Like Favreau, he didn't go for MTV visuals, but rather a more traditional action style. Some of the scenes were a bit cheesy, and some of the characters had little or no development (Betty's psychiatrist friend, the doctor and the restaurant owner - they might be familiar to the comic fans but not to me). Fun times though.
3.5/5
TBagNUrMom
06-17-2008, 01:42 PM
I like the idea of The Leader AND Doc Samson. And why does Doc Samson have to be a villian? He wasn't one in the comics. Anyone?
TBagNUrMom
06-17-2008, 01:53 PM
Wow, The Incredible Hulk blew me away!
I went in with low expectations, expecting maybe a faster paced film, with cheap CGI.
Boy was I wrong! The CGI animation was top notch! The action sequences were actually GREAT! That scene in the university campus....Wow! That thing with the soundwaves...holy shit, awesome stuff.
They needed something like that for Spidey 3 because thats actually what Venoms weakness is all about!
Norton was great, The Hulk looked fantastic! Way better then the first one. Also the chemistry between NOrton and Tyler felt real, not like the cold relationship we got in the first film. This one had some emotion and warmth to it.
And the fight between the Hulk and Abomination...freaking epic! People where clapping in the theater. Kind of felt like I was watching Freddy vs. Jason, where people were clapping and rooting for their favorite one. Only on this one people were obviously rooting for The Hulk!
How awesome was it when the hulk used his clap? How awesome was it when he says "Hulk....Smash!" I mean on this movie the Hulk truly is the raging Hulk weve always loved from the comics, It was rage gone crazy and out of control! I loved it.
I salute Leterrier, the guy really did a one up from his last film which shall remain unamed on this post. But with this one, the guy really truly completely redeemed himself!
Nothing bad to say about this movie. Just go see it! This is the movie of the summer!
Marvel is doing a great job in general setting up the Avengers. If they stay true to form with continuity, they'll have a Bruce Banner cameo in either Thor or Captain America for 2010.
TBagNUrMom
06-17-2008, 01:54 PM
Probably.
I was thinking the same thing when I saw the end. And if you think about it, how else would he able to join the Avengers if he didn't have control.
jdparker
06-17-2008, 02:03 PM
I don't understand why everyone loves this so much. The pacing is ridiculous and it's clearly been cut to shit. It reminds me of the theatrical version of Daredevil, incomplete. Hopefully when the DVD comes out, the movie will be a lot fuller. As it stands now, it's like a shell.
Don't get me wrong, I liked it. But it wasn't great. It feels like it was kneecapped in editing.
Totally agree with you.
PACING - that's the word I've been searching for to describe the problem with this movie! Thank you.
I'd like to see the cut that Norton wanted - I mean American History X is (apparently) his cut of that flick - and that shit rules.
spacemonkey
06-17-2008, 04:17 PM
Marvel is doing a great job in general setting up the Avengers. If they stay true to form with continuity, they'll have a Bruce Banner cameo in either Thor or Captain America for 2010.
Thats fine having all these cameos, it kind of connects all these films. But the big question remains: will all the actors return for these roles in the proposed Avengers film in 2011?
Cop No. 633
06-17-2008, 04:29 PM
I think you had the same reaction I did SpaceMonkey. This film was just a great fun time. That's exactly how I took it... It wasn't overly moronic like a Michael Bay film and it wasn't too serious like Ang Lee's movie. It was a great balance.
Oh, man, the thunderous applause throughout the fight was great in my theater as well. Everybody was really into it by the end... I was shocked. I didn't even hear anything like that for Iron Man when I saw it.
I think the Hulk just speaks to people on a primal level. I mean, there were as many grown men as there were kids when I saw the movie. It was very cool.
jbar1026
06-17-2008, 05:01 PM
3/5
Downey Jr. showing up --- sure that was cool or whatever... All that cameo told me was that another Marvel cash-grab is coming up in a couple summers. I think it would of been a cool thing to put after the credits...
i hate when they put a scene in after the credits. first if you dont know its there you miss out. and secound almost every time i wait for it the theater employees turn the damn lights on and start cleaning around me. during the potc: awe they actually cut the sound off.
MisterTwister
06-17-2008, 09:13 PM
Wow, The Incredible Hulk blew me away!
I went in with low expectations, expecting maybe a faster paced film, with cheap CGI.
Boy was I wrong! The CGI animation was top notch! The action sequences were actually GREAT! That scene in the university campus....Wow! That thing with the soundwaves...holy shit, awesome stuff.
They needed something like that for Spidey 3 because thats actually what Venoms weakness is all about!
Norton was great, The Hulk looked fantastic! Way better then the first one. Also the chemistry between NOrton and Tyler felt real, not like the cold relationship we got in the first film. This one had some emotion and warmth to it.
And the fight between the Hulk and Abomination...freaking epic! People where clapping in the theater. Kind of felt like I was watching Freddy vs. Jason, where people were clapping and rooting for their favorite one. Only on this one people were obviously rooting for The Hulk!
How awesome was it when the hulk used his clap? How awesome was it when he says "Hulk....Smash!" I mean on this movie the Hulk truly is the raging Hulk weve always loved from the comics, It was rage gone crazy and out of control! I loved it.
I salute Leterrier, the guy really did a one up from his last film which shall remain unamed on this post. But with this one, the guy really truly completely redeemed himself!
Nothing bad to say about this movie. Just go see it! This is the movie of the summer!
Great review, enjoyed it as much as you did. Blows Ang Lee's film out of the water.
By his last film, do you mean Transporter 2 or Unleashed. Both were released in 2005. I can understand if it is Transporter 2, even though I enjoyed it but Unleashed kicked a whole lot of ass. That's the film that made me believe he was the man for the job.
He better direct Incredible Hulk 2.
CreeperBEATNGU
06-17-2008, 10:04 PM
Human element isn't as involving as Ang Lee's movie, but it isn't as lacking as I was worried it'd be, and General Ross was a little too much of an asshole up until the last 15 minutes, but the cast was good, the visuals are great, it's funny without being hokey and stupid unlike other comic book movies (Spider Man), and it's definitely a bigger adrenaline rush than Ang's movie (which I loved).
There are atleast two or three moments that had me wanting to jump out of the chair and shout at the screen "COME HULK! GET UP!" and "HULK...SMASH!" as the entire audience bursts out cheering is what great theatrical experiences are all about.
I'm not sure if it's quite as good as Iron Man (although it was a far more satisfying finale) or the original, very underrated HULK film, but it gave me everything that I wanted without most of the flaws I was worried about.
Preston_79
06-17-2008, 11:50 PM
I read somewhere that the dvd will have an additional 70 minutes. watching the movie after the barrage of trailers it was easy to notice scenes were missing. There was a snow scene, the talk between Banner and the shrink, and Roth caught from a different angle after the Hulk boots him. There was probably an additional scene between Banner and that south American hottie from the bottling factory.
The pacing may have been off a little, but FUCK having an additional 70 minutes of no action. I don't care if a bunch of suits had the finale say, the theatrical version kicked ass. Edward Norton's a great actor, but I want Hulk. I can almost guarantee I'd be bored if I had to watch 70 more minutes of Norton talking about controlling his rage.
jdparker
06-18-2008, 12:24 PM
The pacing may have been off a little, but FUCK having an additional 70 minutes of no action. I don't care if a bunch of suits had the finale say, the theatrical version kicked ass. Edward Norton's a great actor, but I want Hulk. I can almost guarantee I'd be bored if I had to watch 70 more minutes of Norton talking about controlling his rage.
I'm pretty excited for that actually. I hope it comes out. I usually hate long movies but this was one that I felt should of been longer - that way you get the bad ass action and some more exploration into the psychology of the Hulk.
Bourne101
06-18-2008, 12:25 PM
Man, I have to see this movie. All these good to great reviews are getting me pretty excited.
a7xfan
06-18-2008, 12:44 PM
Man, I have to see this movie. All these good to great reviews are getting me pretty excited.
don't get too excited, its insanely overrated
i expected ALOT more than i got, i guess all the early reviews made me excited for it, and well.........it didnt really deliver
bettr than ang lee's hulk, but i was still a bit dissapointed
7/10
Bourne101
06-18-2008, 12:46 PM
I'll keep that in mind.
Preston_79
06-18-2008, 01:23 PM
I'm pretty excited for that actually. I hope it comes out. I usually hate long movies but this was one that I felt should of been longer - that way you get the bad ass action and some more exploration into the psychology of the Hulk.
I feel you. I'll take some more, just not 70 minutes. Even the director said they left the scenes out for a reason. I'd be more for it if the dvd edition was Norton's cut, but I don't think it is. It's just an extended edition.
Shockwave
06-18-2008, 02:17 PM
The only scene i really want to see is the therapy scene
... and ANYTHING with they have with Time Roth. I thought he stole nearly every scene he was in.:cool:
Ender
06-18-2008, 04:04 PM
Although there are very few superhero properties that have yet to make it to the silver screen (Marvel ones anyway; DC's film department is apparently very busy producing not a whole lot of anything), I hope that whoever pens future ones pay close attention to THE INCREDIBLE HULK and learns a very important lesson:
WE DO NOT NEED HALF OF THE MOVIE TAKEN UP WITH AN ORIGIN STORY.
When we pay ten bucks to see the Hulk, we wanna see the damn Hulk. It's not neccesary to explain the concept in-depth, we already know it when we sit down in the theatre; he gets mad, he gets big, and then he smashes things. THE INCREDIBLE HULK tells us the whole thing during the opening credits, then fleshes it out a bit more with one expositive dialogue scene later. The origin is handled in about ten minutes total, and the rest of the movie is free to give us what we paid to see; the goddamned Hulk, plus Banner on the run and Liv Tyler's entrancing eyes.
Look at Tim Burton's first BATMAN as well. He's already Batman at the beginning of the movie, he's already lurking around wailing on bad guys, and they're already scared of him. The little neccesary background is provided for us later, as briefly as possible. Of course, then there's BATMAN BEGINS, but by that time there had already been a score of mainstream Batman movies, so people had had their fix an extended origin was more welcome.
This HULK gets the formula right, so I hope other filmmakers were taking notes.
a7xfan
06-18-2008, 04:53 PM
Although there are very few superhero properties that have yet to make it to the silver screen (Marvel ones anyway; DC's film department is apparently very busy producing not a whole lot of anything), I hope that whoever pens future ones pay close attention to THE INCREDIBLE HULK and learns a very important lesson:
WE DO NOT NEED HALF OF THE MOVIE TAKEN UP WITH AN ORIGIN STORY.
When we pay ten bucks to see the Hulk, we wanna see the damn Hulk. It's not neccesary to explain the concept in-depth, we already know it when we sit down in the theatre; he gets mad, he gets big, and then he smashes things. THE INCREDIBLE HULK tells us the whole thing during the opening credits, then fleshes it out a bit more with one expositive dialogue scene later. The origin is handled in about ten minutes total, and the rest of the movie is free to give us what we paid to see; the goddamned Hulk, plus Banner on the run and Liv Tyler's entrancing eyes.
Look at Tim Burton's first BATMAN as well. He's already Batman at the beginning of the movie, he's already lurking around wailing on bad guys, and they're already scared of him. The little neccesary background is provided for us later, as briefly as possible. Of course, then there's BATMAN BEGINS, but by that time there had already been a score of mainstream Batman movies, so people had had their fix an extended origin was more welcome.
This HULK gets the formula right, so I hope other filmmakers were taking notes.
i can't agree with ya there man. i thought it was very bland.
SPOILERS***********POSSIBLE
we only got 2 decent action scenes in the whole 1h45m movie, and for a hulk film thats pretty bad. plus i was expecting the final fight to be on for like 25 mins, as was strongly rumoured. abomination was defeated so pathetically, i couldn't belive my eyes.
there just wasn't enough 'hulk smash'
SPOILERS******************
im not saying it was a boring film, it was well acted (excluding tyler) but i dont wanna go in a hulk film and have 70% talking, i wana see the hulk at least 50% of the time, even if its crappily acted and terrible scripted, if they got the hulk smashing shit up, im in the seat.
this sounds strong, but i think they have now FAILED at two attempts of a hulk film.
sadly there will never be another take on it, only sequels.
i just hope that the sequels are more action based.
KCJ506
06-18-2008, 06:06 PM
Just spit out the 2003 version like a bad taste in your mouth. This movie kicked all sorts of ass! I enjoyed this better than Iron Man.
The cast is a lot better this time around. Edward Norton is far more convincing as Bruce Banner than Eric Bana was. Liv Tyler does a good job as Betty, Bruce's girlfriend, though I do like Jennifer Connelly a bit more. The supporting cast is also great, and they all deserve to at least be nominated for some awards. My favorite performance is tied between Norton and Tim Roth.
The fight between The Hulk and Abomination BETTER be nominated for Best Fight for the MTV Movie Awards next year.
Dark_Star
06-18-2008, 07:08 PM
I'm not among the many who like to throw away Ang Lee's "Hulk". Let's say it's a film about the Hulk for those who know nothing about the Hulk, but are still interested in comics and action films. I liked the ideas, the way it was shot, with the comic book cell sequences and it was more introspective than most superhero films, and while I agree that what we go to see superhero movies for is not for talk talk talk, but for BANG BOOM SMASH SWOOSH...I have to say, that for what they did with it, they did a good job.
I may be off when I make this accusation, but take a look at "Hulk", and then take a look at "Spider-Man 2". While Spider-Man 2 was far superior I believe that they had the same idea going on, with a more character study aproach that made the action scenes more worth watching because you felt like you were in there with the characters.
That being said, I do agree on the fact that "Hulk" wasn't what it could've been and had me bored through a few parts.
It had an interesting aproach to the whole goings on is all I'm saying.
I'm going to go see "The Incredible Hulk" on Saturday.
Rick-James
06-19-2008, 04:21 AM
Far better than Ang Lee's fucking bullshit movie. It was also great seeing Tim Roth being a badass again.
7/10
dellamorte dellamore
06-19-2008, 12:42 PM
The first time i watched this , i missed all the trailers because of a slow as hell counterperson , the surround sound cut out 30 seconds in ( nobody seemed to notice the dummies ) , people were talking in front of me ( that's odd , that was one of the people that didn't notice no surround sound , and all manner of annoyances were popping up . I missed about 10 minutes of it because i had to complain twice about the sound before something was done .
My experience was less than satisfactory to say the least , that's why i saw Ironman after to make up for my disappointment . I seriously think that all the bad things that happened the first time i saw it prevented me from fully enjoying it , because i saw it again yesterday and it was a whole new experience for me , this film moved up about 10 notches when i saw it the way it was meant to be seen with minimal fuss .
It moves at a brisk pace , both in the narrative sense and the amount of action scenes . Can i go back on my word now and say The Incredible Hulk deserves that moniker , there is no false advertising there . One wild comic book ride from start to finish . The damn thing works , it's highly entertaining , and the problems i had with it before weren't present this time around .
Norton is terrific as Banner , Roth is appropriately menacing and convincing ( still just a bit underutilized ) , Hurt is great , Tyler makes an effective if somewhat unconvincing cellular biologist girlfriend to Banner , i have no problem with the casting whatsoever now .
The action scenes are some of the best set pieces iv'e seen in a awhile . It's weird , because after i saw IM , i didn't think Hulk's action scenes could excite as much or maybe even more , well they do . This is everything a Hulk film should be , loud , brash , a bull in a china shop , with great performances by the cast and a compelling narrative .
What a difference a movie theater and environment makes , i now fully recommend this film to anyone looking for a great action film .
Damn , i'm having a difficult time finding a film i don't like ( okay Indy 4 ) this spring / summer season , what the heck is going on here . Out of all the films that were to be released during this time , i never thought Indy 4 would be the one , solitary letdown . So far IM , Happening and Hulk have been more than enjoyable .
Hulk is another film that i bestow upon the DD Golden Seal of approval . It's money well worth spent . You'll want to see it multiple times in the theater .
miguel_montes
06-19-2008, 02:27 PM
It was also great seeing Tim Roth being a badass again.
God, yeah! He always portrays villains perfectly!!
I know I'm virtually alone on this, but his "Thade" character in "Planet Of The Apes", to me, is one of the most scary villains EVER!
About the movie: loved it!! Like someone wrote on the web: "A lot of things could have gone wrong in "The Incredible Hulk", but fortunately, none of them did."
8/10
Shockwave
06-19-2008, 06:18 PM
God, yeah! He always portrays villains perfectly!!
I know I'm virtually alone on this, but his "Thade" character in "Planet Of The Apes", to me, is one of the most scary villains EVER!
I didnt care for the Apes remake at all, but his performance was freaking AWESOME. I loved that character.
MojoDrag-on
06-19-2008, 07:44 PM
I actually disliked the film just like I did the first. Perhaps it was because I'm not a hulk fan at all,but I felt the first one had things that the second one needed,and vice versa.
jdparker
06-19-2008, 10:47 PM
I feel you. I'll take some more, just not 70 minutes. Even the director said they left the scenes out for a reason. I'd be more for it if the dvd edition was Norton's cut, but I don't think it is. It's just an extended edition.
Haha I'd love to see that DVD though "The Incredible Hulk: The Norton's Cut." It'd be especially sweet if he never even turned into the Hulk - and the whole time he just uses raw acting ability to convince us he's The Hulk... Hey, I'd buy it.
You're right though: 70 mins is a bit much - but something around 135 mins to 150 mins would be nice I think.
Craig M.D.
06-19-2008, 11:05 PM
Went to see this yesterday with a buddy of mine and we both thought it was a lot of fun. The fight at the end was pretty cool. And I think "Mr.Blue" is being set up as the old Hulk villain "The Leader", but that's just a guess.
If Thor, Captain America and the Avengers movies are all as good as Incredible Hulk and Iron Man have been I'd be very happy.
Now if only Warner Brothers can get their act together and make some good superhero movies (Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, JLA).
JoeChar4321
06-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Spoiler!!!
At the end of the movie when Norton was meditating and opened his green eyes ..did he get control of the Hulk? does that mean that the Hulk in the next film will be controlled by Banner?
I wonder if this gives Marvel an out? If Norton doesn't want to re-sign for a sequel or an Avengers movie, could they go with a "full time" Hulk? No need for Bruce Banner in that scenario. It might work for an Avengers film but I feel you definitely need Banner's humanity and the duel nature angst for any sequels.
Wow, The Incredible Hulk blew me away!
I went in with low expectations, expecting maybe a faster paced film, with cheap CGI.
Boy was I wrong! The CGI animation was top notch! The action sequences were actually GREAT! That scene in the university campus....Wow! That thing with the soundwaves...holy shit, awesome stuff.
They needed something like that for Spidey 3 because thats actually what Venoms weakness is all about!
Norton was great, The Hulk looked fantastic! Way better then the first one. Also the chemistry between NOrton and Tyler felt real, not like the cold relationship we got in the first film. This one had some emotion and warmth to it.
And the fight between the Hulk and Abomination...freaking epic! People where clapping in the theater. Kind of felt like I was watching Freddy vs. Jason, where people were clapping and rooting for their favorite one. Only on this one people were obviously rooting for The Hulk!
How awesome was it when the hulk used his clap? How awesome was it when he says "Hulk....Smash!" I mean on this movie the Hulk truly is the raging Hulk weve always loved from the comics, It was rage gone crazy and out of control! I loved it.
I salute Leterrier, the guy really did a one up from his last film which shall remain unamed on this post. But with this one, the guy really truly completely redeemed himself!
Nothing bad to say about this movie. Just go see it! This is the movie of the summer!
QFT- After seeing this movie yet again, I enjoyed it even more the second time through. My mind wasn't racing and I wasn't analyzing everything. I just sat back and let the story and the action flow.
Smiert Spionam
06-21-2008, 12:36 AM
I agree with most the postive reviews here. Geniunely enjoyed the flick from beginning to end. Was presently suprised at how much screentime Tim Roth (one of my fav actors, btw) clocked in before turning into the Abomination. Ed Norton was fantastic. My problem with Eric Bana in Hulk ('03) was that at no point during the film did I ever look at him and see Bruce Banner. This was far from the case with Norton. Bonus points for the excellent usage of The Lonely Man theme. Admittedly, the FX could have used a little work, but being that this film early on in production was planned to be STDVD release, I can definitely accept the rushed job due to circumstances....
7.5/10
Question, though.....
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6895/shotintrailerdeletedscehd3.jpg
What the fuck happened to THIS scene? I remember reading a script review a while back that mentioned.........
****************POSSIBLE SPOILERS****************
....Banner would be seen wandering the arctic before dropping to his knees, pulling out a gun, and attempting suicide, but right before the bullet hit, he would Hulk out.
****************END SPOILERS****************
This could have been an amazing opening scene before the credits. Ahh well....
kobe8byrant
06-21-2008, 08:34 AM
Sorry guys, don't mean to spoil the mood but I didn't get it. I think one of the Schmoes had it spot on when he said that Lee's Hulk had what this movie was lacking and vice versa. I still don't think we have had a good HULK movie in this one. I found the performances rather bland (Roth was bad, not badass) and thought that Nick Nolte had more of an agenda than Roth did in the original Hulk, chemistry between Tyler and Hulk almost nonexistent (the joke after they exited the taxi had me cringing rather than laughing) but the action sequences made up for it, I suppose.
3.5/5
Bourne101
06-21-2008, 03:30 PM
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The Incredible Hulk - 8/10
Went into this not really expecting too much. The reviews had been good, but I am not a huge Hulk fan, so I didn't really get my hopes up. Well, let's just say that The Incredible Hulk kicks the shit out of Ang Lee's version. We all know how the Hulk came to be the Hulk, so instead of focusing on that, they focus on the character once the problem has been established for a little while. This is the right approach to this film, unlike Lee's film which took ages to get going. It's action packed, and the action is great. Norton is great and Tyler I found to be better than Connelly in Lee's version. I mean, there really is no comparison between the two films. This is the Hulk, this is the version that everyone has been waiting for. The action packed, well-written, occasionally emotional, well-acted and badass version that just didn't show up when Lee was behind the camera. The story is very compelling and my eyes were glued to the screen for the entire runtime. Tim Roth was great, and although he doesn't get loads of screen time, he gets enough and does a great job, and has some total badass moments. This is coming from someone who is not a huge fan of the Hulk, but knows the origins, knows the character, and knows that this is the version we've all been waiting for. Can't wait for another one.
CyclicNightmare
06-21-2008, 05:42 PM
I feel like I've taken crazy pills. How can everyone prefer the studio version? Cut down to just the key action scenes? Norton and Letterier didn't prefer this cut. I don't know why you all do. Just plays into the stereotype of studio heads feeding the masses what they think they wanna see. And everyone seems to have eaten it up.
This is not a complete movie. It never feels like it. You couldn't tell that it never really establishes a natural flow or pace?
I don't see how people don't see all the holes.
Bourne101
06-21-2008, 06:07 PM
Prefer this cut over Lee's version, or over the version that was cut to this version? If the latter, well, we haven't seen it so there is no way to know.
truth_be_told
06-21-2008, 07:12 PM
Precisely. I'm eager to see the full director's cut of the film, but that doesn't mean I can't sit back and enjoy a film as it's presented. Maybe all I needed was a fun, quick summer action film and it delivered. Do I need Edward Norton to tell me what to prefer? Nope.
The film had excellent acting, action, and special effects (which I was surprised by; the trailers made it look pretty weak). Overall, one of the finer comic book movies in a little while.
8/10
Smiert Spionam
06-21-2008, 07:30 PM
I feel like I've taken crazy pills. How can everyone prefer the studio version? Cut down to just the key action scenes? Norton and Letterier didn't prefer this cut. I don't know why you all do. Just plays into the stereotype of studio heads feeding the masses what they think they wanna see. And everyone seems to have eaten it up.
This is not a complete movie. It never feels like it. You couldn't tell that it never really establishes a natural flow or pace?
I don't see how people don't see all the holes.
Ummmm.......how the fuck can we not prefer this film over a supposed version of it that most of us never even knew existed and all of us have NEVER EVEN SEEN IT BEFORE?
That's like me asking somebody to make me a sandwich, and they make me a peanut butter one, so I eat it and go, "Wow, that's good," and then some guy chimes in and goes, "Man, I can't believe that you prefer that over a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?"
It's easy. 1. This was still a good sandwich and 2. I didn't know there was even the possibility of a PB&J....I just enjoyed the fucking sandwich. :D
Preston_79
06-21-2008, 08:00 PM
I feel like I've taken crazy pills. How can everyone prefer the studio version? Cut down to just the key action scenes? Norton and Letterer didn't prefer this cut. I don't know why you all do. Just plays into the stereotype of studio heads feeding the masses what they think they wanna see. And everyone seems to have eaten it up.
This is not a complete movie. It never feels like it. You couldn't tell that it never really establishes a natural flow or pace?
I don't see how people don't see all the holes.
I read that Letterer said the 70 minutes were cut for a reason, because they were bad. Somebody back me up here if you read the same. From what I understand Letterer had his version, and Norton had his, neither of which we saw on the big screen. SO, the 70 additional minutes that will be included on the dvd is not Letterer version if what I read is true, maybe it's Norton's.
The studio heads are intelligent people, they're business people. They don't intentionally try to give you the shittiest version of the film "Hello McFly" They want the version that will appeal to the most people. Obviously they are hit and miss, but for fucks sake their job is to make the most money for the studio.
JoeChar4321
06-22-2008, 11:00 PM
I read that Letterer said the 70 minutes were cut for a reason, because they were bad. Somebody back me up here if you read the same. From what I understand Letterer had his version, and Norton had his, neither of which we saw on the big screen. SO, the 70 additional minutes that will be included on the dvd is not Letterer version if what I read is true, maybe it's Norton's.
The studio heads are intelligent people, they're business people. They don't intentionally try to give you the shittiest version of the film "Hello McFly" They want the version that will appeal to the most people. Obviously they are hit and miss, but for fucks sake their job is to make the most money for the studio.
It's my understanding that LL had pieced together a cut of the film where EVERYTHING he shot was included. He called it the "suicide cut" of the film because you wanted to kill yourself after you saw it. The 70 minutes cut was from that bloated first cut. It was always meant to be cut way down. Most of those 70 minutes were tossed for good.
The difference was actually between a cut of the film that was about 25 minutes longer than the theatrical release. Some have called this the "Norton Cut" of the movie. It's not really been confirmed but we know certain scenes are missing. The head of Marvel Studios said that there will be no director's cut or Norton Cut released but there will be extensive deleted scenes on the DVD. The theatrical cut of the film is the only one you will see. Since I thoroughly enjoyed that version, that's fine with me. I can check out the suicide arctic scene and others on the deleted scenes bonus features. I don't need them inserted in to the film.
CyclicNightmare
06-23-2008, 01:11 AM
OK, "prefer" was a bad word choice on my part. There's obviously no alternative to compare it to yet. And yeah, for all we know, everything that got cut might be shitty and boring.
My point is, that the version we got feels incomplete and rushed to me. You can really feel the cuts, which leads me to believe an extended version will be a lot more fleshed out and organic. Obviously we should all reserve judgement when it comes to making comparisons. But I still don't know how people can see this as anything but a hurried, bare bones effort.
project 86
06-23-2008, 01:38 AM
movie was great but only problem i saw was i never felt that banner got o the point where he would never get the cure or to the point where he had given up hope and wanted to be alone forever maybe they should of left suicide scene
Bonham
06-23-2008, 10:06 AM
I may be overthinking this, but regarding the lightening scene; does anyone think they're setting up Thor as the main adversary to the Hulk in the Avengers movie? Maybe Thor noticed another "god-like" being and decides to test the waters and find his weakness.
Maybe I'm just trying to find another cool cameo though...
CuatroDiablos
06-23-2008, 05:15 PM
Hey maybe...it suddenly started raining out of nowhere , probably Thor was protecting the hulk since the search for him was cancelled due to the thunderstorm.
Grand_Marquis
06-23-2008, 05:36 PM
Haha, yeah I noticed the insta-rain too. Reminded me of that scene from Back to the Future 2. :D
Horrible hack job though. Plus there was that strangely cut scene with the random black guy while Abomination was going apeshit. Actually...there were a lot of hacked-up scenes in this film. Still an awesome film, but it really makes me wonder what we're missing..
I loved how they set up the Leader as a villain in possibly a sequel or the Avengers movie. That was totally cool.
As for someone's question about the last scene with Banner, where he intentionally Hulks out – all it means is that now he's trying to control it instead of running away from it. That's all. It's a conclusion to his character arc for that film's story and really no big deal. In the comics, Banner has never, ever, ever gotten full control (or even partial control, really) of the Hulk. A movie where he does this would be just as stupid as a comic where he does this.
Cop No. 633
06-23-2008, 06:06 PM
Ummmm.......how the fuck can we not prefer this film over a supposed version of it that most of us never even knew existed and all of us have NEVER EVEN SEEN IT BEFORE?
That's like me asking somebody to make me a sandwich, and they make me a peanut butter one, so I eat it and go, "Wow, that's good," and then some guy chimes in and goes, "Man, I can't believe that you prefer that over a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?"
It's easy. 1. This was still a good sandwich and 2. I didn't know there was even the possibility of a PB&J....I just enjoyed the fucking sandwich. :D
Amen!
JoeChar4321
06-24-2008, 12:03 AM
Hey maybe...it suddenly started raining out of nowhere
Haha, yeah I noticed the insta-rain too. Reminded me of that scene from Back to the Future 2. :D
Horrible hack job though.
With so much action and pivotal scenes, it's easy to see why people think it was instant rain. You guys weren't paying attention. I've seen the movie a few times and I've noticed new things every time. When Bruce and Betty are talking as he notices the army surveillance, storm clouds are definitely seen rolling in. Also, when Bruce is trapped on the walkway, you clearly see the storm clouds with lightning in the sky. As a viewer, you're fixated on the characters and that's the way it should be but there's no continuity errors here.
bigred760
06-24-2008, 03:19 AM
Hey maybe...it suddenly started raining out of nowhere , probably Thor was protecting the hulk since the search for him was cancelled due to the thunderstorm.
Haha, yeah I noticed the insta-rain too. Reminded me of that scene from Back to the Future 2. :D
Apparently you guys have not spent a whole lot of time in Virginia.
meccajay
06-24-2008, 11:59 AM
Plus there was that strangely cut scene with the random black guy while Abomination was going apeshit.
Yeah I agree, the way they cut it looked weird.. It looked like they were trying to establish the Canadian locale to be believable as Harlem, and they'd cut too many other scenes(little boy with his mom, next to cop). BTW the random guy you're reffering to is...
This guy:
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/11/03/PH2005110300516.jpg
Ever watch The Wire? Anyway, his charachter Omar.. Greatest TV villain ever!
Michael K. Williams
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0931324/
Mr.HyDe807
06-24-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm gonna check this out with my friend in a bit!
I wasn't too fond of The Hulk, maybe this will better!
JoeCool
06-25-2008, 02:14 PM
this was a good movie,
but
with this movie and Iron man
i have officially begun to shit my pants for the Avengers
Spoilers
when Stark came into the bar i couldnt stop smiling haha
its going to be a great couple of years
bigred760
06-25-2008, 08:22 PM
I forgot about the Stark cameo after a while. I was that into the movie and what was going on. I was ready to take off when the extra scene popped up with the general in the bar. I didn't realize it was Stark until they showed his face.
Spidey
06-26-2008, 04:46 AM
A fun movie 7/10.
Still liked Iron Man a little bit better.
There's isn't much story in this movie, it's just basically Bruce Banner being on the run all the time. But that's allright because this kind of movie doesn't need a complicated plot, it just needs a lot of action, and that's exactly what we got. Although the middle part seemed to drag a little.
Norton and Tyler (and her collagen lips) were very good, but Tim Roth was excellent. I loved when he went all supersoldier on Hulk's ass.
I really appreciate all the little nods only real Hulk fans would understand. If you've never read the comic then you've never heard of The Leader and won't understand a certain scene.
The final scene was the best action scene of this year. I just didn't want it to end. The Abomination kicked ass.
Marvel is sitting on a goldmine with all their characters they have ever created and they will be dominating the box office for a long time.
Question though, in The Arrow's review he says the movie hints at Daredevil, during which scene was that ?
NathanRomano
06-26-2008, 11:17 AM
Do you think we'll get and Incredible Hulk 2?
muttly69
06-26-2008, 11:24 AM
No, strait to the avenger's. They dont want the Hulk to get old. There is only so much "hulk smash" people could take.
LordSimen
06-27-2008, 08:22 PM
Really fun movie. I had a great time. 8/10
No, strait to the avenger's. They dont want the Hulk to get old. There is only so much "hulk smash" people could take.
***SPOILERS BELOW***
Then why set up The Leader?
Mr.HyDe807
06-27-2008, 08:27 PM
I saw this, and despite the theater i went to sucking balls (audio going in and out), i thought it was good flick, a little better (by not much) then Ang Lee's Hulk.
7.5/10
john_rambo
06-28-2008, 01:16 PM
This movie was highly badass. 5,578,345 times better than Ang Lees hulk (thats an accurate number too) I recommend it to anyone.
8.5/10
Danger^Cart
06-30-2008, 12:01 PM
4/10
Guess I saw a different movie. Tim Roth was really the only good thing about this.
muttly69
06-30-2008, 12:24 PM
Really fun movie. I had a great time. 8/10
***SPOILERS BELOW***
Then why set up The Leader?
realy to get the comic fans who caught it a jolly.:)
spacemonkey
06-30-2008, 05:06 PM
Saw it again last night...I have a question! When Mr. Blue gets some blood or whatever it is on his head and it starts to grow and pulsate likek that...
Could he actually be transforming into THe Leader! I know the leader has a huge head and thats the first thing I thought when I saw that scene! Just wondering what you guys think cause I heard they were thinking of using the leader on a future sequel...
KiKrusher99
06-30-2008, 09:47 PM
I really liked this, very nice surprise seeing as I had no expectations. I enjoyed it a lot more than Iron Man, probably because this one didn't feel like a "by the numbers" comic book movie. Roth was a great baddie as well, loved when he was infront of the mirror and he looked like a heroin addict. Unfortunitly I was taken out of the movie a little bit because these kids were running around. I was almost on the verge of giving them and their negligent parents a live version of the Hulk.
spacemonkey
07-01-2008, 09:22 AM
Did Mr. Blue start to turn into "The Leader" when that purple looking substance started to fall on his head???
fooknasty
07-01-2008, 10:45 AM
Did Mr. Blue start to turn into "The Leader" when that purple looking substance started to fall on his head???
Yes
spacemonkey
07-01-2008, 01:12 PM
Thanks Fooknasty, I just did a search on "The Leader" he was also bombarded with Gamma Radiation in the comics, which is what happens in the movie too. I cant believe I didnt make the connection the first time I saw the movie, his brain growing like that should have been enough, as it is, I just thought it was just some weird reaction to the liquid that falls on his head....but it was really Dr. Samuel Sterns (aka Mr. Blue) transforming into "The Leader" a dude who has extreme intelligence and telekenetic powers. Sounds like a worthy villain for the Hulk thats for sure.
"Dr. Samuel Sterns appears in the 2008 film, The Incredible Hulk, where he is portrayed by Tim Blake Nelson. Nelson is signed on to reprise the role in a future film, where he would become the Leader" - Wikipedia
Dr_Loomis
07-02-2008, 04:22 AM
Great movie love every second of it !! To be honest i thought Mr Blue was going to be steve rogers !! silly me :P
Looking forward to seing the avengers and also maybe a movie with just Hulk and Ironman ?
JoeChar4321
07-03-2008, 05:44 PM
Great movie love every second of it !! To be honest i thought Mr Blue was going to be steve rogers !! silly me :P
Looking forward to seing the avengers and also maybe a movie with just Hulk and Ironman ?
I loved every second of this movie as well.
At the least, I'd love to see Stark supply Hulkbuster armor to the army for any Hulk sequels.
If they follow some of the stuff they wrote for the Ultimate Avengers animated movie then Steve Rogers, Banner and the Super Soldier serum are going to be heavily featured in the Avengers live action movie. I can't wait to find out.
KiKrusher99
07-03-2008, 11:59 PM
So want to see this again. I loved the first transformation scene in the bottle factory, absolute genius move keeping the Hulk in shadows and smoke.
MarcoPolo
07-10-2008, 12:51 PM
I like this one too. Simple story line. Had that good old feel of Banner on the run. Good fight scenes. Great soundtrack too. I am not sure there were any boring parts to the movie I really wanted to get over with.
****spoiler*****
And wasn't it fitting, of all the people to end up with the bottle containing the drop of blood it would be Stan Lee? :D
KCJ506
07-10-2008, 01:11 PM
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a109020/incredible-hulk-unlikely-to-get-sequel.html
'Incredible Hulk' unlikely to get sequel
Wednesday, July 9 2008, 11:30 BST
By Simon Reynolds, Entertainment Reporter
Marvel's latest comic book film The Incredible Hulk is unlikely to get a sequel, says Reuters.
The Louis Leterrier-directed movie has so far grossed similar box office numbers to Ang Lee's Hulk, which was considered a commercial flop on its 2003 release.
Despite taking a more action-oriented approach to the character, The Incredible Hulk has accumulated $125 million at the US box office after a month on release. Its predecessor finished its theatre run with $132 million.
A Marvel insider said: "We're happy with the financial results, even if they [only] reach the first film's levels. Having a sequel is not the definition of success."
However, David Davis of entertainment analyst Arpeggio Partners claimed that the new film could be considered a success due to low expectations.
"Hollywood is always about perception," he noted. "The first Hulk had such high expectations after the NBC-Universal merger and was supposed to be critical-favourite Ang Lee's breakout commercial blockbuster.
"Then with the new Hulk film, Marvel was able to underplay the importance of the success after the great success of Iron Man this summer. So the new one overdelivered, relative to its underpromise."
Nazgul
07-10-2008, 01:27 PM
Just saw on Yahoo! that Marvel is unlikely to make a sequel. The Incredible Hulk only made 120 million so far...not good
Rapture27
07-10-2008, 01:35 PM
Decent movie. I haven't thought much about it since seeing it opening weekend. Might be a flick I will like more the 2nd time around. First time was kinda average, nothing too memorable. I love the Hulk character and feel they can do much better. Idk.....
axel2k8
07-10-2008, 08:55 PM
Just got back from seeing this. Felt very unremarkable. Not as good as Iron Man, and is less interesting than the first Hulk. The last 2 big action scenes were very good, but the rest of it was just kind of "meh." I was also wondering where some of the scenes from the trailers were (Banner talking to the shrink boyfriend, Blonsky being debriefed by the black guy from Tears of the Sun). Extended DVD perhaps?
There were plenty of bits I liked, such as Gen. Ross slamming shots of some sort of green liquor ("Incredible Hulk" probably) and Bruce saying in Portuguese not to make him "hungry." The Stark cameo was alright; half the scene appears in a TV spot already, and he pretty much reiterates was said after the end of his movie (this scene belonged after the credits too but is the final frame). I liked how S.H.I.E.L.D. was more involved in this latest Marvel entry and enjoyed the references to Stark Industries and Nick Fury in the opening credits. I also appreciated them leaving things open ended villain-wise unlike some comic-based films *cough-spiderman3-cough*.
It's a decent set-up for more movies, but I wish they would do something "different" with the next one should it get made. How many times do we need to see Thunderbolt Ross hunting down Banner, Betty soothing him, and Banner escaping to a foreign country?
PR0J3KT M
07-10-2008, 09:19 PM
I was also wondering where some of the scenes from the trailers were (Banner talking to the shrink boyfriend, Blonsky being debriefed by the black guy from Tears of the Sun). Extended DVD perhaps
im not entirely sure, but i believe that norton added the scene with the shrink but then the studio didnt like it, so they removed it..
JoeChar4321
07-15-2008, 02:55 PM
What's going on in Germany?
From Variety...
"Opening in third with $1.2 million, Concorde’s The Incredible Hulk ...
Although local exhibs weren’t expecting boffo returns from “The Incredible Hulk,” distrib Concorde may have upset a number of fans by rolling out an edited version of the pic in order to win an age-12 rating necessary to attract the tyke crowd, a strategy that may have backfired. With few cinemas across the country showing the original age-16 cut, which includes the Hulk’s final showdown with the film’s gargantuan villain in its entirety, many fans may have opted to wait for the DVD."
Nice move, numbnuts.
Grand_Marquis
07-15-2008, 03:08 PM
Nobody thinks in the longterm anymore. It's pathetic.
dellamorte dellamore
07-15-2008, 04:05 PM
That is pathetic , and it doesn't make any sense , it's clearly cartoon violence on display , kids see worse than that when they play videogames . Heck even Smash Bros melee could be considered more violent than that final showdown between Hulk and Abomination ;) .
spacemonkey
07-15-2008, 04:05 PM
So The Incredible Hulk is considered a bomb at the box office? I was under the impression this one would do good, its so entertaining!
Bourne101
07-15-2008, 04:12 PM
I wouldn't necessarily call it a bomb. It's going to finish with about $135 million domestically, and it is already at $226 million worldwide. Its budget is $150 million, so if it ends up making around $300 million worldwide, it will be alright. Not to mention that it should do quite well on DVD. Not really a success, but I don't think anyone was expecting much more than it made.
spacemonkey
07-15-2008, 04:52 PM
All this talk about no sequel has got to be bullshit, of course they have to make a sequel, this movie rocked the house! And if it ends up making 300 million, Im sure Marvel Studios will be more then willing to do another one, with The Leader!
fooknasty
07-15-2008, 05:02 PM
It would suck if we didn't get a sequel to this. But with the lack of major blockbuster money, and the tug of war with Norton, I wouldn't be surprised.
Shockwave
07-15-2008, 05:05 PM
All this talk about no sequel has got to be bullshit, of course they have to make a sequel, this movie rocked the house! And if it ends up making 300 million, Im sure Marvel Studios will be more then willing to do another one, with The Leader!
Damn well better!
They shouldnt be surprised as its total, given how close to the last one this was released, and how it left a really bad taste in many peoples mouths.
Really, im not sure what they were expecting.
LordSimen
07-15-2008, 05:34 PM
So The Incredible Hulk is considered a bomb at the box office? I was under the impression this one would do good, its so entertaining!
People said the same thing about the original Hulk's theatrical run, and both times the people were wrong. Neither movies bombed, they just underperformed expectations. Which isn't bad, they still made a profit and will continue to do so due to DVD sales.
spacemonkey
07-17-2008, 08:43 AM
I read up a bit more on it, it wasnt a bomb at all. It just didnt make as much as they expected. It didnt make Iron Man numbers, but it still made its money back, and will no doubt make a lot more on DVD.
dellamorte dellamore
07-17-2008, 10:28 AM
I read up a bit more on it, it wasnt a bomb at all. It just didnt make as much as they expected. It didnt make Iron Man numbers, but it still made its money back, and will no doubt make a lot more on DVD.
I seriously hope we get a sequel , because i enjoyed this re intro of the character . I liken it to what was done with BB , they effectively established the franchise properly , it is a shame it didn't make just a bit more , but hopefully it will make enough for them to greenlight a sequel , i'll be a very happy fanboy if they do .
luthorlex
07-28-2008, 08:57 AM
HULK SMASH!!!!
Best line ever.
Loved this movie more than Iron Man, i thought the sfx of Hulk really made you believe he was there. Stunning fight at the end to. As comic book movies go it was great!!
Lots of pluses, one minus......Ross running...dear god, of all the lame fx, hanging a man on a harness and running slightly above the ground!!! I think i last saw that in Superman 1978 when he ran next to the train ( youll believe a man can fly, but not run really really fast) lol
dellamorte dellamore
07-28-2008, 09:50 AM
I agree man , this is an awesome movie , and it moves at a brisk pace , i was never bored , and the visual fx are some of the best i have ever seen . I would say it's on a par with IM and maybe slightly below Tdk , but it's yet another terrific comic book based film to come out recently . We haven't seen this level of quality , probably ever . Im , Hulk , Hancock , Tdk , if they never make another comic book based film , i'll still be happy .
The sequence in the park is stunning , and i didn't have a problem with the running sequence , i'll be looping the attack in the park 100s of times when it hits dvd , it's " incredible " , the movie no doubt lives up to it's title :)
jacks_worm
07-28-2008, 10:25 PM
I agree man , this is an awesome movie , and it moves at a brisk pace , i was never bored , and the visual fx are some of the best i have ever seen . I would say it's on a par with IM and maybe slightly below Tdk , but it's yet another terrific comic book based film to come out recently . We haven't seen this level of quality , probably ever . Im , Hulk , Hancock , Tdk , if they never make another comic book based film , i'll still be happy .
The sequence in the park is stunning , and i didn't have a problem with the running sequence , i'll be looping the attack in the park 100s of times when it hits dvd , it's " incredible " , the movie no doubt lives up to it's title :)
I agree. Some of the greatest comic book stories were put out this year. This has been my biggest summer at the movie theater. I've enjoyed pretty much every movie I've seen.
With all this crap I'm hearing about Norton's arguments with Marvel, I'm really hoping for a Director's Cut or and Extended Cut or something. I really really loved this movie, but I wanted a bit more depth. Just a bit.
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